He likes hitting people hard, but it's simply not allowed anymore.
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Ray Lewis would probably disagree with you. So would Ronnie Lott. It's really not that difficult to follow the rules unless you're a pinhead.
He likes hitting people hard, but it's simply not allowed anymore.
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Ray Lewis would probably disagree with you. So would Ronnie Lott. It's really not that difficult to follow the rules unless you're a pinhead.
He likes hitting people hard, but it's simply not allowed anymore.
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Ray Lewis would probably disagree with you. So would Ronnie Lott. It's really not that difficult to follow the rules unless you're a pinhead.
That is a very popular misconception Hutch and I agree with you. Ronnie Lott hit as hard (or harder) than anyone and he also lead with his head. The difference is that his helmet would hit the chest and not another players helmet. There is a difference between a hard hit to intiminate and a hard hit to injure. The former is not only legal but should be applauded and the latter is not only illegal but cheap.
He likes hitting people hard, but it's simply not allowed anymore.
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Ray Lewis would probably disagree with you. So would Ronnie Lott. It's really not that difficult to follow the rules unless you're a pinhead.
That is a very popular misconception Hutch and I agree with you. Ronnie Lott hit as hard (or harder) than anyone and he also lead with his head. The difference is that his helmet would hit the chest and not another players helmet. There is a difference between a hard hit to intiminate and a hard hit to injure. The former is not only legal but should be applauded and the latter is not only illegal but cheap.
First off, everyone that's played has hit people in the head. Don't kid yourself jesron. Are you going to try to tell me that the game was slow enough when Lott played and he was always able to avoid helmet contact? You're just wrong with the above comment. Also, there are many people that aren't homers that don't agree with the suspension. Just an FYI there. ![]()
Harrison was and should have been flagged for a late hit. But to suspend him is absurd. McCoy tucked the ball like he was going to run. The Browns were driving for a winning touchdown late in the game, and the Steelers are playing for a bye week in the playoffs. There's a lot at stake. Tensions are high. Please excuse Harrison for hitting him hard.
Also, a rule is a rule huh? I guess you're right. Even if the QB jumps when he throws the ball and you aim at his chest, but then you end up hitting him in the facemask. What about the "defenseless receiver" rule? Why is it that they don't call that all the time? I see it happen all the time. But if it's not a hard hit, or if the receiver catches the ball, they often don't call it. Nice consistency there.
How about the former head of officiating Mike Pereira saying in an interview that himself, the players, and even the refs are often confused on what to call legal or illegal? Look it up. I'm not making this up.
Harrison hasn't been fined all year. And for his first "offense" he gets suspended?
It doesn't even matter if he makes helmet contact anyways. He'd would have gotten fined or suspended regardless. Just like he did for the hit on Fitzpatrick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXK2cnSFHcs
Below is a link that shows two hits. One by Suh, and one by Harrison. Neither hit warranted any fine. But in todays National person League, it's different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42ObpSr5yGw
Gunners... with all due respect, what you stated above is simply incorrect. I know it's just a game, but it has never been illegal to be "as agressive as humanly possible". Hard hits have never been illegal. Harrison doesn't try to hurt people. He hits hard, but so did Lambert, Butkus, Mean Joe, Jack Tatum, Lawrence Taylor, Bubba Smith, Dick Nightrain Lane, Ronnie Lott, John Lynch, Greg Lloyd, Bill Romanowski, Mike Singletary... these guys all hit brutally hard. Harrison doesn't hit any harder than those guys did. He's not an innovator. And he doesn't tackle any differently. Helmet contact has been happening for years. And it will continue to happen.
The next time you watch a game, take notice of the helmet contact. And take note how many people get suspended. The odds are, if it's not a hard hit, it will go unnoticed. But it's still helmet to helmet contact.
Hence my original point. Harrison gets fined and suspended for hitting hard. What's he supposed to do? Go for the knees? Hitting hard is illegal anymore. Plain and simple. So he should just retire.
First off, everyone that's played has hit people in the head. Don't kid yourself jesron. Are you going to try to tell me that the game was slow enough when Lott played and he was always able to avoid helmet contact? You're just wrong with the above comment. Also, there are many people that aren't homers that don't agree with the suspension. Just an FYI there. ![]()
Harrison was and should have been flagged for a late hit. But to suspend him is absurd. McCoy tucked the ball like he was going to run. The Browns were driving for a winning touchdown late in the game, and the Steelers are playing for a bye week in the playoffs. There's a lot at stake. Tensions are high. Please excuse Harrison for hitting him hard.
Also, a rule is a rule huh? I guess you're right. Even if the QB jumps when he throws the ball and you aim at his chest, but then you end up hitting him in the facemask. What about the "defenseless receiver" rule? Why is it that they don't call that all the time? I see it happen all the time. But if it's not a hard hit, or if the receiver catches the ball, they often don't call it. Nice consistency there.
How about the former head of officiating Mike Pereira saying in an interview that himself, the players, and even the refs are often confused on what to call legal or illegal? Look it up. I'm not making this up.
Harrison hasn't been fined all year. And for his first "offense" he gets suspended?
It doesn't even matter if he makes helmet contact anyways. He'd would have gotten fined or suspended regardless. Just like he did for the hit on Fitzpatrick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXK2cnSFHcs
Below is a link that shows two hits. One by Suh, and one by Harrison. Neither hit warranted any fine. But in todays National person League, it's different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42ObpSr5yGw
Gunners... with all due respect, what you stated above is simply incorrect. I know it's just a game, but it has never been illegal to be "as agressive as humanly possible". Hard hits have never been illegal. Harrison doesn't try to hurt people. He hits hard, but so did Lambert, Butkus, Mean Joe, Jack Tatum, Lawrence Taylor, Bubba Smith, Dick Nightrain Lane, Ronnie Lott, John Lynch, Greg Lloyd, Bill Romanowski, Mike Singletary... these guys all hit brutally hard. Harrison doesn't hit any harder than those guys did. He's not an innovator. And he doesn't tackle any differently. Helmet contact has been happening for years. And it will continue to happen.
The next time you watch a game, take notice of the helmet contact. And take note how many people get suspended. The odds are, if it's not a hard hit, it will go unnoticed. But it's still helmet to helmet contact.
Hence my original point. Harrison gets fined and suspended for hitting hard. What's he supposed to do? Go for the knees? Hitting hard is illegal anymore. Plain and simple. So he should just retire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxD6Xg7xPdA
The link above shows Lott hitting Bavaro over the middle. And yes, there was helmet to helmet contact. And yes it was a brutal hit.
No flag, fine, or suspension back then.
So there you go jesron. I've been watching football for 35 years dude. Harrison is no different than anyone else that's ever played the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxD6Xg7xPdA
The link above shows Lott hitting Bavaro over the middle. And yes, there was helmet to helmet contact. And yes it was a brutal hit.
No flag, fine, or suspension back then.
So there you go jesron. I've been watching football for 35 years dude. Harrison is no different than anyone else that's ever played the game.
Watch the below clip of Jack Tatum. He played when the league didn't fine and suspend people for hitting hard. And watch more clips like this of football played from 1920 to 2000. Players were allowed to hit hard. Today they simple cannot. Nevermind the helmet to helmut rule. If you HIT SOMEONE TOO HARD, expect a fine and/or suspension.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMWVMxIlHyQ
Nah... they haven't ruined the game. Just don't hit that guy too hard and you'll be fine. Lay him down gently on the ground and maybe get him a pillow.
Watch the below clip of Jack Tatum. He played when the league didn't fine and suspend people for hitting hard. And watch more clips like this of football played from 1920 to 2000. Players were allowed to hit hard. Today they simple cannot. Nevermind the helmet to helmut rule. If you HIT SOMEONE TOO HARD, expect a fine and/or suspension.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMWVMxIlHyQ
Nah... they haven't ruined the game. Just don't hit that guy too hard and you'll be fine. Lay him down gently on the ground and maybe get him a pillow.
But you guys are all correct and I'm wrong. And Lott and Lewis never hit people in the head nor does anyone else. Harrison is dirty, and when he wakes up he says, "I hope I can give someone a concussion today." And he always aims for their heads because the speed of the game is pretty slow, and he could avoid it, but he chooses not to.
Or maybe the media has too much influence on you. ![]()
Just sayin. Maybe it is possible.
But you guys are all correct and I'm wrong. And Lott and Lewis never hit people in the head nor does anyone else. Harrison is dirty, and when he wakes up he says, "I hope I can give someone a concussion today." And he always aims for their heads because the speed of the game is pretty slow, and he could avoid it, but he chooses not to.
Or maybe the media has too much influence on you. ![]()
Just sayin. Maybe it is possible.
And if you think this is actually about player safety, it's not. The NFL wants to see 48-45 games. It appeals to people more. The games are more exciting. This is all an effort to increase scoring. If they were actually concerned about player safety, why don't they make them wear mouthpieces, thigh pads, and knee pads?
Below is another cool video of how football used to be played. There are about 50-75 "helmet to helmet" hits and "hits on defenseless receivers". But I know... they had to change the rules because all those guys are brain dead now. ![]()
And if you think this is actually about player safety, it's not. The NFL wants to see 48-45 games. It appeals to people more. The games are more exciting. This is all an effort to increase scoring. If they were actually concerned about player safety, why don't they make them wear mouthpieces, thigh pads, and knee pads?
Below is another cool video of how football used to be played. There are about 50-75 "helmet to helmet" hits and "hits on defenseless receivers". But I know... they had to change the rules because all those guys are brain dead now. ![]()
Below is Ray Lewis hitting a defenseless receiver. And it's a great clean hit. Not sure when this happened, but now it's an illegal hit because he's defenseless. This is why Lewis himself said that he doesn't know how to hit anymore. This is why many players have said that.
Below is Ray Lewis hitting a defenseless receiver. And it's a great clean hit. Not sure when this happened, but now it's an illegal hit because he's defenseless. This is why Lewis himself said that he doesn't know how to hit anymore. This is why many players have said that.
the point of football isn't to be "anti-pussified" or whatever. why is everyone so concerned about pussification. something being tough doesn't make it cool or good. the sport is about scoring points, not hitting people. fuck your two-hand touch comment. please. it is still ridiculously and a lot of times disgustingly aggressive.
cars used to have no airbags too, you know. fucking airbags. they are always finding ways to pussify my car.
the point of football isn't to be "anti-pussified" or whatever. why is everyone so concerned about pussification. something being tough doesn't make it cool or good. the sport is about scoring points, not hitting people. fuck your two-hand touch comment. please. it is still ridiculously and a lot of times disgustingly aggressive.
cars used to have no airbags too, you know. fucking airbags. they are always finding ways to pussify my car.
First off, everyone that's played has hit people in the head. Don't kid yourself jesron. Are you going to try to tell me that the game was slow enough when Lott played and he was always able to avoid helmet contact? You're just wrong with the above comment. Also, there are many people that aren't homers that don't agree with the suspension. Just an FYI there. ![]()
Harrison was and should have been flagged for a late hit. But to suspend him is absurd. McCoy tucked the ball like he was going to run. The Browns were driving for a winning touchdown late in the game, and the Steelers are playing for a bye week in the playoffs. There's a lot at stake. Tensions are high. Please excuse Harrison for hitting him hard.
Also, a rule is a rule huh? I guess you're right. Even if the QB jumps when he throws the ball and you aim at his chest, but then you end up hitting him in the facemask. What about the "defenseless receiver" rule? Why is it that they don't call that all the time? I see it happen all the time. But if it's not a hard hit, or if the receiver catches the ball, they often don't call it. Nice consistency there.
How about the former head of officiating Mike Pereira saying in an interview that himself, the players, and even the refs are often confused on what to call legal or illegal? Look it up. I'm not making this up.
Harrison hasn't been fined all year. And for his first "offense" he gets suspended?
It doesn't even matter if he makes helmet contact anyways. He'd would have gotten fined or suspended regardless. Just like he did for the hit on Fitzpatrick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXK2cnSFHcs
Below is a link that shows two hits. One by Suh, and one by Harrison. Neither hit warranted any fine. But in todays National person League, it's different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42ObpSr5yGw
Gunners... with all due respect, what you stated above is simply incorrect. I know it's just a game, but it has never been illegal to be "as agressive as humanly possible". Hard hits have never been illegal. Harrison doesn't try to hurt people. He hits hard, but so did Lambert, Butkus, Mean Joe, Jack Tatum, Lawrence Taylor, Bubba Smith, Dick Nightrain Lane, Ronnie Lott, John Lynch, Greg Lloyd, Bill Romanowski, Mike Singletary... these guys all hit brutally hard. Harrison doesn't hit any harder than those guys did. He's not an innovator. And he doesn't tackle any differently. Helmet contact has been happening for years. And it will continue to happen.
The next time you watch a game, take notice of the helmet contact. And take note how many people get suspended. The odds are, if it's not a hard hit, it will go unnoticed. But it's still helmet to helmet contact.
Hence my original point. Harrison gets fined and suspended for hitting hard. What's he supposed to do? Go for the knees? Hitting hard is illegal anymore. Plain and simple. So he should just retire.
First off, everyone that's played has hit people in the head. Don't kid yourself jesron. Are you going to try to tell me that the game was slow enough when Lott played and he was always able to avoid helmet contact? You're just wrong with the above comment. Also, there are many people that aren't homers that don't agree with the suspension. Just an FYI there. ![]()
Harrison was and should have been flagged for a late hit. But to suspend him is absurd. McCoy tucked the ball like he was going to run. The Browns were driving for a winning touchdown late in the game, and the Steelers are playing for a bye week in the playoffs. There's a lot at stake. Tensions are high. Please excuse Harrison for hitting him hard.
Also, a rule is a rule huh? I guess you're right. Even if the QB jumps when he throws the ball and you aim at his chest, but then you end up hitting him in the facemask. What about the "defenseless receiver" rule? Why is it that they don't call that all the time? I see it happen all the time. But if it's not a hard hit, or if the receiver catches the ball, they often don't call it. Nice consistency there.
How about the former head of officiating Mike Pereira saying in an interview that himself, the players, and even the refs are often confused on what to call legal or illegal? Look it up. I'm not making this up.
Harrison hasn't been fined all year. And for his first "offense" he gets suspended?
It doesn't even matter if he makes helmet contact anyways. He'd would have gotten fined or suspended regardless. Just like he did for the hit on Fitzpatrick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXK2cnSFHcs
Below is a link that shows two hits. One by Suh, and one by Harrison. Neither hit warranted any fine. But in todays National person League, it's different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42ObpSr5yGw
Gunners... with all due respect, what you stated above is simply incorrect. I know it's just a game, but it has never been illegal to be "as agressive as humanly possible". Hard hits have never been illegal. Harrison doesn't try to hurt people. He hits hard, but so did Lambert, Butkus, Mean Joe, Jack Tatum, Lawrence Taylor, Bubba Smith, Dick Nightrain Lane, Ronnie Lott, John Lynch, Greg Lloyd, Bill Romanowski, Mike Singletary... these guys all hit brutally hard. Harrison doesn't hit any harder than those guys did. He's not an innovator. And he doesn't tackle any differently. Helmet contact has been happening for years. And it will continue to happen.
The next time you watch a game, take notice of the helmet contact. And take note how many people get suspended. The odds are, if it's not a hard hit, it will go unnoticed. But it's still helmet to helmet contact.
Hence my original point. Harrison gets fined and suspended for hitting hard. What's he supposed to do? Go for the knees? Hitting hard is illegal anymore. Plain and simple. So he should just retire.
Gunner... the game is about hitting. That is how defenders knock the ball loose from the ball carrier. That is how DB's keep WR's from the making the catch. That is how defenders intimidate players and get inside their heads. The game is about running, throwing, blocking, catching, and tackling, among other things. It's not just about scoring. And besides, hard hits are fun to watch as long as nobody gets hurt. And 99.9% of the time nobody does get hurt. If you look at all the very serious injuries, they usually occur by some freak accident.
Look at the Joe Thiessman injury. Look at the injury to Mike Utley in '91 that paralyzed him. I've never seen dozens of QB's dropping dead because of hits to the head. They are implementing these rules to increase scoring in the league. If it was about player safety they would be wearing the better helmets that are available right now. But they're not BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO EXPENSIVE!
Do you really think the NFL is concerned for the well being of the players? The only reason they don't want the QB's getting hurt is because then the 2nd stringer will come in and the offense will struggle. That means less points and a product that doesn't sell as well. If you believe otherwise you are only kidding yourself.
Gunner... the game is about hitting. That is how defenders knock the ball loose from the ball carrier. That is how DB's keep WR's from the making the catch. That is how defenders intimidate players and get inside their heads. The game is about running, throwing, blocking, catching, and tackling, among other things. It's not just about scoring. And besides, hard hits are fun to watch as long as nobody gets hurt. And 99.9% of the time nobody does get hurt. If you look at all the very serious injuries, they usually occur by some freak accident.
Look at the Joe Thiessman injury. Look at the injury to Mike Utley in '91 that paralyzed him. I've never seen dozens of QB's dropping dead because of hits to the head. They are implementing these rules to increase scoring in the league. If it was about player safety they would be wearing the better helmets that are available right now. But they're not BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO EXPENSIVE!
Do you really think the NFL is concerned for the well being of the players? The only reason they don't want the QB's getting hurt is because then the 2nd stringer will come in and the offense will struggle. That means less points and a product that doesn't sell as well. If you believe otherwise you are only kidding yourself.

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