i'm too busy following line movements on gameday, such as sides, totals, 1st halves, 2nd halves, etc, my priority is not posting for a bunch of degenerates, my priority is making money for myself
anyone who comes into a forum and acts like the attention person that 'me greatness me' is, has some serious psychological and self-esteem issues, and will surely crash and burn. i guarantee it.
just keep tracking his plays, he's going to learn some tough lessons in cfb capping this yr, namely that the better you think you are, the worst you actually are and the betting game will humble you very quickly
you'll see that i'm right about this, it might take a handful of weeks to prove it but it will happen, just watch
so you're too busy to post plays for anybody cuz you're too worried about making money for yourself.......wtf? atleast mgm is giving us info about the games with writeups and suggestions while you dont do a damn thing but talk shit. what do you want to accomplish here? the reason for this forum is to help eachother out so we can all win....you're just being an arrogant prick
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Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:
i'm too busy following line movements on gameday, such as sides, totals, 1st halves, 2nd halves, etc, my priority is not posting for a bunch of degenerates, my priority is making money for myself
anyone who comes into a forum and acts like the attention person that 'me greatness me' is, has some serious psychological and self-esteem issues, and will surely crash and burn. i guarantee it.
just keep tracking his plays, he's going to learn some tough lessons in cfb capping this yr, namely that the better you think you are, the worst you actually are and the betting game will humble you very quickly
you'll see that i'm right about this, it might take a handful of weeks to prove it but it will happen, just watch
so you're too busy to post plays for anybody cuz you're too worried about making money for yourself.......wtf? atleast mgm is giving us info about the games with writeups and suggestions while you dont do a damn thing but talk shit. what do you want to accomplish here? the reason for this forum is to help eachother out so we can all win....you're just being an arrogant prick
as for me, i specialize in 2nd half sides and totals, thats where the real money is, and if you think i'm gonna post those while i'm sitting in a las vegas sportsbook watching games and looking for value, you must not understand the laws of making money for yourself first, everything else second
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as for me, i specialize in 2nd half sides and totals, thats where the real money is, and if you think i'm gonna post those while i'm sitting in a las vegas sportsbook watching games and looking for value, you must not understand the laws of making money for yourself first, everything else second
so why is it ok for you to throw down the gauntlet and insist that if he doesn't post 16 picks a week he's a fraud... but you don't have to because you do 2nd halfs and totals and can't be posting picks from a sportsbook? something of a double standard if you ask me...
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so why is it ok for you to throw down the gauntlet and insist that if he doesn't post 16 picks a week he's a fraud... but you don't have to because you do 2nd halfs and totals and can't be posting picks from a sportsbook? something of a double standard if you ask me...
so why is it ok for you to throw down the gauntlet and insist that if he doesn't post 16 picks a week he's a fraud... but you don't have to because you do 2nd halfs and totals and can't be posting picks from a sportsbook? something of a double standard if you ask me...
i wasnt the one coming in here claiming to be so good, he was. since i work so hard to be good at sportsbetting and i know the sacrifice it takes, i took it personally so i called him out. i didn't say he's a fraud if he doesnt post 16 picks a week, i said he was a fraud, period. he picked 15 games or so in week 1, had a great record of 12-2, then only picked 2 games in week 2 even though there were tons of soft lines. he wanted to protect his record. then he comes back in week 3 and gets pissed off because someone said he does not post enough games, and then he picks like 38 games, or so he said. thats hilarious. from 15 to 2 to 38.
yeah, he's not trying to protect his record in week 2 then say "fukk you" to everyone in week 3. come on, this is obvious. he knows deep down inside that he's not that good at cfb capping, never has been and likely never will be, so he went 13-3 or whatever it was and now wants to disappear. if he's a real man and a real capper he'll prove me wrong.
and as far as the personal wager, i'm done betting with bums who don't pay because they're broke. prove me wrong in here if you're a real man meFRAUDULANTme
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Quote Originally Posted by shepherd:
so why is it ok for you to throw down the gauntlet and insist that if he doesn't post 16 picks a week he's a fraud... but you don't have to because you do 2nd halfs and totals and can't be posting picks from a sportsbook? something of a double standard if you ask me...
i wasnt the one coming in here claiming to be so good, he was. since i work so hard to be good at sportsbetting and i know the sacrifice it takes, i took it personally so i called him out. i didn't say he's a fraud if he doesnt post 16 picks a week, i said he was a fraud, period. he picked 15 games or so in week 1, had a great record of 12-2, then only picked 2 games in week 2 even though there were tons of soft lines. he wanted to protect his record. then he comes back in week 3 and gets pissed off because someone said he does not post enough games, and then he picks like 38 games, or so he said. thats hilarious. from 15 to 2 to 38.
yeah, he's not trying to protect his record in week 2 then say "fukk you" to everyone in week 3. come on, this is obvious. he knows deep down inside that he's not that good at cfb capping, never has been and likely never will be, so he went 13-3 or whatever it was and now wants to disappear. if he's a real man and a real capper he'll prove me wrong.
and as far as the personal wager, i'm done betting with bums who don't pay because they're broke. prove me wrong in here if you're a real man meFRAUDULANTme
Gridiron - well then share with us the "Do's and Dont's" of second half betting ....please
basic principles for 2nd half wagering, if theres tons of scoring in first half, consider 2nd half under, if little scoring 1st half, consider 2nd half over. dont expect game trends to continue for both halves. be aware of which coaches like to run it up and cover spreads. be aware of which teams have big games the following week and will likely rest guys. know who has a sr qb who will be graduating, those teams will put in the back up more in the 2nd half, it will affect the side and the total. know the first down and yardage stats from the first half, pay attention to special teams, teams w/bad kickers will go for more tds, teams w/good kickers will take more long fgs and if they miss they give up good field position, pay attention to key injuries in the first half, i can go on and on, there is tons of value in 2nd half wagers, you just have to watch as many games as possible in the 1st half and take a look at the box scores too, you can do it but it takes time and patience and a quick trigger, lol
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Quote Originally Posted by JRoberts5483:
USMC - "Smile BEHIND your cards".....classic!
Gridiron - well then share with us the "Do's and Dont's" of second half betting ....please
basic principles for 2nd half wagering, if theres tons of scoring in first half, consider 2nd half under, if little scoring 1st half, consider 2nd half over. dont expect game trends to continue for both halves. be aware of which coaches like to run it up and cover spreads. be aware of which teams have big games the following week and will likely rest guys. know who has a sr qb who will be graduating, those teams will put in the back up more in the 2nd half, it will affect the side and the total. know the first down and yardage stats from the first half, pay attention to special teams, teams w/bad kickers will go for more tds, teams w/good kickers will take more long fgs and if they miss they give up good field position, pay attention to key injuries in the first half, i can go on and on, there is tons of value in 2nd half wagers, you just have to watch as many games as possible in the 1st half and take a look at the box scores too, you can do it but it takes time and patience and a quick trigger, lol
anytime bud. another thing, also pay attention to weather. sometimes theres rain and a wet field in the first half so the score is low, the rain goes away towards the end of the first half, the total comes out low in the 2nd half but you know its a dry field so it will likely go over. same thing applies with a dry field in first half, then some rain comes in and the announcer says 'we have some showers expected during the second half', so you jump online and check the weather in that area, and sure enough it says steady rain for the next few hours, so you look at the under perhaps, so many things to pay attention to, its really fun but hectic too, you can definitely do it, remember, these 2nd half numbers are a little softer than full game lines because the books have literallly minutes to come up with them,
good luck everyone, if you ever have any questions, just post them here or start a new thread, i'll try and answer as many as i can to help you out, peace out
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Quote Originally Posted by JRoberts5483:
thanks gridiron
anytime bud. another thing, also pay attention to weather. sometimes theres rain and a wet field in the first half so the score is low, the rain goes away towards the end of the first half, the total comes out low in the 2nd half but you know its a dry field so it will likely go over. same thing applies with a dry field in first half, then some rain comes in and the announcer says 'we have some showers expected during the second half', so you jump online and check the weather in that area, and sure enough it says steady rain for the next few hours, so you look at the under perhaps, so many things to pay attention to, its really fun but hectic too, you can definitely do it, remember, these 2nd half numbers are a little softer than full game lines because the books have literallly minutes to come up with them,
good luck everyone, if you ever have any questions, just post them here or start a new thread, i'll try and answer as many as i can to help you out, peace out
yeah 2nd halfs are where its at, i have made a killing especially in nba 2nd halfs. you can get great value ex. a team is a 10 point fav before the game, have a bad 1st half down 15 at the half so you can get them as a "dog" on the game(prob -9 or -10 2nd half) when more often than not the original line ends up being close to correct.
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yeah 2nd halfs are where its at, i have made a killing especially in nba 2nd halfs. you can get great value ex. a team is a 10 point fav before the game, have a bad 1st half down 15 at the half so you can get them as a "dog" on the game(prob -9 or -10 2nd half) when more often than not the original line ends up being close to correct.
yeah 2nd halfs are where its at, i have made a killing especially in nba 2nd halfs. you can get great value ex. a team is a 10 point fav before the game, have a bad 1st half down 15 at the half so you can get them as a "dog" on the game(prob -9 or -10 2nd half) when more often than not the original line ends up being close to correct.
thats a great angle to use, the big favorite down at halftime and you know theyre gonna be fired up in the 2nd half and outplay how they did in the first, by the way dude, great pic of roy superman williams forcing the fumble on chrissy sims
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Quote Originally Posted by TheBigBanger:
yeah 2nd halfs are where its at, i have made a killing especially in nba 2nd halfs. you can get great value ex. a team is a 10 point fav before the game, have a bad 1st half down 15 at the half so you can get them as a "dog" on the game(prob -9 or -10 2nd half) when more often than not the original line ends up being close to correct.
thats a great angle to use, the big favorite down at halftime and you know theyre gonna be fired up in the 2nd half and outplay how they did in the first, by the way dude, great pic of roy superman williams forcing the fumble on chrissy sims
haha preciate it, you are the first to comment on the pic but yeah that was so badass. back on subject, especially with nba i have found the linemakers are ussually pretty close to spot on, you can find great value at halftime, i always get the nba league pass so i can watch every game and at halftime i see which games fall into this category and play the ones i agree with. has worked great for me
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haha preciate it, you are the first to comment on the pic but yeah that was so badass. back on subject, especially with nba i have found the linemakers are ussually pretty close to spot on, you can find great value at halftime, i always get the nba league pass so i can watch every game and at halftime i see which games fall into this category and play the ones i agree with. has worked great for me
i guess i don't fully understand why anyone would want to prove they are the best handicapper on a website... or contest who is the best or whatever... i only mean that in a sense of not seeing the benefit of it... but that's me...
and yea, 2nd half bets can be easy money... another good angle has to do with the fact that before a sportsbook even puts up a halftime line, they have already taken a bunch of money on the 2nd half outcome (i.e., game bets)... so when they put up a line they aren't necessarily putting up a line that is most accurate... they are usually putting up a line that minimizes the possibility of getting burned on a possible middle from all of the people betting the other side to hedge their game bets... so if you can spot those discrepancies you can get an edge...
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i guess i don't fully understand why anyone would want to prove they are the best handicapper on a website... or contest who is the best or whatever... i only mean that in a sense of not seeing the benefit of it... but that's me...
and yea, 2nd half bets can be easy money... another good angle has to do with the fact that before a sportsbook even puts up a halftime line, they have already taken a bunch of money on the 2nd half outcome (i.e., game bets)... so when they put up a line they aren't necessarily putting up a line that is most accurate... they are usually putting up a line that minimizes the possibility of getting burned on a possible middle from all of the people betting the other side to hedge their game bets... so if you can spot those discrepancies you can get an edge...
Like I said ray charles can see that I am special. These were no flukes. The only flukes are when I lose a game. There is a scene in good will hunting when matt damon tells the professor to fuck off and he isn't going to explain the answers to him and he is sick of watching the guy fumble around trying to figure it out. That is how I feel like talking football with haters like yourself. I said I would continue to post a play or two because a lot of people were cool and I don't want to be a dick and say I am leaving and not giving any picks not because I am worried about my covers posting percentage. Maybe week 3 I will post a play for every game on the board if it will make u happy.
1. if you think that you never get lucky then you're out of your mind, it means you have not been betting sports long enough to no how you get UNlucky AND lucky in the long run.
Arizona -24 covered by 1 pt, it was a gift. Texas -26.5 covered by 2.5 pts, another gift. Those could have easily gone against you.
2. The reason why you only posted 2 plays in Week 2 is because you know you got lucky in your 12-3 start in Week 1, and you want to protect your record.
3. Keep picking 38 games and you will get CRUSHED, i guarantee it.
look dude, in all seriousness, you do have knowledge of many teams in division 1-A, but A LOT OF PPL do! we can read phil steele also and rattle off returning starters, statistics, recruiting, etc. these days, EVERYONE HAS INFO
ive been a diehard college football fan for longer than most of the ppl on this board have even been alive, i'm talking way way way back when i started to love this sport and bet it.
no matter how good a person thinks he is at this cfb betting game, just keep doing it week after week and you will get humbled more times than you think, trust me on this
a little humility would go a long way for you, but like i said, if you keep posting like you did this week with 38 games, your 81% will plummet like a body the mafia just threw in the ocean
by the same token, if you post 2 plays a week after starting 12-3, you are clearly protecting your record because you understand the simple math concept of REGRESSION to THE NORM
Gridiron, look at waht you said above...that those games couldve gone either way....fucking 50-60 percent of games are like that....thats why its gambling and thats why the oddsmakers are so good at what they do....
Im sure there has been plenty of times you won/lost on the last drive, shot, strikeout whatever sport it is youre betting...
Just because hes squeezed two games out doesn't mean he doesn't know his sides...if he would've played toledo and UTEP he would've lost but he didn't....either way you had to sweat the game out...
You're making a complete ass of yourself in this thread....oddsmakers set the line to as close as they can be and they are DAMN GOOD AT IT.....so just because he squeeks two out that could've went the other way that doesnt mean he picked the wrong side almost?!?!
Like I said ray charles can see that I am special. These were no flukes. The only flukes are when I lose a game. There is a scene in good will hunting when matt damon tells the professor to fuck off and he isn't going to explain the answers to him and he is sick of watching the guy fumble around trying to figure it out. That is how I feel like talking football with haters like yourself. I said I would continue to post a play or two because a lot of people were cool and I don't want to be a dick and say I am leaving and not giving any picks not because I am worried about my covers posting percentage. Maybe week 3 I will post a play for every game on the board if it will make u happy.
1. if you think that you never get lucky then you're out of your mind, it means you have not been betting sports long enough to no how you get UNlucky AND lucky in the long run.
Arizona -24 covered by 1 pt, it was a gift. Texas -26.5 covered by 2.5 pts, another gift. Those could have easily gone against you.
2. The reason why you only posted 2 plays in Week 2 is because you know you got lucky in your 12-3 start in Week 1, and you want to protect your record.
3. Keep picking 38 games and you will get CRUSHED, i guarantee it.
look dude, in all seriousness, you do have knowledge of many teams in division 1-A, but A LOT OF PPL do! we can read phil steele also and rattle off returning starters, statistics, recruiting, etc. these days, EVERYONE HAS INFO
ive been a diehard college football fan for longer than most of the ppl on this board have even been alive, i'm talking way way way back when i started to love this sport and bet it.
no matter how good a person thinks he is at this cfb betting game, just keep doing it week after week and you will get humbled more times than you think, trust me on this
a little humility would go a long way for you, but like i said, if you keep posting like you did this week with 38 games, your 81% will plummet like a body the mafia just threw in the ocean
by the same token, if you post 2 plays a week after starting 12-3, you are clearly protecting your record because you understand the simple math concept of REGRESSION to THE NORM
Gridiron, look at waht you said above...that those games couldve gone either way....fucking 50-60 percent of games are like that....thats why its gambling and thats why the oddsmakers are so good at what they do....
Im sure there has been plenty of times you won/lost on the last drive, shot, strikeout whatever sport it is youre betting...
Just because hes squeezed two games out doesn't mean he doesn't know his sides...if he would've played toledo and UTEP he would've lost but he didn't....either way you had to sweat the game out...
You're making a complete ass of yourself in this thread....oddsmakers set the line to as close as they can be and they are DAMN GOOD AT IT.....so just because he squeeks two out that could've went the other way that doesnt mean he picked the wrong side almost?!?!
And also youre right that MGM came in here with a cocky attitude and shit but thats fine....as least he is contributing winners to the forum....
This place is for all of us to get together and discuss our picks and why we like them...helping each other outt
And of course people are gonna argue this and that and people are gonna agree but that is the WHOLE POINT to this forum to meet new people and try and figure out the right side and make some $$$$...
He might be new also but he has contributed...hes given his thoughts on ??'s that people ask him and hes given his picks and reasons why he likes them
Just cuz he said its a fluke when he loses a game...hes being cocky...let him be thats fine as long as hes contributing to the forum i have no problem with that
I dont get my panties in a bunch cuz some guy MGM from wherever the fuck he lives is acting cocky...hes giving his thoughts and has been pretty damn good at it so far...
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And also youre right that MGM came in here with a cocky attitude and shit but thats fine....as least he is contributing winners to the forum....
This place is for all of us to get together and discuss our picks and why we like them...helping each other outt
And of course people are gonna argue this and that and people are gonna agree but that is the WHOLE POINT to this forum to meet new people and try and figure out the right side and make some $$$$...
He might be new also but he has contributed...hes given his thoughts on ??'s that people ask him and hes given his picks and reasons why he likes them
Just cuz he said its a fluke when he loses a game...hes being cocky...let him be thats fine as long as hes contributing to the forum i have no problem with that
I dont get my panties in a bunch cuz some guy MGM from wherever the fuck he lives is acting cocky...hes giving his thoughts and has been pretty damn good at it so far...
Gridiron, look at waht you said above...that those games couldve gone either way....fucking 50-60 percent of games are like that....thats why its gambling and thats why the oddsmakers are so good at what they do....
Im sure there has been plenty of times you won/lost on the last drive, shot, strikeout whatever sport it is youre betting...
Just because hes squeezed two games out doesn't mean he doesn't know his sides...if he would've played toledo and UTEP he would've lost but he didn't....either way you had to sweat the game out...
You're making a complete ass of yourself in this thread....oddsmakers set the line to as close as they can be and they are DAMN GOOD AT IT.....so just because he squeeks two out that could've went the other way that doesnt mean he picked the wrong side almost?!?!
most games land a td or more away from the spread, which is why they offer you 6 pt teasers. if you want to know the exact percentage, its something like 84% of the time, the final score lands 7 pts or more off the opening and closing number.
so, my point was that sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you get UNlucky.
this fool meFRAUDULENTme thinks that he only gets UNlucky which is why he loses. he fails to realize that he gets lucky too which he did in those 2 games.
bad luck and good luck always happens in the long run, but his fraud does not know that because he's a newbie small time bettor.
and he has his chance to prove me wrong with winners but he has disappeared because he knows that i exposed him
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Quote Originally Posted by Kev3434:
Gridiron, look at waht you said above...that those games couldve gone either way....fucking 50-60 percent of games are like that....thats why its gambling and thats why the oddsmakers are so good at what they do....
Im sure there has been plenty of times you won/lost on the last drive, shot, strikeout whatever sport it is youre betting...
Just because hes squeezed two games out doesn't mean he doesn't know his sides...if he would've played toledo and UTEP he would've lost but he didn't....either way you had to sweat the game out...
You're making a complete ass of yourself in this thread....oddsmakers set the line to as close as they can be and they are DAMN GOOD AT IT.....so just because he squeeks two out that could've went the other way that doesnt mean he picked the wrong side almost?!?!
most games land a td or more away from the spread, which is why they offer you 6 pt teasers. if you want to know the exact percentage, its something like 84% of the time, the final score lands 7 pts or more off the opening and closing number.
so, my point was that sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you get UNlucky.
this fool meFRAUDULENTme thinks that he only gets UNlucky which is why he loses. he fails to realize that he gets lucky too which he did in those 2 games.
bad luck and good luck always happens in the long run, but his fraud does not know that because he's a newbie small time bettor.
and he has his chance to prove me wrong with winners but he has disappeared because he knows that i exposed him
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