Not getting hostile...I'm just a big advocate for opening people's eyes to what they are doing. IMO buying points for 1 is a waste of money is JUST BUYING PIECE OF MIND in a pick that you don't have much faith in. #2, if you are buying points...bottom line...it is NOT a strong play.
I've posted PURE STATS on how buying points in College Basketball is a waste of money and will again do it when I get time this year. I have NOT done any statistical research in football because the point values are NOT LINEAR like in basketball (1 pt, 2 pt, 3pt) where football has values of mainly 3 and 7.
I'm always a fan of opening eyes to Beating the Books.
Best of Luck with Luck...I'm with you on Indy!
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Not getting hostile...I'm just a big advocate for opening people's eyes to what they are doing. IMO buying points for 1 is a waste of money is JUST BUYING PIECE OF MIND in a pick that you don't have much faith in. #2, if you are buying points...bottom line...it is NOT a strong play.
I've posted PURE STATS on how buying points in College Basketball is a waste of money and will again do it when I get time this year. I have NOT done any statistical research in football because the point values are NOT LINEAR like in basketball (1 pt, 2 pt, 3pt) where football has values of mainly 3 and 7.
I'm always a fan of opening eyes to Beating the Books.
Not getting hostile...I'm just a big advocate for opening people's eyes to what they are doing. IMO buying points for 1 is a waste of money is JUST BUYING PIECE OF MIND in a pick that you don't have much faith in. #2, if you are buying points...bottom line...it is NOT a strong play.
I've posted PURE STATS on how buying points in College Basketball is a waste of money and will again do it when I get time this year. I have NOT done any statistical research in football because the point values are NOT LINEAR like in basketball (1 pt, 2 pt, 3pt) where football has values of mainly 3 and 7.
I'm always a fan of opening eyes to Beating the Books.
Best of Luck with Luck...I'm with you on Indy!
How is buying a point waste of money. If Baltimore won buy touchdown, then cashohalic still win and not push. There nothing wrong with buying points. I don't see nothing wrong.
Good luck cash I'm on Indi too
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Quote Originally Posted by TexasD:
Not getting hostile...I'm just a big advocate for opening people's eyes to what they are doing. IMO buying points for 1 is a waste of money is JUST BUYING PIECE OF MIND in a pick that you don't have much faith in. #2, if you are buying points...bottom line...it is NOT a strong play.
I've posted PURE STATS on how buying points in College Basketball is a waste of money and will again do it when I get time this year. I have NOT done any statistical research in football because the point values are NOT LINEAR like in basketball (1 pt, 2 pt, 3pt) where football has values of mainly 3 and 7.
I'm always a fan of opening eyes to Beating the Books.
Best of Luck with Luck...I'm with you on Indy!
How is buying a point waste of money. If Baltimore won buy touchdown, then cashohalic still win and not push. There nothing wrong with buying points. I don't see nothing wrong.
Not getting hostile...I'm just a big advocate for opening people's eyes to what they are doing. IMO buying points for 1 is a waste of money is JUST BUYING PIECE OF MIND in a pick that you don't have much faith in. #2, if you are buying points...bottom line...it is NOT a strong play.
I've posted PURE STATS on how buying points in College Basketball is a waste of money and will again do it when I get time this year. I have NOT done any statistical research in football because the point values are NOT LINEAR like in basketball (1 pt, 2 pt, 3pt) where football has values of mainly 3 and 7.
I'm always a fan of opening eyes to Beating the Books.
Best of Luck with Luck...I'm with you on Indy!
You want to know how many bets I won by buying a a half a point ...more than I have lost ....that half a point comes in handy sometimes ....I've seen it all bro ....I also slapped 1 unit on Indy ml
I mean seriously parlays are a sucker bet
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Quote Originally Posted by TexasD:
Not getting hostile...I'm just a big advocate for opening people's eyes to what they are doing. IMO buying points for 1 is a waste of money is JUST BUYING PIECE OF MIND in a pick that you don't have much faith in. #2, if you are buying points...bottom line...it is NOT a strong play.
I've posted PURE STATS on how buying points in College Basketball is a waste of money and will again do it when I get time this year. I have NOT done any statistical research in football because the point values are NOT LINEAR like in basketball (1 pt, 2 pt, 3pt) where football has values of mainly 3 and 7.
I'm always a fan of opening eyes to Beating the Books.
Best of Luck with Luck...I'm with you on Indy!
You want to know how many bets I won by buying a a half a point ...more than I have lost ....that half a point comes in handy sometimes ....I've seen it all bro ....I also slapped 1 unit on Indy ml
1. I agree with Indy Owns Baltimore BECAUSE OF PEYTON MANNING. 2. Indy winning over Baltimore does NOT guarantee a Manning/Colts matchup. 3. BOTTOM LINE: YOUR PLAY IS WEEK BECAUSE YOU BOUGHT A HALF A POINT. IF :YOU THOUGHT THE SPREAD WAS A STRONG BET, YOU WOULDNT HAVE BOUGHT A POINT. YOU ARE BUYING A HALF A POINT AND BANKING ON THE COLTS LOSSING BY A TD.
Colts +260 and Washington +130 parlayed together for a 7 to 1 payout is my play.
Ummm... yes it does
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Quote Originally Posted by TexasD:
1. I agree with Indy Owns Baltimore BECAUSE OF PEYTON MANNING. 2. Indy winning over Baltimore does NOT guarantee a Manning/Colts matchup. 3. BOTTOM LINE: YOUR PLAY IS WEEK BECAUSE YOU BOUGHT A HALF A POINT. IF :YOU THOUGHT THE SPREAD WAS A STRONG BET, YOU WOULDNT HAVE BOUGHT A POINT. YOU ARE BUYING A HALF A POINT AND BANKING ON THE COLTS LOSSING BY A TD.
Colts +260 and Washington +130 parlayed together for a 7 to 1 payout is my play.
I'm going Indy here also. ML and I took the 7+ on a friendly wager.
Indy isn't great by any means and I am not sold on Luck just yet. He's thrown a bunch of picks this year and IMO a little overrated.
Still with that being said, Indy has been playing in a bunch of close ones this year and Ravens haven't neccesarily been blowing anyone out - minus a horrible Oakland Team.
This one is going to be close, trust me! I like the +7 over the ML though.
Overrated? This was the worst football team last year and this "overrated" rookie led them to the playoffs. Smh
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Quote Originally Posted by MikeTheKnight:
I'm going Indy here also. ML and I took the 7+ on a friendly wager.
Indy isn't great by any means and I am not sold on Luck just yet. He's thrown a bunch of picks this year and IMO a little overrated.
Still with that being said, Indy has been playing in a bunch of close ones this year and Ravens haven't neccesarily been blowing anyone out - minus a horrible Oakland Team.
This one is going to be close, trust me! I like the +7 over the ML though.
Overrated? This was the worst football team last year and this "overrated" rookie led them to the playoffs. Smh
Pho20...to see how point buying is a waste, you have to keep track of YOUR bets. I can't tell you how it is bad for YOU...I don't know your bets.
BUT on average, in college basketball, it does does NOT pay. I'll be posting a new thread on it soon in the college basketball forum when I have the time to do the research. Keep an eye out for it if you wanna see the complete stats.
As I said, I have NOT fone statistical data on point buying in football due to the point values not being LINEAR as scores move mainly by 3 and 7. I is WAY more complicated in the research and even more confusing to explain.
The basics of it is YES, that 1/2 point that you may buy from time to time will ONLY WIN YOU MONEY instead of just PUSH at a LOW PERCENTAGE of times. The rest of the HIGH PERCENTAGE that that 1/2 point did NOT matter compared to just taking the regular line (+7 in this case) you are either LOSSING MORE MONEY, or WINNJNG LESS MONEY...BOTH TO THE CASINO/BOOK/VEGAS' advantage.
Do you really think they would be dumb enough to offer point buying if it were to the PLAYER'S ADVANTAGE.
TRUST ME...POINT BUYING IS A WASTE OF MONEY AND YOUR SPORTS BOOK LOVES YOU FOR YOUR ADDED DONATIONS.
And point #2: If you REALLY needed to buy points, you are either buying them for piece of mind to make you feel less nervous during the game or your PICK IS WEAK.
Not trying to step on anybody's toes by saying all this...but really? Indy +7 and you think they are going to LOSE? Why not just stay away from the game if you think it's going to be a close game and you may only cover by....0 points. 0 points on the +7 push...BUT you bought the hook that WON'T EVEN MATTER TODAY.
The only way if matters is if the small percentage that the game ends exactly at Indy losing by 7...otherwise you are just LOSING MORE MONEY or WINNING LESS MONEY.
I'm saying this in a friendly way:
HAVE SOME BALLS and take the +7 which has the LEAST AMOUNT OF VIG/TAX/JUICE on it. SHOW SOME FAITH IN YOUR CAPPING ABILITIES/RESEARCH/ANALYSIS. Don't bet if you think you are only going to cover by a few points. If you bet all the time, you are what people call a degenerate and you are NOT betting to MAKE MONEY...you are betting for entertainment or a gambling addiction...BOTH OF WHICH ARE NOT FREE HABITS.
DO YOU BUY OR MAKE?
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Pho20...to see how point buying is a waste, you have to keep track of YOUR bets. I can't tell you how it is bad for YOU...I don't know your bets.
BUT on average, in college basketball, it does does NOT pay. I'll be posting a new thread on it soon in the college basketball forum when I have the time to do the research. Keep an eye out for it if you wanna see the complete stats.
As I said, I have NOT fone statistical data on point buying in football due to the point values not being LINEAR as scores move mainly by 3 and 7. I is WAY more complicated in the research and even more confusing to explain.
The basics of it is YES, that 1/2 point that you may buy from time to time will ONLY WIN YOU MONEY instead of just PUSH at a LOW PERCENTAGE of times. The rest of the HIGH PERCENTAGE that that 1/2 point did NOT matter compared to just taking the regular line (+7 in this case) you are either LOSSING MORE MONEY, or WINNJNG LESS MONEY...BOTH TO THE CASINO/BOOK/VEGAS' advantage.
Do you really think they would be dumb enough to offer point buying if it were to the PLAYER'S ADVANTAGE.
TRUST ME...POINT BUYING IS A WASTE OF MONEY AND YOUR SPORTS BOOK LOVES YOU FOR YOUR ADDED DONATIONS.
And point #2: If you REALLY needed to buy points, you are either buying them for piece of mind to make you feel less nervous during the game or your PICK IS WEAK.
Not trying to step on anybody's toes by saying all this...but really? Indy +7 and you think they are going to LOSE? Why not just stay away from the game if you think it's going to be a close game and you may only cover by....0 points. 0 points on the +7 push...BUT you bought the hook that WON'T EVEN MATTER TODAY.
The only way if matters is if the small percentage that the game ends exactly at Indy losing by 7...otherwise you are just LOSING MORE MONEY or WINNING LESS MONEY.
I'm saying this in a friendly way:
HAVE SOME BALLS and take the +7 which has the LEAST AMOUNT OF VIG/TAX/JUICE on it. SHOW SOME FAITH IN YOUR CAPPING ABILITIES/RESEARCH/ANALYSIS. Don't bet if you think you are only going to cover by a few points. If you bet all the time, you are what people call a degenerate and you are NOT betting to MAKE MONEY...you are betting for entertainment or a gambling addiction...BOTH OF WHICH ARE NOT FREE HABITS.
Scsiegel...yeh I was gonna call myself out on that one...I tried finding a NFL Playoff Bracket and couldn't find one ANYWHERE...so then I tried to figure out who would play who if which teams one and some how I mixed the teams of the AFC AND NFC and was under the impression that to get the Indy/Denver matchup, Seattle had to lose because they were the 6 seed below Indy....obviously Seattle and Indy aren't even in the same conference...but yes, I did get confused for a second there.
Best of luck
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Scsiegel...yeh I was gonna call myself out on that one...I tried finding a NFL Playoff Bracket and couldn't find one ANYWHERE...so then I tried to figure out who would play who if which teams one and some how I mixed the teams of the AFC AND NFC and was under the impression that to get the Indy/Denver matchup, Seattle had to lose because they were the 6 seed below Indy....obviously Seattle and Indy aren't even in the same conference...but yes, I did get confused for a second there.
in wild card games, the winner covers almost always. in 3 times since 2003 when the dog lost but covered, the game was won by less than a TD. so while buying the hook might be nice, you're much better off playing the ML if you think Indy is the play. maximize your winnings
good luck
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in wild card games, the winner covers almost always. in 3 times since 2003 when the dog lost but covered, the game was won by less than a TD. so while buying the hook might be nice, you're much better off playing the ML if you think Indy is the play. maximize your winnings
" You want to know how many bets I won by buying a a half a point ...more than I have lost ....that half a point comes in handy sometimes ....I've seen it all bro ....I also slapped 1 unit on Indy ml"
Cash, u missing it, you say you WIN MORE BETS THAN YOU LOSE WHEN YOU BUY A 1/2 point. I understand that...then you say BUYING THE 1/2 POINT COMES IN HANDY SOMETIMES.
The COMES IN HANDY is the 10% of the time the game ends EXACTLY at the original line (+7 in this case). THE OTHER 90% OF THE TIMES YOU BOUGHT THE 1/2 POINT, YOU WOULD HAVE LOST OR WON REGARDLESS OF THE 1/2 POINT....BUT NOW DURING THAT 90% OF THOSE TIMES, YOU LOST MORE MONEY OR YOU WON LESS MONEY.
Compare the money that you WON during the 10% of the time the 1/2 points MATTERED (won instead of pushed) to the 90% of the time you LOST MORE MONEY or WON LESS MONEY.
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" You want to know how many bets I won by buying a a half a point ...more than I have lost ....that half a point comes in handy sometimes ....I've seen it all bro ....I also slapped 1 unit on Indy ml"
Cash, u missing it, you say you WIN MORE BETS THAN YOU LOSE WHEN YOU BUY A 1/2 point. I understand that...then you say BUYING THE 1/2 POINT COMES IN HANDY SOMETIMES.
The COMES IN HANDY is the 10% of the time the game ends EXACTLY at the original line (+7 in this case). THE OTHER 90% OF THE TIMES YOU BOUGHT THE 1/2 POINT, YOU WOULD HAVE LOST OR WON REGARDLESS OF THE 1/2 POINT....BUT NOW DURING THAT 90% OF THOSE TIMES, YOU LOST MORE MONEY OR YOU WON LESS MONEY.
Compare the money that you WON during the 10% of the time the 1/2 points MATTERED (won instead of pushed) to the 90% of the time you LOST MORE MONEY or WON LESS MONEY.
Do as you please ...some of you ave taken it personal
Shows how some people let their emotions get the best of them
Don't bet with your heart ...bet with your head
Colts didn't play Ravens in the regular season. I like Ravens in this spot. Their defense will be better by getting Pollard and Lewis back. One player makes a huge difference in Nfl.
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Quote Originally Posted by cashaholic:
Just think about it guys
Indy was dogged in regular season by 16 to bmore
And covered
Playoffs will be a tighter match up
The +7.5 looks lovely to me
Do as you please ...some of you ave taken it personal
Shows how some people let their emotions get the best of them
Don't bet with your heart ...bet with your head
Colts didn't play Ravens in the regular season. I like Ravens in this spot. Their defense will be better by getting Pollard and Lewis back. One player makes a huge difference in Nfl.
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