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Posted: Sep. 23, 2011 - 9:48 AM ET #76

Andy, as a Jet fan, I agree with your Raiders play this week, but I think you're dwelling way too much on the lookahead factor. The Jets gained 280 yards of offense last week, the final score was extremely deceiving. The offense has to get a lot better and they know it, PLUS Mangold is missing the first game of his career. He has always been an enormous security blanket for Sanchez, spotting a lot of defensive intricacies that Sanchez often couldn't himself. Now, the replacement is an undrafted rookie. This will affect the run game that the Jets haven't even been able to establish yet with Mangold in there, and the onus will fall on Sanchez. As an unbiased Jet fan, I think it's fair to say that when the onus falls on Sanchez he fails more often than he succeeds. All that said, I know the "value" play is Oakland with the points, but honestly I see it as a total 50/50 game so if you can get +145 on the home team in this one I'd completely forego the points.

Also, I feel the under is an EXTREMELY strong play, more so than any side. Onus falling on Sanchez/tough matchup with the Oakland dline = lots of 3 step drops, dink and dunk offense. Oakland's strength is running the ball which the Jets have always been solid against, and I'll gladly bet against Jason Campbell and Denarius Moore not ripping up Revis and Cromartie at any consistent clip. This game has 17-13 somebody written all over it.

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Andy, as a Jet fan, I agree with your Raiders play this week, but I think you're dwelling way too much on the lookahead factor. The Jets gained 280 yards of offense last week, the final score was extremely deceiving. The offense has to get a lot better and they know it, PLUS Mangold is missing the first game of his career. He has always been an enormous security blanket for Sanchez, spotting a lot of defensive intricacies that Sanchez often couldn't himself. Now, the replacement is an undrafted rookie. This will affect the run game that the Jets haven't even been able to establish yet with Mangold in there, and the onus will fall on Sanchez. As an unbiased Jet fan, I think it's fair to say that when the onus falls on Sanchez he fails more often than he succeeds. All that said, I know the "value" play is Oakland with the points, but honestly I see it as a total 50/50 game so if you can get +145 on the home team in this one I'd completely forego the points.

Also, I feel the under is an EXTREMELY strong play, more so than any side. Onus falling on Sanchez/tough matchup with the Oakland dline = lots of 3 step drops, dink and dunk offense. Oakland's strength is running the ball which the Jets have always been solid against, and I'll gladly bet against Jason Campbell and Denarius Moore not ripping up Revis and Cromartie at any consistent clip. This game has 17-13 somebody written all over it.

 
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Posted: Sep. 23, 2011 - 12:51 PM ET #77

I am also an unbiased Jets fan.

Since when does Sanchez always fail when the onus is on him?


Unless Baxter is a total flop or the jets just come out flat, I expect the Jets to win and win big. I see a 31-10 type victory.

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I am also an unbiased Jets fan.

Since when does Sanchez always fail when the onus is on him?


Unless Baxter is a total flop or the jets just come out flat, I expect the Jets to win and win big. I see a 31-10 type victory.

If they



 
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Posted: Sep. 23, 2011 - 1:28 PM ET #78

Quote Originally Posted by srm627:

I am also an unbiased Jets fan.

Since when does Sanchez always fail when the onus is on him?


Unless Baxter is a total flop or the jets just come out flat, I expect the Jets to win and win big. I see a 31-10 type victory.

If they

Well, what makes you think Baxter won't be a flop? He's an undrafted rookie who didn't have any practice or even a playbook until mid August, when he took strictly second team snaps because Mangold is as reliable as they come. Now he has to go up against a tough Raiders front 7 who will undoubtedly scheme against him in particular.

In regards to Sanchez, this thread doesn't need a Mark Sanchez debate. If you think Sanchez is good, more power to you. I don't, and that's that.

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Quote Originally Posted by srm627:

I am also an unbiased Jets fan.

Since when does Sanchez always fail when the onus is on him?


Unless Baxter is a total flop or the jets just come out flat, I expect the Jets to win and win big. I see a 31-10 type victory.

If they

Well, what makes you think Baxter won't be a flop? He's an undrafted rookie who didn't have any practice or even a playbook until mid August, when he took strictly second team snaps because Mangold is as reliable as they come. Now he has to go up against a tough Raiders front 7 who will undoubtedly scheme against him in particular.

In regards to Sanchez, this thread doesn't need a Mark Sanchez debate. If you think Sanchez is good, more power to you. I don't, and that's that.

 
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Posted: Sep. 23, 2011 - 4:38 PM ET #79

Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:



Are the blokes going to cover the -62.5 over the US of A?




I saw South Africa beat somebody 87-0 the other day.



87-0




AUS beat USA 67-5 so people who backed -62.5 got raped











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Are the blokes going to cover the -62.5 over the US of A?




I saw South Africa beat somebody 87-0 the other day.



87-0




AUS beat USA 67-5 so people who backed -62.5 got raped











 
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Posted: Sep. 23, 2011 - 4:40 PM ET #80

Andy me thinks the Colts +10.5 looks gorgeous



Overrated Gayburgh Steelers going to struggle








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Posted: Sep. 23, 2011 - 6:29 PM ET #81

Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

Andy me thinks the Colts +10.5 looks gorgeous



Overrated Gayburgh Steelers going to struggle








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Andy me thinks the Colts +10.5 looks gorgeous



Overrated Gayburgh Steelers going to struggle








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Posted: Sep. 23, 2011 - 7:40 PM ET #82

Quote Originally Posted by P4P:

Saw you were initially looking at Seattle...has that fallen off the radar or are you still considering it? I have to say as atrocious as they are I'm pretty tempted by a +3.5 -110 or even the ML at +166.

Maybe the line's right, but I can't help but think we're getting at least a small amount of value after they got absolutely embarrassed in Pittsburgh last week...not to mention the flattering and very non-reflective final scoreline in the Arizona/Washington game.

Maybe it's a little expensive, but I think buying the Saints down to -3 is about as solid as it gets this week on an overall atrocious card. Texans second road game in a row, and they haven't played anyone even half-decent to this point in the year. Just can't see them walking out of the Superdome with a W.

BOL this week as always


I took Seattle +3.5. I see Rice is also going to start this week which is also a big boost for Jackson since him and Rice are basically in love.

Bad defenses laying road wood aren't good bets. I faded Arizona last week because their defense is just awful. The secondary consists of two rookie corners, castoff Kerry Rhodes, and Adrian Wilson who has always been overrated and is now playing with basically one arm as he has a torn biceps. Washington piled up 455 yards last week and had the ball for over 38 minutes but two redzone picks and a blocked FG and I and up paying the man.

Obviously Seattle is terrible but at 0-2 and in their home opener I look for them to open up the playbook and pull out all the stops to try to get a win. It's true Seattle was blown out last week but they basically had no chance in that game as soon as Pittsburgh was whipped by Baltimore. The Hawks were actually covering against the Niners on the road in Week 1 before those two late kick returns. Is Arizona really that much better on the road than San Fran at home? I don't think so. Maybe we get some Qwest Field special teams magic too.



I'm not sure what to make of the Texans/Saints game. I kinda think Houston is for real this year and obviously we're about to find out because they play New Orleans and Pittsburgh the next two. Tough to fade New Orleans in the Dome only getting 4 though. I just looked at the injury report and see Jonathan Vilma has not practiced all week and is listed as Doubtful. That's a big loss and is probably one of those guys that has no impact on the line but is actually worth a lot.

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Quote Originally Posted by P4P:

Saw you were initially looking at Seattle...has that fallen off the radar or are you still considering it? I have to say as atrocious as they are I'm pretty tempted by a +3.5 -110 or even the ML at +166.

Maybe the line's right, but I can't help but think we're getting at least a small amount of value after they got absolutely embarrassed in Pittsburgh last week...not to mention the flattering and very non-reflective final scoreline in the Arizona/Washington game.

Maybe it's a little expensive, but I think buying the Saints down to -3 is about as solid as it gets this week on an overall atrocious card. Texans second road game in a row, and they haven't played anyone even half-decent to this point in the year. Just can't see them walking out of the Superdome with a W.

BOL this week as always


I took Seattle +3.5. I see Rice is also going to start this week which is also a big boost for Jackson since him and Rice are basically in love.

Bad defenses laying road wood aren't good bets. I faded Arizona last week because their defense is just awful. The secondary consists of two rookie corners, castoff Kerry Rhodes, and Adrian Wilson who has always been overrated and is now playing with basically one arm as he has a torn biceps. Washington piled up 455 yards last week and had the ball for over 38 minutes but two redzone picks and a blocked FG and I and up paying the man.

Obviously Seattle is terrible but at 0-2 and in their home opener I look for them to open up the playbook and pull out all the stops to try to get a win. It's true Seattle was blown out last week but they basically had no chance in that game as soon as Pittsburgh was whipped by Baltimore. The Hawks were actually covering against the Niners on the road in Week 1 before those two late kick returns. Is Arizona really that much better on the road than San Fran at home? I don't think so. Maybe we get some Qwest Field special teams magic too.



I'm not sure what to make of the Texans/Saints game. I kinda think Houston is for real this year and obviously we're about to find out because they play New Orleans and Pittsburgh the next two. Tough to fade New Orleans in the Dome only getting 4 though. I just looked at the injury report and see Jonathan Vilma has not practiced all week and is listed as Doubtful. That's a big loss and is probably one of those guys that has no impact on the line but is actually worth a lot.

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Like the Bengals this week also Andy, will probably fire on it also. Been cashing mad on teasers the first two weeks going 9-1. I only hit an ATS play if I really like it, and besides the Bungs, there are 2 others I really like this week.

1.) TB -1 - I think the Falcons are a fraud. This team would have lost last week if Vick didn't get hurt and has done nothing to fix their horrible D. The Bucs looked great in the 2nd half last week and I think it carries over this week into a big divisional win. They are a 2nd half team but I think they play a full 60 minute game this Sunday and do something they couldn't do last year which is beat the Falcons. The Falcs are just horrible away from home and it showed week 1 against the Bears. I don't think this team makes the playoffs this year. Happy to grab the Bucs at under a FG and the line is only like that because the Falcons won and the Bucs barely beat the horrible Vikes.

2.) Bills +9 - I know my Pats and this game is gonna be a nail biter. They have a couple big injuries to Hernandez and Chung. Hernandez is a big part of that passing game and Chung is very important to that secondary. Like all games in Buffalo, this one is gonna be another nail biter. I think the Pats pull out the win but the Bills will hang around till the end. That crowd will be rocking and the Bills are coming into this one with a lot of confidence. Too many times have they led the Pats only to collapse and they will treat this like a superbowl game. They know if they want to take the next step they have to beat the Pats and win this game. The Pats have had big problems containing the super underrated Fred Jackson and Steve Johnson will give them problems in the passing game. I just think this is a good spot for the Bills at home with some key injuries to the Pats.

I know you are leaning the Pats, but If I know my team they will have a very tough time this week.


Nice thoughts and nice to see an unbiased fan that isn't a complete homer.

I just have a bad taste in my mouth from Week 1 when Tampa was manhandled in the 1st half. Then last week they were down 17-0 at halftime. They are going to pull it together and play a 60 minute game soon I'm just not sure when that will be. I agree wholeheartedly with you on Atlanta though. If Tampa is down at halftime it may be a hammer play in the 2nd half because they will make a run.

Two things bug me about the Bills.

#1
It seems like a lot of people are looking at this game with intrigue and think the Bills may actually pull it off. Buffalo is kind of a hip pick to give the Pats a real scare and that scares me because it will motivate the Pats or at least make them take notice. I prefer to bet on dogs when they are more under the radar.

#2 The Pats offense looks scary and I'm not sure the Bills have what it takes to keep them in check. Maybe they overlook the Bills and play sloppy but with it being so early in the year and the Bills being 2-0 it doesn't seem as likely. And how good is Buffalo? They beat an awful KC team and put up 35 in the 2nd half against an Oakland team last week that completely ran out of gas in an awful spot. Jury is still out.

It's going to be pretty square but I'm going to tease the Pats down.
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Like the Bengals this week also Andy, will probably fire on it also. Been cashing mad on teasers the first two weeks going 9-1. I only hit an ATS play if I really like it, and besides the Bungs, there are 2 others I really like this week.

1.) TB -1 - I think the Falcons are a fraud. This team would have lost last week if Vick didn't get hurt and has done nothing to fix their horrible D. The Bucs looked great in the 2nd half last week and I think it carries over this week into a big divisional win. They are a 2nd half team but I think they play a full 60 minute game this Sunday and do something they couldn't do last year which is beat the Falcons. The Falcs are just horrible away from home and it showed week 1 against the Bears. I don't think this team makes the playoffs this year. Happy to grab the Bucs at under a FG and the line is only like that because the Falcons won and the Bucs barely beat the horrible Vikes.

2.) Bills +9 - I know my Pats and this game is gonna be a nail biter. They have a couple big injuries to Hernandez and Chung. Hernandez is a big part of that passing game and Chung is very important to that secondary. Like all games in Buffalo, this one is gonna be another nail biter. I think the Pats pull out the win but the Bills will hang around till the end. That crowd will be rocking and the Bills are coming into this one with a lot of confidence. Too many times have they led the Pats only to collapse and they will treat this like a superbowl game. They know if they want to take the next step they have to beat the Pats and win this game. The Pats have had big problems containing the super underrated Fred Jackson and Steve Johnson will give them problems in the passing game. I just think this is a good spot for the Bills at home with some key injuries to the Pats.

I know you are leaning the Pats, but If I know my team they will have a very tough time this week.


Nice thoughts and nice to see an unbiased fan that isn't a complete homer.

I just have a bad taste in my mouth from Week 1 when Tampa was manhandled in the 1st half. Then last week they were down 17-0 at halftime. They are going to pull it together and play a 60 minute game soon I'm just not sure when that will be. I agree wholeheartedly with you on Atlanta though. If Tampa is down at halftime it may be a hammer play in the 2nd half because they will make a run.

Two things bug me about the Bills.

#1
It seems like a lot of people are looking at this game with intrigue and think the Bills may actually pull it off. Buffalo is kind of a hip pick to give the Pats a real scare and that scares me because it will motivate the Pats or at least make them take notice. I prefer to bet on dogs when they are more under the radar.

#2 The Pats offense looks scary and I'm not sure the Bills have what it takes to keep them in check. Maybe they overlook the Bills and play sloppy but with it being so early in the year and the Bills being 2-0 it doesn't seem as likely. And how good is Buffalo? They beat an awful KC team and put up 35 in the 2nd half against an Oakland team last week that completely ran out of gas in an awful spot. Jury is still out.

It's going to be pretty square but I'm going to tease the Pats down.
 
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Andy, as a Jet fan, I agree with your Raiders play this week, but I think you're dwelling way too much on the lookahead factor. The Jets gained 280 yards of offense last week, the final score was extremely deceiving. The offense has to get a lot better and they know it, PLUS Mangold is missing the first game of his career. He has always been an enormous security blanket for Sanchez, spotting a lot of defensive intricacies that Sanchez often couldn't himself. Now, the replacement is an undrafted rookie. This will affect the run game that the Jets haven't even been able to establish yet with Mangold in there, and the onus will fall on Sanchez. As an unbiased Jet fan, I think it's fair to say that when the onus falls on Sanchez he fails more often than he succeeds. All that said, I know the "value" play is Oakland with the points, but honestly I see it as a total 50/50 game so if you can get +145 on the home team in this one I'd completely forego the points.

Also, I feel the under is an EXTREMELY strong play, more so than any side. Onus falling on Sanchez/tough matchup with the Oakland dline = lots of 3 step drops, dink and dunk offense. Oakland's strength is running the ball which the Jets have always been solid against, and I'll gladly bet against Jason Campbell and Denarius Moore not ripping up Revis and Cromartie at any consistent clip. This game has 17-13 somebody written all over it.



I like the way you look at games. I've read a lot of your other posts and you should post more often.

I came into the year with Unders on the "Do not ever bet in NFL" list and low and behold I bet one last week and we see two TD's in the last 2 min 30 sec. I like your analysis though. Ford and Murphy are out for Oakland and I'd now have to pay upwards of -120 for the Raiders +3.5 which is gross so I will pass. You may be right about the lookahead factor. After thinking about it it usually isn't as big of a factor until after the 1st month.

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Andy, as a Jet fan, I agree with your Raiders play this week, but I think you're dwelling way too much on the lookahead factor. The Jets gained 280 yards of offense last week, the final score was extremely deceiving. The offense has to get a lot better and they know it, PLUS Mangold is missing the first game of his career. He has always been an enormous security blanket for Sanchez, spotting a lot of defensive intricacies that Sanchez often couldn't himself. Now, the replacement is an undrafted rookie. This will affect the run game that the Jets haven't even been able to establish yet with Mangold in there, and the onus will fall on Sanchez. As an unbiased Jet fan, I think it's fair to say that when the onus falls on Sanchez he fails more often than he succeeds. All that said, I know the "value" play is Oakland with the points, but honestly I see it as a total 50/50 game so if you can get +145 on the home team in this one I'd completely forego the points.

Also, I feel the under is an EXTREMELY strong play, more so than any side. Onus falling on Sanchez/tough matchup with the Oakland dline = lots of 3 step drops, dink and dunk offense. Oakland's strength is running the ball which the Jets have always been solid against, and I'll gladly bet against Jason Campbell and Denarius Moore not ripping up Revis and Cromartie at any consistent clip. This game has 17-13 somebody written all over it.



I like the way you look at games. I've read a lot of your other posts and you should post more often.

I came into the year with Unders on the "Do not ever bet in NFL" list and low and behold I bet one last week and we see two TD's in the last 2 min 30 sec. I like your analysis though. Ford and Murphy are out for Oakland and I'd now have to pay upwards of -120 for the Raiders +3.5 which is gross so I will pass. You may be right about the lookahead factor. After thinking about it it usually isn't as big of a factor until after the 1st month.

GL.
 
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87-0




AUS beat USA 67-5 so people who backed -62.5 got raped















What a fisting. I actually watched a few minutes of that game and the Aussies missed two extra points in the 1st half (or whatever they kick after the "try") that I think are worth two points each. Ouch.

These guys are crazy. I've never played or watched Rugby but these guys are basically all the size of linebackers and are tackling and beating the shit out of each other for 80 minutes without any helmets or pads of any kind. They make football players look like pussies.
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AUS beat USA 67-5 so people who backed -62.5 got raped















What a fisting. I actually watched a few minutes of that game and the Aussies missed two extra points in the 1st half (or whatever they kick after the "try") that I think are worth two points each. Ouch.

These guys are crazy. I've never played or watched Rugby but these guys are basically all the size of linebackers and are tackling and beating the shit out of each other for 80 minutes without any helmets or pads of any kind. They make football players look like pussies.
 
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Andy me thinks the Colts +10.5 looks gorgeous



Overrated Gayburgh Steelers going to struggle








What you think about this match


Then go for it.

I'm not betting on those dogs. I do agree with you about Pittsburgh though. I'm looking to bet against them against decent teams (like next week @ Houston). You'd think the Colts show up here but their defense is a banged up mess and Kerry Collins is a turd. No thanks.
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Andy me thinks the Colts +10.5 looks gorgeous



Overrated Gayburgh Steelers going to struggle








What you think about this match


Then go for it.

I'm not betting on those dogs. I do agree with you about Pittsburgh though. I'm looking to bet against them against decent teams (like next week @ Houston). You'd think the Colts show up here but their defense is a banged up mess and Kerry Collins is a turd. No thanks.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by shakey12381:

im a huge sf fan and absolutely love cincy in this spot

that might the dumbest thing i have ever heard 

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im a huge sf fan and absolutely love cincy in this spot

that might the dumbest thing i have ever heard 

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Then go for it.

I'm not betting on those dogs. I do agree with you about Pittsburgh though. I'm looking to bet against them against decent teams (like next week @ Houston). You'd think the Colts show up here but their defense is a banged up mess and Kerry Collins is a turd. No thanks.




Yeah boi



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Then go for it.

I'm not betting on those dogs. I do agree with you about Pittsburgh though. I'm looking to bet against them against decent teams (like next week @ Houston). You'd think the Colts show up here but their defense is a banged up mess and Kerry Collins is a turd. No thanks.




Yeah boi



 
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What a fisting. I actually watched a few minutes of that game and the Aussies missed two extra points in the 1st half (or whatever they kick after the "try") that I think are worth two points each. Ouch.

These guys are crazy. I've never played or watched Rugby but these guys are basically all the size of linebackers and are tackling and beating the shit out of each other for 80 minutes without any helmets or pads of any kind. They make football players look like pussies.



There not as tough as those mighty Canadian footballers but there not bad fella
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What a fisting. I actually watched a few minutes of that game and the Aussies missed two extra points in the 1st half (or whatever they kick after the "try") that I think are worth two points each. Ouch.

These guys are crazy. I've never played or watched Rugby but these guys are basically all the size of linebackers and are tackling and beating the shit out of each other for 80 minutes without any helmets or pads of any kind. They make football players look like pussies.



There not as tough as those mighty Canadian footballers but there not bad fella
 
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Lots of good posts in here!

Sidney Rice is playing?  I thought he tore the labrum in his shoulder?  Shit, I tore my labrum in June, had surgery in late July, and still am in therapy lifting sky blue 5 pound dumbbells like a little bitch.  I can't imagine this guy being able to do anything on the field.

Liking Oakland and Seattle more and more.  It might be a small card home doggie weekend with those two and Miami to finish it off. 

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Lots of good posts in here!

Sidney Rice is playing?  I thought he tore the labrum in his shoulder?  Shit, I tore my labrum in June, had surgery in late July, and still am in therapy lifting sky blue 5 pound dumbbells like a little bitch.  I can't imagine this guy being able to do anything on the field.

Liking Oakland and Seattle more and more.  It might be a small card home doggie weekend with those two and Miami to finish it off. 

 
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Going with these for now:


Cincinnati -2

Seattle +3.5

Teaser: New England -1 & Miami +7.5


Talked about the Pats earlier but as far as Miami goes this is a very big game for them. They seem to play better on the road away from the circus in Miami where the owner has all these celebrity parties and where honestly the fans stink. The Fish have played New England and Houston so far so to say this is a step down in class may be an understatement. Cleveland is not an explosive team and I'd be surprised if either team lead this game by over a TD. If Miami loses this one then they have clearly quit on their coach and he'll see a pink slip pretty quick.

Only other one I'm looking at is the Eagles.


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Going with these for now:


Cincinnati -2

Seattle +3.5

Teaser: New England -1 & Miami +7.5


Talked about the Pats earlier but as far as Miami goes this is a very big game for them. They seem to play better on the road away from the circus in Miami where the owner has all these celebrity parties and where honestly the fans stink. The Fish have played New England and Houston so far so to say this is a step down in class may be an understatement. Cleveland is not an explosive team and I'd be surprised if either team lead this game by over a TD. If Miami loses this one then they have clearly quit on their coach and he'll see a pink slip pretty quick.

Only other one I'm looking at is the Eagles.


 
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Only other one I'm looking at is the Eagles.




That's the name of the USA rugby team,stay away from them Andy



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Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:

Going with these for now:


Cincinnati -2

Seattle +3.5

Teaser: New England -1 & Miami +7.5


Talked about the Pats earlier but as far as Miami goes this is a very big game for them. They seem to play better on the road away from the circus in Miami where the owner has all these celebrity parties and where honestly the fans stink. The Fish have played New England and Houston so far so to say this is a step down in class may be an understatement. Cleveland is not an explosive team and I'd be surprised if either team lead this game by over a TD. If Miami loses this one then they have clearly quit on their coach and he'll see a pink slip pretty quick.

Only other one I'm looking at is the Eagles.


Looks good, Andy.  BOL.

I went with....

- Miami +2
- Oakland +3.5
- Seattle +3
- Green Bay -4

Quick thoughts.  I think Miami continues what they did last week and pound Daniel Thomas.  If they go that route, I don't think Cleveland will be able to stop it.  Oakland is a combo of their front four keeping the jets run game in check and leaving the game in Sanchez's hands without his center.  Seattle kind of a gut play.  Green Bay is a fade of my Bears who were PUTRID last week.

GL to all.  Great thread this week.

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Going with these for now:


Cincinnati -2

Seattle +3.5

Teaser: New England -1 & Miami +7.5


Talked about the Pats earlier but as far as Miami goes this is a very big game for them. They seem to play better on the road away from the circus in Miami where the owner has all these celebrity parties and where honestly the fans stink. The Fish have played New England and Houston so far so to say this is a step down in class may be an understatement. Cleveland is not an explosive team and I'd be surprised if either team lead this game by over a TD. If Miami loses this one then they have clearly quit on their coach and he'll see a pink slip pretty quick.

Only other one I'm looking at is the Eagles.


Looks good, Andy.  BOL.

I went with....

- Miami +2
- Oakland +3.5
- Seattle +3
- Green Bay -4

Quick thoughts.  I think Miami continues what they did last week and pound Daniel Thomas.  If they go that route, I don't think Cleveland will be able to stop it.  Oakland is a combo of their front four keeping the jets run game in check and leaving the game in Sanchez's hands without his center.  Seattle kind of a gut play.  Green Bay is a fade of my Bears who were PUTRID last week.

GL to all.  Great thread this week.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by glyde69:

Looks good, Andy.  BOL.

I went with....

- Miami +2
- Oakland +3.5
- Seattle +3
- Green Bay -4

Quick thoughts.  I think Miami continues what they did last week and pound Daniel Thomas.  If they go that route, I don't think Cleveland will be able to stop it.  Oakland is a combo of their front four keeping the jets run game in check and leaving the game in Sanchez's hands without his center.  Seattle kind of a gut play.  Green Bay is a fade of my Bears who were PUTRID last week.

GL to all.  Great thread this week.



Looks good bro hope you get paid this week.

Im gonna take a shot with Philadelphia - whatever. I will wait until tomorrow to see if the line moves.

The Giants are a mess right now. Sometimes 1 injury doesnt matter too much but cluster injuries matter a lot. I have a very tough time seeing the Giants scoring many points. They had 14 points in Week 1 and 14 of their 28 last week came via a defensive score and maybe the catch of the year. This team literally has 1 receiver. Victor Cruz is the #2 man this week and he has two career catches. They have signed two guys off the street in recent weeks for depth at the position. Smith and Boss were huge players for this team and safety nets for Eli. They were both key on 3rd down too and so far the Giants have been just terrible on 3rd down at 6 for 25 (24%). With the Eagles great corners I see them playing man to man and blitzing the shit out of Eli on passing downs and loading up the box to stop the run on running downs. The Giants new offensive line has looked bad as they cant block in the run game and have already given up 7 sacks after giving up just 16 in 16 games last season. The Giants cant just throw screens to Bradshaw all day.

This is more of a play on the Philly D and against the Giant O but I also think the Eagles offense will get their fair share. I havent been impressed with the Giants defense while the Eagles have looked good offensively and may have dropped 40 had Vick not got hurt last week. Vick against this pass rush is a concern but McCoy catching screen passes will be a great counter. The Giants do have big revenge here but Im just not sure they have the horses right now to get it done. Even though the Giants are banged up Philly wont be overlooking them as there has been a lot of trash talk between these two teams throughout the offseason, Philly is in their home opener, and the Eagles are in a nice spot where they are 16-6 ATS at home off a loss where they gave up 30+ under Andy Reid.


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Looks good, Andy.  BOL.

I went with....

- Miami +2
- Oakland +3.5
- Seattle +3
- Green Bay -4

Quick thoughts.  I think Miami continues what they did last week and pound Daniel Thomas.  If they go that route, I don't think Cleveland will be able to stop it.  Oakland is a combo of their front four keeping the jets run game in check and leaving the game in Sanchez's hands without his center.  Seattle kind of a gut play.  Green Bay is a fade of my Bears who were PUTRID last week.

GL to all.  Great thread this week.



Looks good bro hope you get paid this week.

Im gonna take a shot with Philadelphia - whatever. I will wait until tomorrow to see if the line moves.

The Giants are a mess right now. Sometimes 1 injury doesnt matter too much but cluster injuries matter a lot. I have a very tough time seeing the Giants scoring many points. They had 14 points in Week 1 and 14 of their 28 last week came via a defensive score and maybe the catch of the year. This team literally has 1 receiver. Victor Cruz is the #2 man this week and he has two career catches. They have signed two guys off the street in recent weeks for depth at the position. Smith and Boss were huge players for this team and safety nets for Eli. They were both key on 3rd down too and so far the Giants have been just terrible on 3rd down at 6 for 25 (24%). With the Eagles great corners I see them playing man to man and blitzing the shit out of Eli on passing downs and loading up the box to stop the run on running downs. The Giants new offensive line has looked bad as they cant block in the run game and have already given up 7 sacks after giving up just 16 in 16 games last season. The Giants cant just throw screens to Bradshaw all day.

This is more of a play on the Philly D and against the Giant O but I also think the Eagles offense will get their fair share. I havent been impressed with the Giants defense while the Eagles have looked good offensively and may have dropped 40 had Vick not got hurt last week. Vick against this pass rush is a concern but McCoy catching screen passes will be a great counter. The Giants do have big revenge here but Im just not sure they have the horses right now to get it done. Even though the Giants are banged up Philly wont be overlooking them as there has been a lot of trash talk between these two teams throughout the offseason, Philly is in their home opener, and the Eagles are in a nice spot where they are 16-6 ATS at home off a loss where they gave up 30+ under Andy Reid.


 
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Dear Pete:

Let's put this in terms you can understand.  This is your homecoming game.  The one where all the pretty girls come out and blindly cheer on the home team against a cupcake opponent.  The one where your entire team always played with that extra gear, "student/athlete benefits" notwithstanding.  You remember those days at 'SC, right Pete?  Like when you stomped the Sun Devils in '04.  Well, there's another Phoenix team coming to your house this weekend.  Let's see all the trick plays come out, the special teamers play with reckless adandon, the o-line grunts maul their front 7.  Let's make your school, er, your billionaire owner proud, and at the same time, help out your loyal fans who laid +165.  Thanks mate! 

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Dear Pete:

Let's put this in terms you can understand.  This is your homecoming game.  The one where all the pretty girls come out and blindly cheer on the home team against a cupcake opponent.  The one where your entire team always played with that extra gear, "student/athlete benefits" notwithstanding.  You remember those days at 'SC, right Pete?  Like when you stomped the Sun Devils in '04.  Well, there's another Phoenix team coming to your house this weekend.  Let's see all the trick plays come out, the special teamers play with reckless adandon, the o-line grunts maul their front 7.  Let's make your school, er, your billionaire owner proud, and at the same time, help out your loyal fans who laid +165.  Thanks mate! 

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This is the best football thread I've ever seen.  Jesus.  

Feels like my NFL IQ just went up 25 points.
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This is the best football thread I've ever seen.  Jesus.  

Feels like my NFL IQ just went up 25 points.
 
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Posted: Sep. 25, 2011 - 8:30 AM ET #99

Quote Originally Posted by thejudge1000:

Dear Pete:

Let's put this in terms you can understand.  This is your homecoming game.  The one where all the pretty girls come out and blindly cheer on the home team against a cupcake opponent.  The one where your entire team always played with that extra gear, "student/athlete benefits" notwithstanding.  You remember those days at 'SC, right Pete?  Like when you stomped the Sun Devils in '04.  Well, there's another Phoenix team coming to your house this weekend.  Let's see all the trick plays come out, the special teamers play with reckless adandon, the o-line grunts maul their front 7.  Let's make your school, er, your billionaire owner proud, and at the same time, help out your loyal fans who laid +165.  Thanks mate! 

Your friend, Judge.

Seattle!

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Quote Originally Posted by thejudge1000:

Dear Pete:

Let's put this in terms you can understand.  This is your homecoming game.  The one where all the pretty girls come out and blindly cheer on the home team against a cupcake opponent.  The one where your entire team always played with that extra gear, "student/athlete benefits" notwithstanding.  You remember those days at 'SC, right Pete?  Like when you stomped the Sun Devils in '04.  Well, there's another Phoenix team coming to your house this weekend.  Let's see all the trick plays come out, the special teamers play with reckless adandon, the o-line grunts maul their front 7.  Let's make your school, er, your billionaire owner proud, and at the same time, help out your loyal fans who laid +165.  Thanks mate! 

Your friend, Judge.

Seattle!

 
 
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Posted: Sep. 25, 2011 - 9:15 AM ET #100

Quote Originally Posted by Fishscale:

This is the best football thread I've ever seen.  Jesus.  

Feels like my NFL IQ just went up 25 points.


Sweet! Now you're NFL IQ is 25 !
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Quote Originally Posted by Fishscale:

This is the best football thread I've ever seen.  Jesus.  

Feels like my NFL IQ just went up 25 points.


Sweet! Now you're NFL IQ is 25 !
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