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BTW those career record stats are worthless........
 
Cutler led the 2nd best offense supported by the 30th ranked D
 
Orton led the 30th ranked offense with a D that was top 6 in yds per in every stat and 2nd in turnovers....easy to win when you get the ball in the red zone off a TO or have the best punt return man in the NFL....
 
How can you argue with those stats?Try these instead......
 
Cutler 10k yds....60 tds........42 ints..62% comp...83 career rating
 
Orton 6k yds......33tds........27 ints.....55% comp....73 qb rating
 
to be fair Cutler had 300 more atts.........but still completed a better %..............
 
Yeah Cutler sucks
 
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Mcdaniels did the right thing.. Cutler is a head case.. its exactly what Denver needs this year is a game manager. The defense is going to carry the load this year. Its not about Orton all he has to do is not mess up. I dont know why you guys are talking about?
Cutlers record as a starter in college and the pros is a whopping 28 wins against 54 losses!!
 
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As far as the issue of how many posts the one guy has, how does this pertain to anything?  Unless there is a way to track the quality or accuracy of some posts.  It's a moot point, cause some people also don't feel the need to post on anything.  This was a topic I really liked, so I posted, and you had a moronic respose, so I posed.  I know from experience unless I get in early on a thread, someone basically has already made the same observation. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scho525:

As far as the issue of how many posts the one guy has, how does this pertain to anything?  Unless there is a way to track the quality or accuracy of some posts.  It's a moot point, cause some people also don't feel the need to post on anything.  This was a topic I really liked, so I posted, and you had a moronic respose, so I posed.  I know from experience unless I get in early on a thread, someone basically has already made the same observation. 


If you noticed, I said JOIN DATE and POSTS together... 

Now, if you read between the lines... Kidvegas joined just this past week and started posting only things pertaining to Denver. 

So, Kidvegas probably had or has another account and just started this one to go incognito.  Meaning, that if he did lose the bet, I would never see my money...ever...

Get it now?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by kidvegas03:

buck
 
Mcdaniels did the right thing.. Cutler is a head case.. its exactly what Denver needs this year is a game manager. The defense is going to carry the load this year. Its not about Orton all he has to do is not mess up. I dont know why you guys are talking about?
Cutlers record as a starter in college and the pros is a whopping 28 wins against 54 losses!!


Does it really matter what his college W/L record was?   He played for Vandy, where he was the first player from that school to win SEC POY since the '60's.

BTW Jake Locker's record with the Washington Huskies is 6-23, yet he may be the first QB selected when he goes into the NFL draft.  

W/L record of a player's college team doesn't always matter.   Just ask Brian Bosworth  
 
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Kyle Orton
 
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Quote Originally Posted by talent888:



If you noticed, I said JOIN DATE and POSTS together... 

Now, if you read between the lines... Kidvegas joined just this past week and started posting only things pertaining to Denver. 

So, Kidvegas probably had or has another account and just started this one to go incognito.  Meaning, that if he did lose the bet, I would never see my money...ever...

Get it now?

Im only posting things pertaining to Denver because that team is going to make me money this year. I dont have another account Im here to weigh in like everyone else. If you want the bet lets go, Im gonna pay up if I lose. Will U?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit:



Does it really matter what his college W/L record was?   He played for Vandy, where he was the first player from that school to win SEC POY since the '60's.

BTW Jake Locker's record with the Washington Huskies is 6-23, yet he may be the first QB selected when he goes into the NFL draft.  

W/L record of a player's college team doesn't always matter.   Just ask Brian Bosworth  

BIscuit

You get a big Child Please for that post.

 
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this is from a broncos fan so i know both of these guys pretty well. especially CUTLER. i like KYLE but if we had cutler right now they would be talking about us being superbowl bound. with the way nolan turned the D around. we are struggeling on offense right now. with cutler we were #2 so as far as the postion goes i would take cutler but as far a a leader goes i will stick with KYLE.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by talent888:



Are you serious?    I will bet you any amount of money that Cutler has a better winning % this year....

Just name the amount...

Well, I do this bet with my friend every year. $20 a game, Brocos v Bears. Last year, you know what? I owed him money. Bears had a better record than Denver.

 

So I accept. what is the amount? how about $1000 per game?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit:

Jay Cutler 17-20 Career Record
                
Kyle Orton 21-12 Career Record


That was before the season started

currently

Orton is 24-12
Cutler is 19-21

won/loss record has a lot to do with what team you're on

I like Orton, but Cutler is clearly the better QB







SO it has nothing to do with the QB? Funny cause everyone and their mom's aither blame the qb or praise the qb.

And why is it every great team has a very good QB?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by pjswinnas:

YOUR A COMPLETE IDIOT!!! ORTON PLAYED WITH GREAT D AND SPECIAL TEAMS AND RUN GAME HE FCKING SUCKS!! THEY BEAT BENGIRLS LUCK PLAY BROWNS AT HOME AND RAIDERS WOW!!! CUTLER PLAYED WITH DENVER AND HAD TO SCORE 50 TO WIN WITH THAT DEFENSE!!! ILL TAKE CUTLER ANY DAY

Whatever keyboard warrior! Hope your knuckles don't hurt after all those caps.

SO if I am a complete fuckign idiot, why did Orton lead his team to more victories than Cutler?

You are a complete idiot because you use all CAPS.

SO WIn Loss Record means nothing. You are a tool and no one here takes you seriously.

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Slumpbusting:

If win percentage is the ONLY stat to look at when it comes to QB's then why is Vince Young still a back up with a 19-11 career record.
 
The QB postition is so much more than just looking at one single stat or attribute, cuz when you look at all the good ones, (such as Brady, Manning, or Brees) there isn't just one thing that makes them good, its everything they do that makes them good.

Seriously?

VY was Suicidal. And you think he should start in teh NFL? how about getting your life together.

And Colin Cowherd makes a great point that the most prolific qbs in the league today went to non D I powerhouses.

They only record a great qb should care about is  W's? You think troy aikmen or terry bradshaw care about numbers? yeah, the number of rings lining their fingers. that is why they are in th booth now.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by bucknuts:

Quote Originally Posted by Slumpbusting:

If win percentage is the ONLY stat to look at when it comes to QB's then why is Vince Young still a back up with a 19-11 career record.
 

Kyle Orton man crush takes one on the chin Sunday...watch what Kyle does with some pressure in his face.......im a fan but Cutler hands down the better QB

Why wouldnt Cutler pout after leading the 2nd best offense in the league and sitting at home for the playoffs....then a new coach comes in and lies about the off coord and the fact hes being shopped around?Did you guys eat paint chips as kids or what???

Chi would be lucky to be 1-2 right now if Orton was still there...Forte is gimpy so no 10 check down passes per game...Orton is a game manager at best and Denver is one tipped ball away from the same record as Chi having faced the easiest part of the sched.....the party is over

 

 

Yeah, He is a me guy, not a team player. and by the way, it is a business, not fucking little leauge. I never said Orton was a physicaly better player, just a proven winner. Everyone has a perception, but they don't even see reality.

And i think chicago would be 0-3 without Cutler because Chicago just plain sucks. No WR, No secondary, No running game. But I forgot it is only the 3rd game, they will get it on track around week 14 when they are already mathematically eliminated.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by bucknuts:

BTW those career record stats are worthless........
 
Cutler led the 2nd best offense supported by the 30th ranked D
 
Orton led the 30th ranked offense with a D that was top 6 in yds per in every stat and 2nd in turnovers....easy to win when you get the ball in the red zone off a TO or have the best punt return man in the NFL....
 
How can you argue with those stats?Try these instead......
 
Cutler 10k yds....60 tds........42 ints..62% comp...83 career rating
 
Orton 6k yds......33tds........27 ints.....55% comp....73 qb rating
 
to be fair Cutler had 300 more atts.........but still completed a better %..............
 
Yeah Cutler sucks

Please find a post that I said Cutler sucked? I just said the proof is in the pudding. I guess you wuld rather have flashy stats than W's, ask Dan Marino how that feels. I will say this Orton will have a better ecord than Cutler for their entire careers. When CUtler get hit in the neck, he cries about it. I know fellas, I am a Denver fan. I go by what I see, not by what I read.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by talent888:



If you noticed, I said JOIN DATE and POSTS together... 

Now, if you read between the lines... Kidvegas joined just this past week and started posting only things pertaining to Denver. 

So, Kidvegas probably had or has another account and just started this one to go incognito.  Meaning, that if he did lose the bet, I would never see my money...ever...

Get it now?

Then why propose the bet? did you not see that BEFORE you opened your pie hole?

How about my 12K + Post?

 

You wanna GO?

$100 the Broncos have a better record than the Bears at the end of the regular season, but in the event a of a tie, since you are so sure it won't be close, I win.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit:



Does it really matter what his college W/L record was?   He played for Vandy, where he was the first player from that school to win SEC POY since the '60's.

BTW Jake Locker's record with the Washington Huskies is 6-23, yet he may be the first QB selected when he goes into the NFL draft.  

W/L record of a player's college team doesn't always matter.   Just ask Brian Bosworth  

Did the BOz play QB? Winning is a habit, if not formed early, you will never get it, just ask Tony Romo!

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Serb89:

Kyle Orton

We get your point..........   all week

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Quote Originally Posted by talent888:



Are you serious?    I will bet you any amount of money that Cutler has a better winning % this year....

Just name the amount...


NONEED4LUCK - I know its hard for you to get it sometimes... But above is what I said... I will bet YOU...see the YOU in there?  Again...  I will bet YOU any amount of money...

Not, I will bet ANYONE.. 

The reason why I would be YOU and not just anyone is because you have been here for a while and are a very active poster...So, I would have a better chance of you paying up...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by talent888:



NONEED4LUCK - I know its hard for you to get it sometimes... But above is what I said... I will bet YOU...see the YOU in there?  Again...  I will bet YOU any amount of money...

Not, I will bet ANYONE.. 

The reason why I would be YOU and not just anyone is because you have been here for a while and are a very active poster...So, I would have a better chance of you paying up...

 

Don't do it to yourself.  Cutler is a bad QB.   Im not saying Orton is that great, but he can manage a game better than Cutler.  Cutler has a bad case of brain farts......

 
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Who have you guys played that is actually good start talking if you guys beat dallas....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BigFrank420:

Who have you guys played that is actually good start talking if you guys beat dallas....

Dallas doesn't even qualify as a good team

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Bruuuuce78:

Dallas doesn't even qualify as a good team


Good point....
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by talent888:



NONEED4LUCK - I know its hard for you to get it sometimes... But above is what I said... I will bet YOU...see the YOU in there?  Again...  I will bet YOU any amount of money...

Not, I will bet ANYONE.. 

The reason why I would be YOU and not just anyone is because you have been here for a while and are a very active poster...So, I would have a better chance of you paying up...

Talent

you will see this year, Broncos will make the playoffs. The limited amounts of posts I have is a bad excuse for not taking my 100 dollar bet.

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