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Quote Originally Posted by BetCrimes1984:

or how about the simple fact that Florida plays useless fucking baseball off a win

they were 0-9 SU off their last 9 wins headed into this game (won Sunday, rest day monday), they're now 0-10 SU off their last 10 wins



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Wow do you read?  Read my post above where I clearly state that this game can't be fixed.

Your basically implying that no mlb games can't be influenced because of one assumption---baseball is too powerful and players are too rich to buyout. Then I ask you about the possibility of blackmailing and threats.  What do you think about those possibilities.  I'm just wondering thats all.

You're also talking like its impossible for mlb games to be influenced.  Just like how so many people thought there was no way for the nba to be influenced. 

 

Exactly.....People are very naiive to this stuff.....The only person to be in on it is Tim Donaghy is laughable....Players, Coaches, Refs, and others have been and will continue to influence NBA games.....Just watch and you will see.....Whether it is the coaches slowing down the games to hit the under or speeding the pace up to hit the over.....Games can be easily influenced

 
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they had a WS fixed back before players were paid big bucks....blacksox?  just stirring the pot because im bored and this is ammusing
 
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ok you guys win pro sports are fixed..lol why do you gamble on something that is fixed..if you really belief it is fixed then there is no point in looking up stats and handicapping..have a good night guys,it's obvious you have never played competetive sports and had some unusual plays happen..so no one answered who was in on the fix tonight or can you give me an example of a modern day player that has fixed a game...i didn't think so..let me guess you guys think sports are fixed but wrestling is real
 
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rube, i know about the black sox scandal but these players today make too much money and have too much to lose..college players can be bought without a doubtso what side do you agree with rube
 
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nice phillies comeback...they must of had schoenweis's family tied up in the locker room.lol
 
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Quote Originally Posted by iron_mike:

ok you guys win pro sports are fixed..lol why do you gamble on something that is fixed..if you really belief it is fixed then there is no point in looking up stats and handicapping..


Well you said before that there is a good possibility of college sports being influenced by players being bought out. Most people know thats a given.  Its one of those things you can state without being bashed as ludicrous and impossible.

Then theres the history to prove it.  https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/college/news/1998/03/27/gambling_sidebar/

^That article was posted in 1998.  A good 10 years ago.  A recent college point-shaving scandal I can recall is the West Virginia bball team.  And those were the scandals that were actually unraveled.  Think about all  the ones that weren't.

Now taken all of that, go to the college sports section on this forum and ask every1 the same question---"why do you gamble on something that is fixed."
 
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i know some college players have been bought .. i remember a basketball game a few years back with zona state vs wash i believe..might point is about pro sports..we will never agree on this subject so i will just stay out of threads like this instead of me coming off like an asshole...have a good night and hope you win tons of money
 
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I didn't see or follow the 9th inning, thank God. But after seeing what ump Doug Eddings did to the Rays on Sunday, I don't doubt anything anymore.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by iron_mike:

rube, i know about the black sox scandal but these players today make too much money and have too much to lose..college players can be bought without a doubtso what side do you agree with rube

i would have to say, being a former college baseball player, that most players in professional sports play the games they play because they love them...even the thugs in the nba love the game of basketball....with the money that players make you would have to have such a huge amount of money to buy the player(S) ,because one will not do in most sports, that it would make it nearly impossible to buy a side in PRO sports....you have to understand that to pull this off you would need so many outlets to get down on the game and even then not im not sure you could get enough down to payout what you would need to be worth it...most casinos will not allow someone to get down on bets over say 40k or 50k (see The Smart Money by michael konik) and how many locals do you guys know take that kinda action?

ironmike you mentioned black mail...wouldnt it be easier just to extort the money dirrectly from the player than have him throw a game? agian if he was throwing it where would you place the bets? onilne books are not going to let you play for a million on credit and if you win big alot of them wont even pay out!

the reason the blacksox was able to be bought was because players didnt make enough then...now college athletes are a different matter...still difficult to pull off but less money is needed to buy them and therfore makes it possible..

dont really know why im saying all this other than pure boredom and amusement good luck guys

 
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rube i never mentioned black mailing,i said you have a better chance of robbing a bank then threatining a pro athlete to fix a game and get away with it..if you read all the previous posts you will see that you and i are in complete agreement...i played baseball at rutgers..where did you play?..
 
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kevin gregg doesnt need to be in on a fix..he knows how to blow it himself..the guy is not a closer despite the fact he is a hard thrower...harder they throw it the farther it goes
 
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No talk of a fix please. You guys do realize Scott Olsen was starting right? It seems like whenever he starts, the team plays well or he pitches well and everything seems peachy, and then it all just collapses. The guy has bad luck swirling around him and hasn't lived up to his potential.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HeyRube:

i would have to say, being a former college baseball player, that most players in professional sports play the games they play because they love them...even the thugs in the nba love the game of basketball....with the money that players make you would have to have such a huge amount of money to buy the player(S) ,because one will not do in most sports, that it would make it nearly impossible to buy a side in PRO sports....you have to understand that to pull this off you would need so many outlets to get down on the game and even then not im not sure you could get enough down to payout what you would need to be worth it...most casinos will not allow someone to get down on bets over say 40k or 50k (see The Smart Money by michael konik) and how many locals do you guys know take that kinda action?

ironmike you mentioned black mail...wouldnt it be easier just to extort the money dirrectly from the player than have him throw a game? agian if he was throwing it where would you place the bets? onilne books are not going to let you play for a million on credit and if you win big alot of them wont even pay out!

the reason the blacksox was able to be bought was because players didnt make enough then...now college athletes are a different matter...still difficult to pull off but less money is needed to buy them and therfore makes it possible..

dont really know why im saying all this other than pure boredom and amusement good luck guys

 

Michael Konik    they guy you were telling me about. 

Weird ending.  Only had the over which was money early...but it was a odd game for our bravos......

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