I suppose that the fact that you couldn't even think of anything to write after Big Ben says enough. And COLLINS? are u kidding me? With that ridiculously potent run game and arguably one of the best Run D's in the league? ur telling me a guy who's sole job is to not throw interceptions and put up 150 yards/game solely to keep the team somewhat resembling a balanced offense, is supposed to be the MVP of the league???? Come on bro....
LOL I do not need to say anything about Big Ben as he is the man and his actions speak on the field. My favorite QB so he is my 1st pick..Such heart, such leadership such poise such balls, the guy is unflappable and correct me if im wrong, teh youngest QB to win the SuperBowl in his 2nd season. And going strong now..
AS far as collins is concerned,. He aint no manning - your right and he isnt my 1st pick. I just like what he has meant to the Titans
And when you say MFP of the league, does that mean Fantasy numbers? or does it mean who the NFL puts on TV more, or is a guy who saves a teams season like Collins did.
After Young decided he does not want to be an NFL QB this team could have easily folded. But he has played very welll, yes they have great RB's and the D-
,Check this out- Tenn is 12-2 and if they beat Pitt on Sunday and Collins plays well vs this monster D then you may not scoff the pick as much...
They are the suprise this season and Collins is the Leader He has lead this team and they love him for it.
Peace out
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Quote Originally Posted by FL4wL3s5:
...What?
I suppose that the fact that you couldn't even think of anything to write after Big Ben says enough. And COLLINS? are u kidding me? With that ridiculously potent run game and arguably one of the best Run D's in the league? ur telling me a guy who's sole job is to not throw interceptions and put up 150 yards/game solely to keep the team somewhat resembling a balanced offense, is supposed to be the MVP of the league???? Come on bro....
LOL I do not need to say anything about Big Ben as he is the man and his actions speak on the field. My favorite QB so he is my 1st pick..Such heart, such leadership such poise such balls, the guy is unflappable and correct me if im wrong, teh youngest QB to win the SuperBowl in his 2nd season. And going strong now..
AS far as collins is concerned,. He aint no manning - your right and he isnt my 1st pick. I just like what he has meant to the Titans
And when you say MFP of the league, does that mean Fantasy numbers? or does it mean who the NFL puts on TV more, or is a guy who saves a teams season like Collins did.
After Young decided he does not want to be an NFL QB this team could have easily folded. But he has played very welll, yes they have great RB's and the D-
,Check this out- Tenn is 12-2 and if they beat Pitt on Sunday and Collins plays well vs this monster D then you may not scoff the pick as much...
They are the suprise this season and Collins is the Leader He has lead this team and they love him for it.
LOL I do not need to say anything about Big Ben as he is the man and his actions speak on the field. My favorite QB so he is my 1st pick..Such heart, such leadership such poise such balls, the guy is unflappable and correct me if im wrong, teh youngest QB to win the SuperBowl in his 2nd season. And going strong now..
AS far as collins is concerned,. He aint no manning - your right and he isnt my 1st pick. I just like what he has meant to the Titans
And when you say MFP of the league, does that mean Fantasy numbers? or does it mean who the NFL puts on TV more, or is a guy who saves a teams season like Collins did.
After Young decided he does not want to be an NFL QB this team could have easily folded. But he has played very welll, yes they have great RB's and the D-
,Check this out- Tenn is 12-2 and if they beat Pitt on Sunday and Collins plays well vs this monster D then you may not scoff the pick as much...
They are the suprise this season and Collins is the Leader He has lead this team and they love him for it.
Peace out
Yes both qbs have played good enough for their teams to win but do you honestly believe they belong in the mvp race? Because they dont.
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Quote Originally Posted by Gold_Rush:
LOL I do not need to say anything about Big Ben as he is the man and his actions speak on the field. My favorite QB so he is my 1st pick..Such heart, such leadership such poise such balls, the guy is unflappable and correct me if im wrong, teh youngest QB to win the SuperBowl in his 2nd season. And going strong now..
AS far as collins is concerned,. He aint no manning - your right and he isnt my 1st pick. I just like what he has meant to the Titans
And when you say MFP of the league, does that mean Fantasy numbers? or does it mean who the NFL puts on TV more, or is a guy who saves a teams season like Collins did.
After Young decided he does not want to be an NFL QB this team could have easily folded. But he has played very welll, yes they have great RB's and the D-
,Check this out- Tenn is 12-2 and if they beat Pitt on Sunday and Collins plays well vs this monster D then you may not scoff the pick as much...
They are the suprise this season and Collins is the Leader He has lead this team and they love him for it.
Peace out
Yes both qbs have played good enough for their teams to win but do you honestly believe they belong in the mvp race? Because they dont.
You bring up the sack category..do you know why Manning doesn't get sacked more???? It's because he is better under pressure, moves well in the pocket and has a quicker release.
Manning has had an awful o-line for most of this year. I have watched every Colts game and 3 of their starters were out of place for the first 4 games. He has had more pressure on him this year then ever..BY FAR. He has done an absolute incredible job avoiding the pressure and getting rid of the ball. Stuff like that goes unspoken for and he is still the best in the league at it.
Warner, Brees, Romo and Rivers are all better?
WHAT A COMPLETE JOKE.
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You bring up the sack category..do you know why Manning doesn't get sacked more???? It's because he is better under pressure, moves well in the pocket and has a quicker release.
Manning has had an awful o-line for most of this year. I have watched every Colts game and 3 of their starters were out of place for the first 4 games. He has had more pressure on him this year then ever..BY FAR. He has done an absolute incredible job avoiding the pressure and getting rid of the ball. Stuff like that goes unspoken for and he is still the best in the league at it.
That is a direct quote from you..if that's so lets measure their strength of schedule, strength of victory and who has numerically faced the tougher pass defense..none of this, "ohh this team was hot then"..the fact is the Colts have a stronger strength of victory, strength of schedule and strength of pass defenses. Don't be a hypocrite now, measure we you can
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"Then measure what we can"
That is a direct quote from you..if that's so lets measure their strength of schedule, strength of victory and who has numerically faced the tougher pass defense..none of this, "ohh this team was hot then"..the fact is the Colts have a stronger strength of victory, strength of schedule and strength of pass defenses. Don't be a hypocrite now, measure we you can
This is an wide open choice like you said. To me, I am impressed enough with Collins to say he is the Titans MVP
how does one define MVP for the league? I guess i do not know as I think it is subjective and everyone can differ on it
Is it ratings? is it stats> is it what they do for their team. Im not sure, but I am not really big on this MVP stuff really as to me the NFL is a team game and the Team wins Games with a leader.
Peyton is insane- I should change my pick!
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This is an wide open choice like you said. To me, I am impressed enough with Collins to say he is the Titans MVP
how does one define MVP for the league? I guess i do not know as I think it is subjective and everyone can differ on it
Is it ratings? is it stats> is it what they do for their team. Im not sure, but I am not really big on this MVP stuff really as to me the NFL is a team game and the Team wins Games with a leader.
I think it's a factor of stats+value to a team+support/lack of support as you take a team to the playoffs.
I mean if you put Manning on the Titans with that running game and defense I think there is a decent chance they are undefeated right now. If you put Collins on the Colts they're probably 6-9, if that.
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Gold,
I think it's a factor of stats+value to a team+support/lack of support as you take a team to the playoffs.
I mean if you put Manning on the Titans with that running game and defense I think there is a decent chance they are undefeated right now. If you put Collins on the Colts they're probably 6-9, if that.
I think it's a factor of stats+value to a team+support/lack of support as you take a team to the playoffs.
I mean if you put Manning on the Titans with that running game and defense I think there is a decent chance they are undefeated right now. If you put Collins on the Colts they're probably 6-9, if that.
Kinda disagree with this statement. I think its more then decent chance. I put it at 100% that if you put Peyton on the Titans they are undefeated
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Quote Originally Posted by fel2718:
Gold,
I think it's a factor of stats+value to a team+support/lack of support as you take a team to the playoffs.
I mean if you put Manning on the Titans with that running game and defense I think there is a decent chance they are undefeated right now. If you put Collins on the Colts they're probably 6-9, if that.
Kinda disagree with this statement. I think its more then decent chance. I put it at 100% that if you put Peyton on the Titans they are undefeated
great odds on peyton, GREAT JOB whether he wins it or not
I DONT SEE HOW SOMEONE LIKE WARNER could win with a 8-6 record through 14games, in the BY FAR THE EASIEST division in the NFL, even if they had the worst RB in FootBall and the worst WR's in the NFL [ WHICH IS IRONIC, BECAUSE THEY HONESTLY HAVE 2 OF THE BEST 7 WR'S in the NFLthats being honest, and noone in their right mind can agree that they arent.
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great odds on peyton, GREAT JOB whether he wins it or not
I DONT SEE HOW SOMEONE LIKE WARNER could win with a 8-6 record through 14games, in the BY FAR THE EASIEST division in the NFL, even if they had the worst RB in FootBall and the worst WR's in the NFL [ WHICH IS IRONIC, BECAUSE THEY HONESTLY HAVE 2 OF THE BEST 7 WR'S in the NFLthats being honest, and noone in their right mind can agree that they arent.
if THE CARDS were 8-6, in the w0RSt division in football [WHICH THEY CLEARLY are having the 9ers, seahawks and rams in their division] AND had the the worst WR in football [ which they clearly dont have the worst starting wr in football :::: they clearly have the best 1 2 punch in boldin and fitz in the NFL and quite possibly and in my opinion the best one 2 punch since HOLT AND BRUCE since the 01 season.] and lets say the worst RB in the NFL which they clearly DONT have since they have TIM HIGHTOWER, THEN, AND ONLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY THEN, WOULD
KURT WARNER
be eligible to take home the significant MVP award
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HONESTLY............
if THE CARDS were 8-6, in the w0RSt division in football [WHICH THEY CLEARLY are having the 9ers, seahawks and rams in their division] AND had the the worst WR in football [ which they clearly dont have the worst starting wr in football :::: they clearly have the best 1 2 punch in boldin and fitz in the NFL and quite possibly and in my opinion the best one 2 punch since HOLT AND BRUCE since the 01 season.] and lets say the worst RB in the NFL which they clearly DONT have since they have TIM HIGHTOWER, THEN, AND ONLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY THEN, WOULD
KURT WARNER
be eligible to take home the significant MVP award
I dont think Warner compares to Peyton. Period. For the people who argue its AP, you need to realize Chester Taylor is a VERY suitable back in this league. Yes AP is great and is the best RB in the league hands down, but take him off the team, and they are still decent with production from Chester Taylor. Take Peyton off the Colts, well...
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I dont think Warner compares to Peyton. Period. For the people who argue its AP, you need to realize Chester Taylor is a VERY suitable back in this league. Yes AP is great and is the best RB in the league hands down, but take him off the team, and they are still decent with production from Chester Taylor. Take Peyton off the Colts, well...
if the MVP award went to the leading passer every year then the voting would not even happen.
It takes alot more than that to win the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER AWARD and in my opinion CLEARLY KURT ISNT "alot more than that".............maybe just my opinion but i feel the commitee will agree with me for obvious reason
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if the MVP award went to the leading passer every year then the voting would not even happen.
It takes alot more than that to win the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER AWARD and in my opinion CLEARLY KURT ISNT "alot more than that".............maybe just my opinion but i feel the commitee will agree with me for obvious reason
Cards vs. NFC West: 5-0 Cards vs the rest of the NFL: 3-6
Going to be 3-7 after today, give me a break with this Warner garbage, I can't believe you use "his soft schedule" against Manning when Warner hasn't beaten anything outside of his division (one of the worst divisions in league history) and has one of the softest schedules in the league.
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They showed today before the Pats game:
Cards vs. NFC West: 5-0 Cards vs the rest of the NFL: 3-6
Going to be 3-7 after today, give me a break with this Warner garbage, I can't believe you use "his soft schedule" against Manning when Warner hasn't beaten anything outside of his division (one of the worst divisions in league history) and has one of the softest schedules in the league.
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