Indianapolis at Washington (08/03/2008)

Cols haven't won a preseason game in a few seasons. 

The Colts beat Detroit last year 37-10 in the 3rd game of preseason. In 2006, they beat NO 27-14, also the third preseason game.

I posted this elsewhere on Friday.  But would still take it at +4.5

5* INDIANAPOLIS +6, +100 over Washington

This line is pretty bad. The oddsmakers are accounting for the fact that new coaches "want to win" and the fact that Dungy has been terrible the last 3 years in the pre-season with no Peyton Manning.

First off, the Colts have no Manning but have a wide open race for the 2nd and 3rd QB spots with Jim Sorgi, Quinn Gray and Jared Lorenzen, all who have significant NFL pre-season experience. The Washington QB rotation consists of Jason Campbell, Todd Collins and Colt Brennan. Colt Brennan will be getting his first does ever of NFL Pre-season speed here. The new coaches want to win theory is semi-true, HOWEVER, it is more true for new coaches taking over moribound teams who have missed the playoffs the last few years. They have to work on winning a fan base back in the pre-season. The Redskins were a veteran playoff team last year and now you have a new coach coming in and installing a brand new system with veteran players who have already won with the old system. Will they be picking up this new system for the first game in just 8 days of training camp. I doubt it. Reports out of Washington camp was that Todd Collins is having trouble picking up the system early on because he played in the same exact system under Al Saunders the past 8 years. The dog in any game involving a VIRGIN NFL head coach is 27-13-1 ATS in the last 41 tries simply because of this reason. Virgin head coaches that are dogs are usually taking over bad teams and do their best to instill customer confidence from the get go. Virgin head coaches that are favs are usually taking over better veteran teams and have trouble installing a new system for the team right away. Colts have the better QB rotation, the same system and a little history on the side. I am jumping out with a top rated play on this one.

I was thinking about the same thing.  all those skins fans, and no other game on tv.  should make a great atmosphere

6 hours left until game time. i'm getting very horny!!!!

WELCOME BACK PEOPLE, FOOTBALL IS BACK AND AROUND THE CORNER, GREAT TO SEE EVERYONE BACK, LETS GET WARMED UP FOR THE SEASON WITH TONIGHTS GAME, I LIKE THE UNDER IN THIS ONE. BEST OF LUCK SPARTANS!!!

skins appear to e 4-0 in HOF Games...Colts 2-1

Skins are -4.5

Why is that?

go gamecocks

skins

I like under in this game. Both teams missing alot of big guns in this game with Colts sitting Manning and Harrison and the bread and butter of the Redskins their running game resting Portis and Betts. Redskins should be pressing hard for competive game under new coach, Colts they don't put alot in these games, and with the new roster limit rules, teams will be trying to get out with their health. I'm going to play the under 32 in this game. I have a 4 TD and 1 FG cushion with alot of firepower on the bench.
Under 32 Good Luck to all and welcome back football!

Man its great to see a Football thread even if it is pre season NFL.  We made it through the NBA MLB lull and its time to cash in again!

Colonel 

Scorpio 

Hunted 

Coverditty 

Fish Naked 

great to see you all back!!!  This will be a hugely profitable year for sure!

Hard to make a pick on the first pre season game but give me the points and Indy

Colts + the pts

The play tonight looks to be OVER for me.
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I think the defenses are going to be on the short side tonight. Both defenses will have trouble keeping points off the board with major players sitting on both sides.  Not to mention the Skins who will be operating with new schemes etc in lieu of the changes in coaching staff.

Colts players recovering from injuries who won't play Sunday, DE Dwight Freeney, safety Bob Sanders and linebackers Gary Brackett and Tyjuan Hagler. Colts Defensive line thin with the retirement of Quinn Pitcock. Raheem Brock, a 27-game starter at tackle the past two seasons, has been moved to left end in the base defense and apparently will remain there even with Pitcock's decision.

For the Skins Pro Bowl left tackle Chris Samuels, starting middle linebacker London Fletcher and newly acquired Pro Bowl defensive end Jason Taylor will not play. The Redskins are being cautious with cornerback Carlos Rogers and linebacker Rocky McIntosh, both of whom are coming back from season-ending knee surgery, and neither will play 

QB's

Jim Sorgi (1st Q), Quinn Gray, Jared Lorenzen, Adam Tafarlis.

Jason Campbell (1-2 series), Todd Collins (2nd Q), rookie Colt Brennan (3rd Q), rookie Sam Hollenbach.

I expect these guys can put some points on the board especially in the first half. 



Good luck everyone (unless you are on the UNDER!)