I have placed 11 wagers against hawaii...either first half bets, 2nd half bets or game bets. I have faded hawaii on each every bet and stand at 11-0. There can be value in fading UH. I have AF 1H and Game. If UH covers them both I still wont give a shit because I rode this trend from the begining of the season. And to top it off the only time I did not fade them was taking the over in the lamar game. SO I stand at 12-0...Hawaii is bad. They cannot stop the run to save a dying 2 year old girl who dropped her ice cream cone....they are terrible on D. And if this shitty QB HIggins cane pull off a cover....well touche touche.
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I have placed 11 wagers against hawaii...either first half bets, 2nd half bets or game bets. I have faded hawaii on each every bet and stand at 11-0. There can be value in fading UH. I have AF 1H and Game. If UH covers them both I still wont give a shit because I rode this trend from the begining of the season. And to top it off the only time I did not fade them was taking the over in the lamar game. SO I stand at 12-0...Hawaii is bad. They cannot stop the run to save a dying 2 year old girl who dropped her ice cream cone....they are terrible on D. And if this shitty QB HIggins cane pull off a cover....well touche touche.
Not a great setup but well take what we get. Aforce has been terrible this year but seem to step it up at home more so than on the road. Good luck. You got a really inconsistent team here but never bet on bad teams. AFORCE and OV for the medium
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Not a great setup but well take what we get. Aforce has been terrible this year but seem to step it up at home more so than on the road. Good luck. You got a really inconsistent team here but never bet on bad teams. AFORCE and OV for the medium
don't mind the haters. What you've posted sounds like you are on top of your game. As for saladpuncher, just from reading his posts, sounds uneducated and lame.
I took the OVER 66 on the NIU / Toledo as well. Would be foolish to take the under. There were too many turnovers in that game. NIU's QB fumbled the ball in the Red Zone 1Q. Sometimes things don't roll your way...but betting against UH always equalizes my losses. And yes, UH has loads of $$$ for me this season and I will ride that train until it stops. I have like $10K on this game tonight, 1H and AF team total points. If they win, I'm going to put all of it on the OVER Oregon / Standford game tomorrow night.
that's ballsy, but i do like the play... i don't bet totals much, but the Over on that game caught my attention... last few years there has been zero defense in that game... i think both styles of offense are built to exploit both styles of offense... Oregon too fast for Stanford's defense... Stanford too powerful for Oregon's defense... like it!
don't mind the haters. What you've posted sounds like you are on top of your game. As for saladpuncher, just from reading his posts, sounds uneducated and lame.
I took the OVER 66 on the NIU / Toledo as well. Would be foolish to take the under. There were too many turnovers in that game. NIU's QB fumbled the ball in the Red Zone 1Q. Sometimes things don't roll your way...but betting against UH always equalizes my losses. And yes, UH has loads of $$$ for me this season and I will ride that train until it stops. I have like $10K on this game tonight, 1H and AF team total points. If they win, I'm going to put all of it on the OVER Oregon / Standford game tomorrow night.
that's ballsy, but i do like the play... i don't bet totals much, but the Over on that game caught my attention... last few years there has been zero defense in that game... i think both styles of offense are built to exploit both styles of offense... Oregon too fast for Stanford's defense... Stanford too powerful for Oregon's defense... like it!
Hawaii 19 at Air Force 49 "Norm Chow's Hawaii has lost its last seven SU and vs. line (margin 32 ppg!) and has been outscrored 235-61 on the road this season....and Air Force the latest bad matchup for Warriors after Chow's "D" allowed 104 pts. vs. previous ground-oriented foes Nevada
and New Mexico." CABLE TV-ESPN
Air Force predicted to win this "game" by 30+ points? Who? How? Where? When? Are they kidding me?
Had to dig out my old Roxborough's Football Sports Calculator for this one! Punched in all the "points for" "points against" and came up with a score of Air Force 25--Hawaii 17.
True, Hawaii 1-10 vs. point spread! They failed to cover +7, +20, +25, +28 or even +32 points! But how am I supposed to give up 22 points? Air Force no Kansas State or Alabama!
Only so-called "points" I can see Air Force covering is if they
were playing Oregon...and getting no less than 274 points!
And that final score would be Oregon 276 and Air Force 3!
I have Hawaii winning this disaster with a "lucky" safety, so I'm going "large" with $5.00 on Hawaii!
Hawaii 2Air Force 21
Good Luck to All
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Hawaii Wins Game with a Safety!
Gold Sheet's Call:
Hawaii 19 at Air Force 49 "Norm Chow's Hawaii has lost its last seven SU and vs. line (margin 32 ppg!) and has been outscrored 235-61 on the road this season....and Air Force the latest bad matchup for Warriors after Chow's "D" allowed 104 pts. vs. previous ground-oriented foes Nevada
and New Mexico." CABLE TV-ESPN
Air Force predicted to win this "game" by 30+ points? Who? How? Where? When? Are they kidding me?
Had to dig out my old Roxborough's Football Sports Calculator for this one! Punched in all the "points for" "points against" and came up with a score of Air Force 25--Hawaii 17.
True, Hawaii 1-10 vs. point spread! They failed to cover +7, +20, +25, +28 or even +32 points! But how am I supposed to give up 22 points? Air Force no Kansas State or Alabama!
Only so-called "points" I can see Air Force covering is if they
were playing Oregon...and getting no less than 274 points!
And that final score would be Oregon 276 and Air Force 3!
I have Hawaii winning this disaster with a "lucky" safety, so I'm going "large" with $5.00 on Hawaii!
The Warriors have lost 7 straight ats...but if there's ever a time to end the streak it's tonight in Colorado Springs. The Warriors match-up at least physically with the Falcons and getting 22 looks good to me.
Air Force - 40 Hawaii - 21
Warriors +22 under 61.5
If the Warriors can get me 3 scores-----i win.
Hawaii - Under
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The Warriors have lost 7 straight ats...but if there's ever a time to end the streak it's tonight in Colorado Springs. The Warriors match-up at least physically with the Falcons and getting 22 looks good to me.
late in the season ... you're sore ... you're tired ...long ass road trip ... your team sucks ... last thing you want to face is an option team ... defensively, everything has to be back to the basics ... keys, gap responsibilty, assignments etc ... you're not gonna get that from Hawaii tonight ... degenerate play ... air force minus the points
BOL fellas
anna31204
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late in the season ... you're sore ... you're tired ...long ass road trip ... your team sucks ... last thing you want to face is an option team ... defensively, everything has to be back to the basics ... keys, gap responsibilty, assignments etc ... you're not gonna get that from Hawaii tonight ... degenerate play ... air force minus the points
I have to say that Hawaii is not going to want to make tackes in the cold ass tundra. That field is going to be as hard as a rock. Hawaii is going to say fuck it at some point and roll over. Also that cold air burns your lungs if your not used to it. Hawaii has no reason to give a shit at this point.
Laying the big chalk on a home team that has somethign to play for.
Also the short week and the long flight dont help.
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I have to say that Hawaii is not going to want to make tackes in the cold ass tundra. That field is going to be as hard as a rock. Hawaii is going to say fuck it at some point and roll over. Also that cold air burns your lungs if your not used to it. Hawaii has no reason to give a shit at this point.
Laying the big chalk on a home team that has somethign to play for.
Also the short week and the long flight dont help.
The whole "o0xst!!!! They are a sea level team" is interesting if you
don't look at controversial things like facts and history.
This season they handled New Mexico and Nevada, Idaho State and Colorado State -- schools well above sea level.
however.... they lost to Navy, a sea level school
10-6-12 lost to navy 21-28
Last season
Well Above sea level
Lost to sea level heroes San Diego State (actually maybe below sea level?) 27-41 They did however bear Army 24-14 (did they cover??), and I think West Point is slightly above sea-level. I don't feel like doing an extensive study on this, but I think it's kind of a trickle down economics theory, sounds good (if you are dumb) but just doesn't work.
you're attacking this problem from the wrong direction... honestly, i'm not even sure why you would think to look at how Air Force has performed when they are (or are not) playing teams located at sea level...
you need to be look it from the perspective of how Hawaii has played when playing teams at high altitudes... especially because Hawaii has further to travel than any other team in CFB, when they make road trips... so it combines long travel with high altitude...
this year, in these situations...
BYU 47 Hawaii 0 (BYU -25 covers) Col St 42 Hawaii 27 (CSU -5 covers)
combine it with the absolutely horrendous matchup... you have a team on a short week, with long travel, playing at high altitude, against a motivated team that runs an option attack... factor in Hawaii's absolutely horrendous run defense, going against the #2 rushing offense...
seriously... it's not that fuckin' complicated!
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Quote Originally Posted by saladpuncher:
The whole "o0xst!!!! They are a sea level team" is interesting if you
don't look at controversial things like facts and history.
This season they handled New Mexico and Nevada, Idaho State and Colorado State -- schools well above sea level.
however.... they lost to Navy, a sea level school
10-6-12 lost to navy 21-28
Last season
Well Above sea level
Lost to sea level heroes San Diego State (actually maybe below sea level?) 27-41 They did however bear Army 24-14 (did they cover??), and I think West Point is slightly above sea-level. I don't feel like doing an extensive study on this, but I think it's kind of a trickle down economics theory, sounds good (if you are dumb) but just doesn't work.
you're attacking this problem from the wrong direction... honestly, i'm not even sure why you would think to look at how Air Force has performed when they are (or are not) playing teams located at sea level...
you need to be look it from the perspective of how Hawaii has played when playing teams at high altitudes... especially because Hawaii has further to travel than any other team in CFB, when they make road trips... so it combines long travel with high altitude...
this year, in these situations...
BYU 47 Hawaii 0 (BYU -25 covers) Col St 42 Hawaii 27 (CSU -5 covers)
combine it with the absolutely horrendous matchup... you have a team on a short week, with long travel, playing at high altitude, against a motivated team that runs an option attack... factor in Hawaii's absolutely horrendous run defense, going against the #2 rushing offense...
over the past 4 years, Hawaii is 3-6 ATS and SU in these situations... and that includes 2009-10, when Hawaii went 11-2 ATS, with their only 2 ATS losses coming @ Boise and @ Colorado... (pretty sure that was Colt McCoy's senior season)...
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footnote to the high altitude data...
over the past 4 years, Hawaii is 3-6 ATS and SU in these situations... and that includes 2009-10, when Hawaii went 11-2 ATS, with their only 2 ATS losses coming @ Boise and @ Colorado... (pretty sure that was Colt McCoy's senior season)...
smart man, Drew... don't let your allegiance to your team cloud your judgment... i was on NM, CSU and Fresno St, but for some reason didn't like the line in the Boise game, so i stayed away... back on the train for this one...
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smart man, Drew... don't let your allegiance to your team cloud your judgment... i was on NM, CSU and Fresno St, but for some reason didn't like the line in the Boise game, so i stayed away... back on the train for this one...
of course, as always... i am not "unloading" on this play... or any other play... i'm just saying this because there is probably some "gambler" reading this and preparing to dump more than they can afford to lose on this game...
don't ever do that shit! but if you do... DO NOT EVER BLAME SOMEBODY ELSE IF/WHEN YOU LOSE!
money management is EVERYTHING in this game... i promise you! there is no easy road to riches... at least not for 99.9% of us... slow and steady wins the race...
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of course, as always... i am not "unloading" on this play... or any other play... i'm just saying this because there is probably some "gambler" reading this and preparing to dump more than they can afford to lose on this game...
don't ever do that shit! but if you do... DO NOT EVER BLAME SOMEBODY ELSE IF/WHEN YOU LOSE!
money management is EVERYTHING in this game... i promise you! there is no easy road to riches... at least not for 99.9% of us... slow and steady wins the race...
Ouch, it's about 30 degrees at Air Force. NEVER a good thing for Hawaiian people lol. It's not snowing but it might be icy which is never a good sign for the passing game since you can't keep your routes the way you want em. Maybe lots of slipping and sliding but I can't tell until the game comes on. Just heard on the radio about the weather.
Just EXACTLY as predicted, tons of Hawaii people took UH and the line dropped to an awesome 21.5pts for me so I had to bite! Then the sharps were smart enough to know and pounded the shit out of this line and shot straight up to 23.
Wonder what's gonna happen?
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Ouch, it's about 30 degrees at Air Force. NEVER a good thing for Hawaiian people lol. It's not snowing but it might be icy which is never a good sign for the passing game since you can't keep your routes the way you want em. Maybe lots of slipping and sliding but I can't tell until the game comes on. Just heard on the radio about the weather.
Just EXACTLY as predicted, tons of Hawaii people took UH and the line dropped to an awesome 21.5pts for me so I had to bite! Then the sharps were smart enough to know and pounded the shit out of this line and shot straight up to 23.
I have placed 11 wagers against hawaii...either first half bets, 2nd half bets or game bets. I have faded hawaii on each every bet and stand at 11-0. There can be value in fading UH. I have AF 1H and Game. If UH covers them both I still wont give a shit because I rode this trend from the begining of the season. And to top it off the only time I did not fade them was taking the over in the lamar game. SO I stand at 12-0...Hawaii is bad. They cannot stop the run to save a dying 2 year old girl who dropped her ice cream cone....they are terrible on D. And if this shitty QB HIggins cane pull off a cover....well touche touche.
My sentiments exactly! I've made so much money fading UH, I would't be upset if by some miracle they cover the half and game tonight. But I still wanna have AF beat the crap out of UH. They're still shifting guys around on the line! COME ON MAN! You have serious problems when you're this far into the season and you need to move guys all over the place.
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Quote Originally Posted by OneBloodyBoto:
I have placed 11 wagers against hawaii...either first half bets, 2nd half bets or game bets. I have faded hawaii on each every bet and stand at 11-0. There can be value in fading UH. I have AF 1H and Game. If UH covers them both I still wont give a shit because I rode this trend from the begining of the season. And to top it off the only time I did not fade them was taking the over in the lamar game. SO I stand at 12-0...Hawaii is bad. They cannot stop the run to save a dying 2 year old girl who dropped her ice cream cone....they are terrible on D. And if this shitty QB HIggins cane pull off a cover....well touche touche.
My sentiments exactly! I've made so much money fading UH, I would't be upset if by some miracle they cover the half and game tonight. But I still wanna have AF beat the crap out of UH. They're still shifting guys around on the line! COME ON MAN! You have serious problems when you're this far into the season and you need to move guys all over the place.
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