You mean cops and criminals having guns right?
Just because you make it against the law to own a gun doesn't mean all the criminals suddenly hand them in.
You mean cops and criminals having guns right?
Just because you make it against the law to own a gun doesn't mean all the criminals suddenly hand them in.
Really, I am totally on Rodney Kings side and I was furious at the aquittal of the officers.
I think the facts of the Zimmerman case will show you to be completely ignorant when the dust settles.
We know now that Trayvon is no saint.
Zimmerman should not have had the gun on him, no doubt. But, if Zimmermans story is remotely true and T had broken his nose and repeatedly pounded his head into the pavement then he may well be justified in using deadly force.
People have died from that kind of head trauma before. But, that doesn't even matter. You can use deadly force even if you think the person may inflict "SERIOUS BODILY HARM"
In any respect, a case against Zimmerman will be very difficult to prove. And it will probably incite another large scale riot of the ignorant.
Really, I am totally on Rodney Kings side and I was furious at the aquittal of the officers.
I think the facts of the Zimmerman case will show you to be completely ignorant when the dust settles.
We know now that Trayvon is no saint.
Zimmerman should not have had the gun on him, no doubt. But, if Zimmermans story is remotely true and T had broken his nose and repeatedly pounded his head into the pavement then he may well be justified in using deadly force.
People have died from that kind of head trauma before. But, that doesn't even matter. You can use deadly force even if you think the person may inflict "SERIOUS BODILY HARM"
In any respect, a case against Zimmerman will be very difficult to prove. And it will probably incite another large scale riot of the ignorant.
Ah, but pumkin there were some who heard someone screaming for help.
You don't have to be able to see to be a witness grasshoppa.
Ah, but pumkin there were some who heard someone screaming for help.
You don't have to be able to see to be a witness grasshoppa.
Ah, but pumkin there were some who heard someone screaming for help.
You don't have to be able to see to be a witness grasshoppa.
Ah, but pumkin there were some who heard someone screaming for help.
You don't have to be able to see to be a witness grasshoppa.
Thats why I'm waiting to see if Z has/had a broken nose from the incident. I've seen more than one witness account that had Z on the ground whilst being straddled by T.
If thats true, why would Z need to scream for help if he's in the controlling position?
Thats why I'm waiting to see if Z has/had a broken nose from the incident. I've seen more than one witness account that had Z on the ground whilst being straddled by T.
If thats true, why would Z need to scream for help if he's in the controlling position?
Here you go, pumkin:
Who is the jury going to believe, the person who was there or someone who heard something but saw nothing.
Zimmerman said Martin pinned him to the ground and began slamming his head into the sidewalk. The police report described Zimmerman's back as wet and covered with grass, as though he had been lying on the ground.
Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and the back of his head, the police report said.
"I was yelling for someone to help me, but no one would help me," Zimmerman told police.
Here you go, pumkin:
Who is the jury going to believe, the person who was there or someone who heard something but saw nothing.
Zimmerman said Martin pinned him to the ground and began slamming his head into the sidewalk. The police report described Zimmerman's back as wet and covered with grass, as though he had been lying on the ground.
Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and the back of his head, the police report said.
"I was yelling for someone to help me, but no one would help me," Zimmerman told police.
Thats why I'm waiting to see if Z has/had a broken nose from the incident. I've seen more than one witness account that had Z on the ground whilst being straddled by T.
If thats true, why would Z need to scream for help if he's in the controlling position?
I meant to say why would T need to scream for help if hes in the controlling position.
Hutch, I think we agree that there is reasonable doubt.
Thats why I'm waiting to see if Z has/had a broken nose from the incident. I've seen more than one witness account that had Z on the ground whilst being straddled by T.
If thats true, why would Z need to scream for help if he's in the controlling position?
I meant to say why would T need to scream for help if hes in the controlling position.
Hutch, I think we agree that there is reasonable doubt.
You think "feel" is going to be strong enough testimony to overcome reasonable doubt?
"Zimmerman was standing over the body with -- basically straddling the body with his hands on Trayvon's back," Cutcher said. "And it didn't seem to me that he was trying to help him in any way. I didn't hear any struggle prior to the gunshot.
"And I feel like it was Trayvon Martin that was crying out, because the minute that the gunshot went off, the whining stopped."
You think "feel" is going to be strong enough testimony to overcome reasonable doubt?
"Zimmerman was standing over the body with -- basically straddling the body with his hands on Trayvon's back," Cutcher said. "And it didn't seem to me that he was trying to help him in any way. I didn't hear any struggle prior to the gunshot.
"And I feel like it was Trayvon Martin that was crying out, because the minute that the gunshot went off, the whining stopped."
hat had Z on the ground whilst being straddled by T.
If thats true, why would Z need to scream for help if he's in the controlling position?
Zimmerman was on the bottom (so he says).....T was on top. Zimmerman's back (jacket) was wet with grass
hat had Z on the ground whilst being straddled by T.
If thats true, why would Z need to scream for help if he's in the controlling position?
Zimmerman was on the bottom (so he says).....T was on top. Zimmerman's back (jacket) was wet with grass
I meant to say why would T need to scream for help if hes in the controlling position.
Hutch, I think we agree that there is reasonable doubt.
I meant to say why would T need to scream for help if hes in the controlling position.
Hutch, I think we agree that there is reasonable doubt.
Hutch...ya thats what I've been trying to say. I believe Z is the one who was crying out. because T would have no reason to do that if he was straddling Z whilst pounding his head in the ground and after he had bloodied Z's nose.
Hutch...ya thats what I've been trying to say. I believe Z is the one who was crying out. because T would have no reason to do that if he was straddling Z whilst pounding his head in the ground and after he had bloodied Z's nose.
hat had Z on the ground whilst being straddled by T.
If thats true, why would Z need to scream for help if he's in the controlling position?
Zimmerman was on the bottom (so he says).....T was on top. Zimmerman's back (jacket) was wet with grass
Slow down. You are going too fast. I already corrected this statement.
hat had Z on the ground whilst being straddled by T.
If thats true, why would Z need to scream for help if he's in the controlling position?
Zimmerman was on the bottom (so he says).....T was on top. Zimmerman's back (jacket) was wet with grass
Slow down. You are going too fast. I already corrected this statement.
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