First of all he didnt get charged for any of that. He got charged for funding a dog fighting operation. And he would have got probation except everyone said he did it all and went across state lines for the purpose of gambling. You really think he went out at night and would steal dogs? Cmon. And im not saying its right, Im saying this has been going on for hundreds of years in the south. It was still legal in some states until recently. Dont let something that fuks with your moral views confuse your judgment on the punishment. The greyhound race kills 30,000 dogs a year when they cant run fast anymore.Does that mess with your moral views. And thats legal bielieve it or not. Horses are the same. I mean lets get a grip here people there dogs not humans!!!!!
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First of all he didnt get charged for any of that. He got charged for funding a dog fighting operation. And he would have got probation except everyone said he did it all and went across state lines for the purpose of gambling. You really think he went out at night and would steal dogs? Cmon. And im not saying its right, Im saying this has been going on for hundreds of years in the south. It was still legal in some states until recently. Dont let something that fuks with your moral views confuse your judgment on the punishment. The greyhound race kills 30,000 dogs a year when they cant run fast anymore.Does that mess with your moral views. And thats legal bielieve it or not. Horses are the same. I mean lets get a grip here people there dogs not humans!!!!!
In the golf thread people are trashing Tiger for banging his club on the ground in frustration during the British Open. He is labeled a poor role model to kids and others, yada,yada...
In this thread people are willing to forgive and forget a dog-killer.
Funny world....
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In the golf thread people are trashing Tiger for banging his club on the ground in frustration during the British Open. He is labeled a poor role model to kids and others, yada,yada...
In this thread people are willing to forgive and forget a dog-killer.
Is seems people hate greatness. He was one of the best athletes who ever played in the NFL who alot people didnt like already. This just gave a reason to. And a fair reason to. But this, "I wished he would do life in jail", is just unfair hatred. Some is racism, some is just hatred.
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Is seems people hate greatness. He was one of the best athletes who ever played in the NFL who alot people didnt like already. This just gave a reason to. And a fair reason to. But this, "I wished he would do life in jail", is just unfair hatred. Some is racism, some is just hatred.
Yes we hate him because hes great.Are you a retard?
The racists are the people who like to forgive a black guy no matter what he does wrong and then label anyone who criticizes that person a racist.
Read the indictment , its online. He killed dogs, Him and his thug friends stole peoples dogs and used them as bait dogs.
You bring up dog racing, also a disgusting despicable operation.
He went to jail for 2 years, I am not saying throw him back in jail (although if they did I wouldnnt give a f*ck) I am saying keep this piece of shit out of the NFL Let him go flip burgers
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Yes we hate him because hes great.Are you a retard?
The racists are the people who like to forgive a black guy no matter what he does wrong and then label anyone who criticizes that person a racist.
Read the indictment , its online. He killed dogs, Him and his thug friends stole peoples dogs and used them as bait dogs.
You bring up dog racing, also a disgusting despicable operation.
He went to jail for 2 years, I am not saying throw him back in jail (although if they did I wouldnnt give a f*ck) I am saying keep this piece of shit out of the NFL Let him go flip burgers
First of all I didnt say anything about. I was talking the conversations Ive had in other conversations. And stop turning into a "Drama Queen" "so Im a racist cause I dont forgive all black people no matter what they do" ? That6s not even close to what I said or what I ment. That statement makes you look like a retard. The reason I brought up dog racing is that I think its just as bad and in my mine just as disgusting and its legal. But I also think that lossing 250 million and spending 2 years in prison is way enough punishment for a man who did not harm another human, didnt sell drugs, and didnt take any money from anyone. And for the record he was accused of thieving not charged with it. Big differnce.
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First of all I didnt say anything about. I was talking the conversations Ive had in other conversations. And stop turning into a "Drama Queen" "so Im a racist cause I dont forgive all black people no matter what they do" ? That6s not even close to what I said or what I ment. That statement makes you look like a retard. The reason I brought up dog racing is that I think its just as bad and in my mine just as disgusting and its legal. But I also think that lossing 250 million and spending 2 years in prison is way enough punishment for a man who did not harm another human, didnt sell drugs, and didnt take any money from anyone. And for the record he was accused of thieving not charged with it. Big differnce.
I agreed with you that dog racing is disgusting, they mistreat the shit out of those dogs. That should be illegal also.
Im against hunting and fishing also but thats a whole other debate.
If I ran a league I would not allow him back in. Name me another job where you check felony on the application and then in the please explain line you could put "ran dog fighting ring, killed dogs" and they hire you.
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who cares about typos
I agreed with you that dog racing is disgusting, they mistreat the shit out of those dogs. That should be illegal also.
Im against hunting and fishing also but thats a whole other debate.
If I ran a league I would not allow him back in. Name me another job where you check felony on the application and then in the please explain line you could put "ran dog fighting ring, killed dogs" and they hire you.
We agree on all issuses .I hate all the things you do. I guess its just the penalty. If im in construction and this happens, I bet money I can get a job back in that field if I was a good worker who knew a couple people. Thats his craft. He deserves after paying a harsh penalty to get back into his field and be a constructive part of society. Instead of getting out and being worse then when he went in. I mean how many people go into prison and when they get out there are hardly any oppertunities for them and they become repeat affenders. Maybe football and being a voice against it can be a stepping stone to being a better man. I mean the guys been involved in it in some form or another since he was like 8!!! Doesnt that scare you a little? Whats oing on in some ghettos in this country. Maybe his voice could be heard in places where kids wont listen to the next guy. thats what doing good is. Thats what paying your debt to society means. You get another chance after. What he does with it is up to him
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We agree on all issuses .I hate all the things you do. I guess its just the penalty. If im in construction and this happens, I bet money I can get a job back in that field if I was a good worker who knew a couple people. Thats his craft. He deserves after paying a harsh penalty to get back into his field and be a constructive part of society. Instead of getting out and being worse then when he went in. I mean how many people go into prison and when they get out there are hardly any oppertunities for them and they become repeat affenders. Maybe football and being a voice against it can be a stepping stone to being a better man. I mean the guys been involved in it in some form or another since he was like 8!!! Doesnt that scare you a little? Whats oing on in some ghettos in this country. Maybe his voice could be heard in places where kids wont listen to the next guy. thats what doing good is. Thats what paying your debt to society means. You get another chance after. What he does with it is up to him
If Vick is the person you are looking to as a role model for people in the ghetto then I feel bad for people in the ghetto....actually I dont
In case you didnt notice, and even though he is an incompetent f'n moron, the president is sort of a black guy. wouldnt that be a better role model than this scumbag?
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If Vick is the person you are looking to as a role model for people in the ghetto then I feel bad for people in the ghetto....actually I dont
In case you didnt notice, and even though he is an incompetent f'n moron, the president is sort of a black guy. wouldnt that be a better role model than this scumbag?
Im not talkin about that kind of role model. Im talkin about explaining to these other 8 year olds that grow up in dog fightin that dont understand how wrong it is. You know it sounds crazy but kids really dont understand how wrong it is, and grow up in dog fightin world. Dont misunderstand me, Im not saying shit about lookin up to vick. Learn from his mistakes and if he can get a couple kids out of this dog fight bs, hten we are all better for it.
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Im not talkin about that kind of role model. Im talkin about explaining to these other 8 year olds that grow up in dog fightin that dont understand how wrong it is. You know it sounds crazy but kids really dont understand how wrong it is, and grow up in dog fightin world. Dont misunderstand me, Im not saying shit about lookin up to vick. Learn from his mistakes and if he can get a couple kids out of this dog fight bs, hten we are all better for it.
I agreed with you that dog racing is disgusting, they mistreat the shit out of those dogs. That should be illegal also.
Im against hunting and fishing also but thats a whole other debate.
If I ran a league I would not allow him back in. Name me another job where you check felony on the application and then in the please explain line you could put"ran dog fighting ring, killed dogs" and they hire you.
I'm just thinking about what you typed, because I don't think you did very much of that.
If you're talking about a job like bagging groceries, working at retail stores, or fast food chains, than yes, I can see how you wouldn't hire someone because of that felony. I mean, anyone out there can be taught with a little time to perfect those position right?
But how about in sports? whether NFL, MLB, MLS, or NBA the answer is No way. Vick is the best running QB out in the WORLD right now. No one can replace him, that's a fact if you like to admit it or not.. The time frame for being an athlete is very small compared to the life-line of a human-being. To steal something like that from someone who is truly remorseful and changed, would be worse than what Vick did to the dogs.
How about Art or literature? Would you not hire/sell their GREAT works because of a mistake in their life. If they proved to be enlightened from their ways and truly sorry? How could you justify not giving them another chance?
Not just anyone can replace Michelangelo in art or Shakespeare in literature, nor can just anyone replace Mike Vick in the NFL.
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Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:
who cares about typos
I agreed with you that dog racing is disgusting, they mistreat the shit out of those dogs. That should be illegal also.
Im against hunting and fishing also but thats a whole other debate.
If I ran a league I would not allow him back in. Name me another job where you check felony on the application and then in the please explain line you could put"ran dog fighting ring, killed dogs" and they hire you.
I'm just thinking about what you typed, because I don't think you did very much of that.
If you're talking about a job like bagging groceries, working at retail stores, or fast food chains, than yes, I can see how you wouldn't hire someone because of that felony. I mean, anyone out there can be taught with a little time to perfect those position right?
But how about in sports? whether NFL, MLB, MLS, or NBA the answer is No way. Vick is the best running QB out in the WORLD right now. No one can replace him, that's a fact if you like to admit it or not.. The time frame for being an athlete is very small compared to the life-line of a human-being. To steal something like that from someone who is truly remorseful and changed, would be worse than what Vick did to the dogs.
How about Art or literature? Would you not hire/sell their GREAT works because of a mistake in their life. If they proved to be enlightened from their ways and truly sorry? How could you justify not giving them another chance?
Not just anyone can replace Michelangelo in art or Shakespeare in literature, nor can just anyone replace Mike Vick in the NFL.
Fast guys with shitty arms come out of college every year. Lots of people can replace him
Matt Ryan paints a different type of art than Mike Vick.
Matt Ryan didn't do anything special yet, besides being an above-average rookie.
I agree with the first half of your second statement, you unknowingly just proved my point. Mike Vick is super-fast with a decent arm, very hard to find as you've just told us.
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Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:
Matt Ryan replaced him ...looked fine to me
Fast guys with shitty arms come out of college every year. Lots of people can replace him
Matt Ryan paints a different type of art than Mike Vick.
Matt Ryan didn't do anything special yet, besides being an above-average rookie.
I agree with the first half of your second statement, you unknowingly just proved my point. Mike Vick is super-fast with a decent arm, very hard to find as you've just told us.
Matt Ryan paints a different type of art than Mike Vick.
Matt Ryan didn't do anything special yet, besides being an above-average rookie.
I agree with the first half of your second statement, you unknowingly just proved my point. Mike Vick is super-fast with a decent arm, very hard to find as you've just told us.
Shitty means shitty , not decent. great debating skills, just put words in the other guys mouth and then counter those points that were never made
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Quote Originally Posted by BarryDingle31:
Matt Ryan paints a different type of art than Mike Vick.
Matt Ryan didn't do anything special yet, besides being an above-average rookie.
I agree with the first half of your second statement, you unknowingly just proved my point. Mike Vick is super-fast with a decent arm, very hard to find as you've just told us.
Shitty means shitty , not decent. great debating skills, just put words in the other guys mouth and then counter those points that were never made
Other then the Ely 2 years ago, Vick is the only QB I remember in the last 15 years to go on the road at Green Bay in the playoffs and win. He might not have the conventional numbers but the fact is he won games. And they were a better team with him then without. Let Ryan win some playoff games before we start comparing. ( For the record I like Ryan)
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Other then the Ely 2 years ago, Vick is the only QB I remember in the last 15 years to go on the road at Green Bay in the playoffs and win. He might not have the conventional numbers but the fact is he won games. And they were a better team with him then without. Let Ryan win some playoff games before we start comparing. ( For the record I like Ryan)
He's an evil prick, when I hear crap like theirs guys that have done far worse like what for example. I thought he was meant to do 10 years and we wouldnt have to see his ugly rotten mug in the NFL again.
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He's an evil prick, when I hear crap like theirs guys that have done far worse like what for example. I thought he was meant to do 10 years and we wouldnt have to see his ugly rotten mug in the NFL again.
fightintigraz-What happened the week after they got spanked by the Eagles,with Vick getting sacked three times and picked off twice one for 39 yard return td. Outside of that win what did he do in the playoffs.
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fightintigraz-What happened the week after they got spanked by the Eagles,with Vick getting sacked three times and picked off twice one for 39 yard return td. Outside of that win what did he do in the playoffs.
Phillyt did that to alot of QBs in the NFL. Dont forget they made 4 NFCChamp games in a row. Theres alot of good QBs who didnt win a super Bowl. And you really think 10 years is what he should of got?
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Phillyt did that to alot of QBs in the NFL. Dont forget they made 4 NFCChamp games in a row. Theres alot of good QBs who didnt win a super Bowl. And you really think 10 years is what he should of got?
I dont know but torturing animals just seems to get overlooked and downplayed because its not human beings in question. And GB wasnt a very good team that year,they barerly sqeauked out a 10-0 win against Buffalo the week or two before at Lambeau.
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I dont know but torturing animals just seems to get overlooked and downplayed because its not human beings in question. And GB wasnt a very good team that year,they barerly sqeauked out a 10-0 win against Buffalo the week or two before at Lambeau.
I agree its a terrible thing, but as I said before animals and Humans are 2 differnt things. I personally think 250 million and 2 years in prison is way enough of a punishment for his actions. Thats just me. Personally I think these guys that play sports do worse things and get no charge then what he did. At least he did his time and hes now trying to do the right thing by stoppiung young kids from getting involved in the heartless act.
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I agree its a terrible thing, but as I said before animals and Humans are 2 differnt things. I personally think 250 million and 2 years in prison is way enough of a punishment for his actions. Thats just me. Personally I think these guys that play sports do worse things and get no charge then what he did. At least he did his time and hes now trying to do the right thing by stoppiung young kids from getting involved in the heartless act.
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