No need for work anymore Rick! Obama's gonna start paying mortgages and putting gas in cars.......
Wasn't it your man McCain who made the hilarious statement that the government would buy up all the mortgages to help keep people in their homes??
Hopefully I become a corporate crook and lose everyones retirement fund because the government will just send me some money and say tough luck, try again.
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Quote Originally Posted by TIMBER9:
No need for work anymore Rick! Obama's gonna start paying mortgages and putting gas in cars.......
Wasn't it your man McCain who made the hilarious statement that the government would buy up all the mortgages to help keep people in their homes??
Hopefully I become a corporate crook and lose everyones retirement fund because the government will just send me some money and say tough luck, try again.
I am waiting for the over/under on how long it takes for someone to shoot at Obama!
4 Presidents are enough
I am a Ron Paul guy, and think Obama will be the end of this country as we know it but I hope and pray nothing violent happens to him.Wishing death on a president is very low class ( IMO )
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Quote Originally Posted by Slimdaddy2004:
I am waiting for the over/under on how long it takes for someone to shoot at Obama!
4 Presidents are enough
I am a Ron Paul guy, and think Obama will be the end of this country as we know it but I hope and pray nothing violent happens to him.Wishing death on a president is very low class ( IMO )
I am a Ron Paul guy, and think Obama will be the end of this country as we know it but I hope and pray nothing violent happens to him.Wishing death on a president is very low class ( IMO )
Capo, I am not wishing death on the man. Truly, I hope America proves me wrong and votes him in. I just know how truly racist a huge number of the white population are in this great US of A! I know that extremist are choping at the bit to shoot at the first black president. It just might happen a generation or two before they thought.
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Quote Originally Posted by CapoDiTuttiCapi:
4 Presidents are enough
I am a Ron Paul guy, and think Obama will be the end of this country as we know it but I hope and pray nothing violent happens to him.Wishing death on a president is very low class ( IMO )
Capo, I am not wishing death on the man. Truly, I hope America proves me wrong and votes him in. I just know how truly racist a huge number of the white population are in this great US of A! I know that extremist are choping at the bit to shoot at the first black president. It just might happen a generation or two before they thought.
So rick, are you so dilusional that you think that only conservatives have jobs? That is hilarious. Don't you understand that most college grads are liberal? Who do you think has most of the jobs, College grads or non-college grads?
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So rick, are you so dilusional that you think that only conservatives have jobs? That is hilarious. Don't you understand that most college grads are liberal? Who do you think has most of the jobs, College grads or non-college grads?
I love all these comments on that the "America has still not gotten over the race issue..." What a joke. How about it is that Obama is the penultimate panderer, second only to Hillary? I don't know about you guys, but watching him on tv makes my skin crawl. I am not an avid McCain supporter by any stretch, but he is certainly the better of the two candidates. The US would benefit from a multiparty system when, and if, we ever get there.
Here are the poll numbers, IBD has been the most accurate in the last several elections. A little bit of study of this poll would indicate that a majority of certain age groups and employment levels were polled. I leave it to you.
And the continuation of why anybody would compare Palin to Obama still makes me think that people like repeating exactly what they hear on tv. Palin is on the ticket as the VP, not the president. For a valid comparison to happen, one needs to pick two apples: Obama and McCain.
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I love all these comments on that the "America has still not gotten over the race issue..." What a joke. How about it is that Obama is the penultimate panderer, second only to Hillary? I don't know about you guys, but watching him on tv makes my skin crawl. I am not an avid McCain supporter by any stretch, but he is certainly the better of the two candidates. The US would benefit from a multiparty system when, and if, we ever get there.
Here are the poll numbers, IBD has been the most accurate in the last several elections. A little bit of study of this poll would indicate that a majority of certain age groups and employment levels were polled. I leave it to you.
And the continuation of why anybody would compare Palin to Obama still makes me think that people like repeating exactly what they hear on tv. Palin is on the ticket as the VP, not the president. For a valid comparison to happen, one needs to pick two apples: Obama and McCain.
Just to chime in here, conservatives are ones who have jobs that don't bitch about how much others make and want someone in power to distribute it for everyone else to have. Since most Americans are NOT college graduates, they are the lion's share of employees.
Today's Democratic platform is about pandering to the people through promise after promise, not removing barriers for people to get for themselves. Even the GOP is beginning to jump on this bandwagon. For the last two years we have had a Democratic Congress--the one with the power to spend--what have any of you seen in the last two years that is good for the masses?
Surely I must be mistaken here, but the only thing I have heard Obama talk a lot about is "Change" and "Hope". Change to what? What are we hoping for? How many of you "hope" when you make a bet? Personally, I do some research and am as sure as possible when laying my hard-earned cash down--hope is for people who are relying on shit that they have not researched and have zero control over. What promises has Obama made? What do you think will actually come to pass?
And where is this magic list of conservatives that support McCain? What conservative of consequence is on the list?
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Slimdaddy2004,
Just to chime in here, conservatives are ones who have jobs that don't bitch about how much others make and want someone in power to distribute it for everyone else to have. Since most Americans are NOT college graduates, they are the lion's share of employees.
Today's Democratic platform is about pandering to the people through promise after promise, not removing barriers for people to get for themselves. Even the GOP is beginning to jump on this bandwagon. For the last two years we have had a Democratic Congress--the one with the power to spend--what have any of you seen in the last two years that is good for the masses?
Surely I must be mistaken here, but the only thing I have heard Obama talk a lot about is "Change" and "Hope". Change to what? What are we hoping for? How many of you "hope" when you make a bet? Personally, I do some research and am as sure as possible when laying my hard-earned cash down--hope is for people who are relying on shit that they have not researched and have zero control over. What promises has Obama made? What do you think will actually come to pass?
And where is this magic list of conservatives that support McCain? What conservative of consequence is on the list?
Only way McCain wins is if half of the white voters who have been saying all along that they will vote for Obama don't. This is very possible since America has never truly gotten over our Race issue. We kind of just figure, if we don't mention that it exists, it doesn't exist. I on the other hand will not give Obama the election until I see McCain give his consession speech because I know racism is alive and well in White America. Now, I also know that racism is alive and well in all America, but we are focusing on the whites only because white America still counts for over 75% of the votes! I am not being a bigot, do the math; one can't get elected without their blessing.
This guy is a step from the White House and you're playing the preemptive race card. You should be embarrassed.
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Quote Originally Posted by Slimdaddy2004:
Only way McCain wins is if half of the white voters who have been saying all along that they will vote for Obama don't. This is very possible since America has never truly gotten over our Race issue. We kind of just figure, if we don't mention that it exists, it doesn't exist. I on the other hand will not give Obama the election until I see McCain give his consession speech because I know racism is alive and well in White America. Now, I also know that racism is alive and well in all America, but we are focusing on the whites only because white America still counts for over 75% of the votes! I am not being a bigot, do the math; one can't get elected without their blessing.
This guy is a step from the White House and you're playing the preemptive race card. You should be embarrassed.
So rick, are you so dilusional that you think that only conservatives have jobs? That is hilarious. Don't you understand that most college grads are liberal? Who do you think has most of the jobs, College grads or non-college grads?
Lol, considering that only about 40% of Americans graduate from College, I would be willing to bet that a lot more non-grads have more jobs. Then to say that "most" college grads are liberals is another dumbass statement. Its not like everyone that is raised in a christian based conservitive household goes to college and becomes liberal. Most people that are on welfare for long period of time are liberal too!! Great insight simdaddy.
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Quote Originally Posted by Slimdaddy2004:
So rick, are you so dilusional that you think that only conservatives have jobs? That is hilarious. Don't you understand that most college grads are liberal? Who do you think has most of the jobs, College grads or non-college grads?
Lol, considering that only about 40% of Americans graduate from College, I would be willing to bet that a lot more non-grads have more jobs. Then to say that "most" college grads are liberals is another dumbass statement. Its not like everyone that is raised in a christian based conservitive household goes to college and becomes liberal. Most people that are on welfare for long period of time are liberal too!! Great insight simdaddy.
Lol, considering that only about 40% of Americans graduate from College, I would be willing to bet that a lot more non-grads have more jobs. Then to say that "most" college grads are liberals is another dumbass statement. Its not like everyone that is raised in a christian based conservitive household goes to college and becomes liberal. Most people that are on welfare for long period of time are liberal too!! Great insight simdaddy.
Look man, most college grads vote while people who are not as educated tend not to vote! Plain facts. Since percentage wise most minorities are not as educated as whites, whites tend to vote in higher percentages than minorites. I know people don't want to hear stuff like that, but it is the simple truth.
I went to business school, so most of the people in my classes were conservative. It advantagous for a business student to be conservative. Well if you plan on being a business owner or a business executive that is due to the tax breaks that benefit corporations, businesses, and people who have money to invest in financial markets. Problem is that I would say about 30% of the B-School students I came across were not conservative. These peopel felt like it was their duty when they become successful to help others.
Most college grads are not business grads. Most study liberal arts and sciences. I don't care what background you come from if you are a true scientist, you cannot be conservative for religious reasons. It is too contradictory. Even if you are christian, you believe in evolution, pro-life, and probably believe in the big bang theory. If one is a true scientist which inlcudes engineers, science teachers and college professors, doctors, chemists, physicists, etc., one may be religious but not fannanitcal like the christian based conserviatives. No way!
I'll say that more than half the law grads are liberal. I think you would agree considering that most conservatives believe that liberals want to let anyone sue for anything. Therefore, lawyers will hurt themselves by being conservative.
So, I would say that all in all about 60% of college grads are liberal in nature. Only the non-science grads could use religion as a basis of their political standing.
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Quote Originally Posted by dtv001:
Lol, considering that only about 40% of Americans graduate from College, I would be willing to bet that a lot more non-grads have more jobs. Then to say that "most" college grads are liberals is another dumbass statement. Its not like everyone that is raised in a christian based conservitive household goes to college and becomes liberal. Most people that are on welfare for long period of time are liberal too!! Great insight simdaddy.
Look man, most college grads vote while people who are not as educated tend not to vote! Plain facts. Since percentage wise most minorities are not as educated as whites, whites tend to vote in higher percentages than minorites. I know people don't want to hear stuff like that, but it is the simple truth.
I went to business school, so most of the people in my classes were conservative. It advantagous for a business student to be conservative. Well if you plan on being a business owner or a business executive that is due to the tax breaks that benefit corporations, businesses, and people who have money to invest in financial markets. Problem is that I would say about 30% of the B-School students I came across were not conservative. These peopel felt like it was their duty when they become successful to help others.
Most college grads are not business grads. Most study liberal arts and sciences. I don't care what background you come from if you are a true scientist, you cannot be conservative for religious reasons. It is too contradictory. Even if you are christian, you believe in evolution, pro-life, and probably believe in the big bang theory. If one is a true scientist which inlcudes engineers, science teachers and college professors, doctors, chemists, physicists, etc., one may be religious but not fannanitcal like the christian based conserviatives. No way!
I'll say that more than half the law grads are liberal. I think you would agree considering that most conservatives believe that liberals want to let anyone sue for anything. Therefore, lawyers will hurt themselves by being conservative.
So, I would say that all in all about 60% of college grads are liberal in nature. Only the non-science grads could use religion as a basis of their political standing.
This guy is a step from the White House and you're playing the preemptive race card. You should be embarrassed.
skuravy,
I am not playing the race card. That is the kind of response I would expect from an insecure white guy. I would rather you tell me your true feelings about blacks rather than try to say I am using a race card. First of all, understand what playing that hand truly is. For me to play the race card, I would have to want this guy to win. I have not stated who I am voting for yet, so please do not go there; I didn't. I am just pointing out how America truly is. This great country of ours is only 40 years removed from Jim Crow! Is that even two generations?! I am 34, and mine was the first generation to grow up believing that racism is wrong! Things have gotten better between whites and blacks, but to say that we have healed from those deep wounds is unrealistic. So when I say the statement I made earlier, I am not condeming whites for their feelings. I am rather saying that I understand that 400 years of teaching that one race is supperior to the other does not go away over night, and I can see many of those people not voting for a black guy with a Muslim name when no one is watching. I am thinking of playing McCain and the plus money just because of that.
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Quote Originally Posted by skuravy:
This guy is a step from the White House and you're playing the preemptive race card. You should be embarrassed.
skuravy,
I am not playing the race card. That is the kind of response I would expect from an insecure white guy. I would rather you tell me your true feelings about blacks rather than try to say I am using a race card. First of all, understand what playing that hand truly is. For me to play the race card, I would have to want this guy to win. I have not stated who I am voting for yet, so please do not go there; I didn't. I am just pointing out how America truly is. This great country of ours is only 40 years removed from Jim Crow! Is that even two generations?! I am 34, and mine was the first generation to grow up believing that racism is wrong! Things have gotten better between whites and blacks, but to say that we have healed from those deep wounds is unrealistic. So when I say the statement I made earlier, I am not condeming whites for their feelings. I am rather saying that I understand that 400 years of teaching that one race is supperior to the other does not go away over night, and I can see many of those people not voting for a black guy with a Muslim name when no one is watching. I am thinking of playing McCain and the plus money just because of that.
Tell me the drive-by media isn't corrupt if Obama doesn't win in a landslide. All polls have him comfortably ahead, if the numbers are different tomorrow night, then it's on the liberal media. Even if it is close, it will show them as corrupt. We will never hear that though.
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Tell me the drive-by media isn't corrupt if Obama doesn't win in a landslide. All polls have him comfortably ahead, if the numbers are different tomorrow night, then it's on the liberal media. Even if it is close, it will show them as corrupt. We will never hear that though.
Paulsy, dude it's not just the liberal media. There are right-wing pollsters too (Rasmussen for one). The pollsters for the most part take their job seriously and are just trying to get it right. There may some with an agenda here and there, but not the whole lot of them. If they are all wrong then either: a) there was a flaw in all methodology, b) something changed the last day, c) the bradley effect, or d) the election was stolen.
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Paulsy, dude it's not just the liberal media. There are right-wing pollsters too (Rasmussen for one). The pollsters for the most part take their job seriously and are just trying to get it right. There may some with an agenda here and there, but not the whole lot of them. If they are all wrong then either: a) there was a flaw in all methodology, b) something changed the last day, c) the bradley effect, or d) the election was stolen.
McCain has to have busses with schoolchildren driven in to fill his rallies, and they are still only a tenth of Obama's.
He might win. Just like NFL is fixed, the election might be.
The day America started to use electronic voting machines without a paper ballot to use for verification, was the day American democracy became a banana republic democracy.
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McCain has to have busses with schoolchildren driven in to fill his rallies, and they are still only a tenth of Obama's.
He might win. Just like NFL is fixed, the election might be.
The day America started to use electronic voting machines without a paper ballot to use for verification, was the day American democracy became a banana republic democracy.
it's also still funny how all of you think Obama and all Muslim's are terrorists. also Obama is not even black.. he;s Muslim (even though he says he isn't Muslim.. wanting all the white vote).
I feel McCain wins because white people will never vote a "terrorist Muslim" in office.
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it's also still funny how all of you think Obama and all Muslim's are terrorists. also Obama is not even black.. he;s Muslim (even though he says he isn't Muslim.. wanting all the white vote).
I feel McCain wins because white people will never vote a "terrorist Muslim" in office.
Excuse me, am I missing something?? From George Washigton to George Washigton Bush can you tell me how many of these American Presidents were not Freemen that allowed them to be Free-Masons, who are the ones that have a common goal among each other and not the herd... In the Statue of Liberty reads a sign that says this government was handed down by the French Orient Masons.... So I think if you knew the common goal of the elite you might know their direction of whom will be President... Its not up to u bumbs, thats why u should become a Rebupli-Crat be both, they are...
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Excuse me, am I missing something?? From George Washigton to George Washigton Bush can you tell me how many of these American Presidents were not Freemen that allowed them to be Free-Masons, who are the ones that have a common goal among each other and not the herd... In the Statue of Liberty reads a sign that says this government was handed down by the French Orient Masons.... So I think if you knew the common goal of the elite you might know their direction of whom will be President... Its not up to u bumbs, thats why u should become a Rebupli-Crat be both, they are...
I have always seen list's of famous Masons. To just look at the name means very little. When you date and place those names in the proper time line and placement of power you begin to see the deception and vastness of this power elite. What will shock you even more is to learn who the powers are behind the Freemasons. Notice the death's of non Masonic presidents or those who lost favor, and the shuffling of the vice presidents to get them in the position of takeover before the presidents were killed or removed. Note also the number of presidential running mates who lost the race for presidency were Masons also. A win win situation regardless of the outcome of the election. The Mason's have controlled this country from the beginning. Another interesting fact to consider is that of the 37 Presidents of the United States before Jimmy Carter, at least 18 or 21 (depending on which source you believe) were close relatives. That comes to somewhere between 48.6 percent and 56.7 percent-far to much to be coincidence, as any conspiritologist (or mathematician) would tell you. Of the 224 ancestors in the family tree of 21 Presidents, we find 13 Roosevelt's, 16 Coolidge's, and 14 Tyler's. Another source manages to relate 60 percent of the Presidents and link most of them to the super-rich Astor family. This data does not include genealogies of the five most recent President. Psychologist G. William Domhoff claims that a large part of America's Ruling elite, just like that of Europe, are related by marriage. (Everything is Under Control. Conspiracies, Cults, and Cover-Ups by Robert Anton Wilson pg 39-40)
This article is not intended to defame this country's forefathers. See Secret Societies All I am doing here is listing the facts. I will list other authors articles for you to refer to as corroboration. These names were compiled from the Masons own list of famous names posted on there websites. (See Links Below), along with other reputable sources. The names used in this document have been used from that list along with a brief summary of who they were,(*Encyclopedia Britannica, 15th edition.) and the role they played in our history. Keep in mind, you can not be a Christian and a practicing Mason, its an oxymoron. There are those who would write history in a form to hide its true meaning and agenda's. Rewriting U.S. History So it has been from the beginning. (The Masons write most of American History, for example the Mason's own Encyclopedia Britannica). The red dates are confirmed Mason Power years over this country as far as the Presidency, or Vice Presidency is concern.....
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I have always seen list's of famous Masons. To just look at the name means very little. When you date and place those names in the proper time line and placement of power you begin to see the deception and vastness of this power elite. What will shock you even more is to learn who the powers are behind the Freemasons. Notice the death's of non Masonic presidents or those who lost favor, and the shuffling of the vice presidents to get them in the position of takeover before the presidents were killed or removed. Note also the number of presidential running mates who lost the race for presidency were Masons also. A win win situation regardless of the outcome of the election. The Mason's have controlled this country from the beginning. Another interesting fact to consider is that of the 37 Presidents of the United States before Jimmy Carter, at least 18 or 21 (depending on which source you believe) were close relatives. That comes to somewhere between 48.6 percent and 56.7 percent-far to much to be coincidence, as any conspiritologist (or mathematician) would tell you. Of the 224 ancestors in the family tree of 21 Presidents, we find 13 Roosevelt's, 16 Coolidge's, and 14 Tyler's. Another source manages to relate 60 percent of the Presidents and link most of them to the super-rich Astor family. This data does not include genealogies of the five most recent President. Psychologist G. William Domhoff claims that a large part of America's Ruling elite, just like that of Europe, are related by marriage. (Everything is Under Control. Conspiracies, Cults, and Cover-Ups by Robert Anton Wilson pg 39-40)
This article is not intended to defame this country's forefathers. See Secret Societies All I am doing here is listing the facts. I will list other authors articles for you to refer to as corroboration. These names were compiled from the Masons own list of famous names posted on there websites. (See Links Below), along with other reputable sources. The names used in this document have been used from that list along with a brief summary of who they were,(*Encyclopedia Britannica, 15th edition.) and the role they played in our history. Keep in mind, you can not be a Christian and a practicing Mason, its an oxymoron. There are those who would write history in a form to hide its true meaning and agenda's. Rewriting U.S. History So it has been from the beginning. (The Masons write most of American History, for example the Mason's own Encyclopedia Britannica). The red dates are confirmed Mason Power years over this country as far as the Presidency, or Vice Presidency is concern.....
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