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Hawaii at Fresno State (11/03/2012)

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Posted: Oct. 28, 2012 - 3:12 AM ET #1

Away:  Hawaii [1-5 ATS]
Home:  Fresno State [8-1 ATS]

Game Time: 7:00 PM
Stadium: Bulldog Stadium

Recent Meetings:
11/19/11 - FRSST 24 vs. HAW 21
10/09/10 - HAW 49 vs. FRSST 27
10/10/09 - FRSST 42 vs. HAW 17

Team Leaders:

Hawaii:
Passing: Sean Schroeder (1284)
Rushing: Will Gregory (534)
Receiving: Jeremiah Ostrowski (243)

Fresno State:
Passing: Derek Carr (2766)
Rushing: Robbie Rouse (999)
Receiving: Davante Adams (814)

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Away:  Hawaii [1-5 ATS]
Home:  Fresno State [8-1 ATS]

Game Time: 7:00 PM
Stadium: Bulldog Stadium

Recent Meetings:
11/19/11 - FRSST 24 vs. HAW 21
10/09/10 - HAW 49 vs. FRSST 27
10/10/09 - FRSST 42 vs. HAW 17

Team Leaders:

Hawaii:
Passing: Sean Schroeder (1284)
Rushing: Will Gregory (534)
Receiving: Jeremiah Ostrowski (243)

Fresno State:
Passing: Derek Carr (2766)
Rushing: Robbie Rouse (999)
Receiving: Davante Adams (814)

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Fresno covers -33.5 best bet 55-10
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Did you guys see what Fresno did to Colorado?  It'll be worse for UH.  With the help of Frenso's defense picking off UH multiple times that night, I'll be surprised if Frenso's score is anything less than 60pts against UH. UH will be lucky to score anything except the cheap ass TD's at the end of the game.  Hell Fresno may even cover at half.

I wonder what Boise will be giving them next week?  Maybe 45?  Even then I'll take Boise to cover even at UH.  That's how sad UH is.  Power ranked 123 LMFAO!!!
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Did you guys see what Fresno did to Colorado?  It'll be worse for UH.  With the help of Frenso's defense picking off UH multiple times that night, I'll be surprised if Frenso's score is anything less than 60pts against UH. UH will be lucky to score anything except the cheap ass TD's at the end of the game.  Hell Fresno may even cover at half.

I wonder what Boise will be giving them next week?  Maybe 45?  Even then I'll take Boise to cover even at UH.  That's how sad UH is.  Power ranked 123 LMFAO!!!
 
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The Hawaii team with Colt Brennan was really good, but sadly we will never see that again unless they recruit a sad quarterback...back to this game, I like the over if the total is around 68... I see a 55-17 or 56-21 type of game.
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The Hawaii team with Colt Brennan was really good, but sadly we will never see that again unless they recruit a sad quarterback...back to this game, I like the over if the total is around 68... I see a 55-17 or 56-21 type of game.
 
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I meant stud, not sad. Haha
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   The Warriors are plain terrible PERIOD

FRESNO STATE   -  33.5

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FRESNO STATE   -  33.5

 
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One word for the Warriors this season...Horrible

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But Big D this is for the GOLDEN SCREWDRIVER, and the Warriors just might show up ready to rock and roll.

Fresno St - 50                                     Hawaii - 17

Warriors +33.5                           over 60.5

Stupid is as stupid does. I'll go with the trends, visitor is the play in this series. Unfortunatly the Bulldogs get the Screwdriver.

Hawaii - Over

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But Big D this is for the GOLDEN SCREWDRIVER, and the Warriors just might show up ready to rock and roll.

Fresno St - 50                                     Hawaii - 17

Warriors +33.5                           over 60.5

Stupid is as stupid does. I'll go with the trends, visitor is the play in this series. Unfortunatly the Bulldogs get the Screwdriver.

Hawaii - Over

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

But Big D this is for the GOLDEN SCREWDRIVER, and the Warriors just might show up ready to rock and roll.

Fresno St - 50                                     Hawaii - 17

Warriors +33.5                           over 60.5

Stupid is as stupid does. I'll go with the trends, visitor is the play in this series. Unfortunatly the Bulldogs get the Screwdriver.

Hawaii - Over

lol...Aloha my brother

It's Norm Chow's first season as the head coach so right now all the proper pieces are not in place. The Warriors are trying to bring more of a ground game to their offense but unfortunately it's not working quite well. Once the Warriors get the proper players in place for Chow's vision then the Warrior's should get better. If it does not happen soon Coach Chow might will be on the lava seat.

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But Big D this is for the GOLDEN SCREWDRIVER, and the Warriors just might show up ready to rock and roll.

Fresno St - 50                                     Hawaii - 17

Warriors +33.5                           over 60.5

Stupid is as stupid does. I'll go with the trends, visitor is the play in this series. Unfortunatly the Bulldogs get the Screwdriver.

Hawaii - Over

lol...Aloha my brother

It's Norm Chow's first season as the head coach so right now all the proper pieces are not in place. The Warriors are trying to bring more of a ground game to their offense but unfortunately it's not working quite well. Once the Warriors get the proper players in place for Chow's vision then the Warrior's should get better. If it does not happen soon Coach Chow might will be on the lava seat.

 
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Lava seat hurt bum. Fresno crushes bad competition, Fresno and OV for the large!!
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Look for a repeat of the 2004 season when Fresno scored 70pts and this was also at Frenso.  Pat Hill hates Hawaii and remembers the 2007 season where UH went undefeated in the regular season.  In 2004 UH went 8-5 and 4-4 in the WAC.  This team is NO where near anything as good and won't win another game period this year.  It's a rebuilding year and will do better next year.  

Fresno is gonna hand UH an ass whooping like they haven't seen so far this year.  What does UH have that will stop Fresno's offense or defense?  Heart?  What a joke!  I wouldn't doubt Frenso goes over the total themselves.  

Also Fresno is 8-1 ATS this season.  UH a dizzying 1-5.  

Take Frenso and the Over.  I'm also jumping all over Oregon's over and think that USC will see a real competitor Saturday.  If Arizona can win outright, imagine what Oregon will do.  I'm sorry USC, there's no way in hell Barkley is good enough to keep up with the best offense in the nation.  

My mistake playing so many games last week just because I wanted to start the early week up, but being greedy was stupid.  This week I'm only jumping on games that make sense and will give me the best chance to be up big!.  

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Look for a repeat of the 2004 season when Fresno scored 70pts and this was also at Frenso.  Pat Hill hates Hawaii and remembers the 2007 season where UH went undefeated in the regular season.  In 2004 UH went 8-5 and 4-4 in the WAC.  This team is NO where near anything as good and won't win another game period this year.  It's a rebuilding year and will do better next year.  

Fresno is gonna hand UH an ass whooping like they haven't seen so far this year.  What does UH have that will stop Fresno's offense or defense?  Heart?  What a joke!  I wouldn't doubt Frenso goes over the total themselves.  

Also Fresno is 8-1 ATS this season.  UH a dizzying 1-5.  

Take Frenso and the Over.  I'm also jumping all over Oregon's over and think that USC will see a real competitor Saturday.  If Arizona can win outright, imagine what Oregon will do.  I'm sorry USC, there's no way in hell Barkley is good enough to keep up with the best offense in the nation.  

My mistake playing so many games last week just because I wanted to start the early week up, but being greedy was stupid.  This week I'm only jumping on games that make sense and will give me the best chance to be up big!.  

 
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Posted: Nov. 2, 2012 - 7:26 AM ET #12

Pretty sad how Fresno was giving less points to Weber State.  DIV II school.  That's how bad handicappers think UH is.  Don't see any reason why anyone else would think otherwise.
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Pretty sad how Fresno was giving less points to Weber State.  DIV II school.  That's how bad handicappers think UH is.  Don't see any reason why anyone else would think otherwise.
 
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Bigdaddyhpd its nice to be reading your comments.  You hit the nail right on the head.  Norm Chow's biggest priority is to recruit the kind of players he need to build his team.  I have yet to see a first year (first time) head coach do a great job on his first season.

He will do alright after his third year. 

Sorry Warrior backers

Fresno State covers.

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Bigdaddyhpd its nice to be reading your comments.  You hit the nail right on the head.  Norm Chow's biggest priority is to recruit the kind of players he need to build his team.  I have yet to see a first year (first time) head coach do a great job on his first season.

He will do alright after his third year. 

Sorry Warrior backers

Fresno State covers.

 
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FYI...

Pick-6 QB has Bulldogs salivating

By Robert Kuwada - The Fresno Bee

 
Tuesday, Oct. 30, 2012

Hawaii quarterback Sean Schroeder had three passes picked off in a loss at Colorado State last week and two of them were returned for touchdowns.

That should at least pique the curiosity of Fresno State safety Phillip Thomas, who is leading the nation with seven interceptions and three pick-6's, as well as Bulldogs safety Derron Smith and cornerbacks Sean Alston and L.J. Jones, all of whom line up this week against the Warriors and their struggling passing game.

It has not helped that Hawaii has not been very good in pass protection, ranking 101st in the nation in sacks allowed.

Or that the Warriors have struggled to run the football and are 103rd in rushing offense.

But Schroeder has literally been off the charts this season, which really only works one way.

 

And it's not good.

The NCAA lists the top 100 players in its statistical reports and the Hawaii quarterback isn't included among the leaders (if they can be called leaders when the rankings get down into the 70s, 80s and 90s) in passing efficiency with a rating of only 101.04.

UNLV quarterback Nick Sherry checks in at No. 100 with a 112.79, and there's a sizable gap in ratings points between Sherry and Schroeder.

In college football, the first steps in calculating passing efficiency is to multiply 8.4 and the number of passing yards, multiply 330 and the number of passing touchdowns and multiply 100 and the number of completions, and add those three numbers together. Then, multiply 200 and the number of interceptions thrown, and subtract that from the sum of the first three numbers. The last step is to divide that total by the number of passing attempts.

That is a lot of math to conclude one thing: Schroeder isn't having a very good year.

He has completed only 51.4% of his passes, lowest in the Mountain West Conference. He is averaging only 5.2 yards per pass attempt, ranking ninth. He has made some mistakes, too.

That first pick-6 that he threw at Colorado State, a 76-yard return by cornerback DeAndre Elliott? "I checked the play," Schroeder told reporters after the game. "It was a bad check."

The last time a quarterback ranked 100th in passing efficiency had a lower rating than Schroeder was in 2006 when Brent Schaeffer at Mississippi put up a 100.7.

The last time a quarterback ranked 100th and had a rating of less than 100.0?

That would be Perry Patterson at Syracuse in 2005 -- he had a rating of 93.1. But there actually were six quarterbacks that season with ratings of less than 100.0 -- Reggie Ball at Georgia Tech (99.3), Curtis Painter at Purdue (98.3), Joey Vincent at New Mexico State (98.2), Pat Julmiste at South Florida (98.0) and Zack Asack at Duke (95.4), along with Patterson checking in at No. 100.


Read more here: https://www.fresnobee.com/2012/10/30/3049069/kuwada-pick-6-qb-has-bulldogs.html#storylink=cpy
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FYI...

Pick-6 QB has Bulldogs salivating

By Robert Kuwada - The Fresno Bee

 
Tuesday, Oct. 30, 2012

Hawaii quarterback Sean Schroeder had three passes picked off in a loss at Colorado State last week and two of them were returned for touchdowns.

That should at least pique the curiosity of Fresno State safety Phillip Thomas, who is leading the nation with seven interceptions and three pick-6's, as well as Bulldogs safety Derron Smith and cornerbacks Sean Alston and L.J. Jones, all of whom line up this week against the Warriors and their struggling passing game.

It has not helped that Hawaii has not been very good in pass protection, ranking 101st in the nation in sacks allowed.

Or that the Warriors have struggled to run the football and are 103rd in rushing offense.

But Schroeder has literally been off the charts this season, which really only works one way.

 

And it's not good.

The NCAA lists the top 100 players in its statistical reports and the Hawaii quarterback isn't included among the leaders (if they can be called leaders when the rankings get down into the 70s, 80s and 90s) in passing efficiency with a rating of only 101.04.

UNLV quarterback Nick Sherry checks in at No. 100 with a 112.79, and there's a sizable gap in ratings points between Sherry and Schroeder.

In college football, the first steps in calculating passing efficiency is to multiply 8.4 and the number of passing yards, multiply 330 and the number of passing touchdowns and multiply 100 and the number of completions, and add those three numbers together. Then, multiply 200 and the number of interceptions thrown, and subtract that from the sum of the first three numbers. The last step is to divide that total by the number of passing attempts.

That is a lot of math to conclude one thing: Schroeder isn't having a very good year.

He has completed only 51.4% of his passes, lowest in the Mountain West Conference. He is averaging only 5.2 yards per pass attempt, ranking ninth. He has made some mistakes, too.

That first pick-6 that he threw at Colorado State, a 76-yard return by cornerback DeAndre Elliott? "I checked the play," Schroeder told reporters after the game. "It was a bad check."

The last time a quarterback ranked 100th in passing efficiency had a lower rating than Schroeder was in 2006 when Brent Schaeffer at Mississippi put up a 100.7.

The last time a quarterback ranked 100th and had a rating of less than 100.0?

That would be Perry Patterson at Syracuse in 2005 -- he had a rating of 93.1. But there actually were six quarterbacks that season with ratings of less than 100.0 -- Reggie Ball at Georgia Tech (99.3), Curtis Painter at Purdue (98.3), Joey Vincent at New Mexico State (98.2), Pat Julmiste at South Florida (98.0) and Zack Asack at Duke (95.4), along with Patterson checking in at No. 100.


Read more here: https://www.fresnobee.com/2012/10/30/3049069/kuwada-pick-6-qb-has-bulldogs.html#storylink=cpy
 
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Posted: Nov. 2, 2012 - 10:54 PM ET #15

Quote Originally Posted by DrDogs:

Lava seat hurt bum. Fresno crushes bad competition, Fresno and OV for the large!!

 

 Bank roll it to the Las Vegas Bowl vacation !

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Quote Originally Posted by DrDogs:

Lava seat hurt bum. Fresno crushes bad competition, Fresno and OV for the large!!

 

 Bank roll it to the Las Vegas Bowl vacation !

 
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Posted: Nov. 3, 2012 - 3:10 AM ET #16

Quote Originally Posted by SURFNTURF:

Fresno covers -33.5 best bet 55-10

Fresno is beastly @ home they go H.A.M. All day !! 

Fresno 
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Quote Originally Posted by SURFNTURF:

Fresno covers -33.5 best bet 55-10

Fresno is beastly @ home they go H.A.M. All day !! 

Fresno 
 
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Posted: Nov. 3, 2012 - 4:01 PM ET #17

This is stupid. I have an account with legends and they wont allow a two team parley on this game. no side and total parley.

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This is stupid. I have an account with legends and they wont allow a two team parley on this game. no side and total parley.

 
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Posted: Nov. 3, 2012 - 4:53 PM ET #18

Fresno State
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Fresno State
 
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Posted: Nov. 3, 2012 - 5:16 PM ET #19

Hawaii +33
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Hawaii +33
 
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Posted: Nov. 3, 2012 - 6:19 PM ET #20

@ animal72,  Hawaii....really.

You might as well give me your money instead of wagering it at some website or your local bookie.

It's  all Fresno state for me -32...I have close to $5k on Fresno State.  I will betting against Hawaii for the rest of the season.  I don't care what the point spread it....they will get dominated the rest of the ride.  I think them boys are counting down the days for the last game of the season to come.
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@ animal72,  Hawaii....really.

You might as well give me your money instead of wagering it at some website or your local bookie.

It's  all Fresno state for me -32...I have close to $5k on Fresno State.  I will betting against Hawaii for the rest of the season.  I don't care what the point spread it....they will get dominated the rest of the ride.  I think them boys are counting down the days for the last game of the season to come.
 
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Posted: Nov. 3, 2012 - 6:49 PM ET #21

Warriors are bad that's for sure!  I lay the lumber as well ......  
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Warriors are bad that's for sure!  I lay the lumber as well ......  
 
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Posted: Nov. 3, 2012 - 10:03 PM ET #22

fuck Fresno St.,
second half no trying assholes.....yes I had the over.....
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fuck Fresno St.,
second half no trying assholes.....yes I had the over.....
 
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Posted: Nov. 4, 2012 - 2:25 AM ET #23

This game was without a doubt a cover right from the beginning.  Weird how Fresno didn't score anything the second half but sure enough their defense kept UH from scoring anything and getting a cheap TD in the end.  Too bad they didn't want to score anymore so it didn't go over.

Oh well, Oregon & Over, and Fresno covered today for BIG money.  Went with what I thought was going to be the best bets today instead of trying too many games like last week and went 3-1!  Not a bad start and nice being up big for tomorrow's game!  GL to all  tommorrow
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This game was without a doubt a cover right from the beginning.  Weird how Fresno didn't score anything the second half but sure enough their defense kept UH from scoring anything and getting a cheap TD in the end.  Too bad they didn't want to score anymore so it didn't go over.

Oh well, Oregon & Over, and Fresno covered today for BIG money.  Went with what I thought was going to be the best bets today instead of trying too many games like last week and went 3-1!  Not a bad start and nice being up big for tomorrow's game!  GL to all  tommorrow
 
 
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Posted: Nov. 4, 2012 - 2:30 AM ET #24

Luckily most bookies, online, personal, or Vegas doesn't like to take large spread parlays with the O/U.  Makes sense, they're expecting this team to be beat by so many points, 33 in this situation so supposedly the over of 60 should've been easy.  Makes sense so because of this fact alone, I had a 3 team parlay instead of a 4 team I originally wanted.  This helped me to win otherwise my parlay would've lost because of the Frenso over!  
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Luckily most bookies, online, personal, or Vegas doesn't like to take large spread parlays with the O/U.  Makes sense, they're expecting this team to be beat by so many points, 33 in this situation so supposedly the over of 60 should've been easy.  Makes sense so because of this fact alone, I had a 3 team parlay instead of a 4 team I originally wanted.  This helped me to win otherwise my parlay would've lost because of the Frenso over!  
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