every person over the age of 18 will now have to spend 2500 a year at walmart. There will be no exceptions. Every person not spending 2500 will be fined 5000 and face a jail sentence.
Todays decision by the Supreme court is a complete joke. Forcing people to buy insurance from a private company is just plain wrong and goes to show you how powerful the insurance industry is, when they can get a conservative judge to side with the liberals. Wonder how much cash was funneled into his accounts.
Get ready for a major fucking from the insurance scumbags. Today was a giant win for those filthy rich dirtbags
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every person over the age of 18 will now have to spend 2500 a year at walmart. There will be no exceptions. Every person not spending 2500 will be fined 5000 and face a jail sentence.
Todays decision by the Supreme court is a complete joke. Forcing people to buy insurance from a private company is just plain wrong and goes to show you how powerful the insurance industry is, when they can get a conservative judge to side with the liberals. Wonder how much cash was funneled into his accounts.
Get ready for a major fucking from the insurance scumbags. Today was a giant win for those filthy rich dirtbags
Completely agree with you CD look at the people that wrote this shit. The insurance companies and left wing think tanks. We will be finding stuff out about this stinker for decades as the thousand pages of legalese encompassed in this bill are decoded.
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Completely agree with you CD look at the people that wrote this shit. The insurance companies and left wing think tanks. We will be finding stuff out about this stinker for decades as the thousand pages of legalese encompassed in this bill are decoded.
On the contrary Boys, this is a great deal for you and the country, the middle class. And businesses too for that matter. They can now compete with foreign countries.
Young people can stay on their parents insurance for 7 more years, until the age of 26 years . And, Insurance companies cannot rip you off by dropping you when you are really sick.
Take Medicare for example, I can guarantee that your Grand parents, and/or Parents love it. For about 98.00 per month, their hospital stay is almost fully covered for up 3 months. also with in home nursing visits for a year. Part B outpatient care and / General Dr.visits are free, in most cases, or 80% is paid, depending.
So eventually it will become Medicare for All, and that will over time reduce premiums, because the young do not need as much care, but they will be covered in the event of severe illness. I figure in a few years, it will about 72.00 a month for everyone. 18.00 a week for health care.
Hospital emergency rooms will no longer be full of poor people waiting for free care, thereby reducing hosptial costs.
So think, read, and learn before you go off in a rant.
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On the contrary Boys, this is a great deal for you and the country, the middle class. And businesses too for that matter. They can now compete with foreign countries.
Young people can stay on their parents insurance for 7 more years, until the age of 26 years . And, Insurance companies cannot rip you off by dropping you when you are really sick.
Take Medicare for example, I can guarantee that your Grand parents, and/or Parents love it. For about 98.00 per month, their hospital stay is almost fully covered for up 3 months. also with in home nursing visits for a year. Part B outpatient care and / General Dr.visits are free, in most cases, or 80% is paid, depending.
So eventually it will become Medicare for All, and that will over time reduce premiums, because the young do not need as much care, but they will be covered in the event of severe illness. I figure in a few years, it will about 72.00 a month for everyone. 18.00 a week for health care.
Hospital emergency rooms will no longer be full of poor people waiting for free care, thereby reducing hosptial costs.
So think, read, and learn before you go off in a rant.
Unlike other countries, money goes to insurance companies instead of the government. Politically, US government cannot create an insurance company and support by private sector is necessary for Obamacare to exist. Truly, an made-in-America solution to universal healthcare.
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Unlike other countries, money goes to insurance companies instead of the government. Politically, US government cannot create an insurance company and support by private sector is necessary for Obamacare to exist. Truly, an made-in-America solution to universal healthcare.
On the contrary Boys, this is a great deal for you and the country, the middle class. And businesses too for that matter. They can now compete with foreign countries.
Young people can stay on their parents insurance for 7 more years, until the age of 26 years . And, Insurance companies cannot rip you off by dropping you when you are really sick.
Take Medicare for example, I can guarantee that your Grand parents, and/or Parents love it. For about 98.00 per month, their hospital stay is almost fully covered for up 3 months. also with in home nursing visits for a year. Part B outpatient care and / General Dr.visits are free, in most cases, or 80% is paid, depending.
So eventually it will become Medicare for All, and that will over time reduce premiums, because the young do not need as much care, but they will be covered in the event of severe illness. I figure in a few years, it will about 72.00 a month for everyone. 18.00 a week for health care.
Hospital emergency rooms will no longer be full of poor people waiting for free care, thereby reducing hosptial costs.
So think, read, and learn before you go off in a rant.
Medicare for all eh?
Sucks for you since your medicare is being gutted to pay for it.
You will find that out in a couple years. Especially if you ever need an operation. Contributions will undoubtedly have to go up. Guess what won't your Social Security. This just dropped your quality of life in so many ways, but you refuse to acknowledge that.
People staying on their parents health care is not a big deal. I am in favor of that. Not sure too many people are against it. Kind of sad for someone that old to not have their own health care, but if they need it sure, what the hell. It is not like they will be getting employee healthcare in Obama's economy.
Hospitals will no longer be full of people getting free care because instead of 41 billion (annually for free care). We will be spending 500 billion (from taxpayers), and 500 billion (from medicare) to have universal free care for all that want it.
This is just increasing the price of free care, while making scary precedents for future law.
Don't you understand that.
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Quote Originally Posted by don juan:
On the contrary Boys, this is a great deal for you and the country, the middle class. And businesses too for that matter. They can now compete with foreign countries.
Young people can stay on their parents insurance for 7 more years, until the age of 26 years . And, Insurance companies cannot rip you off by dropping you when you are really sick.
Take Medicare for example, I can guarantee that your Grand parents, and/or Parents love it. For about 98.00 per month, their hospital stay is almost fully covered for up 3 months. also with in home nursing visits for a year. Part B outpatient care and / General Dr.visits are free, in most cases, or 80% is paid, depending.
So eventually it will become Medicare for All, and that will over time reduce premiums, because the young do not need as much care, but they will be covered in the event of severe illness. I figure in a few years, it will about 72.00 a month for everyone. 18.00 a week for health care.
Hospital emergency rooms will no longer be full of poor people waiting for free care, thereby reducing hosptial costs.
So think, read, and learn before you go off in a rant.
Medicare for all eh?
Sucks for you since your medicare is being gutted to pay for it.
You will find that out in a couple years. Especially if you ever need an operation. Contributions will undoubtedly have to go up. Guess what won't your Social Security. This just dropped your quality of life in so many ways, but you refuse to acknowledge that.
People staying on their parents health care is not a big deal. I am in favor of that. Not sure too many people are against it. Kind of sad for someone that old to not have their own health care, but if they need it sure, what the hell. It is not like they will be getting employee healthcare in Obama's economy.
Hospitals will no longer be full of people getting free care because instead of 41 billion (annually for free care). We will be spending 500 billion (from taxpayers), and 500 billion (from medicare) to have universal free care for all that want it.
This is just increasing the price of free care, while making scary precedents for future law.
Sorry but your comment about Medicare is not a positive thing.
Yes those benefits are available for current seniors, but who is paying for those benefits?
Not you..
One stay in the hospital at current prices and you have cashed out ALL your 2.9% contributions at lower income levels and about 5 other peoples as well.
Medicare has to be chopped up and eliminated if you make more than the median income, it bugs me when seniors get selfish and greedy about Medicare..ignoring the obvious concerning who is paying for their healthcare and the fact others will not remotely be as lucky as our current seniors.
My inlaws were able to retire in their 60s because of the stock market and housing run, I dont think many current workers will be so lucky.
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don juan,
Sorry but your comment about Medicare is not a positive thing.
Yes those benefits are available for current seniors, but who is paying for those benefits?
Not you..
One stay in the hospital at current prices and you have cashed out ALL your 2.9% contributions at lower income levels and about 5 other peoples as well.
Medicare has to be chopped up and eliminated if you make more than the median income, it bugs me when seniors get selfish and greedy about Medicare..ignoring the obvious concerning who is paying for their healthcare and the fact others will not remotely be as lucky as our current seniors.
My inlaws were able to retire in their 60s because of the stock market and housing run, I dont think many current workers will be so lucky.
every person over the age of 18 will now have to spend 2500 a year at walmart. There will be no exceptions. Every person not spending 2500 will be fined 5000 and face a jail sentence.
Todays decision by the Supreme court is a complete joke. Forcing people to buy insurance from a private company is just plain wrong and goes to show you how powerful the insurance industry is, when they can get a conservative judge to side with the liberals. Wonder how much cash was funneled into his accounts.
Get ready for a major fucking from the insurance scumbags. Today was a giant win for those filthy rich dirtbags
my God I agree with you.
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
every person over the age of 18 will now have to spend 2500 a year at walmart. There will be no exceptions. Every person not spending 2500 will be fined 5000 and face a jail sentence.
Todays decision by the Supreme court is a complete joke. Forcing people to buy insurance from a private company is just plain wrong and goes to show you how powerful the insurance industry is, when they can get a conservative judge to side with the liberals. Wonder how much cash was funneled into his accounts.
Get ready for a major fucking from the insurance scumbags. Today was a giant win for those filthy rich dirtbags
I agree the health care system is broken, the politicians never really tried to fix the system and instead took the easy way out passing this garbage of a bill. In the end, the dirtbag insurance industry is the winner hands down.
My walmart thing is a joke, but in reality thats what could happen now, if the politicians decided they wanted the American people to purchase something from a private business. They can now do it, all in the name of the tax code.
The underground group who has been writing this bill for years and force fed it to the politicians to pass, should all rot. And every politician who didnt even bother to read and understand the bill, should be removed from office {which am sure is every lazy one of them}
way to go politicians and supreme court members you all earned your monies today
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I agree the health care system is broken, the politicians never really tried to fix the system and instead took the easy way out passing this garbage of a bill. In the end, the dirtbag insurance industry is the winner hands down.
My walmart thing is a joke, but in reality thats what could happen now, if the politicians decided they wanted the American people to purchase something from a private business. They can now do it, all in the name of the tax code.
The underground group who has been writing this bill for years and force fed it to the politicians to pass, should all rot. And every politician who didnt even bother to read and understand the bill, should be removed from office {which am sure is every lazy one of them}
way to go politicians and supreme court members you all earned your monies today
Wallstreetcapper and Ricky, I am not sure that you fellas understand medicare.
Ricky, Virutally everyone over 65 opts to take Medicare health insurance. Even the wealthy, because it cheaper and it pays off first, then supplemental insurance pays whats left over.
Secondly Ricky, S.S benefits will go up, unless we have another Bush crash, because it's based solely on the GDP.
Wallstreetcapper, NOT ME ? AND I AM SELFISH AND GREEDY ? I beg your pardon... But I paid into medicare for decades before I retired, just as I did S.S.
Just as you guys doubt now, I doubted back then when I was paying for old retiree's., maybe your great grand parents. I thought wow, what a waste, and there will be no SS for me, nor health care when I get old. I can recall my co-workers complaining too. But I became a believer when I turned 65.
So please, reseach before you speak. Remember older is wiser, just as you are wiser than your children.
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Wallstreetcapper and Ricky, I am not sure that you fellas understand medicare.
Ricky, Virutally everyone over 65 opts to take Medicare health insurance. Even the wealthy, because it cheaper and it pays off first, then supplemental insurance pays whats left over.
Secondly Ricky, S.S benefits will go up, unless we have another Bush crash, because it's based solely on the GDP.
Wallstreetcapper, NOT ME ? AND I AM SELFISH AND GREEDY ? I beg your pardon... But I paid into medicare for decades before I retired, just as I did S.S.
Just as you guys doubt now, I doubted back then when I was paying for old retiree's., maybe your great grand parents. I thought wow, what a waste, and there will be no SS for me, nor health care when I get old. I can recall my co-workers complaining too. But I became a believer when I turned 65.
So please, reseach before you speak. Remember older is wiser, just as you are wiser than your children.
You are still missing the point my friend. I paid what was asked of me, the max by my 7th month was paid up each year.
and you forget about the current 96.40 per month premiums, times 12 months every year...
Medicare would go broke if every payer were hospitalized every year. I was in the hospital once, for 3 days. My wife, never, she paid in also, a career woman, worked all her life. we've been married 47 years.
We have been paying premiums for over 5 years. 1,150 a year x 5700 each. x 2 =11,400. Doctor visit maybe twice a year.
So you need to count your lucky stars that you will also be included in the program, because a catastropic event can happen to you at anytime also. So don't give me any of that Holier than Thou stuff, talking about what I contributed, my friend.
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You are still missing the point my friend. I paid what was asked of me, the max by my 7th month was paid up each year.
and you forget about the current 96.40 per month premiums, times 12 months every year...
Medicare would go broke if every payer were hospitalized every year. I was in the hospital once, for 3 days. My wife, never, she paid in also, a career woman, worked all her life. we've been married 47 years.
We have been paying premiums for over 5 years. 1,150 a year x 5700 each. x 2 =11,400. Doctor visit maybe twice a year.
So you need to count your lucky stars that you will also be included in the program, because a catastropic event can happen to you at anytime also. So don't give me any of that Holier than Thou stuff, talking about what I contributed, my friend.
Who is paying for your Medicare? Do you think your paltry contributions are enough to pay your share?
What if we had the income requirements of MEDIAN when you were paying in?
What if the cut off was median income from 1965 to 2000?
The difference is that you DO have coverage, when the time comes for current workers the age to retire will be older and the coverage worse..AND we have been paying in WITHOUT a CAP...
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dj,
Who is paying for your Medicare? Do you think your paltry contributions are enough to pay your share?
What if we had the income requirements of MEDIAN when you were paying in?
What if the cut off was median income from 1965 to 2000?
The difference is that you DO have coverage, when the time comes for current workers the age to retire will be older and the coverage worse..AND we have been paying in WITHOUT a CAP...
John Roberts said paying for health insurance was like us paying a gasoline tax? Thats like comparing apples to oranges, 2 entirley differnt things.
Am wondering if the guy was smoking crack or just blinded by all the dollar bills the insurance industry sent gave him, when he was making this insane comparison.
If a person doesnt buy gasoline, he doesnt get hit with any penalty for not buying it Is that really to hard for roberts to understand, or are those dollar bills squeezing his pea brain
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John Roberts said paying for health insurance was like us paying a gasoline tax? Thats like comparing apples to oranges, 2 entirley differnt things.
Am wondering if the guy was smoking crack or just blinded by all the dollar bills the insurance industry sent gave him, when he was making this insane comparison.
If a person doesnt buy gasoline, he doesnt get hit with any penalty for not buying it Is that really to hard for roberts to understand, or are those dollar bills squeezing his pea brain
Wall and CD, all you think about is what you're paying.. That's the point. What will you be getting under the new system ? Better system ? Yes. Beginning with the emergency room service. (Please don't argue this point because Medicare is a good thing, just ask your grandmother, or she would drop it ).
The penalty for not having heath insurance will be a fine. Call it a tax if you wish. Okay, it's in the form of a tax. But, you could call a police ticket a tax if you drive without auto insurance. Why ? because it's not fair to the rest of us who drive . So add up all the tickets in the country. It comes to hundreds of billions. A Tax ? NO ! ...A Penalty.
Furthermore WallStreet, do you think your present paltry insurance contributions are enough to pay YOUR share ?
Secondly, you are paying without a cap because the system has broken down, and you go out and vote against people that want to fix it ! So don't complain to me. Figure it out.
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Wall and CD, all you think about is what you're paying.. That's the point. What will you be getting under the new system ? Better system ? Yes. Beginning with the emergency room service. (Please don't argue this point because Medicare is a good thing, just ask your grandmother, or she would drop it ).
The penalty for not having heath insurance will be a fine. Call it a tax if you wish. Okay, it's in the form of a tax. But, you could call a police ticket a tax if you drive without auto insurance. Why ? because it's not fair to the rest of us who drive . So add up all the tickets in the country. It comes to hundreds of billions. A Tax ? NO ! ...A Penalty.
Furthermore WallStreet, do you think your present paltry insurance contributions are enough to pay YOUR share ?
Secondly, you are paying without a cap because the system has broken down, and you go out and vote against people that want to fix it ! So don't complain to me. Figure it out.
By the way, CD arrives at the right conclusion with all the wrong reasoning.
For example, Supreme Court justices don't receive $ from "insurance companies" as they don't run for office. But I suppose you could believe Justice Roberts was bribed.
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By the way, CD arrives at the right conclusion with all the wrong reasoning.
For example, Supreme Court justices don't receive $ from "insurance companies" as they don't run for office. But I suppose you could believe Justice Roberts was bribed.
On the contrary Boys, this is a great deal for you and the country, the middle class. And businesses too for that matter. They can now compete with foreign countries.
Young people can stay on their parents insurance for 7 more years, until the age of 26 years . And, Insurance companies cannot rip you off by dropping you when you are really sick.
Take Medicare for example, I can guarantee that your Grand parents, and/or Parents love it. For about 98.00 per month, their hospital stay is almost fully covered for up 3 months. also with in home nursing visits for a year. Part B outpatient care and / General Dr.visits are free, in most cases, or 80% is paid, depending.
So eventually it will become Medicare for All, and that will over time reduce premiums, because the young do not need as much care, but they will be covered in the event of severe illness. I figure in a few years, it will about 72.00 a month for everyone. 18.00 a week for health care.
Hospital emergency rooms will no longer be full of poor people waiting for free care, thereby reducing hosptial costs.
So think, read, and learn before you go off in a rant.
Everyone has coverage and crappy care. Just like the DMV.
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Quote Originally Posted by don juan:
On the contrary Boys, this is a great deal for you and the country, the middle class. And businesses too for that matter. They can now compete with foreign countries.
Young people can stay on their parents insurance for 7 more years, until the age of 26 years . And, Insurance companies cannot rip you off by dropping you when you are really sick.
Take Medicare for example, I can guarantee that your Grand parents, and/or Parents love it. For about 98.00 per month, their hospital stay is almost fully covered for up 3 months. also with in home nursing visits for a year. Part B outpatient care and / General Dr.visits are free, in most cases, or 80% is paid, depending.
So eventually it will become Medicare for All, and that will over time reduce premiums, because the young do not need as much care, but they will be covered in the event of severe illness. I figure in a few years, it will about 72.00 a month for everyone. 18.00 a week for health care.
Hospital emergency rooms will no longer be full of poor people waiting for free care, thereby reducing hosptial costs.
So think, read, and learn before you go off in a rant.
Everyone has coverage and crappy care. Just like the DMV.
Wall and CD, all you think about is what you're paying.. That's the point. What will you be getting under the new system ? Better system ? Yes. Beginning with the emergency room service. (Please don't argue this point because Medicare is a good thing, just ask your grandmother, or she would drop it ).
The penalty for not having heath insurance will be a fine. Call it a tax if you wish. Okay, it's in the form of a tax. But, you could call a police ticket a tax if you drive without auto insurance. Why ? because it's not fair to the rest of us who drive . So add up all the tickets in the country. It comes to hundreds of billions. A Tax ? NO ! ...A Penalty.
Furthermore WallStreet, do you think your present paltry insurance contributions are enough to pay YOUR share ?
Secondly, you are paying without a cap because the system has broken down, and you go out and vote against people that want to fix it ! So don't complain to me. Figure it out.
First answer..of course not, I do not share your view that I am entitled to a government program, especially OVER the extent that I contributed. What program exists that you can pay in a low figure and take out a high benefit and it be a government program?
Second..the reason why the program is broken is your group has broken it. The government did not properly forecast cost increases, life expectancy expansion and the large number of takers from the system..how could it not be broken when you have people contributing at low rates and taking at high rates.
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Quote Originally Posted by don juan:
Wall and CD, all you think about is what you're paying.. That's the point. What will you be getting under the new system ? Better system ? Yes. Beginning with the emergency room service. (Please don't argue this point because Medicare is a good thing, just ask your grandmother, or she would drop it ).
The penalty for not having heath insurance will be a fine. Call it a tax if you wish. Okay, it's in the form of a tax. But, you could call a police ticket a tax if you drive without auto insurance. Why ? because it's not fair to the rest of us who drive . So add up all the tickets in the country. It comes to hundreds of billions. A Tax ? NO ! ...A Penalty.
Furthermore WallStreet, do you think your present paltry insurance contributions are enough to pay YOUR share ?
Secondly, you are paying without a cap because the system has broken down, and you go out and vote against people that want to fix it ! So don't complain to me. Figure it out.
First answer..of course not, I do not share your view that I am entitled to a government program, especially OVER the extent that I contributed. What program exists that you can pay in a low figure and take out a high benefit and it be a government program?
Second..the reason why the program is broken is your group has broken it. The government did not properly forecast cost increases, life expectancy expansion and the large number of takers from the system..how could it not be broken when you have people contributing at low rates and taking at high rates.
First answer..of course not, I do not share your view that I am entitled to a government program, especially OVER the extent that I contributed. What program exists that you can pay in a low figure and take out a high benefit and it be a government program?
Second..the reason why the program is broken is your group has broken it. The government did not properly forecast cost increases, life expectancy expansion and the large number of takers from the system..how could it not be broken when you have people contributing at low rates and taking at high rates.
I'll go back and forth with you until it sinks your mind, maybe a light will go on !
Reply on #1....Heck no, I don't feel I am entitled to anything. I paid in the max, that was the retirement program at that time, plus savings. I am thankful that the program worked.. My father died at 59 years old, my mother at 62. He paid in for life, she about half her life.They didn't collect a cent.
2. The democrats tried to fix the system many times. Just as they are now. But the party of NO stops them on everything. Obama tried and tried to compromise, they would not. They took a chance and they lost the S.Court decision.
Keep this in mind, the wealthy paid a higher tax rate back then. .. The Bush tax cuts for the wealthy was the reason it failed.
Republicans fought Medicare tooth and nail in the 50s and early 60s. But, they would rather walk by a senior citizen laying in the street, and think to themself, " You should have saved your money for a emergency Pal !"
That's why I would never vote for a repulsican. So, if you earn less than 270,000 per year you are voting against your own interests.
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
First answer..of course not, I do not share your view that I am entitled to a government program, especially OVER the extent that I contributed. What program exists that you can pay in a low figure and take out a high benefit and it be a government program?
Second..the reason why the program is broken is your group has broken it. The government did not properly forecast cost increases, life expectancy expansion and the large number of takers from the system..how could it not be broken when you have people contributing at low rates and taking at high rates.
I'll go back and forth with you until it sinks your mind, maybe a light will go on !
Reply on #1....Heck no, I don't feel I am entitled to anything. I paid in the max, that was the retirement program at that time, plus savings. I am thankful that the program worked.. My father died at 59 years old, my mother at 62. He paid in for life, she about half her life.They didn't collect a cent.
2. The democrats tried to fix the system many times. Just as they are now. But the party of NO stops them on everything. Obama tried and tried to compromise, they would not. They took a chance and they lost the S.Court decision.
Keep this in mind, the wealthy paid a higher tax rate back then. .. The Bush tax cuts for the wealthy was the reason it failed.
Republicans fought Medicare tooth and nail in the 50s and early 60s. But, they would rather walk by a senior citizen laying in the street, and think to themself, " You should have saved your money for a emergency Pal !"
That's why I would never vote for a repulsican. So, if you earn less than 270,000 per year you are voting against your own interests.
I know being a youngster with not to much law experiences is the reason you dont understand certain things.
Really supreme court justices dont run for office? lmfaoooooooooo
I hate to burst your bubble, bubble boy but if you think that a supreme court justice cant be bought, especially by a corrput industry that has as much money as God, then you are living in a fantasy world. They are human beings and with any human beings on this planet, they can be bought off for their vote.
For a guy that goes around this board trying to act so smart, you really are one dumb vile person.
Thanks again for that tip about supreme court judges not running for office, cause i would have kept sitting around waiting for an election to take place, friggin goofball
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DaRoad,
I know being a youngster with not to much law experiences is the reason you dont understand certain things.
Really supreme court justices dont run for office? lmfaoooooooooo
I hate to burst your bubble, bubble boy but if you think that a supreme court justice cant be bought, especially by a corrput industry that has as much money as God, then you are living in a fantasy world. They are human beings and with any human beings on this planet, they can be bought off for their vote.
For a guy that goes around this board trying to act so smart, you really are one dumb vile person.
Thanks again for that tip about supreme court judges not running for office, cause i would have kept sitting around waiting for an election to take place, friggin goofball
also you are truly not seeing the big picture. Once a door is opened like this, my walmart joke thing or anything like that could then be used by the scumbag politicians, because they know they can now get away with making people buy even more things they want them to buy.
also when corporations start dropping health plans for employees and just paying the fine to send them over to some garbage govt plan, how is that a win for the little guy? Its a huge win for the corporations once again.
Sorry DJ, but you need to take the blinders off on this one and try seeing the forest thru the trees.
If the politicians put a real effort into this shit, they could have developed a way to insure the lets say 40 million people without screwing over the other 260 million people in the country.
maybe if they worked on getting all the jobs back in our country, there wouldnt be so many people who didnt have health insurance.
People didnt win here, insurance industry and corporations are the big winners.
Just remember this decision when the govt sends you a list of things you need to buy each year, because they feel you need to have them. The door is wide open now
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Don Juan,
also you are truly not seeing the big picture. Once a door is opened like this, my walmart joke thing or anything like that could then be used by the scumbag politicians, because they know they can now get away with making people buy even more things they want them to buy.
also when corporations start dropping health plans for employees and just paying the fine to send them over to some garbage govt plan, how is that a win for the little guy? Its a huge win for the corporations once again.
Sorry DJ, but you need to take the blinders off on this one and try seeing the forest thru the trees.
If the politicians put a real effort into this shit, they could have developed a way to insure the lets say 40 million people without screwing over the other 260 million people in the country.
maybe if they worked on getting all the jobs back in our country, there wouldnt be so many people who didnt have health insurance.
People didnt win here, insurance industry and corporations are the big winners.
Just remember this decision when the govt sends you a list of things you need to buy each year, because they feel you need to have them. The door is wide open now
also when corporations start dropping health plans for employees and
just paying the fine to send them over to some garbage govt plan, how is
that a win for the little guy? Its a huge win for the corporations
once again.
my brother works for ATT, pretty high up, he said that it makes absolutely no sense now for them to pay any insurance and just pay the fines
plus there will be no raises to offset what a private comparable policy would cost
not to mention this is a very bad precedent
all so the underachievers can get less of a refund
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also when corporations start dropping health plans for employees and
just paying the fine to send them over to some garbage govt plan, how is
that a win for the little guy? Its a huge win for the corporations
once again.
my brother works for ATT, pretty high up, he said that it makes absolutely no sense now for them to pay any insurance and just pay the fines
plus there will be no raises to offset what a private comparable policy would cost
not to mention this is a very bad precedent
all so the underachievers can get less of a refund
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cd329. Outstanding posts. Even Slim and the conservative bunches can't argue against you here. 
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