you should definitely get that checked out. If one piece got in there then you may have more. Hate to see those other ones migrate into your sinuses or worse.
Simple image should be able to detect anything else....or else just head to your local high school and have them use the metal detector on your face. :P
Thanks for your servicve man!!!
A fire cracker went off about 10 feet from me the other night....didn't see the kids in the dark and I was startled. Can't imagine what an IED would be like.
that's a good point to get check for other fragments
you should definitely get that checked out. If one piece got in there then you may have more. Hate to see those other ones migrate into your sinuses or worse.
Simple image should be able to detect anything else....or else just head to your local high school and have them use the metal detector on your face. :P
Thanks for your servicve man!!!
A fire cracker went off about 10 feet from me the other night....didn't see the kids in the dark and I was startled. Can't imagine what an IED would be like.
that's a good point to get check for other fragments
It was like driving into a hail storm. I was my face out of the turret scanning the area. At the exact time, I was pointing off to the distance to tell the gunner in the vehicle behind to keep his eye open for this spot and then boom. The sound was loud, i turned my head and we drove directly into shrapnel flying in the air. The sound of pellet guns going off into my protective eyewear. The pain in my neck was actually minimial. Not real pain, just felt like a bunch of shots I was getting at the same time, followed by a burn. We stopped the vehicle and I realized I was fucked. Knew it for sure when i glanced down and saw smoke coming my shoulder-blade area.
It was like driving into a hail storm. I was my face out of the turret scanning the area. At the exact time, I was pointing off to the distance to tell the gunner in the vehicle behind to keep his eye open for this spot and then boom. The sound was loud, i turned my head and we drove directly into shrapnel flying in the air. The sound of pellet guns going off into my protective eyewear. The pain in my neck was actually minimial. Not real pain, just felt like a bunch of shots I was getting at the same time, followed by a burn. We stopped the vehicle and I realized I was fucked. Knew it for sure when i glanced down and saw smoke coming my shoulder-blade area.
I am really wondering how much more of these pieces of metal are in your body?
Also, like someone above mentioned, have you had an MRI since the IED? I'm sure you know this already, metal and mri's do not go well together. Make sure you get a full body X-ray to rule out any pieces that still may be remaining. an MRI checklist will request knowledge of any incidents involving metal. I have had 6 MRI s myself due to herniated disc and sciatic nerve damage.
I am really wondering how much more of these pieces of metal are in your body?
Also, like someone above mentioned, have you had an MRI since the IED? I'm sure you know this already, metal and mri's do not go well together. Make sure you get a full body X-ray to rule out any pieces that still may be remaining. an MRI checklist will request knowledge of any incidents involving metal. I have had 6 MRI s myself due to herniated disc and sciatic nerve damage.
Easy for me to say, but I wouldnt worry about it. I take x rays for a living and see shrapnel, bb's, bullets and shotgun pellets all the time. Some times they are right below the surface, but the docs wont remove them because the chance for infection is worse than anything that inert fragment will do. As far as travelling to your sinus its unlikely (if there are more fragments) as things in the nose tend to come out, not up (gravity). Shows like CSI and House make it see like its common for fragments to travel throughout the body, but its not (definately possible in the right location however).
If I were you, to put your mind at ease, go get a skull and chest xray. Absolutely dont keep this from your doc if you ever need an MRI. Yu could possibly have tiny shards in you eye and/or orbit that can become dislodged when near the magnet. Not good news.
Go get an xray. Cant put a price on peace of mind.
Easy for me to say, but I wouldnt worry about it. I take x rays for a living and see shrapnel, bb's, bullets and shotgun pellets all the time. Some times they are right below the surface, but the docs wont remove them because the chance for infection is worse than anything that inert fragment will do. As far as travelling to your sinus its unlikely (if there are more fragments) as things in the nose tend to come out, not up (gravity). Shows like CSI and House make it see like its common for fragments to travel throughout the body, but its not (definately possible in the right location however).
If I were you, to put your mind at ease, go get a skull and chest xray. Absolutely dont keep this from your doc if you ever need an MRI. Yu could possibly have tiny shards in you eye and/or orbit that can become dislodged when near the magnet. Not good news.
Go get an xray. Cant put a price on peace of mind.
My grandfather had shrapnel from WW2 that would work its way out of his skin even in his 70's, 50+ years after the war. Maybe a piece made it into your neck/throat, worked its way slowly into your esophagus, and eventually up to your nose? Seems pretty unlikely, I would think it would go down into your stomach before breathing carried it all the way up to your nose, but that's all I got!
Thanks again for your service Irish No thanks for making me feel like a big box though
My grandfather had shrapnel from WW2 that would work its way out of his skin even in his 70's, 50+ years after the war. Maybe a piece made it into your neck/throat, worked its way slowly into your esophagus, and eventually up to your nose? Seems pretty unlikely, I would think it would go down into your stomach before breathing carried it all the way up to your nose, but that's all I got!
Thanks again for your service Irish No thanks for making me feel like a big box though
and the case could really be wrote up in a medical journal, it is so unusual, it should be documented
What a poser! As it's been shown this is not that unusual and is common knowledge among medical people.And yhe word you are looking for is written. Busted again...
and the case could really be wrote up in a medical journal, it is so unusual, it should be documented
What a poser! As it's been shown this is not that unusual and is common knowledge among medical people.And yhe word you are looking for is written. Busted again...
Irish, I work for the VA. If you haven't went to hospital yet, do so immediately. Make sure to show them the object obviously. If at all possible, I would save a piece.
After being examined, wait about two weeks (or after your MRI they will most likely order) and go to ROI and request a copy of your medical records. Specifically review the progress notes of that particular visit and make sure its an accurate reflection of how you described the incident and how you was treated for this problem.
The subtle nuances in the dictation of this visit could ultimately be the difference between being 20% SC or 50% in the future. Are you still active duty? If not, have you had your complete C&P exam yet? I'm assuming you haven't simply because they almost always order an MRI of the orbits for all OEF/OIF veterans.
Unfortunately, you have to protect yourself from the same people you defended. It's probably beating a dead horse, but assume nothing and always document everything. It's painful to see so many malignancies and other ailments that are most likely service related that simply can't be linked due to lack of documentation.
Best of luck.
P.S. You've been suffering from dull headaches and a stuffed up nose for a long time but have simply used nasal spray for these symptoms.
Irish, I work for the VA. If you haven't went to hospital yet, do so immediately. Make sure to show them the object obviously. If at all possible, I would save a piece.
After being examined, wait about two weeks (or after your MRI they will most likely order) and go to ROI and request a copy of your medical records. Specifically review the progress notes of that particular visit and make sure its an accurate reflection of how you described the incident and how you was treated for this problem.
The subtle nuances in the dictation of this visit could ultimately be the difference between being 20% SC or 50% in the future. Are you still active duty? If not, have you had your complete C&P exam yet? I'm assuming you haven't simply because they almost always order an MRI of the orbits for all OEF/OIF veterans.
Unfortunately, you have to protect yourself from the same people you defended. It's probably beating a dead horse, but assume nothing and always document everything. It's painful to see so many malignancies and other ailments that are most likely service related that simply can't be linked due to lack of documentation.
Best of luck.
P.S. You've been suffering from dull headaches and a stuffed up nose for a long time but have simply used nasal spray for these symptoms.
Irish, I work for the VA. If you haven't went to hospital yet, do so immediately. Make sure to show them the object obviously. If at all possible, I would save a piece.
After being examined, wait about two weeks (or after your MRI they will most likely order) and go to ROI and request a copy of your medical records. Specifically review the progress notes of that particular visit and make sure its an accurate reflection of how you described the incident and how you was treated for this problem.
The subtle nuances in the dictation of this visit could ultimately be the difference between being 20% SC or 50% in the future. Are you still active duty? If not, have you had your complete C&P exam yet? I'm assuming you haven't simply because they almost always order an MRI of the orbits for all OEF/OIF veterans.
Unfortunately, you have to protect yourself from the same people you defended. It's probably beating a dead horse, but assume nothing and always document everything. It's painful to see so many malignancies and other ailments that are most likely service related that simply can't be linked due to lack of documentation.
Best of luck.
P.S. You've been suffering from dull headaches and a stuffed up nose for a long time but have simply used nasal spray for these symptoms.
Irish, I work for the VA. If you haven't went to hospital yet, do so immediately. Make sure to show them the object obviously. If at all possible, I would save a piece.
After being examined, wait about two weeks (or after your MRI they will most likely order) and go to ROI and request a copy of your medical records. Specifically review the progress notes of that particular visit and make sure its an accurate reflection of how you described the incident and how you was treated for this problem.
The subtle nuances in the dictation of this visit could ultimately be the difference between being 20% SC or 50% in the future. Are you still active duty? If not, have you had your complete C&P exam yet? I'm assuming you haven't simply because they almost always order an MRI of the orbits for all OEF/OIF veterans.
Unfortunately, you have to protect yourself from the same people you defended. It's probably beating a dead horse, but assume nothing and always document everything. It's painful to see so many malignancies and other ailments that are most likely service related that simply can't be linked due to lack of documentation.
Best of luck.
P.S. You've been suffering from dull headaches and a stuffed up nose for a long time but have simply used nasal spray for these symptoms.
Irish, I work for the VA. If you haven't went to hospital yet, do so immediately. Make sure to show them the object obviously. If at all possible, I would save a piece.
After being examined, wait about two weeks (or after your MRI they will most likely order) and go to ROI and request a copy of your medical records. Specifically review the progress notes of that particular visit and make sure its an accurate reflection of how you described the incident and how you was treated for this problem.
The subtle nuances in the dictation of this visit could ultimately be the difference between being 20% SC or 50% in the future. Are you still active duty? If not, have you had your complete C&P exam yet? I'm assuming you haven't simply because they almost always order an MRI of the orbits for all OEF/OIF veterans.
Unfortunately, you have to protect yourself from the same people you defended. It's probably beating a dead horse, but assume nothing and always document everything. It's painful to see so many malignancies and other ailments that are most likely service related that simply can't be linked due to lack of documentation.
Best of luck.
P.S. You've been suffering from dull headaches and a stuffed up nose for a long time but have simply used nasal spray for these symptoms.
Why would they order an MRI (or why will they most likely order one)?
Irish, I work for the VA. If you haven't went to hospital yet, do so immediately. Make sure to show them the object obviously. If at all possible, I would save a piece.
After being examined, wait about two weeks (or after your MRI they will most likely order) and go to ROI and request a copy of your medical records. Specifically review the progress notes of that particular visit and make sure its an accurate reflection of how you described the incident and how you was treated for this problem.
The subtle nuances in the dictation of this visit could ultimately be the difference between being 20% SC or 50% in the future. Are you still active duty? If not, have you had your complete C&P exam yet? I'm assuming you haven't simply because they almost always order an MRI of the orbits for all OEF/OIF veterans.
Unfortunately, you have to protect yourself from the same people you defended. It's probably beating a dead horse, but assume nothing and always document everything. It's painful to see so many malignancies and other ailments that are most likely service related that simply can't be linked due to lack of documentation.
Best of luck.
P.S. You've been suffering from dull headaches and a stuffed up nose for a long time but have simply used nasal spray for these symptoms.
Why would they order an MRI (or why will they most likely order one)?
Thanks for serving Wouldn't hurt to get it checked out. You had a piece of metal in your head for years. Could have caused an infection... better to be safe than sorry.
My dad, a vet himself, got an infection in his toe. The doctors believe it may have had something to do with the accident he had some 30 years ago when he lost a fight with a lawn mower and nearly lost his toe. Anyways, the infection spread up into his leg and now he has 1-1/2 legs instead of two.
Thanks for serving Wouldn't hurt to get it checked out. You had a piece of metal in your head for years. Could have caused an infection... better to be safe than sorry.
My dad, a vet himself, got an infection in his toe. The doctors believe it may have had something to do with the accident he had some 30 years ago when he lost a fight with a lawn mower and nearly lost his toe. Anyways, the infection spread up into his leg and now he has 1-1/2 legs instead of two.
Postgrad Med J 2000;76:484-487 doi:10.1136/pmj.76.898.484
Review
Foreign bodies in the nasal cavities: a comprehensive review of the aetiology, diagnostic pointers, and therapeutic measures
Foreign bodies are either animate or inanimate. Inanimate foreign bodies—The list of objects that have been reportedly removed from the nose is endless.
The most commonly identified inanimate foreign bodies include rubber erasers, paper wads, pebbles, beads, marbles, beans, safety pins, washers, nuts, sponges, and chalk.2 5 Other authors have reported plasticine, pieces of wood, a door handle, 6 metal hooks and eyes, pieces of cloth, bullets, thimbles, 7shrapnel, umbrella springs, iron bolts, corks, and coins.8
Endogenous materials like bone and pieces of cartilage have been left behind in the nasal cavity after surgical intranasal manipulations. Trauma to structures adjacent to the nose such as orbits, paranasal sinuses, and palate can force bone spicules and cartilage fragments into the nose. Supernumerary teeth have erupted in the floor of the nose, presented like osteoma, and caused nasal obstruction.9 10
Animate foreign bodies—Myiasis of the nose is common in warm tropical climates of South Western United States and the Far East including India, the frequency of infestation being primarily related to the poor hygiene of the inhabitants. The most common of all infestations is the fly maggot. Screw worms, also known as “Texas” screw worms (which is the larval state ofCochliomya macellaria and theCochliomyia homnivorax, “the blow fly”) are serious pests to humans and cattle. A high incidence of human infestation would therefore be expected in cattle raising areas but this does not appear to be the case.11 This indicates that the principal factor in infestation is not the livestock but rather the constitution and habitat of the host. The ordinary maggot represents the larval stage of this blow fly. It thrives in dead tissue only and does not destroy living material. The mature larva measures two thirds of an inch long and one eighth of an inch in diameter and has the characteristic appearance of a screw because of approximately l2 rings of spines that encircle the body. The larva burrows into the living tissue and it is at this stage of larval development that it damages nasal mucosal lining. Larvae of other flies like those of aestrous, hypoderma, and dermatobia also invade the nasal cavities.Wohlfahrtia magnifica may also infest the nose. These infestations occur more commonly in patients suffering from ozaena and nasal syphilis.1
Postgrad Med J 2000;76:484-487 doi:10.1136/pmj.76.898.484
Review
Foreign bodies in the nasal cavities: a comprehensive review of the aetiology, diagnostic pointers, and therapeutic measures
Foreign bodies are either animate or inanimate. Inanimate foreign bodies—The list of objects that have been reportedly removed from the nose is endless.
The most commonly identified inanimate foreign bodies include rubber erasers, paper wads, pebbles, beads, marbles, beans, safety pins, washers, nuts, sponges, and chalk.2 5 Other authors have reported plasticine, pieces of wood, a door handle, 6 metal hooks and eyes, pieces of cloth, bullets, thimbles, 7shrapnel, umbrella springs, iron bolts, corks, and coins.8
Endogenous materials like bone and pieces of cartilage have been left behind in the nasal cavity after surgical intranasal manipulations. Trauma to structures adjacent to the nose such as orbits, paranasal sinuses, and palate can force bone spicules and cartilage fragments into the nose. Supernumerary teeth have erupted in the floor of the nose, presented like osteoma, and caused nasal obstruction.9 10
Animate foreign bodies—Myiasis of the nose is common in warm tropical climates of South Western United States and the Far East including India, the frequency of infestation being primarily related to the poor hygiene of the inhabitants. The most common of all infestations is the fly maggot. Screw worms, also known as “Texas” screw worms (which is the larval state ofCochliomya macellaria and theCochliomyia homnivorax, “the blow fly”) are serious pests to humans and cattle. A high incidence of human infestation would therefore be expected in cattle raising areas but this does not appear to be the case.11 This indicates that the principal factor in infestation is not the livestock but rather the constitution and habitat of the host. The ordinary maggot represents the larval stage of this blow fly. It thrives in dead tissue only and does not destroy living material. The mature larva measures two thirds of an inch long and one eighth of an inch in diameter and has the characteristic appearance of a screw because of approximately l2 rings of spines that encircle the body. The larva burrows into the living tissue and it is at this stage of larval development that it damages nasal mucosal lining. Larvae of other flies like those of aestrous, hypoderma, and dermatobia also invade the nasal cavities.Wohlfahrtia magnifica may also infest the nose. These infestations occur more commonly in patients suffering from ozaena and nasal syphilis.1
go to the doctor and check it out, mate. have them run an mri so they can look at your nasal sinus. if you had blown out a piece of metal and bled, that must have meant the piece of metal must have scratched inner surface of the septum.
go to the doctor and check it out, mate. have them run an mri so they can look at your nasal sinus. if you had blown out a piece of metal and bled, that must have meant the piece of metal must have scratched inner surface of the septum.
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