It is true that Cuse's bet WR quit the team this morning. Mike Williams maybe? I read the article. Pitt may be the right side, I just hate putting money behind Wanny.
Utah St is -3. I hate betting against Hawaii on the island, but they are bad. Prolly a no play.
Tulsa/Houston is a no play. Who knows which team will play defense. USM just hung 43 on UH. That o/u should be 100. Seriously at 85 that would be low.
I'm liking Tulsa the more and more I look at the game. Pitt is the right side in my opinion. I think they are going to score and score in bunches. The Pitt offense is pretty solid. Defense isn't too shabby either. I think Paulus turns the ball over a lot, without that WR.
Betting against Hawaii out there is a bad idea unless of course Notre Dame is going out there to play. That was my biggest bet of the bowl season last year. Massacre. Utah State's offense is pretty good. I think Hawaii struggles but I'm not laying 3 points with Utah State on the road.
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Quote Originally Posted by jp1lsu:
It is true that Cuse's bet WR quit the team this morning. Mike Williams maybe? I read the article. Pitt may be the right side, I just hate putting money behind Wanny.
Utah St is -3. I hate betting against Hawaii on the island, but they are bad. Prolly a no play.
Tulsa/Houston is a no play. Who knows which team will play defense. USM just hung 43 on UH. That o/u should be 100. Seriously at 85 that would be low.
I'm liking Tulsa the more and more I look at the game. Pitt is the right side in my opinion. I think they are going to score and score in bunches. The Pitt offense is pretty solid. Defense isn't too shabby either. I think Paulus turns the ball over a lot, without that WR.
Betting against Hawaii out there is a bad idea unless of course Notre Dame is going out there to play. That was my biggest bet of the bowl season last year. Massacre. Utah State's offense is pretty good. I think Hawaii struggles but I'm not laying 3 points with Utah State on the road.
hellcat3 - Leaning on LSU, already played Oklahoma...still like it at 7 personally. Going to look at the TCU game extensively and the Oregon game more this week sometime. I'll get back with you. Fairly busy right now.
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hellcat3 - Leaning on LSU, already played Oklahoma...still like it at 7 personally. Going to look at the TCU game extensively and the Oregon game more this week sometime. I'll get back with you. Fairly busy right now.
OSU fan for 25 years and 5-0 ATS on them this year (take Penn St -4 and the under)
Big play on Clemson
I still haven't looked at the Clemson/Florida State game yet. I'm going to mess with the Ohio State game like Wednesday. Was leaning Penn State already.
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Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:
OSU fan for 25 years and 5-0 ATS on them this year (take Penn St -4 and the under)
Big play on Clemson
I still haven't looked at the Clemson/Florida State game yet. I'm going to mess with the Ohio State game like Wednesday. Was leaning Penn State already.
Whodeysb09, What do you think about Minnesota (-6.5) at home vs. beleaguered Illinois. I know the Illini just came off HUGE upset of Michigan at home but Michigan couldn't have played worse and Illini couldn't have played better (follwing that fumble on the 1 yard line that should have put Michigan up 20-7 and likely broken the game open.) Minnesota is a decent big ten team with prolific offense, esp. at home, and 3 of there 4 loses are to ranked opponents (PSU, OSU, CAL) and the other loss was to Wisco 31-28. The Illini have an impotent, desultory offense and joke of a defense sans last weeks route of Michigan. Also, what do you think about North Carolina (-8.5) at home vs. Duke, who is coming off big upset over UVA last week. I just don't think Duke has the athletes to match UNC. UNC blew one game this year to UVA but their other two loses are to FSU (lost by 3) and GT, who is a proven top ten winner week in and week out. UNC is coming off upset of VT. Both teams are 5-3 but Duke is 3-1 in conference and UNC is 1-3 in conference so I'm much less confident in this play than Minn. What say you.
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Whodeysb09, What do you think about Minnesota (-6.5) at home vs. beleaguered Illinois. I know the Illini just came off HUGE upset of Michigan at home but Michigan couldn't have played worse and Illini couldn't have played better (follwing that fumble on the 1 yard line that should have put Michigan up 20-7 and likely broken the game open.) Minnesota is a decent big ten team with prolific offense, esp. at home, and 3 of there 4 loses are to ranked opponents (PSU, OSU, CAL) and the other loss was to Wisco 31-28. The Illini have an impotent, desultory offense and joke of a defense sans last weeks route of Michigan. Also, what do you think about North Carolina (-8.5) at home vs. Duke, who is coming off big upset over UVA last week. I just don't think Duke has the athletes to match UNC. UNC blew one game this year to UVA but their other two loses are to FSU (lost by 3) and GT, who is a proven top ten winner week in and week out. UNC is coming off upset of VT. Both teams are 5-3 but Duke is 3-1 in conference and UNC is 1-3 in conference so I'm much less confident in this play than Minn. What say you.
That North Carolina line is really high in my opinion. I see a bit of value in Duke. Duke has a fairly decent passing game. I think this will be a very low scoring game. I just don't see UNC blowing the doors off of Duke. Kansas blasted Duke, but Kansas was playing well and had a very good offense going at that point. Besides that game in their other two losses they lost both games by 8 points. I really wish I would have been able to see Duke play this season. I'm going to look at this game more as the week goes along. I'll give you a better opinion later on. Right now I would not play UNC. As I don't think 8.5 is a good number for UNC.
On Minnesota. The game does look fairly good to me at this point. I think Illinois is absolute garbage. The thing that concerns me about Minnesota though is their rush defense. They are not very good at defending the rush. They in fact are ranked I believe around 90th in the country. If Illinois does anything well it is run the ball. In the second half they might have gained a little bit of momentum to carry over into this game. I really thought that Minnesota would struggle with the loss of Decker for the season, they haven't seemed to be slowed down yet. Minnesota allows 4.25 yards a carry on the ground. That is a major concern for me. The one thing is of course you can look at past performances of teams and see how they have done. College football though is a lot about match-ups. What teams are built to beat, and what teams struggle against. Minnesota scares me with their inability to stop the run. Illinois might have picked up a bit of momentum here. I don't know man. Illinois has been very bad on the road though this season. In three road games this season they have lost by an average of 17 points. The number is a little skewed because of the blowout loss of 30 to the Buckeyes. They haven't played a game closer than 10 on the road though. Thats my short take on those two games. Hope it helps.
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That North Carolina line is really high in my opinion. I see a bit of value in Duke. Duke has a fairly decent passing game. I think this will be a very low scoring game. I just don't see UNC blowing the doors off of Duke. Kansas blasted Duke, but Kansas was playing well and had a very good offense going at that point. Besides that game in their other two losses they lost both games by 8 points. I really wish I would have been able to see Duke play this season. I'm going to look at this game more as the week goes along. I'll give you a better opinion later on. Right now I would not play UNC. As I don't think 8.5 is a good number for UNC.
On Minnesota. The game does look fairly good to me at this point. I think Illinois is absolute garbage. The thing that concerns me about Minnesota though is their rush defense. They are not very good at defending the rush. They in fact are ranked I believe around 90th in the country. If Illinois does anything well it is run the ball. In the second half they might have gained a little bit of momentum to carry over into this game. I really thought that Minnesota would struggle with the loss of Decker for the season, they haven't seemed to be slowed down yet. Minnesota allows 4.25 yards a carry on the ground. That is a major concern for me. The one thing is of course you can look at past performances of teams and see how they have done. College football though is a lot about match-ups. What teams are built to beat, and what teams struggle against. Minnesota scares me with their inability to stop the run. Illinois might have picked up a bit of momentum here. I don't know man. Illinois has been very bad on the road though this season. In three road games this season they have lost by an average of 17 points. The number is a little skewed because of the blowout loss of 30 to the Buckeyes. They haven't played a game closer than 10 on the road though. Thats my short take on those two games. Hope it helps.
oregon injuries:[RB] 11/02/2009 - LeGarrette Blount "?" Saturday vs. Stanford ( Suspension Served ) [CB] 09/29/2009 - Walter Thurmond III out for season ( Knee ) [LB] 11/01/2009 - Riley Showalter "?" Saturday vs. Stanford ( Finger ) [RB] 10/05/2009 - Remene Alston out indefinitely ( Academics ) [CB] 10/07/2009 - Willie Glasper out for season ( Knee )
Whodey, injury report on oregon still doesnt show me that -6 makes sense.This line is fishy. Could it be a project letdown spot?? I do not believe in letdowns, The way oregon played usc I see no reason oregon should not beat stanford by less than double digits. Is home field that big here?
Some interesting notes about stanford:
They need 1 win to be bowl eligble for 1st time since 2001. They have been solid at home this season 4-0 (garbage competion though).They travel to usc next week, then host Cal and your Irish to close out the season. They have put up 1057 yards of total offense last 2 games (arizona, arizon st).
Some interesting notes about Oregon:
They lead their division 7-1 record. They whopped Usc last week. They are averaging 35.6 points offense and allowing only 17points on defense.They are 10-5 ats vs Stanford since 1992 having won the last 7.They are averaging 11.2 yards per pass.Avg 300yards passing a game and 233yards rushing.
Oregon-6
Ive read both teams newspapers, checked injury reports, still cannot find any reason to not warrant a large play on the DUCKS bro. My power rankings have Oregon somewhere around -13 -13.5 Oregon SOS 42.4 Stanford 36
Oregon has been a solid spread covering machine this season and last weeks win vs USC was total domination winning by 4 TD's.
Stanford has had losses to Wake, Airzona,Oregon st
Imo Oregon will prove too much for stanford to handle this Saturday something like 42-27??
Question Whodey is why is this line so low? Am i missing something here or is there value? Im finding this line very suspect and wondering your thoughts. This may sound silly but I think I would be more comfortable playing the Ducks if the line was -9 or -10.
thanks in advance
Btw loving some of your picks and also wondering if you would play temple-14.5.?
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oregon injuries:[RB] 11/02/2009 - LeGarrette Blount "?" Saturday vs. Stanford ( Suspension Served ) [CB] 09/29/2009 - Walter Thurmond III out for season ( Knee ) [LB] 11/01/2009 - Riley Showalter "?" Saturday vs. Stanford ( Finger ) [RB] 10/05/2009 - Remene Alston out indefinitely ( Academics ) [CB] 10/07/2009 - Willie Glasper out for season ( Knee )
Whodey, injury report on oregon still doesnt show me that -6 makes sense.This line is fishy. Could it be a project letdown spot?? I do not believe in letdowns, The way oregon played usc I see no reason oregon should not beat stanford by less than double digits. Is home field that big here?
Some interesting notes about stanford:
They need 1 win to be bowl eligble for 1st time since 2001. They have been solid at home this season 4-0 (garbage competion though).They travel to usc next week, then host Cal and your Irish to close out the season. They have put up 1057 yards of total offense last 2 games (arizona, arizon st).
Some interesting notes about Oregon:
They lead their division 7-1 record. They whopped Usc last week. They are averaging 35.6 points offense and allowing only 17points on defense.They are 10-5 ats vs Stanford since 1992 having won the last 7.They are averaging 11.2 yards per pass.Avg 300yards passing a game and 233yards rushing.
Oregon-6
Ive read both teams newspapers, checked injury reports, still cannot find any reason to not warrant a large play on the DUCKS bro. My power rankings have Oregon somewhere around -13 -13.5 Oregon SOS 42.4 Stanford 36
Oregon has been a solid spread covering machine this season and last weeks win vs USC was total domination winning by 4 TD's.
Stanford has had losses to Wake, Airzona,Oregon st
Imo Oregon will prove too much for stanford to handle this Saturday something like 42-27??
Question Whodey is why is this line so low? Am i missing something here or is there value? Im finding this line very suspect and wondering your thoughts. This may sound silly but I think I would be more comfortable playing the Ducks if the line was -9 or -10.
thanks in advance
Btw loving some of your picks and also wondering if you would play temple-14.5.?
Personally I don't know why the line is so low. Really doesn't make much sense to me. Maybe expecting a let down after such a huge emotional win. I'm not really sure man. Personally when I looked through the games this game really didn't stick out to me, which is really weird, because I figured it would. I don't know why it didn't. Stanford has a pretty good offense, fairly good balance on that side of the ball. Stanford defense in my opinion is average but not bad at all. Has Oregon faced a running back like Toby Gerhart a really power guy? Somebody that they are going to give the ball to 20+ times. TOP and field position could be a very big key to this game. I guess I would look at Oregon and Stanford's punting/kicking units. What are both teams average starting field position. I think the game looks really easy. But I could easily see this being like a 24-20 type game. I understand what your saying about rather being 9 or 10. Stanford is really good on 3rd downs. Oregon's defense isn't bad on 3rd downs. I guess the big key for Oregon on defense is putting Stanford in 3rd and longs, and not giving them 3rd and 1 2 3 or 4s all game long. Stanford can pick those up. So getting off the field is going to be big for Oregon. I'm not sure man. I just don't think I'm going to play this game. It didn't stick out. I've looked into this game a lot the last 2 days. I'm going to have to find some sort of edge for me to lay the chalk here.
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Personally I don't know why the line is so low. Really doesn't make much sense to me. Maybe expecting a let down after such a huge emotional win. I'm not really sure man. Personally when I looked through the games this game really didn't stick out to me, which is really weird, because I figured it would. I don't know why it didn't. Stanford has a pretty good offense, fairly good balance on that side of the ball. Stanford defense in my opinion is average but not bad at all. Has Oregon faced a running back like Toby Gerhart a really power guy? Somebody that they are going to give the ball to 20+ times. TOP and field position could be a very big key to this game. I guess I would look at Oregon and Stanford's punting/kicking units. What are both teams average starting field position. I think the game looks really easy. But I could easily see this being like a 24-20 type game. I understand what your saying about rather being 9 or 10. Stanford is really good on 3rd downs. Oregon's defense isn't bad on 3rd downs. I guess the big key for Oregon on defense is putting Stanford in 3rd and longs, and not giving them 3rd and 1 2 3 or 4s all game long. Stanford can pick those up. So getting off the field is going to be big for Oregon. I'm not sure man. I just don't think I'm going to play this game. It didn't stick out. I've looked into this game a lot the last 2 days. I'm going to have to find some sort of edge for me to lay the chalk here.
thanks Whodey i appreciate it. Line went up to -6.5 so I felt i just had to pull the trigger. Oregon-6.5( 5U) also tailing your Temple play (-14.5) tooka couple early plays all 1 unit BG+3, Oklahoma-7.5 ECU+13 (maybe couple more if goes to 14) Houston-3, USC-11.5, and virgina +14hook . Really liking alot of favorite this week. Just wanted to get some small plays in bud before lines move all over the place. I have cuse getting 22 might playit. I appreciate your thoughts. Thinking bout laying somemore on ECU, USC, and maybe tailing your A & M play.
look forward to the Notre Dame line and another winning week
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thanks Whodey i appreciate it. Line went up to -6.5 so I felt i just had to pull the trigger. Oregon-6.5( 5U) also tailing your Temple play (-14.5) tooka couple early plays all 1 unit BG+3, Oklahoma-7.5 ECU+13 (maybe couple more if goes to 14) Houston-3, USC-11.5, and virgina +14hook . Really liking alot of favorite this week. Just wanted to get some small plays in bud before lines move all over the place. I have cuse getting 22 might playit. I appreciate your thoughts. Thinking bout laying somemore on ECU, USC, and maybe tailing your A & M play.
look forward to the Notre Dame line and another winning week
your card looks tasty! probably gonna tail you again this weeknd!!! keep it HOT!
I like the way things are looking at this point as well. As well as I don't recommend tailing me at any point. I'm flattered that you think I'm good enough to do such a thing though. Hopefully I won't disappoint. I'm confident though in myself. So we will just have to see.
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Quote Originally Posted by BullyBoss:
your card looks tasty! probably gonna tail you again this weeknd!!! keep it HOT!
I like the way things are looking at this point as well. As well as I don't recommend tailing me at any point. I'm flattered that you think I'm good enough to do such a thing though. Hopefully I won't disappoint. I'm confident though in myself. So we will just have to see.
thanks Whodey i appreciate it. Line went up to -6.5 so I felt i just had to pull the trigger. Oregon-6.5( 5U) also tailing your Temple play (-14.5) tooka couple early plays all 1 unit BG+3, Oklahoma-7.5 ECU+13 (maybe couple more if goes to 14) Houston-3, USC-11.5, and virgina +14hook . Really liking alot of favorite this week. Just wanted to get some small plays in bud before lines move all over the place. I have cuse getting 22 might playit. I appreciate your thoughts. Thinking bout laying somemore on ECU, USC, and maybe tailing your A & M play.
look forward to the Notre Dame line and another winning week
The thing about liking a lot of favorites...really doesn't matter. I mean again, when people say you like to many favorites the logic is just irritating. Because well if you find the good favorites and get good lines that have value what the hell is the big deal. I have a lot of favorites on this card and normally I'd be beating the shit out of myself for doing so. I really haven't found many dogs that I like though at this point. UCLA is a solid play man. Locker is questionable. Don't think he goes...but even if he does I don't think that they cover this anyhow. Washington's injury list is as long as Lindsey Lohan's drugs of choice list. UCLA rolls.
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Quote Originally Posted by paintguy:
thanks Whodey i appreciate it. Line went up to -6.5 so I felt i just had to pull the trigger. Oregon-6.5( 5U) also tailing your Temple play (-14.5) tooka couple early plays all 1 unit BG+3, Oklahoma-7.5 ECU+13 (maybe couple more if goes to 14) Houston-3, USC-11.5, and virgina +14hook . Really liking alot of favorite this week. Just wanted to get some small plays in bud before lines move all over the place. I have cuse getting 22 might playit. I appreciate your thoughts. Thinking bout laying somemore on ECU, USC, and maybe tailing your A & M play.
look forward to the Notre Dame line and another winning week
The thing about liking a lot of favorites...really doesn't matter. I mean again, when people say you like to many favorites the logic is just irritating. Because well if you find the good favorites and get good lines that have value what the hell is the big deal. I have a lot of favorites on this card and normally I'd be beating the shit out of myself for doing so. I really haven't found many dogs that I like though at this point. UCLA is a solid play man. Locker is questionable. Don't think he goes...but even if he does I don't think that they cover this anyhow. Washington's injury list is as long as Lindsey Lohan's drugs of choice list. UCLA rolls.
Always hope to hit 70%. On a few of these. A&M line movement has me confused. Oh well. Take a really good look at UCLA this week my man. I think you might like it.
Always hope to hit 70%. On a few of these. A&M line movement has me confused. Oh well. Take a really good look at UCLA this week my man. I think you might like it.
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Btw loving some of your picks and also wondering if you would play temple-14.5.?
. UCLA rolls.
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