Does it even matter if they're swiss-cheese? They made the Jets dominating defense look like swiss-cheese today. The only way you slow down the Colts is by forcing turnovers. The Saints have done it better than anyone has all season. And they have the best offense--by far--the Colts will have seen this year. By far.
So over it is - easy.
41-31 Colts.
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Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete21:
Does it even matter if they're swiss-cheese? They made the Jets dominating defense look like swiss-cheese today. The only way you slow down the Colts is by forcing turnovers. The Saints have done it better than anyone has all season. And they have the best offense--by far--the Colts will have seen this year. By far.
Early action at 3.5 I hear pretty good money I don't see the line going below this number again before gametime I make the final number to be about 5 when the dust settles but we shall see.
BOL with whatever way you go.
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Early action at 3.5 I hear pretty good money I don't see the line going below this number again before gametime I make the final number to be about 5 when the dust settles but we shall see.
That's not the debate. It's covering the correct number were discussing.
how about this....you'd be a fucking moron not to take the Colts minus the current 4.5.....ML -210 is even reasonable for the vaginas out there.......Manning and company aren't losing this one, and the line will very likely not be in play
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Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999:
That's not the debate. It's covering the correct number were discussing.
how about this....you'd be a fucking moron not to take the Colts minus the current 4.5.....ML -210 is even reasonable for the vaginas out there.......Manning and company aren't losing this one, and the line will very likely not be in play
As you guys go to work this week - tell me if you dont hear this conversation - you know - from the moron football fans at your work....
"The colts will kill the Saints. WIthout that coinflip, they would have lost to the vikings with 5 turnovers!! The saints only had like 280 yards!!"
I pretty much pissed myself when I read this. I hear this each and every week living in Las Vegas. I can't go anywhere, without hearing "water cooler talk".
Van, I really don't see any value from a side perspective in this Super Bowl. I mean we can't get a double digit worthy dog like the Giants two years ago. There just seems to be alot of variables this year.
I can make a case for each teams on both sides of the ball, including special teams.
I will be more interested in this total. The Colts will gameplan this one to keep the Saints off the field. These teams can really chew up the clock with some time consuming drives.
I see alot of value in the under in this one.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
As you guys go to work this week - tell me if you dont hear this conversation - you know - from the moron football fans at your work....
"The colts will kill the Saints. WIthout that coinflip, they would have lost to the vikings with 5 turnovers!! The saints only had like 280 yards!!"
I pretty much pissed myself when I read this. I hear this each and every week living in Las Vegas. I can't go anywhere, without hearing "water cooler talk".
Van, I really don't see any value from a side perspective in this Super Bowl. I mean we can't get a double digit worthy dog like the Giants two years ago. There just seems to be alot of variables this year.
I can make a case for each teams on both sides of the ball, including special teams.
I will be more interested in this total. The Colts will gameplan this one to keep the Saints off the field. These teams can really chew up the clock with some time consuming drives.
how about this....you'd be a fucking moron not to take the Colts minus the current 4.5.....ML -210 is even reasonable for the vaginas out there.......Manning and company aren't losing this one, and the line will very likely not be in play
Super.
Already, you are a moron for betting the saints.
Very productive.
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Quote Originally Posted by ICAPSports:
how about this....you'd be a fucking moron not to take the Colts minus the current 4.5.....ML -210 is even reasonable for the vaginas out there.......Manning and company aren't losing this one, and the line will very likely not be in play
Don't forget we get to hear from the great ESPN, for two straight weeks starting, well right now, that the Saints were outgained, outplayed, and are lucky to be here.
Can they force 5 turnovers against the Colts? Highly unlikely. Both teams will be off the fast track of their domed stadium. The Colts just faced Mark Sanchez and Joe Flacco in their home stadium.
The Colts "playoff defense" over the past few years just seems to bend but not break. Their speed is extremely underated and will be the difference in this game.
I almost see the under 55.5 and even the first half under very reasonable.
Remember the Saints in their very first Super Bowl, say what you want will have some nerves on offense.
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Don't forget we get to hear from the great ESPN, for two straight weeks starting, well right now, that the Saints were outgained, outplayed, and are lucky to be here.
Can they force 5 turnovers against the Colts? Highly unlikely. Both teams will be off the fast track of their domed stadium. The Colts just faced Mark Sanchez and Joe Flacco in their home stadium.
The Colts "playoff defense" over the past few years just seems to bend but not break. Their speed is extremely underated and will be the difference in this game.
I almost see the under 55.5 and even the first half under very reasonable.
Remember the Saints in their very first Super Bowl, say what you want will have some nerves on offense.
Don't forget we get to hear from the great ESPN, for two straight weeks starting, well right now, that the Saints were outgained, outplayed, and are lucky to be here.
Can they force 5 turnovers against the Colts? Highly unlikely. Both teams will be off the fast track of their domed stadium. The Colts just faced Mark Sanchez and Joe Flacco in their home stadium.
The Colts "playoff defense" over the past few years just seems to bend but not break. Their speed is extremely underated and will be the difference in this game.
I almost see the under 55.5 and even the first half under very reasonable.
Remember the Saints in their very first Super Bowl, say what you want will have some nerves on offense.
Didn't bother the Cardinals, Panthers or Giants in their SBs for the first time...they all might not have won, but covered the number.
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Quote Originally Posted by t6rider:
Don't forget we get to hear from the great ESPN, for two straight weeks starting, well right now, that the Saints were outgained, outplayed, and are lucky to be here.
Can they force 5 turnovers against the Colts? Highly unlikely. Both teams will be off the fast track of their domed stadium. The Colts just faced Mark Sanchez and Joe Flacco in their home stadium.
The Colts "playoff defense" over the past few years just seems to bend but not break. Their speed is extremely underated and will be the difference in this game.
I almost see the under 55.5 and even the first half under very reasonable.
Remember the Saints in their very first Super Bowl, say what you want will have some nerves on offense.
Didn't bother the Cardinals, Panthers or Giants in their SBs for the first time...they all might not have won, but covered the number.
As a Saints fan, biases aside, you couldnt ask for a better setup in regard to the line. I love the Saints chancs straightup here and I believe anything, and I mean anything over 3 gives Saints bettors an edge.
Should be a lot of overreacting and overvalue on the Colts today. A great team indeed but lets not forget who they've faced, and where they've played in January to get to Miami.
Saints wont need points but imo over a fg for Brees and Offense coming off worst game of the year is a gift.
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Van: Always love and appreciate your analyses
As a Saints fan, biases aside, you couldnt ask for a better setup in regard to the line. I love the Saints chancs straightup here and I believe anything, and I mean anything over 3 gives Saints bettors an edge.
Should be a lot of overreacting and overvalue on the Colts today. A great team indeed but lets not forget who they've faced, and where they've played in January to get to Miami.
Saints wont need points but imo over a fg for Brees and Offense coming off worst game of the year is a gift.
Oh, and Pierre Garcon UNDER 75 yards or whatever retarded number they hang up for him. I'm sure they'll be a hefty overreaction to his performance today, which was mainly due to the fact that Manning didn't even bother looking to Revis's side the entire game.
the flip of this bet is the over for Wayne as Manning goes back to the man!
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Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete21:
Oh, and Pierre Garcon UNDER 75 yards or whatever retarded number they hang up for him. I'm sure they'll be a hefty overreaction to his performance today, which was mainly due to the fact that Manning didn't even bother looking to Revis's side the entire game.
the flip of this bet is the over for Wayne as Manning goes back to the man!
just take dallas clark over 60-65 receiving yards, whichever prop you can get. reggie wayne will receive double coverage most of the game and now garcon will get a lot of attention. manning will put the ball in clark's hands over and over again in this game. i took v.schiancoe over 39 receiving yards today and he covered that in 1 drive. the saints DO NOT play good/elite tight ends well.....dallas clark is in the top 3 tight ends in the league
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just take dallas clark over 60-65 receiving yards, whichever prop you can get. reggie wayne will receive double coverage most of the game and now garcon will get a lot of attention. manning will put the ball in clark's hands over and over again in this game. i took v.schiancoe over 39 receiving yards today and he covered that in 1 drive. the saints DO NOT play good/elite tight ends well.....dallas clark is in the top 3 tight ends in the league
I am going to bet the Aints in the first half and Reggie Wayne. That 5.5 line is very bad Karma. Hate those 4-7 lines especially in the biggest game of the year.
Manning not equal to Favre and the Colts line not equal to that Minny line.
The aints D is predicated on getting the turnover but this Colt team with no AP or Harvin. The Colts may hang 40 on em.
Crash-
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I am going to bet the Aints in the first half and Reggie Wayne. That 5.5 line is very bad Karma. Hate those 4-7 lines especially in the biggest game of the year.
Manning not equal to Favre and the Colts line not equal to that Minny line.
The aints D is predicated on getting the turnover but this Colt team with no AP or Harvin. The Colts may hang 40 on em.
As a Saints fan, biases aside, you couldnt ask for a better setup in regard to the line. I love the Saints chancs straightup here and I believe anything, and I mean anything over 3 gives Saints bettors an edge.
Should be a lot of overreacting and overvalue on the Colts today. A great team indeed but lets not forget who they've faced, and where they've played in January to get to Miami.
Saints wont need points but imo over a fg for Brees and Offense coming off worst game of the year is a gift.
Dude, did you just watch that game? Saints DID not deserve to win that game much less stay within 10 points and you come on here and say SAINTS win SU. What are you smokin?
I love the LOVABLE hard luck Saints story, first timers, Katrina comeback b.s...the list goes on.. BUT get "REAL," COLTS will beat the "greeeeeen" n.o. aints BUTTS come 2/7/10. PEYTON will not LOSE this game, no fricken way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good luck.......
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Quote Originally Posted by BigPimpin:
Van: Always love and appreciate your analyses
As a Saints fan, biases aside, you couldnt ask for a better setup in regard to the line. I love the Saints chancs straightup here and I believe anything, and I mean anything over 3 gives Saints bettors an edge.
Should be a lot of overreacting and overvalue on the Colts today. A great team indeed but lets not forget who they've faced, and where they've played in January to get to Miami.
Saints wont need points but imo over a fg for Brees and Offense coming off worst game of the year is a gift.
Dude, did you just watch that game? Saints DID not deserve to win that game much less stay within 10 points and you come on here and say SAINTS win SU. What are you smokin?
I love the LOVABLE hard luck Saints story, first timers, Katrina comeback b.s...the list goes on.. BUT get "REAL," COLTS will beat the "greeeeeen" n.o. aints BUTTS come 2/7/10. PEYTON will not LOSE this game, no fricken way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good luck.......
Sports betting is my favorite thing but some of you guys just seem to be sucking the fun out of it. I love discussing some details but I HATE when some dicks always try to feel superior.
Did you ever consider the betting public consists of casual bettors like most of us here? What else would the public go on other than what they just saw in the games or watching ESPN? Not everyone has Donnie Ducks Lips from Reno giving them the inside scoop. Coming in here to discuss if the SuperBowl shoulda opened at 4.5 or 5 is so silly.
I love reading guys who claim to be professional gamblers with six figures in their betting accounts telling it like they have inside info & calling everyone who disagrees with them a moron. Thats pretty childish and to me a pro gambler wouldn't give a shit about posting in a covers forum which is why I'm here.
It doesn't matter who faced which QB in the regular season cause you can go back & forth all day with that type of arguement. So what if the Saints faced better QBs than the Colts? The Saints lost to Tampa Bay at home!! Does that have any impact on this game; of course not.
Just take the game for what it is--the here & now. Manning is the better QB and has been there before. Brees was throwing cheeseburgers to Henderson in the 4th qtr.
I don't get how betting on the Colts is a moronic play. Betting on the best team!?!? That BONANAS! I'm taking the Colts -4, -5, -6, -7 and I'ma put some on the money line. If they lose big deal, I'll be checking the lines the next day.
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Sports betting is my favorite thing but some of you guys just seem to be sucking the fun out of it. I love discussing some details but I HATE when some dicks always try to feel superior.
Did you ever consider the betting public consists of casual bettors like most of us here? What else would the public go on other than what they just saw in the games or watching ESPN? Not everyone has Donnie Ducks Lips from Reno giving them the inside scoop. Coming in here to discuss if the SuperBowl shoulda opened at 4.5 or 5 is so silly.
I love reading guys who claim to be professional gamblers with six figures in their betting accounts telling it like they have inside info & calling everyone who disagrees with them a moron. Thats pretty childish and to me a pro gambler wouldn't give a shit about posting in a covers forum which is why I'm here.
It doesn't matter who faced which QB in the regular season cause you can go back & forth all day with that type of arguement. So what if the Saints faced better QBs than the Colts? The Saints lost to Tampa Bay at home!! Does that have any impact on this game; of course not.
Just take the game for what it is--the here & now. Manning is the better QB and has been there before. Brees was throwing cheeseburgers to Henderson in the 4th qtr.
I don't get how betting on the Colts is a moronic play. Betting on the best team!?!? That BONANAS! I'm taking the Colts -4, -5, -6, -7 and I'ma put some on the money line. If they lose big deal, I'll be checking the lines the next day.
Saints had a good game and some good luck. The colts will beat em and cover by 7 . Viks did not score three times and allowed them to hang in there. Im in LA. great win but colts will handle biz... gl all
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Saints had a good game and some good luck. The colts will beat em and cover by 7 . Viks did not score three times and allowed them to hang in there. Im in LA. great win but colts will handle biz... gl all
Sports betting is my favorite thing but some of you guys just seem to be sucking the fun out of it. I love discussing some details but I HATE when some dicks always try to feel superior.
I love reading guys who claim to be professional gamblers with six figures in their betting accounts telling it like they have inside info & calling everyone who disagrees with them a moron.
Just take the game for what it is--the here & now. Manning is the better QB and has been there before. Brees was throwing cheeseburgers to Henderson in the 4th qtr.
I don't get how betting on the Colts is a moronic play. Betting on the best team!?!? That BONANAS! I'm taking the Colts -4, -5, -6, -7 and I'ma put some on the money line. If they lose big deal, I'll be checking the lines the next day.
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Quote Originally Posted by MikeyFingers:
Sports betting is my favorite thing but some of you guys just seem to be sucking the fun out of it. I love discussing some details but I HATE when some dicks always try to feel superior.
I love reading guys who claim to be professional gamblers with six figures in their betting accounts telling it like they have inside info & calling everyone who disagrees with them a moron.
Just take the game for what it is--the here & now. Manning is the better QB and has been there before. Brees was throwing cheeseburgers to Henderson in the 4th qtr.
I don't get how betting on the Colts is a moronic play. Betting on the best team!?!? That BONANAS! I'm taking the Colts -4, -5, -6, -7 and I'ma put some on the money line. If they lose big deal, I'll be checking the lines the next day.
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