you must of not read a post that i made after that saying
You were right O brien is Locked in:
The addendum, which was published by the Centre Daily Times, reads: "Any sanction by the NCAA of a) loss of scholarships or b) bowl eligibility due to the actions of the previous staff or lack of institutional control prior to 2012 will immediately result in an automatic extension of coach's contract at 2016 total compensation and bonus package in years equal to the number of years of the sanctions.”
O’Brien will be paid about $2.3 million per year in the five-year deal; that includes a base salary of $950,000 year and annual 5 percent increases. He also will receive $1 million annually from radio and TV revenue and will take in $350,000 from Penn State’s contract with Nike, according to the Centre Daily Times.
I agree..Obrien is locked in!!!!
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you must of not read a post that i made after that saying
You were right O brien is Locked in:
The addendum, which was published by the Centre Daily Times, reads: "Any sanction by the NCAA of a) loss of scholarships or b) bowl eligibility due to the actions of the previous staff or lack of institutional control prior to 2012 will immediately result in an automatic extension of coach's contract at 2016 total compensation and bonus package in years equal to the number of years of the sanctions.”
O’Brien will be paid about $2.3 million per year in the five-year deal; that includes a base salary of $950,000 year and annual 5 percent increases. He also will receive $1 million annually from radio and TV revenue and will take in $350,000 from Penn State’s contract with Nike, according to the Centre Daily Times.
That being said...alot of $$ in NCAAF to be made, and if there are nearly as many Job openings as last year (around 30..more than half before the season ended) i dont think its too much of a stretch to say he would be on some candidate lists!!! Not too many coaches out there Coordinators or otherwise that are too attractive right now.....My list would include Charlie strong and Bill O Brien, but what do i know????
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That being said...alot of $$ in NCAAF to be made, and if there are nearly as many Job openings as last year (around 30..more than half before the season ended) i dont think its too much of a stretch to say he would be on some candidate lists!!! Not too many coaches out there Coordinators or otherwise that are too attractive right now.....My list would include Charlie strong and Bill O Brien, but what do i know????
Fans and programs get real pissy and impatient, if you over-promise and under-deliver!!!! $$$ is no object to:
Texas--- (has 20 year contract with Longhorn network and Mack Brown put his foot in his mouth about that and got blown out by OU and Lost to OU too many times.
Auburn--- (1-6...Won it all on the shoulders of a player the boosters got there with $$?? (allegedly)) Loss to Ole miss would be epically bad....and Bama will beat them by 50 at the end of the year!!
Arkansas--- (recently spent a fortune on upgrades)
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Fans and programs get real pissy and impatient, if you over-promise and under-deliver!!!! $$$ is no object to:
Texas--- (has 20 year contract with Longhorn network and Mack Brown put his foot in his mouth about that and got blown out by OU and Lost to OU too many times.
Auburn--- (1-6...Won it all on the shoulders of a player the boosters got there with $$?? (allegedly)) Loss to Ole miss would be epically bad....and Bama will beat them by 50 at the end of the year!!
Arkansas--- (recently spent a fortune on upgrades)
In a rational world, the numerous revelations in Jerry Sandusky scandal of the past week or so would have been headline news because the entire media narrative created against Joe Paterno would have been reported as dramatically collapsing. If the media was remotely fair or cared about actual facts, there would already be numerous apologies and calls for the Paterno statue to be restored to a place of honor.
In case you missed it (thanks to the media blackout it would be very easy for you to have done so), here is a quick review.
The prosecution in the Sandusky case has now acknowledged in court that Victim 2 (from the Mike McQueary episode) is “unidentified.” Essentially they are saying that they knew the person claiming to be Victim 2 existed all along, but they didn’t call him to testify because he didn’t back up McQueary’s version of events. They would now rather claim that this victim is lying (something usually not allowed in this story under the laws of political correctness) and have there be no victim at all, than to have this particular alleged victim be the actual “10 year old boy in the shower.”
Victim 2’s own lawyers, in response to Gary Schultz’s lawyer saying the current Victim 2 is not credible, acknowledged that, just as Sandusky attorney Joe Amendola said almost a year ago, Victim 2 has gone on record saying that nothing sexual happened in the shower that night.
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In a rational world, the numerous revelations in Jerry Sandusky scandal of the past week or so would have been headline news because the entire media narrative created against Joe Paterno would have been reported as dramatically collapsing. If the media was remotely fair or cared about actual facts, there would already be numerous apologies and calls for the Paterno statue to be restored to a place of honor.
In case you missed it (thanks to the media blackout it would be very easy for you to have done so), here is a quick review.
The prosecution in the Sandusky case has now acknowledged in court that Victim 2 (from the Mike McQueary episode) is “unidentified.” Essentially they are saying that they knew the person claiming to be Victim 2 existed all along, but they didn’t call him to testify because he didn’t back up McQueary’s version of events. They would now rather claim that this victim is lying (something usually not allowed in this story under the laws of political correctness) and have there be no victim at all, than to have this particular alleged victim be the actual “10 year old boy in the shower.”
Victim 2’s own lawyers, in response to Gary Schultz’s lawyer saying the current Victim 2 is not credible, acknowledged that, just as Sandusky attorney Joe Amendola said almost a year ago, Victim 2 has gone on record saying that nothing sexual happened in the shower that night.
Victim 1 (the one whose allegations began the final grand jury investigation) released a book and did his first interview with ABC’s 20/20. As part of that program, ABC News went after the school administrators who first knew about the charges but who proactively told the boy and his mother that their charges were not true. Incredibly, these administrators are NOT from Penn State, but rather from Victim 1’s high school. There was no mention at all, from him or his mother, of Penn State or Joe Paterno being culpable and it is implied in ABC's report that the family still has a Penn State flag hanging from their porch.
Finally, Victim 1 has done a local interview and flat out said that he does NOT blame Penn State at all for what happened to him. It appears that his mother concurs in this assessment (though it is difficult to know for sure since ABC didn’t appear to ask her about this, though I have a strong suspicion that they did indeed ask and just didn’t like the answer they got).
This last point is incredibly important because a HUGE weapon which was used by the media to shift the narrative away from the ratings death of Jerry Sandusky and towards the ratings bonanza of Joe Paterno in that fateful first full week of November 2011 was the blatant misrepresentation of the situation with regard to Victim 1 and his mother.
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Victim 1 (the one whose allegations began the final grand jury investigation) released a book and did his first interview with ABC’s 20/20. As part of that program, ABC News went after the school administrators who first knew about the charges but who proactively told the boy and his mother that their charges were not true. Incredibly, these administrators are NOT from Penn State, but rather from Victim 1’s high school. There was no mention at all, from him or his mother, of Penn State or Joe Paterno being culpable and it is implied in ABC's report that the family still has a Penn State flag hanging from their porch.
Finally, Victim 1 has done a local interview and flat out said that he does NOT blame Penn State at all for what happened to him. It appears that his mother concurs in this assessment (though it is difficult to know for sure since ABC didn’t appear to ask her about this, though I have a strong suspicion that they did indeed ask and just didn’t like the answer they got).
This last point is incredibly important because a HUGE weapon which was used by the media to shift the narrative away from the ratings death of Jerry Sandusky and towards the ratings bonanza of Joe Paterno in that fateful first full week of November 2011 was the blatant misrepresentation of the situation with regard to Victim 1 and his mother.
Over the past couple of days, I have been watching hour after hour of ESPN’s coverage from that those first few days as research for our proposed documentary on this controversy. By far the biggest story of the morning of November 8th(the key date in the entire affair as that was when Paterno’s press conference was suddenly canceled, apparently by BOT member John Surma, beginning the dramatic domino effect leading to where we are today) was an article by, you guessed it, Sara Ganim, which had the very striking headline, “Mothers of Two of Jerry Sandusky’s Alleged Victims Lash Out At Penn State Officials Handling of Scandal.”
The article’s premise that the moms of two victims (one of which was the mother of Victim 1) were speaking out strongly against Penn State was repeated numerous times on ESPN and “Penn State Officials” was expanded to somehow include Joe Paterno. There was just one little problem with this story: it wasn’t really true.
It seems very clear here that a very poor/biased headline was all anyone at ESPN bothered to read because when you actually peruse the article itself, it is obvious that there is absolutely no way to justify their comments as coming close to specifically condemning Paterno.
First of all, Paterno’s name is only actually mentioned once by only one of the mothers (the mother of Victim 6, the 1998 victim). The mother of victim 1 is clearly more upset at the officials at Central Mountain High School (who, bizarrely, were initially praised by both the Attorney General and Sports Illustrated) than at Penn State. This interpretation of her comments is further backed up by an incredibly similar story (which also blames Penn State in the headline but then doesn’t back that up in the actual article) in the Huffington Post where it is very apparent, well before here son just confirmed it on TV, that the real culprits in minds of the family of Victim 1 were NOT at Penn State.
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Over the past couple of days, I have been watching hour after hour of ESPN’s coverage from that those first few days as research for our proposed documentary on this controversy. By far the biggest story of the morning of November 8th(the key date in the entire affair as that was when Paterno’s press conference was suddenly canceled, apparently by BOT member John Surma, beginning the dramatic domino effect leading to where we are today) was an article by, you guessed it, Sara Ganim, which had the very striking headline, “Mothers of Two of Jerry Sandusky’s Alleged Victims Lash Out At Penn State Officials Handling of Scandal.”
The article’s premise that the moms of two victims (one of which was the mother of Victim 1) were speaking out strongly against Penn State was repeated numerous times on ESPN and “Penn State Officials” was expanded to somehow include Joe Paterno. There was just one little problem with this story: it wasn’t really true.
It seems very clear here that a very poor/biased headline was all anyone at ESPN bothered to read because when you actually peruse the article itself, it is obvious that there is absolutely no way to justify their comments as coming close to specifically condemning Paterno.
First of all, Paterno’s name is only actually mentioned once by only one of the mothers (the mother of Victim 6, the 1998 victim). The mother of victim 1 is clearly more upset at the officials at Central Mountain High School (who, bizarrely, were initially praised by both the Attorney General and Sports Illustrated) than at Penn State. This interpretation of her comments is further backed up by an incredibly similar story (which also blames Penn State in the headline but then doesn’t back that up in the actual article) in the Huffington Post where it is very apparent, well before here son just confirmed it on TV, that the real culprits in minds of the family of Victim 1 were NOT at Penn State.
It should also be pointed out that while the mother of Victim 6 clearly was indeed irate at Penn State officials (mostly at McQueary, with Paterno almost an afterthought), it is doubtful that she had nearly all the information at that time which casts the blame for that failure far more on law enforcement than on Penn State. It is also important to note that ESPN used her comments about what McQueary allegedly saw so that the viewers were left with the impression that the 1998 allegation also involved rape (something STILL being misreported, even after the reporter apologized to me for it on Twitter, by Sports Illustrated) and that Sandusky had “admitted it” to her, which it most certainly not what really happened.
The bottom line here is that ESPN (mostly through reporter Tom Rinaldi, who is actually very friendly with the Paterno family) gave the misimpression that two mothers were blaming Penn State and Joe Paterno for their sons being raped and that just wasn’t true. This was a critical development in shifting the momentum of the story just before Paterno’s press conference was canceled and then all hell broke loose. I have texted Rinaldi twice to ask him about his reporting which created this misimpression, but, shockingly, I have not gotten a response.
While most of the media has been silent when it comes to all of these extraordinary developments, by far the most amusing reports have come from the same family of tabloid websites.
The first article, by https://deadspin.com/5952991/no-one-can-agree-on-anything-about-the-man-who-says-hes-jerry-sanduskys-penn-states-shower-victim (written by a reporter with whom I have exchanged at least 200 emails and a dozen phone calls since this whole thing began), laughably attempts to claim that all that has recently transpired with Victim 2 is just so darn confusing that no one can figure out what is really going on. Their headline absurdly declares “No One Can Agree on Anything about the Man Who Says He is Jerry Sandusky’s Penn State Shower Victim.”
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It should also be pointed out that while the mother of Victim 6 clearly was indeed irate at Penn State officials (mostly at McQueary, with Paterno almost an afterthought), it is doubtful that she had nearly all the information at that time which casts the blame for that failure far more on law enforcement than on Penn State. It is also important to note that ESPN used her comments about what McQueary allegedly saw so that the viewers were left with the impression that the 1998 allegation also involved rape (something STILL being misreported, even after the reporter apologized to me for it on Twitter, by Sports Illustrated) and that Sandusky had “admitted it” to her, which it most certainly not what really happened.
The bottom line here is that ESPN (mostly through reporter Tom Rinaldi, who is actually very friendly with the Paterno family) gave the misimpression that two mothers were blaming Penn State and Joe Paterno for their sons being raped and that just wasn’t true. This was a critical development in shifting the momentum of the story just before Paterno’s press conference was canceled and then all hell broke loose. I have texted Rinaldi twice to ask him about his reporting which created this misimpression, but, shockingly, I have not gotten a response.
While most of the media has been silent when it comes to all of these extraordinary developments, by far the most amusing reports have come from the same family of tabloid websites.
The first article, by https://deadspin.com/5952991/no-one-can-agree-on-anything-about-the-man-who-says-hes-jerry-sanduskys-penn-states-shower-victim (written by a reporter with whom I have exchanged at least 200 emails and a dozen phone calls since this whole thing began), laughably attempts to claim that all that has recently transpired with Victim 2 is just so darn confusing that no one can figure out what is really going on. Their headline absurdly declares “No One Can Agree on Anything about the Man Who Says He is Jerry Sandusky’s Penn State Shower Victim.”
First of all, NO ONE has ever publicly claimed that Victim 2 said he was abused by Sandusky the night McQueary saw him in the shower, so the use of the words “shower victim” are not accurate. But more importantly, as I emailed the reporter (with no response) there ARE very important things that EVERYONE agrees on with regard to Victim 2.
The reality is that Joe Amendola, an FBI-trained investigator, the prosecution, Gary Schultz’s attorney, and Victim 2’s attorneys ALL agree that the person claiming to be the “10 year old boy in the shower” has said, on the record, after the indictments, that he was NOT abused by Sandusky that night. All of these parties also appear to agree that the prosecution knew about his existence all along and never called him to testify because they didn’t like his story.
In a world where truth mattered, that would be a huge news story. Instead, Deadspin simply tries to pretend that this is all so confusing that we should all just move along and not try and figure it all out (after all, we might have to revisit all of our tidy conclusions about this case which made us all so much money over the last year).
Then, after the ABC 20/20 story on Victim 1, Deadspin’s sister site Gawker actually had the audacity to mock ABC’s reporter Chris Cuomo for engaging in “gotcha journalism” by chasing after the former football coach and the principal of the high school where Victim 1’s stories of abuse were initially not believed.
Let me get this straight, the entire media industrial complex spends months gleefully crucifying Joe Paterno and no one raises a finger to say that maybe we’re going overboard here. Then when the two people the mother of victim 1 blames most for allowing what happened to her son to occur finally get asked a couple of questions, that is criticized as media excess? What planet are we on here?
Eventually someone in the mainstream news media is going to stop treating bombshells like sparks in the daylight and start putting all of these pieces together. In the meantime, we will continue to do our best to set the record straight.
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First of all, NO ONE has ever publicly claimed that Victim 2 said he was abused by Sandusky the night McQueary saw him in the shower, so the use of the words “shower victim” are not accurate. But more importantly, as I emailed the reporter (with no response) there ARE very important things that EVERYONE agrees on with regard to Victim 2.
The reality is that Joe Amendola, an FBI-trained investigator, the prosecution, Gary Schultz’s attorney, and Victim 2’s attorneys ALL agree that the person claiming to be the “10 year old boy in the shower” has said, on the record, after the indictments, that he was NOT abused by Sandusky that night. All of these parties also appear to agree that the prosecution knew about his existence all along and never called him to testify because they didn’t like his story.
In a world where truth mattered, that would be a huge news story. Instead, Deadspin simply tries to pretend that this is all so confusing that we should all just move along and not try and figure it all out (after all, we might have to revisit all of our tidy conclusions about this case which made us all so much money over the last year).
Then, after the ABC 20/20 story on Victim 1, Deadspin’s sister site Gawker actually had the audacity to mock ABC’s reporter Chris Cuomo for engaging in “gotcha journalism” by chasing after the former football coach and the principal of the high school where Victim 1’s stories of abuse were initially not believed.
Let me get this straight, the entire media industrial complex spends months gleefully crucifying Joe Paterno and no one raises a finger to say that maybe we’re going overboard here. Then when the two people the mother of victim 1 blames most for allowing what happened to her son to occur finally get asked a couple of questions, that is criticized as media excess? What planet are we on here?
Eventually someone in the mainstream news media is going to stop treating bombshells like sparks in the daylight and start putting all of these pieces together. In the meantime, we will continue to do our best to set the record straight.
First of all, NO ONE has ever publicly claimed that Victim 2 said he was abused by Sandusky the night McQueary saw him in the shower, so the use of the words “shower victim” are not accurate.
The court of public opinion is that McQueery saw rape in the shower told his daddy and Paterno....and nothing happened, does it really matter what was proved??? OJ killed his wife and got off, does that mean people think he didnt kill his wife??
Sex abuse victims dont really like to talk about it!! Am i shocked that Sandusky is a Pedo..no...im shocked at the response!!
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In response to thisguyiswise:
First of all, NO ONE has ever publicly claimed that Victim 2 said he was abused by Sandusky the night McQueary saw him in the shower, so the use of the words “shower victim” are not accurate.
The court of public opinion is that McQueery saw rape in the shower told his daddy and Paterno....and nothing happened, does it really matter what was proved??? OJ killed his wife and got off, does that mean people think he didnt kill his wife??
Sex abuse victims dont really like to talk about it!! Am i shocked that Sandusky is a Pedo..no...im shocked at the response!!
NOPE ITS NICE AND WARM AND FUZZY ... OH AND SINCE WE BEEN WINNING ITS EVEN BETTER ... HOPE THAT BOTHERS YOU ... HOPE EVEY TIME PENN STATE SCORE YOU THROW YOUR REMOTE ...
CAUSE WE ARE NOW AND WE WILL ALWAY BE ....
WE ARE PENNSTATE!
PENN STATE!!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by Teaser78:
NOPE ITS NICE AND WARM AND FUZZY ... OH AND SINCE WE BEEN WINNING ITS EVEN BETTER ... HOPE THAT BOTHERS YOU ... HOPE EVEY TIME PENN STATE SCORE YOU THROW YOUR REMOTE ...
First of all, NO ONE has ever publicly claimed that Victim 2 said he was abused by Sandusky the night McQueary saw him in the shower, so the use of the words “shower victim” are not accurate. But more importantly, as I emailed the reporter (with no response) there ARE very important things that EVERYONE agrees on with regard to Victim 2.
The reality is that Joe Amendola, an FBI-trained investigator, the prosecution, Gary Schultz’s attorney, and Victim 2’s attorneys ALL agree that the person claiming to be the “10 year old boy in the shower” has said, on the record, after the indictments, that he was NOT abused by Sandusky that night. All of these parties also appear to agree that the prosecution knew about his existence all along and never called him to testify because they didn’t like his story.
In a world where truth mattered, that would be a huge news story. Instead, Deadspin simply tries to pretend that this is all so confusing that we should all just move along and not try and figure it all out (after all, we might have to revisit all of our tidy conclusions about this case which made us all so much money over the last year).
Then, after the ABC 20/20 story on Victim 1, Deadspin’s sister site Gawker actually had the audacity to mock ABC’s reporter Chris Cuomo for engaging in “gotcha journalism” by chasing after the former football coach and the principal of the high school where Victim 1’s stories of abuse were initially not believed.
Let me get this straight, the entire media industrial complex spends months gleefully crucifying Joe Paterno and no one raises a finger to say that maybe we’re going overboard here. Then when the two people the mother of victim 1 blames most for allowing what happened to her son to occur finally get asked a couple of questions, that is criticized as media excess? What planet are we on here?
Eventually someone in the mainstream news media is going to stop treating bombshells like sparks in the daylight and start putting all of these pieces together. In the meantime, we will continue to do our best to set the record straight.
Man you are in denial. I hope Penn ST. digs outta this but you sir are ridiculous. They got exactly what they deserved punishment wise. And to have that many victims doesnt even matter. IF YOU RAPE 1 LITTLE BOY YOU SHOULD SPEND LIFE IN JAIL AND ROT IN HELL. Why are you making excuses for him?
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Quote Originally Posted by thisguyiswise:
First of all, NO ONE has ever publicly claimed that Victim 2 said he was abused by Sandusky the night McQueary saw him in the shower, so the use of the words “shower victim” are not accurate. But more importantly, as I emailed the reporter (with no response) there ARE very important things that EVERYONE agrees on with regard to Victim 2.
The reality is that Joe Amendola, an FBI-trained investigator, the prosecution, Gary Schultz’s attorney, and Victim 2’s attorneys ALL agree that the person claiming to be the “10 year old boy in the shower” has said, on the record, after the indictments, that he was NOT abused by Sandusky that night. All of these parties also appear to agree that the prosecution knew about his existence all along and never called him to testify because they didn’t like his story.
In a world where truth mattered, that would be a huge news story. Instead, Deadspin simply tries to pretend that this is all so confusing that we should all just move along and not try and figure it all out (after all, we might have to revisit all of our tidy conclusions about this case which made us all so much money over the last year).
Then, after the ABC 20/20 story on Victim 1, Deadspin’s sister site Gawker actually had the audacity to mock ABC’s reporter Chris Cuomo for engaging in “gotcha journalism” by chasing after the former football coach and the principal of the high school where Victim 1’s stories of abuse were initially not believed.
Let me get this straight, the entire media industrial complex spends months gleefully crucifying Joe Paterno and no one raises a finger to say that maybe we’re going overboard here. Then when the two people the mother of victim 1 blames most for allowing what happened to her son to occur finally get asked a couple of questions, that is criticized as media excess? What planet are we on here?
Eventually someone in the mainstream news media is going to stop treating bombshells like sparks in the daylight and start putting all of these pieces together. In the meantime, we will continue to do our best to set the record straight.
Man you are in denial. I hope Penn ST. digs outta this but you sir are ridiculous. They got exactly what they deserved punishment wise. And to have that many victims doesnt even matter. IF YOU RAPE 1 LITTLE BOY YOU SHOULD SPEND LIFE IN JAIL AND ROT IN HELL. Why are you making excuses for him?
Man you are in denial. I hope Penn ST. digs outta this but you sir are ridiculous. They got exactly what they deserved punishment wise. And to have that many victims doesnt even matter. IF YOU RAPE 1 LITTLE BOY YOU SHOULD SPEND LIFE IN JAIL AND ROT IN HELL. Why are you making excuses for him?
In denial of whom? This is not a defense of Jerry Sandusky if that is what you are thinking. This is a FACT that a rape in the Penn State showers NEVER happened as reported by the media and the DA's use of "anal rape" in the showers was FALSE, denied even by victim 2. If you cant see that this in no way defends Sandusky, his guilt is undeniable, but shows how the media painted penn state WRONGLY as a harbor for child molestations, i cant help you.
The problem is people cannot differentiate that people who provide these CLEAR facts that no rape occurred in the psu showers as the media would have you believe do not defend a sick man in Sandusky. Sandusky guilty is sin. Sandusky raping vic 2 in the showers, re-read the FACTS. It NEVER happened that way.
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Quote Originally Posted by NoWorries21:
Man you are in denial. I hope Penn ST. digs outta this but you sir are ridiculous. They got exactly what they deserved punishment wise. And to have that many victims doesnt even matter. IF YOU RAPE 1 LITTLE BOY YOU SHOULD SPEND LIFE IN JAIL AND ROT IN HELL. Why are you making excuses for him?
In denial of whom? This is not a defense of Jerry Sandusky if that is what you are thinking. This is a FACT that a rape in the Penn State showers NEVER happened as reported by the media and the DA's use of "anal rape" in the showers was FALSE, denied even by victim 2. If you cant see that this in no way defends Sandusky, his guilt is undeniable, but shows how the media painted penn state WRONGLY as a harbor for child molestations, i cant help you.
The problem is people cannot differentiate that people who provide these CLEAR facts that no rape occurred in the psu showers as the media would have you believe do not defend a sick man in Sandusky. Sandusky guilty is sin. Sandusky raping vic 2 in the showers, re-read the FACTS. It NEVER happened that way.
I want to thank capper/dumbup/packers/alias4/alias100 for providing me a place without starting my own thread to get the facts out about this case that has been breaking news the last week.
I look forward to posting more facts from this story as it develops right here. Facts are not speculation, facts are the truth.
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I want to thank capper/dumbup/packers/alias4/alias100 for providing me a place without starting my own thread to get the facts out about this case that has been breaking news the last week.
I look forward to posting more facts from this story as it develops right here. Facts are not speculation, facts are the truth.
In denial of whom? This is not a defense of Jerry Sandusky if that is what you are thinking. This is a FACT that a rape in the Penn State showers NEVER happened as reported by the media and the DA's use of "anal rape" in the showers was FALSE, denied even by victim 2. If you cant see that this in no way defends Sandusky, his guilt is undeniable, but shows how the media painted penn state WRONGLY as a harbor for child molestations, i cant help you.
The problem is people cannot differentiate that people who provide these CLEAR facts that no rape occurred in the psu showers as the media would have you believe do not defend a sick man in Sandusky. Sandusky guilty is sin. Sandusky raping vic 2 in the showers, re-read the FACTS. It NEVER happened that way.
Man I am sorry but whether it happened on campus or not JoePa knew about it. He was the face of the campus and he covered it up. Maybe not to the degree in which the media presents but his death right after shows that. Most people die if they lose the will to live. Penn St is getting what they deserve but at the same time me being a football fan have to appreciate guys like you standing behind your team and moving on. I HATE that some people can talk shit to people that defend Penn St. Its not like you guys had anything to do with what happened. At you are faithful to them where as you have all these bandwagon pussies out there.
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Quote Originally Posted by thisguyiswise:
In denial of whom? This is not a defense of Jerry Sandusky if that is what you are thinking. This is a FACT that a rape in the Penn State showers NEVER happened as reported by the media and the DA's use of "anal rape" in the showers was FALSE, denied even by victim 2. If you cant see that this in no way defends Sandusky, his guilt is undeniable, but shows how the media painted penn state WRONGLY as a harbor for child molestations, i cant help you.
The problem is people cannot differentiate that people who provide these CLEAR facts that no rape occurred in the psu showers as the media would have you believe do not defend a sick man in Sandusky. Sandusky guilty is sin. Sandusky raping vic 2 in the showers, re-read the FACTS. It NEVER happened that way.
Man I am sorry but whether it happened on campus or not JoePa knew about it. He was the face of the campus and he covered it up. Maybe not to the degree in which the media presents but his death right after shows that. Most people die if they lose the will to live. Penn St is getting what they deserve but at the same time me being a football fan have to appreciate guys like you standing behind your team and moving on. I HATE that some people can talk shit to people that defend Penn St. Its not like you guys had anything to do with what happened. At you are faithful to them where as you have all these bandwagon pussies out there.
i dont need to hear pedophile stuff and such constantly and used in a mockery derogatory term.
i have been called that before by capper07 and packers1992 and dont appreciate at all.
they have reported me numerous times for arguments with them. but this is an example that i find disgusting by capper07. and if you match up packers1992, he says verbatim i wont support or watch anything "offensive term." just do some research and you will see what i mean. this must be stopped now!!!!
many people have been sexually abused and it hurts them to hear those words. it is insensitive to many innocent people.
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Covers team
this is exactly what i mean.
i dont need to hear pedophile stuff and such constantly and used in a mockery derogatory term.
i have been called that before by capper07 and packers1992 and dont appreciate at all.
they have reported me numerous times for arguments with them. but this is an example that i find disgusting by capper07. and if you match up packers1992, he says verbatim i wont support or watch anything "offensive term." just do some research and you will see what i mean. this must be stopped now!!!!
many people have been sexually abused and it hurts them to hear those words. it is insensitive to many innocent people.
i heard john ziegler on the radio yesterday and was shocked to hear what he said. i cannot wait for the movie they make on how the media got this wrong. he is an amazing guy.
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i heard john ziegler on the radio yesterday and was shocked to hear what he said. i cannot wait for the movie they make on how the media got this wrong. he is an amazing guy.
Man you are in denial. I hope Penn ST. digs outta this but you sir are ridiculous. They got exactly what they deserved punishment wise. And to have that many victims doesnt even matter. IF YOU RAPE 1 LITTLE BOY YOU SHOULD SPEND LIFE IN JAIL AND ROT IN HELL. Why are you making excuses for him?
i gotta find that tape from john ziegler and u need to listen. u wouldnt think the same way.
go to framingpaterno.com too and see what i heard its amazing.
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Quote Originally Posted by NoWorries21:
Man you are in denial. I hope Penn ST. digs outta this but you sir are ridiculous. They got exactly what they deserved punishment wise. And to have that many victims doesnt even matter. IF YOU RAPE 1 LITTLE BOY YOU SHOULD SPEND LIFE IN JAIL AND ROT IN HELL. Why are you making excuses for him?
i gotta find that tape from john ziegler and u need to listen. u wouldnt think the same way.
go to framingpaterno.com too and see what i heard its amazing.
Man I am sorry but whether it happened on campus or not JoePa knew about it. He was the face of the campus and he covered it up. Maybe not to the degree in which the media presents but his death right after shows that. Most people die if they lose the will to live. Penn St is getting what they deserve but at the same time me being a football fan have to appreciate guys like you standing behind your team and moving on. I HATE that some people can talk shit to people that defend Penn St. Its not like you guys had anything to do with what happened. At you are faithful to them where as you have all these bandwagon pussies out there.
u need to hear that tape and read some stuff its amazing.
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Quote Originally Posted by NoWorries21:
Man I am sorry but whether it happened on campus or not JoePa knew about it. He was the face of the campus and he covered it up. Maybe not to the degree in which the media presents but his death right after shows that. Most people die if they lose the will to live. Penn St is getting what they deserve but at the same time me being a football fan have to appreciate guys like you standing behind your team and moving on. I HATE that some people can talk shit to people that defend Penn St. Its not like you guys had anything to do with what happened. At you are faithful to them where as you have all these bandwagon pussies out there.
u need to hear that tape and read some stuff its amazing.
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