I just hate seeing Steelers homers defend this classless prick and if it was someone else, ANYONE ELSE, who landed that shot on Big Ben...then OH MY GOD.....WHAT WOULD THEY SAY THEN?!?!!!!!!! Lol...its gross, the guy is a douche and should just hang it up, he only thrives on this controversy.
I do a good job of staying objective dude. I really believe they are ruining the sport in an effort to increase scoring. And if someone landed a shot like that on Big Ben I would argue for a flag on the field. But a suspension? No way.
But I understand that you don't like him. He's not a likeable guy. But man can he hit! Wow! He lit up Colt like a Christmas tree!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:
I just hate seeing Steelers homers defend this classless prick and if it was someone else, ANYONE ELSE, who landed that shot on Big Ben...then OH MY GOD.....WHAT WOULD THEY SAY THEN?!?!!!!!!! Lol...its gross, the guy is a douche and should just hang it up, he only thrives on this controversy.
I do a good job of staying objective dude. I really believe they are ruining the sport in an effort to increase scoring. And if someone landed a shot like that on Big Ben I would argue for a flag on the field. But a suspension? No way.
But I understand that you don't like him. He's not a likeable guy. But man can he hit! Wow! He lit up Colt like a Christmas tree!!!
Spit, lol thanks for the heads up and I know you are a native (or at least live there)...and thanks for understanding. I just get fed up with dealing with extreme homers that are excessively closed minded haha
Wow dude! Excessively closed minded? What did I say to deserve that? I don't hold my position because I'm a Steelers fan. I hold my position because I'm a fan of the game and they have changed the game with their new rules.
And it's the closed minded sheep (are you one?) that tune into ESPN that show the Harrison hit 7 times in the span of a minute and scream "OMG that is so dirty!" Meanwhile these hits have been a part of the game since 1920, and these stupid fucks are too stupid to know it because they've only been watching football for two years.
I know that I'm never going to convince anybody of anything. I can post video clips all day long and the same people will still say things like "Ronnie Lott never hit and made helmet to helmet contact" and "Ray Lewis would disagree" Classic
Closed minded That's hilarious.
I've posted clips of players making vicious hits with helmet to helmet contact. Players of today and players of yesterday. I could do that all day long. But you guys are still right. He's a loser, a deusch, a piece of shit human being, a thug, a classless prick... And the NFL is really looking out for the best interest of it's players and it has nothing to do with any attempt to increase scoring And all of Harrison's hits last year were dirty and he deserved to get fined That's the best one of them all. I'll never understand how people watch those plays and blindly agree with the media.
And really, his personality isn't the issue. I don't care how nice or mean the guy is. Maybe he is a POS. But none of those hits last year warranted a flag, let alone a fine. NONE OF THEM. And if you can't watch them and realize that, then you clearly don't know football that well.
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Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:
Spit, lol thanks for the heads up and I know you are a native (or at least live there)...and thanks for understanding. I just get fed up with dealing with extreme homers that are excessively closed minded haha
Wow dude! Excessively closed minded? What did I say to deserve that? I don't hold my position because I'm a Steelers fan. I hold my position because I'm a fan of the game and they have changed the game with their new rules.
And it's the closed minded sheep (are you one?) that tune into ESPN that show the Harrison hit 7 times in the span of a minute and scream "OMG that is so dirty!" Meanwhile these hits have been a part of the game since 1920, and these stupid fucks are too stupid to know it because they've only been watching football for two years.
I know that I'm never going to convince anybody of anything. I can post video clips all day long and the same people will still say things like "Ronnie Lott never hit and made helmet to helmet contact" and "Ray Lewis would disagree" Classic
Closed minded That's hilarious.
I've posted clips of players making vicious hits with helmet to helmet contact. Players of today and players of yesterday. I could do that all day long. But you guys are still right. He's a loser, a deusch, a piece of shit human being, a thug, a classless prick... And the NFL is really looking out for the best interest of it's players and it has nothing to do with any attempt to increase scoring And all of Harrison's hits last year were dirty and he deserved to get fined That's the best one of them all. I'll never understand how people watch those plays and blindly agree with the media.
And really, his personality isn't the issue. I don't care how nice or mean the guy is. Maybe he is a POS. But none of those hits last year warranted a flag, let alone a fine. NONE OF THEM. And if you can't watch them and realize that, then you clearly don't know football that well.
First off, it isn't like this is the FIRST time that Harrison has broken the rules and it isn't an isolated incident. He is just a dirty player and a headhunter. If you list the top 10 dirtiest players in the NFL, he is in the top 2 . How many other players in the NFL could hit just as hard as he doesbut don't because they choose to follow the rules. There is no rule about how hard you can hit a guy as long as you don't do it in a dirty way.
Secondly, this isn't just about him hitting players with his helmet as a weapon and injuring them, it is also about him hurting himself. how many times have guys led with their helmet and ended up getting concussions,neck stingers, and even worse?
Harrison has got away with quite a few hard dirty hits this year as well as gotten caught.
Are you kidding me? Harrison is being watched like a hawk. He doesn't "get away" with anything.
Also... there is no rule against hitting hard as you stated. And there is nothing wrong with hitting hard. However, you are, in a way, correct. Players do get flagged for simply hitting hard, and the call will be "hitting a defenseless receiver" or "unnecessary roughness". This happens because the league is turning into person, I mean flag football.
Serious question though: Do you really think that if a player tackles someone "too hard" that it is dirty or unnecessary?
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Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:
First off, it isn't like this is the FIRST time that Harrison has broken the rules and it isn't an isolated incident. He is just a dirty player and a headhunter. If you list the top 10 dirtiest players in the NFL, he is in the top 2 . How many other players in the NFL could hit just as hard as he doesbut don't because they choose to follow the rules. There is no rule about how hard you can hit a guy as long as you don't do it in a dirty way.
Secondly, this isn't just about him hitting players with his helmet as a weapon and injuring them, it is also about him hurting himself. how many times have guys led with their helmet and ended up getting concussions,neck stingers, and even worse?
Harrison has got away with quite a few hard dirty hits this year as well as gotten caught.
Are you kidding me? Harrison is being watched like a hawk. He doesn't "get away" with anything.
Also... there is no rule against hitting hard as you stated. And there is nothing wrong with hitting hard. However, you are, in a way, correct. Players do get flagged for simply hitting hard, and the call will be "hitting a defenseless receiver" or "unnecessary roughness". This happens because the league is turning into person, I mean flag football.
Serious question though: Do you really think that if a player tackles someone "too hard" that it is dirty or unnecessary?
I found another classic example of how dirty James Harrison is. He landed on Campbell with his "full body weight". Shame on you James. You're supposed to make contact, and then move your body to the side in mid air so not to land on the QB. Wow! You are so mean James!
I found another classic example of how dirty James Harrison is. He landed on Campbell with his "full body weight". Shame on you James. You're supposed to make contact, and then move your body to the side in mid air so not to land on the QB. Wow! You are so mean James!
Colt McCoy is the one who left the pocket and was asking to get hit. Anyone who watched this game can see James Harrison lead with his arms and his helmet inadvertently hit McCoy’s helmet at impact. Any other player in this league that play would be fine but Harrison it’s a suspension. And yes, the NFL has become incredibly soft just like what Gary Bettman has done to the NHL with all his fruitcake rules but what do you expect from a lawyer that never played sports in his life. One of the main attractions of both sports have been the violent nature of it. I don’t understand taking that away from both sports.
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Colt McCoy is the one who left the pocket and was asking to get hit. Anyone who watched this game can see James Harrison lead with his arms and his helmet inadvertently hit McCoy’s helmet at impact. Any other player in this league that play would be fine but Harrison it’s a suspension. And yes, the NFL has become incredibly soft just like what Gary Bettman has done to the NHL with all his fruitcake rules but what do you expect from a lawyer that never played sports in his life. One of the main attractions of both sports have been the violent nature of it. I don’t understand taking that away from both sports.
oh god. a hockey fan to the rescue. the fact that they allow fighting in that sport is fucking disgraceful. someone throws a punch, they should be suspended. do it again, out for the year.
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oh god. a hockey fan to the rescue. the fact that they allow fighting in that sport is fucking disgraceful. someone throws a punch, they should be suspended. do it again, out for the year.
oh god. a hockey fan to the rescue. the fact that they allow fighting in that sport is fucking disgraceful. someone throws a punch, they should be suspended. do it again, out for the year.
Remember Gunner along with the great skill of these players, fighting in hockey will ALWAYS be part of the GAME!!
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Quote Originally Posted by Gunners:
oh god. a hockey fan to the rescue. the fact that they allow fighting in that sport is fucking disgraceful. someone throws a punch, they should be suspended. do it again, out for the year.
Remember Gunner along with the great skill of these players, fighting in hockey will ALWAYS be part of the GAME!!
I found James Harrisons personal email address on his twitter page. The dumbass took a picture of a hat, and in the background on his computer monitor u cud see his email addy. So i sent him an email titled "U SUSPENDED BITCH", a day or 2 before his suspension was announced. In the email i also had some choice words for him, basically just callin him a dirty player. He reminds me of the old Ron Artest, hes just kinda nuts and really pisses u off if hes not on yer side. Oh yeah, he responded back to with "LOL, i just reported u to the fbi. They will be coming for u,LMFAO", yeah ok James i'm still waiting for the fbi.
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I found James Harrisons personal email address on his twitter page. The dumbass took a picture of a hat, and in the background on his computer monitor u cud see his email addy. So i sent him an email titled "U SUSPENDED BITCH", a day or 2 before his suspension was announced. In the email i also had some choice words for him, basically just callin him a dirty player. He reminds me of the old Ron Artest, hes just kinda nuts and really pisses u off if hes not on yer side. Oh yeah, he responded back to with "LOL, i just reported u to the fbi. They will be coming for u,LMFAO", yeah ok James i'm still waiting for the fbi.
oh god. a hockey fan to the rescue. the fact that they allow fighting in that sport is fucking disgraceful. someone throws a punch, they should be suspended. do it again, out for the year.
In hockey... no. The fights are part of the game. In football... yes. Richard Seymour for the Raiders punches somebody the second time this year (mind you, he ASSAULTS somebody on the field of play) and doesn't get suspended. James Harrison makes a football play and gets suspended. Mmmmmm.
Seriously... WTF????
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Quote Originally Posted by Gunners:
oh god. a hockey fan to the rescue. the fact that they allow fighting in that sport is fucking disgraceful. someone throws a punch, they should be suspended. do it again, out for the year.
In hockey... no. The fights are part of the game. In football... yes. Richard Seymour for the Raiders punches somebody the second time this year (mind you, he ASSAULTS somebody on the field of play) and doesn't get suspended. James Harrison makes a football play and gets suspended. Mmmmmm.
I found James Harrisons personal email address on his twitter page. The dumbass took a picture of a hat, and in the background on his computer monitor u cud see his email addy. So i sent him an email titled "U SUSPENDED BITCH", a day or 2 before his suspension was announced. In the email i also had some choice words for him, basically just callin him a dirty player. He reminds me of the old Ron Artest, hes just kinda nuts and really pisses u off if hes not on yer side. Oh yeah, he responded back to with "LOL, i just reported u to the fbi. They will be coming for u,LMFAO", yeah ok James i'm still waiting for the fbi.
Not sure if I believe you, but that's funny stuff. I mean, I believe he could make that mistake, but if you really do have his personal email AD, please PM me and tell me what it is. I would love to personally tell him that many consider him the most bad ass meanest MFer to play the game in the last 50 years.
On a serious note though, it's a shame that 20 years ago he would be an automatic HOF inductee. But in this day and age, he's a head hunter, a thug, and a dirty player.
And it's a shame because he doesn't play any differently than anyone else ever has. But the media has a way to convince sheep that he does. If you would quit with your laziness and do a little research you would see that his hits are clean and legal 5 years ago. And 10 years ago. And 20 years ago. Compare them to Lambert's hits. To Ronnie Lott's hits. To Greg Lloyd's hits. To Mike Singletary's hits.
I know the rules have changed. I'm aware of that. But when you tackle a football player that is running for a first down and your head touches his head... you're getting fined and/or suspended. Does that make any sense?
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Quote Originally Posted by Matt342:
I found James Harrisons personal email address on his twitter page. The dumbass took a picture of a hat, and in the background on his computer monitor u cud see his email addy. So i sent him an email titled "U SUSPENDED BITCH", a day or 2 before his suspension was announced. In the email i also had some choice words for him, basically just callin him a dirty player. He reminds me of the old Ron Artest, hes just kinda nuts and really pisses u off if hes not on yer side. Oh yeah, he responded back to with "LOL, i just reported u to the fbi. They will be coming for u,LMFAO", yeah ok James i'm still waiting for the fbi.
Not sure if I believe you, but that's funny stuff. I mean, I believe he could make that mistake, but if you really do have his personal email AD, please PM me and tell me what it is. I would love to personally tell him that many consider him the most bad ass meanest MFer to play the game in the last 50 years.
On a serious note though, it's a shame that 20 years ago he would be an automatic HOF inductee. But in this day and age, he's a head hunter, a thug, and a dirty player.
And it's a shame because he doesn't play any differently than anyone else ever has. But the media has a way to convince sheep that he does. If you would quit with your laziness and do a little research you would see that his hits are clean and legal 5 years ago. And 10 years ago. And 20 years ago. Compare them to Lambert's hits. To Ronnie Lott's hits. To Greg Lloyd's hits. To Mike Singletary's hits.
I know the rules have changed. I'm aware of that. But when you tackle a football player that is running for a first down and your head touches his head... you're getting fined and/or suspended. Does that make any sense?
People need to remember that football is a game. IT'S A GAME. there's hitting involved, but the purpose of the game is not to hurt people. the purpose of the game is not to be as aggressive as humanly possible. regulating hits is not "pussification". hitting people hard doesn't make you anti-box or whatever. remember these things next time you get all worked up over this game. the obsessive nature of nfl fans is just as "gay" or "pussified" as obsessive world of warcraft players. don't think that because people are hitting other people that you're cooler than someone that obsesses equally over something that doesn't involve hitting. it's a game. IT'S A GAME. it's not important. but the health and safety of those playing it is important.
I have justt realized that I'm debating the game of football with a person that posts a statement like the one above.
No offense meant dude. You might be 100X more intelligent than me. And on top of that you could even be the best looking coolest and wealthiest dude in your entire county or state. But you clearly don't know football.
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Quote Originally Posted by Gunners:
People need to remember that football is a game. IT'S A GAME. there's hitting involved, but the purpose of the game is not to hurt people. the purpose of the game is not to be as aggressive as humanly possible. regulating hits is not "pussification". hitting people hard doesn't make you anti-box or whatever. remember these things next time you get all worked up over this game. the obsessive nature of nfl fans is just as "gay" or "pussified" as obsessive world of warcraft players. don't think that because people are hitting other people that you're cooler than someone that obsesses equally over something that doesn't involve hitting. it's a game. IT'S A GAME. it's not important. but the health and safety of those playing it is important.
I have justt realized that I'm debating the game of football with a person that posts a statement like the one above.
No offense meant dude. You might be 100X more intelligent than me. And on top of that you could even be the best looking coolest and wealthiest dude in your entire county or state. But you clearly don't know football.
People need to remember that football is a game. IT'S A GAME. there's hitting involved, but the purpose of the game is not to hurt people. the purpose of the game is not to be as aggressive as humanly possible. regulating hits is not "pussification". hitting people hard doesn't make you anti-box or whatever. remember these things next time you get all worked up over this game. the obsessive nature of nfl fans is just as "gay" or "pussified" as obsessive world of warcraft players. don't think that because people are hitting other people that you're cooler than someone that obsesses equally over something that doesn't involve hitting. it's a game. IT'S A GAME. it's not important. but the health and safety of those playing it is important.
Just read that post again and I still can't believe the insanity and stupidity of it.
Seriously dude. Talk to friends. Talk to neighbors. Do whatever you have to do to get a clue.
If I'm out of line please state your case. I've been wrong before, and I'll be wrong many times in the future. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and I don't mean to insult you.
But please... how do you "regulate" hitting? If you're a linebacker and it's 3rd and 7, and you're playing for a first round bye and a divisional opponent is driving for a go ahead TD late in the 4th quarter... you don't have to distinguish whether or not he's an RB, a WR, or a QB. And it's not your job to do so. I'ts not, nor should it be. HE'S A BALLCARRIER AND HE IS RUNNING WITH THE BALL TRYING TO GET A FIRST DOWN. And you can't "regulate" your hit! You just hit him as hard as you can to try to cause a fumble because that's what you do when you play football!"
The only thing sillier than you is that I need to explain this to you.
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Quote Originally Posted by Gunners:
People need to remember that football is a game. IT'S A GAME. there's hitting involved, but the purpose of the game is not to hurt people. the purpose of the game is not to be as aggressive as humanly possible. regulating hits is not "pussification". hitting people hard doesn't make you anti-box or whatever. remember these things next time you get all worked up over this game. the obsessive nature of nfl fans is just as "gay" or "pussified" as obsessive world of warcraft players. don't think that because people are hitting other people that you're cooler than someone that obsesses equally over something that doesn't involve hitting. it's a game. IT'S A GAME. it's not important. but the health and safety of those playing it is important.
Just read that post again and I still can't believe the insanity and stupidity of it.
Seriously dude. Talk to friends. Talk to neighbors. Do whatever you have to do to get a clue.
If I'm out of line please state your case. I've been wrong before, and I'll be wrong many times in the future. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and I don't mean to insult you.
But please... how do you "regulate" hitting? If you're a linebacker and it's 3rd and 7, and you're playing for a first round bye and a divisional opponent is driving for a go ahead TD late in the 4th quarter... you don't have to distinguish whether or not he's an RB, a WR, or a QB. And it's not your job to do so. I'ts not, nor should it be. HE'S A BALLCARRIER AND HE IS RUNNING WITH THE BALL TRYING TO GET A FIRST DOWN. And you can't "regulate" your hit! You just hit him as hard as you can to try to cause a fumble because that's what you do when you play football!"
The only thing sillier than you is that I need to explain this to you.
My objective here is actually an effort to save football. Forget that you're a Browns fan. Forget you're a Raven's fan. Forget for a minute that you hate the Steelers and James Harrison.
We are all fans that love... and I mean... love this game. And if you cannot see (or choose to ignore) the problems that these new rule changes are creating, then I really cannot argue with you.
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My objective here is actually an effort to save football. Forget that you're a Browns fan. Forget you're a Raven's fan. Forget for a minute that you hate the Steelers and James Harrison.
We are all fans that love... and I mean... love this game. And if you cannot see (or choose to ignore) the problems that these new rule changes are creating, then I really cannot argue with you.
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