Not sure that Doc is overrated he is just fine at what he does. He draws good inbound plays and seems to be a great player coach but fiddles ways too much with line-ups
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Not sure that Doc is overrated he is just fine at what he does. He draws good inbound plays and seems to be a great player coach but fiddles ways too much with line-ups
The Cavs have a huge rebounding advantage. Their bench is better, and they have home court. If James is healthy, they should have no problem with the Celtics.
Let's see how this "disrespected" team fares against a championship team, not the garbage Miami Heat.
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The Cavs have a huge rebounding advantage. Their bench is better, and they have home court. If James is healthy, they should have no problem with the Celtics.
Let's see how this "disrespected" team fares against a championship team, not the garbage Miami Heat.
I have to agree the Celtics have a great shot of taking this series, and I agree with what CHILITOKID has to say about the Celts losing the first two games to get even better odds on the series. The last game I watched between these two teams was the last reg. season game in Boston, and the feeling that I got was the Cavs could not find the range at the Garden. The missed a great deal of shots and it wasn't like they were smothered, some were wide open. I saw several players miss badly, more shots than I would have felt comfortable with had I been backing them. I see the Celts holding home court, and it IS possible they could get a win in Cleveland.
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I have to agree the Celtics have a great shot of taking this series, and I agree with what CHILITOKID has to say about the Celts losing the first two games to get even better odds on the series. The last game I watched between these two teams was the last reg. season game in Boston, and the feeling that I got was the Cavs could not find the range at the Garden. The missed a great deal of shots and it wasn't like they were smothered, some were wide open. I saw several players miss badly, more shots than I would have felt comfortable with had I been backing them. I see the Celts holding home court, and it IS possible they could get a win in Cleveland.
Mr. Insight what has Cleveland ever won? They got swept by the spurs three years ago the celtics took them out in round two two years ago and they choked against the magic last year.
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Mr. Insight what has Cleveland ever won? They got swept by the spurs three years ago the celtics took them out in round two two years ago and they choked against the magic last year.
I think Cleveland made some good upgrades but Shaq will get burnt up the court every time and Anthony Parker is 5 years too old to really help. Cavs win if MO Williams ever shows up which is highly doubtful
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I think Cleveland made some good upgrades but Shaq will get burnt up the court every time and Anthony Parker is 5 years too old to really help. Cavs win if MO Williams ever shows up which is highly doubtful
The Cavs have a huge rebounding advantage. Their bench is better, and they have home court. If James is healthy, they should have no problem with the Celtics.
Let's see how this "disrespected" team fares against a championship team, not the garbage Miami Heat.
the Cavs bench is better? WHAT!?
no... the Cavs do NOT have a better bench... in fact, that's not even close...
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Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:
The Cavs have a huge rebounding advantage. Their bench is better, and they have home court. If James is healthy, they should have no problem with the Celtics.
Let's see how this "disrespected" team fares against a championship team, not the garbage Miami Heat.
the Cavs bench is better? WHAT!?
no... the Cavs do NOT have a better bench... in fact, that's not even close...
The spurs proved many times the regular season means very little.
So a team that has consistently blown huge leads all season is supposed to turn it on in the playoffs and not blow leads? Please. Those Spurs team were solid top to bottom unlike these phonies.
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Quote Originally Posted by BIGJBALLERS:
The spurs proved many times the regular season means very little.
So a team that has consistently blown huge leads all season is supposed to turn it on in the playoffs and not blow leads? Please. Those Spurs team were solid top to bottom unlike these phonies.
yes i did... i don't give a rats ass about the regular season, and OBVIOUSLY neither did the Celtics...
the Cavs have 2 star NBA players... the Celts have 4... anyone who suggests otherwise doesn't know much about basketball...
I don't give a rats ass about stars. I care about the better team and that is Cleveland. Give me Varejao all day over Allen and Garnett, dude is a winner.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:
yes i did... i don't give a rats ass about the regular season, and OBVIOUSLY neither did the Celtics...
the Cavs have 2 star NBA players... the Celts have 4... anyone who suggests otherwise doesn't know much about basketball...
I don't give a rats ass about stars. I care about the better team and that is Cleveland. Give me Varejao all day over Allen and Garnett, dude is a winner.
you can take whoever you want on your team... but seriously... how is Cleveland a better team? based on what!?
if last year didn't prove to you that this bunch of guys is not a team, and cannot win a bigtime series... then stick around... this year will prove it to you...
i love Lebron... greatest basketball player i've ever seen... but the group of clowns around him is only slightly better than the bunch of clowns surrounding Dwayne Wade... and the Cavs have one of the most overrated coaches in basketball...
this is a coin flip series... i PROMISE you...
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and Allen and Garnett are not winners...
you can take whoever you want on your team... but seriously... how is Cleveland a better team? based on what!?
if last year didn't prove to you that this bunch of guys is not a team, and cannot win a bigtime series... then stick around... this year will prove it to you...
i love Lebron... greatest basketball player i've ever seen... but the group of clowns around him is only slightly better than the bunch of clowns surrounding Dwayne Wade... and the Cavs have one of the most overrated coaches in basketball...
"Boston is playing great as a team right now, Rondo is doing a great job, Allen is shooting better now, Pierce always plays hard, Garnet
is doing more offense and playing good defense and everyone else is
doing his part, they are playing like that 23-5 team right now.
They have a legitimate shot, not only beat Cleveland but also to Win it all, aside from James, Boston is a better team man by man, Mo, Jamison and O`neal (or even Varajao) are not better than Rondo, Allen and Garnet, so my underdog will get some great lines and may bring me some good cash, thats why im loving it as a capper. "
This is a joke, right? The only reason Boston looks like they are playing "great" as a team right now is because they were playing a real crappy Heat team in the first round. They may be playing like a 23-5 team right now but you have to take quality of competition into consideration.
To say that they have a legitimate shot to not only beat the Cavs but win it all is ridiculous, IMO, and shows your fandom coming through.
Don't let your love for Boston lose you money during the playoffs when they get crushed 4-1 by Cleveland.
I would never bet on a team just because i "like" or "love" that team.
Yeah they played against the Heat, but im looking at the fact that they were playing as a team, focus, playing hard for the wins.
Some people even thought the heat could upset Boston, now Cleveland may have James and Home court advantage, i dont think thats enough to say they will roll all over Boston.
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:
"Boston is playing great as a team right now, Rondo is doing a great job, Allen is shooting better now, Pierce always plays hard, Garnet
is doing more offense and playing good defense and everyone else is
doing his part, they are playing like that 23-5 team right now.
They have a legitimate shot, not only beat Cleveland but also to Win it all, aside from James, Boston is a better team man by man, Mo, Jamison and O`neal (or even Varajao) are not better than Rondo, Allen and Garnet, so my underdog will get some great lines and may bring me some good cash, thats why im loving it as a capper. "
This is a joke, right? The only reason Boston looks like they are playing "great" as a team right now is because they were playing a real crappy Heat team in the first round. They may be playing like a 23-5 team right now but you have to take quality of competition into consideration.
To say that they have a legitimate shot to not only beat the Cavs but win it all is ridiculous, IMO, and shows your fandom coming through.
Don't let your love for Boston lose you money during the playoffs when they get crushed 4-1 by Cleveland.
I would never bet on a team just because i "like" or "love" that team.
Yeah they played against the Heat, but im looking at the fact that they were playing as a team, focus, playing hard for the wins.
Some people even thought the heat could upset Boston, now Cleveland may have James and Home court advantage, i dont think thats enough to say they will roll all over Boston.
ice we disagree on MIlk but are on the same page here. Just think the Celtics will steal game one as well. They started the season 23-5 a lot of people forget that. They know they can beat Clev and all the pressure in the world is on the cavs
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ice we disagree on MIlk but are on the same page here. Just think the Celtics will steal game one as well. They started the season 23-5 a lot of people forget that. They know they can beat Clev and all the pressure in the world is on the cavs
you can take whoever you want on your team... but seriously... how is Cleveland a better team? based on what!?
Based on the fact they won 11 more games this season, had a 3 point better point differential, finished better in offensive categories (FG%, 3pt% and PPS), finished better in the defensive categories (FG%, PPS) and were miles better in rebounding. Plus, they pass the eye test.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:
you can take whoever you want on your team... but seriously... how is Cleveland a better team? based on what!?
Based on the fact they won 11 more games this season, had a 3 point better point differential, finished better in offensive categories (FG%, 3pt% and PPS), finished better in the defensive categories (FG%, PPS) and were miles better in rebounding. Plus, they pass the eye test.
if last year didn't prove to you that this bunch of guys is not a team, and cannot win a bigtime series... then stick around... this year will prove it to you...
So just because a team brings back the same players they will perform the same every year? If that were the case every league champion in the history of sports that won one year and brought back the same players the next, would repeat every time.
And this isn't the same team as last year.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:
if last year didn't prove to you that this bunch of guys is not a team, and cannot win a bigtime series... then stick around... this year will prove it to you...
So just because a team brings back the same players they will perform the same every year? If that were the case every league champion in the history of sports that won one year and brought back the same players the next, would repeat every time.
Based on the fact they won 11 more games this season, had a 3 point better point differential, finished better in offensive categories (FG%, 3pt% and PPS), finished better in the defensive categories (FG%, PPS) and were miles better in rebounding. Plus, they pass the eye test.
NO NO NO! everything in black can be argued... but the part in red is dead wrong... they do NOT pass the eye test... they fail it badly... and the Celts pass it with flying colors...
at least so far in the playoffs... i have seen about 30 championship teams in the NBA... none of them ever looked anything like the Cavs, with their collection of players who have no idea what it means to make a big shot... no idea what it means to win a hard fought playoff series...
this is not a championship team...
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Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:
Based on the fact they won 11 more games this season, had a 3 point better point differential, finished better in offensive categories (FG%, 3pt% and PPS), finished better in the defensive categories (FG%, PPS) and were miles better in rebounding. Plus, they pass the eye test.
NO NO NO! everything in black can be argued... but the part in red is dead wrong... they do NOT pass the eye test... they fail it badly... and the Celts pass it with flying colors...
at least so far in the playoffs... i have seen about 30 championship teams in the NBA... none of them ever looked anything like the Cavs, with their collection of players who have no idea what it means to make a big shot... no idea what it means to win a hard fought playoff series...
i love Lebron... greatest basketball player i've ever seen... but the group of clowns around him is only slightly better than the bunch of clowns surrounding Dwayne Wade... and the Cavs have one of the most overrated coaches in basketball...
this is a coin flip series... i PROMISE you...
Mike Brown vs Doc Rivers is a wash. Ok, maybe a slight advantage for the Cavs. Nothing like a career underachieving coach being given a bunch of great players in their prime and coasting to a championship.
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Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:
i love Lebron... greatest basketball player i've ever seen... but the group of clowns around him is only slightly better than the bunch of clowns surrounding Dwayne Wade... and the Cavs have one of the most overrated coaches in basketball...
this is a coin flip series... i PROMISE you...
Mike Brown vs Doc Rivers is a wash. Ok, maybe a slight advantage for the Cavs. Nothing like a career underachieving coach being given a bunch of great players in their prime and coasting to a championship.
Mike Brown vs Doc Rivers is a wash. Ok, maybe a slight advantage for the Cavs.
ok, bye bye now... i have officially heard enough from you know you are clueless, andarmac... that is a ridiculously ignorant statement from a supposed follower of the NBA...
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Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:
Mike Brown vs Doc Rivers is a wash. Ok, maybe a slight advantage for the Cavs.
ok, bye bye now... i have officially heard enough from you know you are clueless, andarmac... that is a ridiculously ignorant statement from a supposed follower of the NBA...
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