Right now, 1% of the population controls 43% of the resources in the USA.....Instead of complaining about how 99% of us carve up the remaining 57%, we should focus on this huge disparity.
DiscoD69, if 1% of the USA population controls 47% of America's resources ..how does Canada get in on carving up any of the remaining 57% ?
Right now, 1% of the population controls 43% of the resources in the USA.....Instead of complaining about how 99% of us carve up the remaining 57%, we should focus on this huge disparity.
DiscoD69, if 1% of the USA population controls 47% of America's resources ..how does Canada get in on carving up any of the remaining 57% ?
disco, our arguments are not mutually exclusive. in fact, i think they are consistent. i'm not talking about the unions and government workers. i'm talking about the higher level politicians who are only out to help themselves and the 1% of the population you are talking about.
i'm more critical of the politicians because they are lying hypocrites and at least theoretically, they are supposed to be representing and hel;ping everyone, not just the richest. the richest 1%, on the other hand, never took an oath to help anyone else but themselves.
disco, our arguments are not mutually exclusive. in fact, i think they are consistent. i'm not talking about the unions and government workers. i'm talking about the higher level politicians who are only out to help themselves and the 1% of the population you are talking about.
i'm more critical of the politicians because they are lying hypocrites and at least theoretically, they are supposed to be representing and hel;ping everyone, not just the richest. the richest 1%, on the other hand, never took an oath to help anyone else but themselves.
In 1903, the GeorgistLizzie Magie applied for a patent on a game called The Landlord's Game with the object of showing that rents
enriched property owners and impoverished tenants. She knew that some
people would find it hard to understand the logic behind the idea, and
she thought that if the rent problem and the Georgist solution to it
were put into the concrete form of a game, it might be easier to
demonstrate. She was granted the patent for the game in January 1904. The Landlord's Game became one of the first board games to use a "continuous path," without clearly defined start and end spaces on its board.[5] A copy of Magie's game, dating from 1903–1904, was discovered for the PBS series History Detectives. This copy featured property groups, organized by letters, later a major feature of Monopoly as published by Parker Brothers.[6]
Is it any wonder that Monopoly is the most popular board game in the history of the WOrld?
In 1903, the GeorgistLizzie Magie applied for a patent on a game called The Landlord's Game with the object of showing that rents
enriched property owners and impoverished tenants. She knew that some
people would find it hard to understand the logic behind the idea, and
she thought that if the rent problem and the Georgist solution to it
were put into the concrete form of a game, it might be easier to
demonstrate. She was granted the patent for the game in January 1904. The Landlord's Game became one of the first board games to use a "continuous path," without clearly defined start and end spaces on its board.[5] A copy of Magie's game, dating from 1903–1904, was discovered for the PBS series History Detectives. This copy featured property groups, organized by letters, later a major feature of Monopoly as published by Parker Brothers.[6]
Is it any wonder that Monopoly is the most popular board game in the history of the WOrld?
disco, our arguments are not mutually exclusive. in fact, i think they are consistent. i'm not talking about the unions and government workers. i'm talking about the higher level politicians who are only out to help themselves and the 1% of the population you are talking about.
i'm more critical of the politicians because they are lying hypocrites and at least theoretically, they are supposed to be representing and hel;ping everyone, not just the richest. the richest 1%, on the other hand, never took an oath to help anyone else but themselves.
I can totally agree with that. Blaming politicians who promote policies that benefit the 1% are most definitely a huge part of the real problem. It's is an indisputable fact that 'free market' capitalism is benefiting the '1%.' Deregulation etc. are these type of policies enacted you refer too. Same deregulation mentality that led to the freedom among congressmen to be involved in legalized insider trading etc. It's a 'greed is best' mentality with no attention paid to the unintended consequences of widespread poverty, and a bottom to top vacuum of wealth and resources.
Which is why the 1% is more of a concept not a only figure of personal wealth. If you are a politician who acknowledges this and wants to attempt to address it, then you are not part of the problem. Equally if you are among the 'richest' 1% of people, but you also acknowledge the drastic systemic problems and want to promote reforms that lead to a more fair and equal society and political system, then you are also not part of the problem. In fact, you would be a huge asset.
Consequently, if you are not part of the 'richest' 1% but promote or support the falsehoods and policies that lead to this crisis (neoliberal economics/deregulation etc.) then you are a huge part of the problem, and are part of the '1%' in my opinion.
disco, our arguments are not mutually exclusive. in fact, i think they are consistent. i'm not talking about the unions and government workers. i'm talking about the higher level politicians who are only out to help themselves and the 1% of the population you are talking about.
i'm more critical of the politicians because they are lying hypocrites and at least theoretically, they are supposed to be representing and hel;ping everyone, not just the richest. the richest 1%, on the other hand, never took an oath to help anyone else but themselves.
I can totally agree with that. Blaming politicians who promote policies that benefit the 1% are most definitely a huge part of the real problem. It's is an indisputable fact that 'free market' capitalism is benefiting the '1%.' Deregulation etc. are these type of policies enacted you refer too. Same deregulation mentality that led to the freedom among congressmen to be involved in legalized insider trading etc. It's a 'greed is best' mentality with no attention paid to the unintended consequences of widespread poverty, and a bottom to top vacuum of wealth and resources.
Which is why the 1% is more of a concept not a only figure of personal wealth. If you are a politician who acknowledges this and wants to attempt to address it, then you are not part of the problem. Equally if you are among the 'richest' 1% of people, but you also acknowledge the drastic systemic problems and want to promote reforms that lead to a more fair and equal society and political system, then you are also not part of the problem. In fact, you would be a huge asset.
Consequently, if you are not part of the 'richest' 1% but promote or support the falsehoods and policies that lead to this crisis (neoliberal economics/deregulation etc.) then you are a huge part of the problem, and are part of the '1%' in my opinion.
Which is why the 1% is more of a concept not
a only figure of personal wealth. If you are a politician who
acknowledges this and wants to attempt to address it, then you are not
part of the problem.
Why does this mentality only exist on the left?
Cannot tell you how many landlords claim to promote fairnaess in gov, yet they sure as hell cry foul if they don't get their Section 8/ housing subsidy graft
And what about lawyers? The one's that claim to desire a more equitable system, yet do you think any of them pass on the benefits that come their way as being the technocratic underclass that thrives off of and enables the current top heavy system?
There is ZERO value in what people say, their actions are the only thing that matter
Which is why the 1% is more of a concept not
a only figure of personal wealth. If you are a politician who
acknowledges this and wants to attempt to address it, then you are not
part of the problem.
Why does this mentality only exist on the left?
Cannot tell you how many landlords claim to promote fairnaess in gov, yet they sure as hell cry foul if they don't get their Section 8/ housing subsidy graft
And what about lawyers? The one's that claim to desire a more equitable system, yet do you think any of them pass on the benefits that come their way as being the technocratic underclass that thrives off of and enables the current top heavy system?
There is ZERO value in what people say, their actions are the only thing that matter
The huge part of the problem is neoclassical economics
Which is what every single Disco-like-minded folk worship like a religion. It was also born of the early 20th century universities, the sam universities that leftist hold so much faith in as being the basis of all progress and education. I guess these people never bothered to question where the universities came from in the first place, because if they made the connection to the early 20th century 1% and the universities, maybe they'd question why the aristocracy would create/fund these universities in the first place,,,,,as a means to educate the masses, OR as a modem of control for the masses
Your thoughts and ideas are not organic, rather they were hatched in your minds petri-dish, fed and nourished by the same aristocracy you claim to loathe. And you wonder why you are so confused
The huge part of the problem is neoclassical economics
Which is what every single Disco-like-minded folk worship like a religion. It was also born of the early 20th century universities, the sam universities that leftist hold so much faith in as being the basis of all progress and education. I guess these people never bothered to question where the universities came from in the first place, because if they made the connection to the early 20th century 1% and the universities, maybe they'd question why the aristocracy would create/fund these universities in the first place,,,,,as a means to educate the masses, OR as a modem of control for the masses
Your thoughts and ideas are not organic, rather they were hatched in your minds petri-dish, fed and nourished by the same aristocracy you claim to loathe. And you wonder why you are so confused
Lots of great input on this topic there are a lot of bright people on this form,Now the real question how to we fix the problem,That is the 1 million question.Rome is still burning and as Americans we have to put out the fire,
Lots of great input on this topic there are a lot of bright people on this form,Now the real question how to we fix the problem,That is the 1 million question.Rome is still burning and as Americans we have to put out the fire,
Lots of great input on this topic there are a lot of bright people on this form,Now the real question how to we fix the problem,That is the 1 million question.Rome is still burning and as Americans we have to put out the fire,
You are right sir. Serious reforms are needed and a dialogue needs to take place to establish what those reforms should look like. Partisan bickering literally accomplishes nothing, all the while there are a huge number of IDENTIFIED problems that BOTH the left and right already agree on. We (as a society, not a forum) need to get serious about this. It is the time for construction, not destruction.
Lots of great input on this topic there are a lot of bright people on this form,Now the real question how to we fix the problem,That is the 1 million question.Rome is still burning and as Americans we have to put out the fire,
You are right sir. Serious reforms are needed and a dialogue needs to take place to establish what those reforms should look like. Partisan bickering literally accomplishes nothing, all the while there are a huge number of IDENTIFIED problems that BOTH the left and right already agree on. We (as a society, not a forum) need to get serious about this. It is the time for construction, not destruction.
You are right sir. Serious reforms are needed and a dialogue needs to take place to establish what those reforms should look like. Partisan bickering literally accomplishes nothing, all the while there are a huge number of IDENTIFIED problems that BOTH the left and right already agree on. We (as a society, not a forum) need to get serious about this. It is the time for construction, not destruction.
Have to deconstruct the machine while new construction takes place
You are right sir. Serious reforms are needed and a dialogue needs to take place to establish what those reforms should look like. Partisan bickering literally accomplishes nothing, all the while there are a huge number of IDENTIFIED problems that BOTH the left and right already agree on. We (as a society, not a forum) need to get serious about this. It is the time for construction, not destruction.
Have to deconstruct the machine while new construction takes place
Have to deconstruct the machine while new construction takes place
Same thing I'm saying.
We just need to use a chisel not a mallet. One method, we can make a beautiful sculpture to look precisely as to what we want, the other, everything crumbles to pieces.
Have to deconstruct the machine while new construction takes place
Same thing I'm saying.
We just need to use a chisel not a mallet. One method, we can make a beautiful sculpture to look precisely as to what we want, the other, everything crumbles to pieces.
We just need to use a chisel not a mallet. One method, we can make a beautiful sculpture to look precisely as to what we want, the other, everything crumbles to pieces.
who is this "we" you speak of ?? there is no "we" unless there is a mallet imo
We just need to use a chisel not a mallet. One method, we can make a beautiful sculpture to look precisely as to what we want, the other, everything crumbles to pieces.
who is this "we" you speak of ?? there is no "we" unless there is a mallet imo
Think about this...You can't make targeted reforms, and to what would we be electing politicians to (post reform), if we used a mallet instead of a chisel?
Think about this...You can't make targeted reforms, and to what would we be electing politicians to (post reform), if we used a mallet instead of a chisel?
I apologize for this mallet/chisel metaphor. What we 'would be reforming' is an abstract concept and I'm afraid this is confusing the issue and directing the conversation astray....
Point is we need to make serious common sense reforms. Starting with the ones we all agree on.
I apologize for this mallet/chisel metaphor. What we 'would be reforming' is an abstract concept and I'm afraid this is confusing the issue and directing the conversation astray....
Point is we need to make serious common sense reforms. Starting with the ones we all agree on.
Think about this...You can't make targeted reforms, and to what would we be electing politicians to (post reform), if we used a mallet instead of a chisel?
Targeted reforms that must be voted on by the Goldman Politicians.
Think about this...You can't make targeted reforms, and to what would we be electing politicians to (post reform), if we used a mallet instead of a chisel?
Targeted reforms that must be voted on by the Goldman Politicians.
In 1903, the GeorgistLizzie Magie applied for a patent on a game called The Landlord's Game with the object of showing that rents enriched property owners and impoverished tenants. She knew that some people would find it hard to understand the logic behind the idea, and she thought that if the rent problem and the Georgist solution to it were put into the concrete form of a game, it might be easier to demonstrate. She was granted the patent for the game in January 1904. The Landlord's Game became one of the first board games to use a "continuous path," without clearly defined start and end spaces on its board.[5] A copy of Magie's game, dating from 1903–1904, was discovered for the PBS series History Detectives. This copy featured property groups, organized by letters, later a major feature of Monopoly as published by Parker Brothers.[6]
Is it any wonder that Monopoly is the most popular board game in the history of the WOrld?
In 1903, the GeorgistLizzie Magie applied for a patent on a game called The Landlord's Game with the object of showing that rents enriched property owners and impoverished tenants. She knew that some people would find it hard to understand the logic behind the idea, and she thought that if the rent problem and the Georgist solution to it were put into the concrete form of a game, it might be easier to demonstrate. She was granted the patent for the game in January 1904. The Landlord's Game became one of the first board games to use a "continuous path," without clearly defined start and end spaces on its board.[5] A copy of Magie's game, dating from 1903–1904, was discovered for the PBS series History Detectives. This copy featured property groups, organized by letters, later a major feature of Monopoly as published by Parker Brothers.[6]
Is it any wonder that Monopoly is the most popular board game in the history of the WOrld?
Bravo! great comments, where i see the problems a lot of americans are loyal to there wallet, and the hell with everybody else.The problem with that theory is take govt workers if the private sector keeps getting pounded with taxes and regulations, sooner or later it will take its toll on the revenue coming to the states,feds, etc. There will be no retirement checks for the workers.SS is going in that direction right now.The democrats always control the unions and the entitlement voters.The right controls most of the big corporations vote not all but a big majority.Special interest groups are a big problem, we could go on for hours and at this time, I think its is to late unless the American people go to the streets and take are country back. I do not think that will happen until everybody is hungry. I hope that I am wrong
Bravo! great comments, where i see the problems a lot of americans are loyal to there wallet, and the hell with everybody else.The problem with that theory is take govt workers if the private sector keeps getting pounded with taxes and regulations, sooner or later it will take its toll on the revenue coming to the states,feds, etc. There will be no retirement checks for the workers.SS is going in that direction right now.The democrats always control the unions and the entitlement voters.The right controls most of the big corporations vote not all but a big majority.Special interest groups are a big problem, we could go on for hours and at this time, I think its is to late unless the American people go to the streets and take are country back. I do not think that will happen until everybody is hungry. I hope that I am wrong
Targeted reforms that must be voted on by the Goldman Politicians.
Brilliant.
No.
Targeted reforms from representatives of the people after we all kick out the Goldman politicians.
Do you remember what I said numerous times should be "step #1?"
...
Kick out the all the corrupt goons. Occupy Congress. Then turn DC into Reform City. Something that should have been done a long time ago. The corruption is rampant and largely legalized.
Targeted reforms that must be voted on by the Goldman Politicians.
Brilliant.
No.
Targeted reforms from representatives of the people after we all kick out the Goldman politicians.
Do you remember what I said numerous times should be "step #1?"
...
Kick out the all the corrupt goons. Occupy Congress. Then turn DC into Reform City. Something that should have been done a long time ago. The corruption is rampant and largely legalized.
I took my grand kids to chuck e cheese monday and the place was filled with a ton of young couples with there kids.It cost me 15 dollars in tokens for the games and for medium pizza three drinks and a salad about 30 dollars with a tip.45 dollars total for a 90 minutes with the kids. If you think about it that is insane.This seem like a small thing in the scope of the forum, but my point when does it end.In 20 years if we make that long. my grand-kids unless there are really lucky will be slaves to the rich.
I took my grand kids to chuck e cheese monday and the place was filled with a ton of young couples with there kids.It cost me 15 dollars in tokens for the games and for medium pizza three drinks and a salad about 30 dollars with a tip.45 dollars total for a 90 minutes with the kids. If you think about it that is insane.This seem like a small thing in the scope of the forum, but my point when does it end.In 20 years if we make that long. my grand-kids unless there are really lucky will be slaves to the rich.
Disco, where will we find these unicorn-like utopian folk to put in government that will put my interests before their own?
should we just be sure to look for folk with D aside their name when we go to vote in November? I mean, like you are always saying, the prob;em is Republicans and the Solution is Democrats
people that are out thunk by pre teens at beauty pageants that long for world peace
Disco, where will we find these unicorn-like utopian folk to put in government that will put my interests before their own?
should we just be sure to look for folk with D aside their name when we go to vote in November? I mean, like you are always saying, the prob;em is Republicans and the Solution is Democrats
people that are out thunk by pre teens at beauty pageants that long for world peace
disc - i dont promote workers as the 1%. in fact the "rent seekers" are a much larger population than 1%
the article i linked to above is an interesting piece because it lays the blame on the State (who is 1% of the population) who has created all of the issues we have today in one form or another...through lobbying, playing santa claus, abdicating their duties etc
disc - i dont promote workers as the 1%. in fact the "rent seekers" are a much larger population than 1%
the article i linked to above is an interesting piece because it lays the blame on the State (who is 1% of the population) who has created all of the issues we have today in one form or another...through lobbying, playing santa claus, abdicating their duties etc
'We' need to reform the system so there are NO Goldman politicians.
An example of a targeted reform (campaign finance) we all mutually agree on.
PACs and SuperPacs are transparent as they all have to file with the FEC as do candidates
i think those campaign finance laws should be abolished as should most other laws. Laws were written only because someone paid for them to be written.
Look at every law passed by the US federal government...someone's bitch wrote the law in exchange for campaign contributions or promise of future employment
Sen Chris Dodd (retired) was the main force behind SOPA. He is the chair of the MPAA and was hired because of his influence in DC. If Congress didnt have the authority to pass such laws, then Chris Dodd would be in jail where he should be.
There are hundreds like him...Newt Gingrich is a great example as well
'We' need to reform the system so there are NO Goldman politicians.
An example of a targeted reform (campaign finance) we all mutually agree on.
PACs and SuperPacs are transparent as they all have to file with the FEC as do candidates
i think those campaign finance laws should be abolished as should most other laws. Laws were written only because someone paid for them to be written.
Look at every law passed by the US federal government...someone's bitch wrote the law in exchange for campaign contributions or promise of future employment
Sen Chris Dodd (retired) was the main force behind SOPA. He is the chair of the MPAA and was hired because of his influence in DC. If Congress didnt have the authority to pass such laws, then Chris Dodd would be in jail where he should be.
There are hundreds like him...Newt Gingrich is a great example as well
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