Quote Originally Posted by slipnipondarox:
Ok Wels, heres the deal. Your situation is very easy to fix. You may lose your friend for awhile, but the reality is, how good of a friend is he if he allowed you to place bets like that, knowing you had no money, no job and no way to pay back the bets that you were placing????? He must not be too smart of a guy, I apologize for the bluntness of that but its true.
You claim you placed bets through a friend on credit. You say you lost five stacks. Assuming all of that is true, ask your friend to see the bets on the website. If this bookie is worth his left nut, he has a website that the wagers are placed at and therefore should be viewable. Its important, because your friend may not have placed the bets at all, or placed them up to a point, and then started booking them himself. Technically you are still on the hook for them, but its better to owe a friend than a bookie. If he didn't book the bets with the bookie, I would tell him to go fu#k himself. Only because of the fact that he knew you had no cash and took your bets anyways, then allowed you to run up that kind of debt. In my opinion that is the lowest of the low. Anybody who would do that is not really a friend. Bankers destroyed the economy using that same type of lending.
If your bookie does not have a website, then hes small time and harmless. He is used to getting burned and will bug the shit out of your homie but wont do anything. The true reality is, bookies dont break legs anymore. Its too dangerous and too risky. They will want their money, but they also know that you cant squeeze a rock and get water. YOU should contact the bookie directly and explain to him the situation. Chances are he will work a deal with you and you can pay him over a long period of time. Bookies are businessmen, not muscle. They dont want any problems. Their reputations as guys that will damage you, is what makes people pay them, that and of course, wagering is an honorable mans game. You win, you get paid. You lose, you pay. But, that would allow your friend to be free and clear, and you in control of your money, what little of it you have. He cant do anything to you. Dont fear him. Under no circumstances am I advocating you stiffing the guy, but dont kill yourself to pay him. Do it under your terms, and when you can. I have an ex-friend who lost $275K, no lie, and told his bookie to go fuck himself. To this day, this guy lives in a very astute neighborhood making $350K annually, and is well and healthy. I hate him, because it was my bookie, and I set him up with the guy. My bookie tried to get me to pay for it, and I told him to suck my c%k, no lie. I told him if he ever called me again, I would call the police and turn over all his information to them. What was he gonna do? It totally sucked and I had no idea the guy was running up that kind of debt until I got the phone call. If only I would have known, I would have faded his ass into me being into a very large home.
Gambling is not an activity that is honorable at all. Even if you pay on time, get paid on time, always lose, or always win. Its pure slime. I dont care what anybody says, any type of wagering is a way to separate a man from his earnings through hope and manipulation. Bookies get stiffed, winners get stiffed, shit happens. Under no circumstances should you pay the guy until you have the cash, or a portion of it. If it takes a year, 2 years, 10 years, whatever. Dont hurt your future, also dont use my tax money to pay that piece of garbage.
his friend probably was holding most of his action.If you stiff my bookie he will break your fucking skull.no payment plan tuesday am he pays or collects.you are true about alot of bookies.My bookie has fucked up 2 of my friends pretty good.Over less than 5k.Wels you quitting is a good thing.I see so many gamblers betting 10-12 games recipe for disaster 4-5 games per week when you get on a good roll say you have a 3-0 night.Wait till payday and start fresh.Last summer i lost 45k by the end of basketball season i was up 8k.Your luck will turn around if you are smart about your wagers.Good Luck