Jeremy Affeldt - A good Christian

Hutchem, people derive there moral compass from different sources.

Religion is a source where one draws there morality from, I know I do.

 

 

Neither is the music industry like Lauryn Hill suggest

He would have been a douche if he didn't return the money. A half decent person would have done the same.

The giants organization's accountant should be fired

Agreed.  

Which makes me wonder......why the OP?  JA never even indicated that he made this decision because of his Christian beliefs.  He said he "would not have been able to sleep well" if he had not given the money back.  

I just don't know why this is being used as an example of the virtues of being a Christian.  

would he have been a better christian had he kept the money and donated it to charity?

Thats a good point I was thinking that myself must be some cause important to him.

I didn't read any comment after dimndim because he summed up the thread and story perfectly.

Affeldt did the right thing by his standards. The Christianity part is irrelevant. Some Christians would easily take the extra money as a sign from their God as a blessing for being a good person.

It's a catch 22 in which God/Jesus comes out as a good person either way.

Rostos,

I've had many debates with you on this sight over religion. I absolutely love the story, I just disagree with your thread title. It should read "Jeremy Affeldt: a good, honorable person".

Good job on bringing the story to the site. I probably wouldn't have every known about it otherwise.

OnlyGod,

That car example with the devil is such a terrible analogy. Just stop it. So if he buys a car with the extra cash it's God's blessing but if he crashes it and kills someone or himself it's the work of the devil?

Sorry buddy but you can't give credit to an entity that is supposed to be in control of everything when things are good. However, when things go bad it's the devil or the free will of man. It doesn't work that way.

Hutch did a great job in post 28(I believe it was 28) with the causation.

Well you seem to know what happened kinda wierd you were around for his contract signing.  You got me on that one all I'm saying is that the number in his mind and the number he recieved were not consistent.  Seems odd that this happens to a christian guy  doesn't it ? And all you people pre-emptively jump all over him for doing the right thing.  Do you think people are stupid ?  I have every right to call you out on this one.   You can stay away too can't you ?  Or is that too much for you demons ?

Sounds like he is preaching some pretty good things trying to make humans better. 

Living in grace keeps me from all expectations. It keeps me from looking at my kids and saying, “Hey, you know what, you shouldn’t be like that,” or, “You shouldn’t act like that.” In fact, I’m learning to understand grace just by trying to teach my kids how to live an awesome life!

Handling anger is a great example. When my oldest son gets angry, Im learning to not get mad at him for being angry. I don’t say to him, “Hey, you shouldn’t be angry.” Instead, I acknowledge that he’s angry. I know that he’s angry because he doesn’t want to do something, or because he didn’t get his way. So I try to look at him and say, “I realize you’re angry. You know what? It’s okay to be angry.” Read\

Taking care of his kids, teaching people not be angry what is the problem with that ?  I ask all of you what is wrong with what this man is doing ?  Is he not perfect ?

OG,

It doesn't seem weird that it happened to a Christian. How many times around the world in a week to you think contracts are drawn up wrong to benefit one side or the other? How many of these instances DON'T involve Christians?

Similarly, how many people on death beds call out for God to miraculously save them, and they live, I'm a week? Now how many people have that exact same plea for even one more day as don't get it?

I'm willing to bet it's 100 fold over those that do survive even one more day.

Point is JA doing this, and make no mistake thi is the honorable thing to do, has nothing to do with him being Christian. It has to do with him being a noble human.

If he were Buddist, Muslim, Sikh, or any other religion, do you think Rostos would have posted this? Do you think instances like this don't happen around the world on a daily basis? Maybe even something as small as someone going incorrect change on an everyday transaction and having the beneficiary point it out?

I'm thinking this happens everyday in places all over the world.

In a similar note, had JA kept the money an said it was God's will or a gift from God, would you give God credit for that and say that God rewards Chrisians? I tend to think you would after hearing the teaching of many evangelist over the years.

Like I said, God gets credit for good things and escapes blame for bad things. That shouldn't fly with anyone, regardless of religious beliefs.

OG,

Also in response to your post #37, why do I have to be around the guy to know the story? I only know what Rostos' put in this thread and I even commended him for telling the story. Stories like this aren't mentioned enough on mainstream media.

As to your post 38, you can teach your kids to respond to certain situations with using the bible. If you have to, then by all means use it. However, don't tell people it is a necessary requirement to behave properly.

If people NEED Christianity to act civilly towards other than I absolutely encourage them to follow their beliefs. But don't ever say that people NEED to follow the bible to behave in a moral manner, because that is flat out incorrect.

And if you have any proof that people MUST follow the bible verbatim to behave reasonably then please present it to me here, because I havent found it yet.

Sorry or any grammatical errors, I've been drinking and trying to type on my phone. Not the best circumstances for responding.

Positive thoughts for all of you(notice its not prayer....)

no worries...  no appearance of the "crew" on this thread...

I don't wish to battle with you. 

It's not a "battle" OG, it's a civil discussion. Quite honestly you should take part in it to back your claims. Otherwise there is no merit to them. I can make a claim that aliens are real. However if I don't provide evidence to support it, my claim had zero merit and should never be taken seriously.

Pretty much the same thing with religion. I have still not seen any evidence that being a Christian, and not being an honest and noble human being, is the reason for JA to do such a good deed, like the thread title says.

I don't understand why it's a big deal that he said he was a good Christian? He saw somebody within in his group of faith and he's proud of him being a Christian after he did this, what is the problem? I haven't read anywhere in this thread where Rostos said he did it only because he was a Christian. 

if it were someone else saying it, it wouldnt be a big deal...