The following teams on a neutral field with full health I would take over Notre Dame:
Alabama
Oregon
LSU
South Carolina
Florida
Texas A&M
Ohio State
Georgia, Stanford, USC - Tossup
The top 7 teams are clearly better than Notre Dame in my opinion. People will say im crazy for having USC and Stanford as toss ups as ND beat both but consider they beat USC with a backup QB and won by 9 pts and only scored 22 pts on USC's defense which has been shredded by many PAC 12 teams. Notre Dame should have won tonight by 21 pts if they were a legit title team. Also, they beat Stanford in South Bend on a controversial td call in OT and Stanford had Nunes starting at QB than and not Hogan. Georgia still has proven nothing as they were smoked by South Carolina and barely beat Florida in the sloppiest game this season. Georgia hasnt beaten one other good team as they didn't play LSU, Bama, Texas A+M in conference play and they play nobody out of conference. However, Georgia still has a great defense and Aaron Murray is much better than crappy Everett Golson.
Notre Dame beat USC with a backup QB by 9 pts, Pitt in triple OT by 3 pts, Michigan by 7 pts despite being outgained by over 150 yds, BYU by 3 pts, and Purdue by 3 pts. These 5 teams were not good with the exception of a borderline top 25 USC team that was ravaged by injuries and depth issues all year.
Notre Dame will be destroyed by Bama in the title game. Its going to look very similar to the 41-14 beatdown Bama put on Michigan early this yr. Its simply men vs boys in this one. ND does have some great talent in their front 7 in Teo, Nix, Tuitt, and Kapron Lewis-Moore but they cant hold up for 60 mins vs that Bama OL w/Lacy and Yeldon running the ball down their throat. Mccarron also has 2 ints all season and this is the best Bama offense Saban has ever had avg 38 ppg in SEC play.
I don't expect ND to score more than 3-6 pts in this game. Bama's front 7 will clog their run game. They havent faced a Jesse Williams or Damien Square yet. ND has two good Rbs and a good TE in Eifert but their WRs will be blanketed by Milliner and the others at CB just like when Michigan played Bama and Roundtree and Gallon couldnt get open.
Bama 38 ND 6
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The following teams on a neutral field with full health I would take over Notre Dame:
Alabama
Oregon
LSU
South Carolina
Florida
Texas A&M
Ohio State
Georgia, Stanford, USC - Tossup
The top 7 teams are clearly better than Notre Dame in my opinion. People will say im crazy for having USC and Stanford as toss ups as ND beat both but consider they beat USC with a backup QB and won by 9 pts and only scored 22 pts on USC's defense which has been shredded by many PAC 12 teams. Notre Dame should have won tonight by 21 pts if they were a legit title team. Also, they beat Stanford in South Bend on a controversial td call in OT and Stanford had Nunes starting at QB than and not Hogan. Georgia still has proven nothing as they were smoked by South Carolina and barely beat Florida in the sloppiest game this season. Georgia hasnt beaten one other good team as they didn't play LSU, Bama, Texas A+M in conference play and they play nobody out of conference. However, Georgia still has a great defense and Aaron Murray is much better than crappy Everett Golson.
Notre Dame beat USC with a backup QB by 9 pts, Pitt in triple OT by 3 pts, Michigan by 7 pts despite being outgained by over 150 yds, BYU by 3 pts, and Purdue by 3 pts. These 5 teams were not good with the exception of a borderline top 25 USC team that was ravaged by injuries and depth issues all year.
Notre Dame will be destroyed by Bama in the title game. Its going to look very similar to the 41-14 beatdown Bama put on Michigan early this yr. Its simply men vs boys in this one. ND does have some great talent in their front 7 in Teo, Nix, Tuitt, and Kapron Lewis-Moore but they cant hold up for 60 mins vs that Bama OL w/Lacy and Yeldon running the ball down their throat. Mccarron also has 2 ints all season and this is the best Bama offense Saban has ever had avg 38 ppg in SEC play.
I don't expect ND to score more than 3-6 pts in this game. Bama's front 7 will clog their run game. They havent faced a Jesse Williams or Damien Square yet. ND has two good Rbs and a good TE in Eifert but their WRs will be blanketed by Milliner and the others at CB just like when Michigan played Bama and Roundtree and Gallon couldnt get open.
doesnt really matter who is better. ND beat everyone they faced, thus the #1 ranking, and the automatic birth in the championship game. All the teams above (except Ohio St), managed to darn up 1 game or more and therefore dont deserve to be in the big game
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doesnt really matter who is better. ND beat everyone they faced, thus the #1 ranking, and the automatic birth in the championship game. All the teams above (except Ohio St), managed to darn up 1 game or more and therefore dont deserve to be in the big game
The following teams on a neutral field with full health I would take over Notre Dame:
Alabama
Oregon
LSU
South Carolina
Florida
Texas A&M
Ohio State
Georgia, Stanford, USC - Tossup
The top 7 teams are clearly better than Notre Dame in my opinion. People will say im crazy for having USC and Stanford as toss ups as ND beat both but consider they beat USC with a backup QB and won by 9 pts and only scored 22 pts on USC's defense which has been shredded by many PAC 12 teams. Notre Dame should have won tonight by 21 pts if they were a legit title team. Also, they beat Stanford in South Bend on a controversial td call in OT and Stanford had Nunes starting at QB than and not Hogan. Georgia still has proven nothing as they were smoked by South Carolina and barely beat Florida in the sloppiest game this season. Georgia hasnt beaten one other good team as they didn't play LSU, Bama, Texas A+M in conference play and they play nobody out of conference. However, Georgia still has a great defense and Aaron Murray is much better than crappy Everett Golson.
Notre Dame beat USC with a backup QB by 9 pts, Pitt in triple OT by 3 pts, Michigan by 7 pts despite being outgained by over 150 yds, BYU by 3 pts, and Purdue by 3 pts. These 5 teams were not good with the exception of a borderline top 25 USC team that was ravaged by injuries and depth issues all year.
Notre Dame will be destroyed by Bama in the title game. Its going to look very similar to the 41-14 beatdown Bama put on Michigan early this yr. Its simply men vs boys in this one. ND does have some great talent in their front 7 in Teo, Nix, Tuitt, and Kapron Lewis-Moore but they cant hold up for 60 mins vs that Bama OL w/Lacy and Yeldon running the ball down their throat. Mccarron also has 2 ints all season and this is the best Bama offense Saban has ever had avg 38 ppg in SEC play.
I don't expect ND to score more than 3-6 pts in this game. Bama's front 7 will clog their run game. They havent faced a Jesse Williams or Damien Square yet. ND has two good Rbs and a good TE in Eifert but their WRs will be blanketed by Milliner and the others at CB just like when Michigan played Bama and Roundtree and Gallon couldnt get open.
Bama 38 ND 6
how much did you lost on USC
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Quote Originally Posted by BigShotBill:
The following teams on a neutral field with full health I would take over Notre Dame:
Alabama
Oregon
LSU
South Carolina
Florida
Texas A&M
Ohio State
Georgia, Stanford, USC - Tossup
The top 7 teams are clearly better than Notre Dame in my opinion. People will say im crazy for having USC and Stanford as toss ups as ND beat both but consider they beat USC with a backup QB and won by 9 pts and only scored 22 pts on USC's defense which has been shredded by many PAC 12 teams. Notre Dame should have won tonight by 21 pts if they were a legit title team. Also, they beat Stanford in South Bend on a controversial td call in OT and Stanford had Nunes starting at QB than and not Hogan. Georgia still has proven nothing as they were smoked by South Carolina and barely beat Florida in the sloppiest game this season. Georgia hasnt beaten one other good team as they didn't play LSU, Bama, Texas A+M in conference play and they play nobody out of conference. However, Georgia still has a great defense and Aaron Murray is much better than crappy Everett Golson.
Notre Dame beat USC with a backup QB by 9 pts, Pitt in triple OT by 3 pts, Michigan by 7 pts despite being outgained by over 150 yds, BYU by 3 pts, and Purdue by 3 pts. These 5 teams were not good with the exception of a borderline top 25 USC team that was ravaged by injuries and depth issues all year.
Notre Dame will be destroyed by Bama in the title game. Its going to look very similar to the 41-14 beatdown Bama put on Michigan early this yr. Its simply men vs boys in this one. ND does have some great talent in their front 7 in Teo, Nix, Tuitt, and Kapron Lewis-Moore but they cant hold up for 60 mins vs that Bama OL w/Lacy and Yeldon running the ball down their throat. Mccarron also has 2 ints all season and this is the best Bama offense Saban has ever had avg 38 ppg in SEC play.
I don't expect ND to score more than 3-6 pts in this game. Bama's front 7 will clog their run game. They havent faced a Jesse Williams or Damien Square yet. ND has two good Rbs and a good TE in Eifert but their WRs will be blanketed by Milliner and the others at CB just like when Michigan played Bama and Roundtree and Gallon couldnt get open.
LSU's DL with Logan, Johnson, Mingo, and Montgomery would destroy ND's OL making them one dimensional and Golson cant throw vs that LSU defensive backfield. LSU stood toe to toe with Bama for 59 mins. This is a solid underrated football team. Only other loss was to Florida in the Swamp. They also beat Texas A+M on the road and SC at home.
If SC has a healthy Lattimore and Clowney they roll on ND. Just too much talent and speed out there w/an improving Connor Shaw. They went into Clemson and won tonight, a better win than anything ND has done this yr. SC also lost to LSU by 2 pts at night in Death Valley! They beat UGA by 4 tds at home. More than ND has done all year.
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Quote Originally Posted by Osirus13:
South Carolina and lsu? No
LSU's DL with Logan, Johnson, Mingo, and Montgomery would destroy ND's OL making them one dimensional and Golson cant throw vs that LSU defensive backfield. LSU stood toe to toe with Bama for 59 mins. This is a solid underrated football team. Only other loss was to Florida in the Swamp. They also beat Texas A+M on the road and SC at home.
If SC has a healthy Lattimore and Clowney they roll on ND. Just too much talent and speed out there w/an improving Connor Shaw. They went into Clemson and won tonight, a better win than anything ND has done this yr. SC also lost to LSU by 2 pts at night in Death Valley! They beat UGA by 4 tds at home. More than ND has done all year.
Didnt bet a dollar on USC all yr. If you would have seen my post in the offseason I said they were the most overrated team in America and I predicted 2-3 losses this season.
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Quote Originally Posted by bad_dog:
how much did you lost on USC
Didnt bet a dollar on USC all yr. If you would have seen my post in the offseason I said they were the most overrated team in America and I predicted 2-3 losses this season.
[Quote: Originally Posted by mbialowas] doesnt really matter who is better. ND beat everyone they faced, thus the #1 ranking, and the automatic birth in the championship game. All the teams above (except Ohio St), managed to darn up 1 game or more and therefore dont deserve to be in the big game [/
Nd got some home cookin to beat Stanford
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[Quote: Originally Posted by mbialowas] doesnt really matter who is better. ND beat everyone they faced, thus the #1 ranking, and the automatic birth in the championship game. All the teams above (except Ohio St), managed to darn up 1 game or more and therefore dont deserve to be in the big game [/
doesnt really matter who is better. ND beat everyone they faced, thus the #1 ranking, and the automatic birth in the championship game. All the teams above (except Ohio St), managed to darn up 1 game or more and therefore dont deserve to be in the big game
Your right ND deserves to be in the title game but just because your ranked number 1 in America doesnt mean your the best team in the country. Was KState the best team in the country last week? Nope.
ND played nobody all yr outside of a solid win vs Oklahoma but even they arent that good as they lost to KSt at home too and barely beat WV who sucks and Ok State. Their other lone good win was a controversial call in OT vs Stanford with Stanford's backup QB. If Hogan played now they would lose.
ND played the easiest schedule I have ever seen for a title team. Its an embarassment this team isnt in a conference.
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Quote Originally Posted by mbialowas:
doesnt really matter who is better. ND beat everyone they faced, thus the #1 ranking, and the automatic birth in the championship game. All the teams above (except Ohio St), managed to darn up 1 game or more and therefore dont deserve to be in the big game
Your right ND deserves to be in the title game but just because your ranked number 1 in America doesnt mean your the best team in the country. Was KState the best team in the country last week? Nope.
ND played nobody all yr outside of a solid win vs Oklahoma but even they arent that good as they lost to KSt at home too and barely beat WV who sucks and Ok State. Their other lone good win was a controversial call in OT vs Stanford with Stanford's backup QB. If Hogan played now they would lose.
ND played the easiest schedule I have ever seen for a title team. Its an embarassment this team isnt in a conference.
ND played the games they had scheduled and won their games
That's what you do every year. Play who's on your schedule and win. If you win and you played a tough schedule you get in.
Until we get a playoff it's what we got. Give the Irish some credit
I get what you are saying but I don't want to hear any of this talk when they lose by 3-4 tds in January. I just hate the fact that ND is too arrogant to get into a conference and instead would rather play their little cupcake schedule every yr.
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Quote Originally Posted by HookEmHorns22:
I think you should give it up
ND played the games they had scheduled and won their games
That's what you do every year. Play who's on your schedule and win. If you win and you played a tough schedule you get in.
Until we get a playoff it's what we got. Give the Irish some credit
I get what you are saying but I don't want to hear any of this talk when they lose by 3-4 tds in January. I just hate the fact that ND is too arrogant to get into a conference and instead would rather play their little cupcake schedule every yr.
I get what you are saying but I don't want to hear any of this talk when they lose by 3-4 tds in January. I just hate the fact that ND is too arrogant to get into a conference and instead would rather play their little cupcake schedule every yr.
LOOK AT THEIR SCHEDULE THIS YEAR
It wasn't a cupcake schedule
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Quote Originally Posted by BigShotBill:
I get what you are saying but I don't want to hear any of this talk when they lose by 3-4 tds in January. I just hate the fact that ND is too arrogant to get into a conference and instead would rather play their little cupcake schedule every yr.
Yes TY covers handicappers for touting the SEC bigtime, and keep up the "great" work saying how "bad" ND is all the way to kickoff in January
9-10 points is the kiss of death for a favorite IMO. Game is in the South (Miami). ND has a great goal line defense, and pulled off stops in nearly every game this year. Chances are, they will do it again in the BCS Championship in January. They keep themselves in every game. They don't turn the ball over.
I like ND as a team, however I will wait and wait and wait, until gameday, for a final decision. But please covers' scumbags, keep touting away on the SEC. I'm starting to like the reverse feel that's already developing.
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Yes TY covers handicappers for touting the SEC bigtime, and keep up the "great" work saying how "bad" ND is all the way to kickoff in January
9-10 points is the kiss of death for a favorite IMO. Game is in the South (Miami). ND has a great goal line defense, and pulled off stops in nearly every game this year. Chances are, they will do it again in the BCS Championship in January. They keep themselves in every game. They don't turn the ball over.
I like ND as a team, however I will wait and wait and wait, until gameday, for a final decision. But please covers' scumbags, keep touting away on the SEC. I'm starting to like the reverse feel that's already developing.
I get what you are saying but I don't want to hear any of this talk when they lose by 3-4 tds in January. I just hate the fact that ND is too arrogant to get into a conference and instead would rather play their little cupcake schedule every yr.
Disagree wholeheartedly with this. Notre Dame had one of the toughest schedules ever coming into the year. There's a reason they were 80-1 or something to win the national championship and it's because most looked at the schedule and pegged them for 3-4 losses. It's not their fault Michigan State, USC, and BYU failed to live up to expectations. Before the year those looked like extremely tough games.
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Quote Originally Posted by BigShotBill:
I get what you are saying but I don't want to hear any of this talk when they lose by 3-4 tds in January. I just hate the fact that ND is too arrogant to get into a conference and instead would rather play their little cupcake schedule every yr.
Disagree wholeheartedly with this. Notre Dame had one of the toughest schedules ever coming into the year. There's a reason they were 80-1 or something to win the national championship and it's because most looked at the schedule and pegged them for 3-4 losses. It's not their fault Michigan State, USC, and BYU failed to live up to expectations. Before the year those looked like extremely tough games.
Notre Dame will be destroyed by Bama in the title game. Its going to look very similar to the 41-14 beatdown Bama put on Michigan early this yr. Its simply men vs boys in this one. ND does have some great talent in their front 7 in Teo, Nix, Tuitt, and Kapron Lewis-Moore but they cant hold up for 60 mins vs that Bama OL w/Lacy and Yeldon running the ball down their throat. Mccarron also has 2 ints all season and this is the best Bama offense Saban has ever had avg 38 ppg in SEC play.
You're right about this, Bill. The SEC simply outshines all other conferences in its caliber of offense and defense, with Bama's only weakness being their strength of schedule, and their best asset being their scoring Defense (ranked #50 and #1 respectively). I nevertheless would like to see Georgia beat Bama in the SEC championship, simply because I'd rather see a different team in this BCS, and to showcase the better passing offense of the dogs.
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Quote Originally Posted by BigShotBill:
Notre Dame will be destroyed by Bama in the title game. Its going to look very similar to the 41-14 beatdown Bama put on Michigan early this yr. Its simply men vs boys in this one. ND does have some great talent in their front 7 in Teo, Nix, Tuitt, and Kapron Lewis-Moore but they cant hold up for 60 mins vs that Bama OL w/Lacy and Yeldon running the ball down their throat. Mccarron also has 2 ints all season and this is the best Bama offense Saban has ever had avg 38 ppg in SEC play.
You're right about this, Bill. The SEC simply outshines all other conferences in its caliber of offense and defense, with Bama's only weakness being their strength of schedule, and their best asset being their scoring Defense (ranked #50 and #1 respectively). I nevertheless would like to see Georgia beat Bama in the SEC championship, simply because I'd rather see a different team in this BCS, and to showcase the better passing offense of the dogs.
Honestly Alabama has not played a tough schedule this season. Look at some of the soft teams:
Home/Neutral:
Michigan Western Kentucky Florida Atlantic Mississippi Mississippi State - exposed as a huge fraud Western Carolina Auburn
Road:
Arkansas Missouri Tennessee
The only two games they played against good teams they had both teams moving the ball on them and covered neither, lost one SU and would have lost the other if LSU had anyone other had Les Miles coaching them.
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Honestly Alabama has not played a tough schedule this season. Look at some of the soft teams:
Home/Neutral:
Michigan Western Kentucky Florida Atlantic Mississippi Mississippi State - exposed as a huge fraud Western Carolina Auburn
Road:
Arkansas Missouri Tennessee
The only two games they played against good teams they had both teams moving the ball on them and covered neither, lost one SU and would have lost the other if LSU had anyone other had Les Miles coaching them.
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