CLEVELAND -1 Third time is a charm here! Lebrick turns back into Lebron at home... LAY IT!!!
really? I gotta sleep on that one. No Boston has not shown ANY killer instinct. But Cleveland is actin like they are simply lucky to be there and they have looked REAL bad in my estimation. However, IF Cleveland is gonna do anything, it has to be now.
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Quote Originally Posted by W8LIFTER:
CLEVELAND -1 Third time is a charm here! Lebrick turns back into Lebron at home... LAY IT!!!
really? I gotta sleep on that one. No Boston has not shown ANY killer instinct. But Cleveland is actin like they are simply lucky to be there and they have looked REAL bad in my estimation. However, IF Cleveland is gonna do anything, it has to be now.
Now that everyone is buzzing about the home teams being 11-0 SU in second round and 10-1 ATS it's time to turn the tables. If you want some stats to back that up read someone else's post. Here's why I think Boston will cover. They've set the spread at -1, right where everyone will say, "gee, they just have to win the game, and the home teams are winning every game, and Cleveland almost won in Boston playing like crap, and LeBron will be better at home, and their role players will step up at home, and..." and all that will be correct, except for them winning the game. Boston still has to prove to themselves they can win on the road after losing 3 in a row to the lowly Hawks (who were excellent at home all year and not that lowly) and they'll take this opportunity to do it, because they are the better team whether they are on the road, at home, or on the moon against Cleveland.
I've had such a good streak being a homer this round, can't believe I'm going against the grain...oh well,
Boston +1.5
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Now that everyone is buzzing about the home teams being 11-0 SU in second round and 10-1 ATS it's time to turn the tables. If you want some stats to back that up read someone else's post. Here's why I think Boston will cover. They've set the spread at -1, right where everyone will say, "gee, they just have to win the game, and the home teams are winning every game, and Cleveland almost won in Boston playing like crap, and LeBron will be better at home, and their role players will step up at home, and..." and all that will be correct, except for them winning the game. Boston still has to prove to themselves they can win on the road after losing 3 in a row to the lowly Hawks (who were excellent at home all year and not that lowly) and they'll take this opportunity to do it, because they are the better team whether they are on the road, at home, or on the moon against Cleveland.
I've had such a good streak being a homer this round, can't believe I'm going against the grain...oh well,
Now that everyone is buzzing about the home teams being 11-0 SU in second round and 10-1 ATS it's time to turn the tables. If you want some stats to back that up read someone else's post. Here's why I think Boston will cover. They've set the spread at -1, right where everyone will say, "gee, they just have to win the game, and the home teams are winning every game, and Cleveland almost won in Boston playing like crap, and LeBron will be better at home, and their role players will step up at home, and..." and all that will be correct, except for them winning the game. Boston still has to prove to themselves they can win on the road after losing 3 in a row to the lowly Hawks (who were excellent at home all year and not that lowly) and they'll take this opportunity to do it, because they are the better team whether they are on the road, at home, or on the moon against Cleveland.
I've had such a good streak being a homer this round, can't believe I'm going against the grain...oh well,
Boston
I couldn't agree more, cleveland looks like the obvious choice, Boston will win and win easily
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Quote Originally Posted by Odubiousone:
Now that everyone is buzzing about the home teams being 11-0 SU in second round and 10-1 ATS it's time to turn the tables. If you want some stats to back that up read someone else's post. Here's why I think Boston will cover. They've set the spread at -1, right where everyone will say, "gee, they just have to win the game, and the home teams are winning every game, and Cleveland almost won in Boston playing like crap, and LeBron will be better at home, and their role players will step up at home, and..." and all that will be correct, except for them winning the game. Boston still has to prove to themselves they can win on the road after losing 3 in a row to the lowly Hawks (who were excellent at home all year and not that lowly) and they'll take this opportunity to do it, because they are the better team whether they are on the road, at home, or on the moon against Cleveland.
I've had such a good streak being a homer this round, can't believe I'm going against the grain...oh well,
Boston
I couldn't agree more, cleveland looks like the obvious choice, Boston will win and win easily
I am leaning towards Boston for the game myself and leaning towards Cleveland early. My inclination is that Cleveland will come out firing to score fast and furious. But....as the game wears on, the Boston D will clamp down and suck the life and the game right out of Cleveland. I havent seen the lines yet, but I am leaning towards the under as I think vegas will be expecting the public to be looking for a shootout.
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Quote Originally Posted by Unit_G:
Resistance is futile . . .
BOSTN+1.5
Cool ass Borg reference dude.
I am leaning towards Boston for the game myself and leaning towards Cleveland early. My inclination is that Cleveland will come out firing to score fast and furious. But....as the game wears on, the Boston D will clamp down and suck the life and the game right out of Cleveland. I havent seen the lines yet, but I am leaning towards the under as I think vegas will be expecting the public to be looking for a shootout.
cleveland is another team that plays well at home. This will be the perfect cure for what ails lebron, a little crowd support and his boys will be hot. Wallace being out means a little more support on the offensive end and a little less double teaming lebron because they will have to at least account for joe smith. lebron said a bad game or a couple of games, not 3. Riding the game 3 response time. Cleveland has a little too much playoff experience to lose here.
also, every one of these games has gone over this number, but more importantly, the first halves have been were most of the scoring went down in both games ... first one in cleveland ... boston led 49-46, second one, Boston led 69-64. My original point here was that the first half over is a big play, but the more I think about it, I probably should have gone with BOS 1st half... that's my new favorite play on this game... anyways, here's my card on this game
1st half Over (88?) (big) CLE total points ov 88.5
CLE -1 (i'd buy down to 1, the game that the cavs won by more than 1 went OT, so these ones are squeakers for them)
... may still play smaller on BOS 1st half... wishing i had researched more before posting.
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cleveland is another team that plays well at home. This will be the perfect cure for what ails lebron, a little crowd support and his boys will be hot. Wallace being out means a little more support on the offensive end and a little less double teaming lebron because they will have to at least account for joe smith. lebron said a bad game or a couple of games, not 3. Riding the game 3 response time. Cleveland has a little too much playoff experience to lose here.
also, every one of these games has gone over this number, but more importantly, the first halves have been were most of the scoring went down in both games ... first one in cleveland ... boston led 49-46, second one, Boston led 69-64. My original point here was that the first half over is a big play, but the more I think about it, I probably should have gone with BOS 1st half... that's my new favorite play on this game... anyways, here's my card on this game
1st half Over (88?) (big) CLE total points ov 88.5
CLE -1 (i'd buy down to 1, the game that the cavs won by more than 1 went OT, so these ones are squeakers for them)
... may still play smaller on BOS 1st half... wishing i had researched more before posting.
Of all the series in the second round, this seems like the biggest mismatch, and should not go to 7 games or even 6 games. That means Boston will win one of those games on the road. The question now remains, which of those road games will Boston win???
One could wait until game 4 and see the outcome of this game first, then take the loser of this game to win game 4. The way I see it, Cleveland will be in a very desperate position to win a game to remain in this series, and they will win this one. The rest of the team will step it up today, and LBJ WILL have a huge game after 2 straight duds in Beantown. This will set up Boston to win game 4 and probably close it out in 5.
For this game, Cleveland ATS.
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Of all the series in the second round, this seems like the biggest mismatch, and should not go to 7 games or even 6 games. That means Boston will win one of those games on the road. The question now remains, which of those road games will Boston win???
One could wait until game 4 and see the outcome of this game first, then take the loser of this game to win game 4. The way I see it, Cleveland will be in a very desperate position to win a game to remain in this series, and they will win this one. The rest of the team will step it up today, and LBJ WILL have a huge game after 2 straight duds in Beantown. This will set up Boston to win game 4 and probably close it out in 5.
Maluke I'm thinking very much the same even though the points here are pretty much meaningless. If Cleveland wins outright they will probably cover the 1.5. I just don't see it being a 1 point game.
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Boston - 88 Cleveland - 83
Celtics +1.5 under 175.5
Maluke I'm thinking very much the same even though the points here are pretty much meaningless. If Cleveland wins outright they will probably cover the 1.5. I just don't see it being a 1 point game.
I like the over in this one pretty big. Based on the last series with Atlanta, Boston defensively wasn't nearly as good away from home (all three away playoff games went over). If you watched the last two games between these teams, you saw the Cavs settling for jump shots (one and done) and the refs letting them play. I think you see alot more of Lebron driving to the basket in this one early on and getting the benefit of a ton of foul calls at home. Cavs - 102, Celts 94
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I like the over in this one pretty big. Based on the last series with Atlanta, Boston defensively wasn't nearly as good away from home (all three away playoff games went over). If you watched the last two games between these teams, you saw the Cavs settling for jump shots (one and done) and the refs letting them play. I think you see alot more of Lebron driving to the basket in this one early on and getting the benefit of a ton of foul calls at home. Cavs - 102, Celts 94
cleveland is another team that plays well at home. This will be the perfect cure for what ails lebron, a little crowd support and his boys will be hot. Wallace being out means a little more support on the offensive end and a little less double teaming lebron because they will have to at least account for joe smith. lebron said a bad game or a couple of games, not 3. Riding the game 3 response time. Cleveland has a little too much playoff experience to lose here.
also, every one of these games has gone over this number, but more importantly, the first halves have been were most of the scoring went down in both games ... first one in cleveland ... boston led 49-46, second one, Boston led 69-64. My original point here was that the first half over is a big play, but the more I think about it, I probably should have gone with BOS 1st half... that's my new favorite play on this game... anyways, here's my card on this game
1st half Over (88?) (big) CLE total points ov 88.5
CLE -1 (i'd buy down to 1, the game that the cavs won by more than 1 went OT, so these ones are squeakers for them)
... may still play smaller on BOS 1st half... wishing i had researched more before posting.
You may want to take the Celtics in the first half and for the game here wang...keep in mind that the Cavs really aren't as good at home where it matters....AGAINST THE SPREAD!! Especially in this game where the line is at 1.5 right now in most places. The Cavs this year ATS at home are 17-27 while the Celtics are the opposite of that on the road...27-16.
The biggest factor for me in this game is that Ben Wallace will not be playing. In Game 1, he was a force inside...not necessarily on the stat sheet, but just being a presence and playing his physical type of basketball. The Celtics were hesitant to drive to the basket because they knew Ilgauskas and Wallace were down there. Without Big Ben, the Cavs lose a lot inside. You can just move around Big Z, and that's what the C's did in Game 2. Without that extra shot blocker inside the Celtics drove to the hoop and either got fouled or got a layup.
Now obviously Cleveland is going to play better because they can't play any worse. The Celtics are doing exactly what the Spurs did last year to LeBron, don't let him drive to the hoop, and if he does, make sure three guys are on him. Let him take all the outside jump shots he wants, because he's not going to make them. He does his damage when he's driving to the hoop and getting to the free throw line. He's still getting to the free throw line in this series simply because he is flopping around and acting like he's getting murdered, but he is shooting terribly from everywhere else.
This is a tough pick because we all know what the C's did on the road against Atlanta. That's the main reason to take the Cavs here. However, that is very fresh in their minds, and you know they are going to be as focused as ever on this game. The defensive intensity that they showed in Boston is going to be there even more here, because they know what happens when they slack off. Celtics win this game, Cavs win Game 4 maybe...and that's it.
OVER 88 1st half Celtics +1.5 OVER 176 game
Prediction: Celtics 97 Cavs 92
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Quote Originally Posted by wangichu:
cleveland is another team that plays well at home. This will be the perfect cure for what ails lebron, a little crowd support and his boys will be hot. Wallace being out means a little more support on the offensive end and a little less double teaming lebron because they will have to at least account for joe smith. lebron said a bad game or a couple of games, not 3. Riding the game 3 response time. Cleveland has a little too much playoff experience to lose here.
also, every one of these games has gone over this number, but more importantly, the first halves have been were most of the scoring went down in both games ... first one in cleveland ... boston led 49-46, second one, Boston led 69-64. My original point here was that the first half over is a big play, but the more I think about it, I probably should have gone with BOS 1st half... that's my new favorite play on this game... anyways, here's my card on this game
1st half Over (88?) (big) CLE total points ov 88.5
CLE -1 (i'd buy down to 1, the game that the cavs won by more than 1 went OT, so these ones are squeakers for them)
... may still play smaller on BOS 1st half... wishing i had researched more before posting.
You may want to take the Celtics in the first half and for the game here wang...keep in mind that the Cavs really aren't as good at home where it matters....AGAINST THE SPREAD!! Especially in this game where the line is at 1.5 right now in most places. The Cavs this year ATS at home are 17-27 while the Celtics are the opposite of that on the road...27-16.
The biggest factor for me in this game is that Ben Wallace will not be playing. In Game 1, he was a force inside...not necessarily on the stat sheet, but just being a presence and playing his physical type of basketball. The Celtics were hesitant to drive to the basket because they knew Ilgauskas and Wallace were down there. Without Big Ben, the Cavs lose a lot inside. You can just move around Big Z, and that's what the C's did in Game 2. Without that extra shot blocker inside the Celtics drove to the hoop and either got fouled or got a layup.
Now obviously Cleveland is going to play better because they can't play any worse. The Celtics are doing exactly what the Spurs did last year to LeBron, don't let him drive to the hoop, and if he does, make sure three guys are on him. Let him take all the outside jump shots he wants, because he's not going to make them. He does his damage when he's driving to the hoop and getting to the free throw line. He's still getting to the free throw line in this series simply because he is flopping around and acting like he's getting murdered, but he is shooting terribly from everywhere else.
This is a tough pick because we all know what the C's did on the road against Atlanta. That's the main reason to take the Cavs here. However, that is very fresh in their minds, and you know they are going to be as focused as ever on this game. The defensive intensity that they showed in Boston is going to be there even more here, because they know what happens when they slack off. Celtics win this game, Cavs win Game 4 maybe...and that's it.
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