The Phoenix Suns have a serious problem.

phx will not go fat bc they do not have a BENCH 

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oh yeah.

that's the extent of their problems.  Thanks for clearing that up.



Maybe you can help me out with a winner tonight.......so, ............




















who are ya tailing?

very small on all the dogs, like miami the most.. personally id wait for tomoro, much better selection

agreed, as predicted before the trade, I knew the Suns would not be as strong as they were before the trade. They were the best team in the NBA, they had the confidence, the scheme and a great personnel to run that offense, it's crazy to trade away a third of the dominant trio in Marion. They should of figured that they can no longer play like a fast paced team with a 300+ pounder in Shaq who is past his time, even he said a few years back, that he should be retired by this time. Just curious in STEVE KERR and those guys, there's no reason to believe that they would win at a high percentage with a completely different team, we have seen the abomination of a team who had the potential to win the Championship. It's just sad that they made a very costly mistake in breaking up the trio who were in their third year together. The third year playing together is lucky because the teams such as Shaq+Kobe Lakers, Parker Ginobili Duncan's Spurs, Pistons group, all won their first championship . PHX was supposed to be added to that list but it seems that they will not continue that trend, simple as this, they were fooled in making the BIGGEST mistake in trading for a tired,old, out of shape SHAQ.
Pat Riley must have been smoking a blunt and dying on the floor the night the trade went through because he got pretty good value for a player who had already past his time, even as a role player for any team such as Phoenix.

Cwebb in Golden State was a very small risk for a potential benefit, he was only signed for the vet's minimum so it wasn't such a bad call as you may think because they're going to need him down the stretch. Dubs have no Big men except for AB who is now hurt for the next couple of weeks. When the three's don't fall, Cwebb can get a jumper there or a dish for an assist. He has not been playing long because he is obviously out of shape. In a month or so, we should see the old Cwebb of previous years, also it does take time to adjust to a Nellie offense, especially one that plays so fast paced in the Warriors.

Also, Joe Johnson was not as important to Phoenix as you may think, they knew he could be let go and they will still win, saving the $$ to shell out. They made the right call, the Suns remained the Best team in the West.

look at the suns bench v. other teams in the west for ex..

You make a good point about CWebb.  He can shoot the ball.  Good thing they got him because they don't have anyone else who can do that...



if7520, I'm not on anything tonight.  gun to my head, I take the Nets, but I'm hoping for a good halftime line for the Lakers.

RedB,

thanks for your thoughts.  I think Shaq not only doesn't fit into the system, but he clogs up the works with his mere presence in the center.  If Nash can get the interior passes he used to, then it could be lakers-esque with Nash, Shaq, and Amare.  But he can't.  He's not used to dealing with 3 or 4 defenders on the inside (much less the thick meat slabs that are Shaq's legs...he's used to only 2 defenders and Amare's hopscotch ass.  This is the sort of thing that needs an offseason and a preseason to get together.  MAYBE they come back next year and do well, but I think they're cactus-fucked this season.

GL on your wagers, and I appreciate your comments.

Thank you for well-thought out criticism of my Shaq-attack and suggestion of the Foenix Phutility.  If you feel you have not fulfilled your adequatulence, then please feel free to expand on your ideas with one of these next:



But you should know that bashing in the main forums is a violation of Lou's Manifesto, and it can get you boxed.

I assure you.  You don't want that.



I am betting Philly on the spread and ML tonight.  This is not a n official PBox Nation play, but it probably should be.

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dude, you gotta get into matchbook.  You can get almost 5:1 right now.

In terms of defensive efficiency; they are the second worst defensive team in last 5 games.  Defensive efficiency is points allowed per 100 possession of opponent

 

Last 5 games, the Suns have lost to New Orleans, Detroit, and the Lakers, giving up 120, 116, and 130.  They beat the Grizzlies in a rather hard-fought win (and squeaked by with the cover), and they gave up 113.  The Celtics game was an anomaly.  The Suns did everything they could to give up 130 again, but the Cs just couldn't hit wide open shots.

Now which part of the last 5 games means that the Suns will make the playoffs?  They don't get to play the Grizz every night...

Let's go get that paper, bro...

Big time Shaq fader here.  It's weird watching the Suns now.  They fly up the court with their offense but I keep thinking "something's missing."  4 seconds later "something" comes waddling into the play, sets a half assed pick and then walks up and stands on the edge of the paint hoping the ball lands in his hands.  I only like the move because my team, by default, is the Nuggets.

My question is this.  Which playoff possible team would Shaq have been the best fit for?  Any?  I think he is just an overhyped roleplayer who can sell some tickets now.