Auburn line is way too low - looking for at least -14. Missouri & Illinois game is played in St. Louis and Missouri will be favored by 4 to 6 points. Looking for TCU to destroy Baylor.
You and I are definitely thinking alike there and I can only hope for a line like -11.5. I'm afraid it will be closer to -15 though . . . . . . .
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Quote Originally Posted by VivaLV:
Auburn line is way too low - looking for at least -14. Missouri & Illinois game is played in St. Louis and Missouri will be favored by 4 to 6 points. Looking for TCU to destroy Baylor.
You and I are definitely thinking alike there and I can only hope for a line like -11.5. I'm afraid it will be closer to -15 though . . . . . . .
nice effort on the early lines bro, UVA will wipe Wyoming, the Cavs aren't a great football program or a great athletic program for that matter, but they are better than Wyoming
I think both teams are going to be fairly even again this season and most of Virginia's success is going to depend on how their key players heal and come back from injuries this Fall. I kind of like Wyoming as a home dog right now, but that could change if everyone is healthy and improving for Virginia through Fall camp . . . . . .
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Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:
nice effort on the early lines bro, UVA will wipe Wyoming, the Cavs aren't a great football program or a great athletic program for that matter, but they are better than Wyoming
I think both teams are going to be fairly even again this season and most of Virginia's success is going to depend on how their key players heal and come back from injuries this Fall. I kind of like Wyoming as a home dog right now, but that could change if everyone is healthy and improving for Virginia through Fall camp . . . . . .
The Scarlet Knights return 7 on offense, including QB Mike Teel and RB Ray Rice, along with two WRs in Britt and Underwood. The D returns 6 starters. Buffalo returns their QB, RB, two WRs, and 3 on the OL. The D returns 10 starters from a unit that was pretty poor last year.
Line: Rutgers -22.5
Washington @ Syracuse
Syracuse appears to be rebuilding, and their offense will have a new QB after losing Patterson. A solid duo of Carter and Brinkley return at RB, and the top two WRs return. The D only returns 5 starters, and lost both CBs from last year. The Huskies will also be getting a new QB, and return Rankin at RB and 3 OL. Their D returns 6 starters, including the entire DL.
Line: Washington -1.5
Eastern Michigan @ Pittsburgh
The Panthers will be searching for a new QB to replace Palko, but return Stephens-Howling at RB and Kinder and Turner at WR. Their D returns 8 starters, but lost two great players in Blades and Revis. Eastern Michigan returns Schmitt, Jones, and Gage at QB, who will all compete for the starting spot; they lost their top two WRs. They return 9 starters on D.
Line: Pittsburgh -24
Western Michigan @ West Virginia
West Virginia returns the core of their offense, with White back at QB, Slaton and Schmitt at RB, and Reynaud at WR. The D returns 8 starters, and badly needs to improve in the secondary. Western Michigan returns 9 starters on offense, including their QB, top two RBs, and top WR. The D, which only allowed 72 rushing YPG last year, returns 8 starters and most of their front line.
Line: West Virginia -25.5
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Big East:
Buffalo @ Rutgers
The Scarlet Knights return 7 on offense, including QB Mike Teel and RB Ray Rice, along with two WRs in Britt and Underwood. The D returns 6 starters. Buffalo returns their QB, RB, two WRs, and 3 on the OL. The D returns 10 starters from a unit that was pretty poor last year.
Line: Rutgers -22.5
Washington @ Syracuse
Syracuse appears to be rebuilding, and their offense will have a new QB after losing Patterson. A solid duo of Carter and Brinkley return at RB, and the top two WRs return. The D only returns 5 starters, and lost both CBs from last year. The Huskies will also be getting a new QB, and return Rankin at RB and 3 OL. Their D returns 6 starters, including the entire DL.
Line: Washington -1.5
Eastern Michigan @ Pittsburgh
The Panthers will be searching for a new QB to replace Palko, but return Stephens-Howling at RB and Kinder and Turner at WR. Their D returns 8 starters, but lost two great players in Blades and Revis. Eastern Michigan returns Schmitt, Jones, and Gage at QB, who will all compete for the starting spot; they lost their top two WRs. They return 9 starters on D.
Line: Pittsburgh -24
Western Michigan @ West Virginia
West Virginia returns the core of their offense, with White back at QB, Slaton and Schmitt at RB, and Reynaud at WR. The D returns 8 starters, and badly needs to improve in the secondary. Western Michigan returns 9 starters on offense, including their QB, top two RBs, and top WR. The D, which only allowed 72 rushing YPG last year, returns 8 starters and most of their front line.
Linde- Hernandez is no longer playing QB for UCONN... they got this guy Lorenzen, (related to Jared?) a juco transfer who is supposed to be legit. Hernandez is now playing WR.
WahooS - didn't uva LOSE to wyoming a year or two ago at home???
GR - "at BC" doesn't mean much, BC has the weakest home field advantages of any top 40 team
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Linde- Hernandez is no longer playing QB for UCONN... they got this guy Lorenzen, (related to Jared?) a juco transfer who is supposed to be legit. Hernandez is now playing WR.
WahooS - didn't uva LOSE to wyoming a year or two ago at home???
GR - "at BC" doesn't mean much, BC has the weakest home field advantages of any top 40 team
GR - "at BC" doesn't mean much, BC has the weakest home field advantages of any top 40 team
But that still doesn't help Wake's chances.
BC always blows games (and covers) on the road, but at home they tend to hold up pretty well, especially against a team they should beat on paper. Just my hunch that Matt Ryan comes out with something to prove, and the rest of the team should be looking to make a statement under a new regime.
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Quote Originally Posted by California_Kid:
GR - "at BC" doesn't mean much, BC has the weakest home field advantages of any top 40 team
But that still doesn't help Wake's chances.
BC always blows games (and covers) on the road, but at home they tend to hold up pretty well, especially against a team they should beat on paper. Just my hunch that Matt Ryan comes out with something to prove, and the rest of the team should be looking to make a statement under a new regime.
I would be careful betting against wake... With all the time in the world to prepare, BC might do well but mid and late season when teams only get a week to get ready for them it's tricky. They've got so many quick guys running reverses and counters and QB counter-powers and options and decent passing, you make one mistake and they're gone.
I really, really liked what I saw last year... can't wait to see if it was a one shot wonder or if they are for real!
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I would be careful betting against wake... With all the time in the world to prepare, BC might do well but mid and late season when teams only get a week to get ready for them it's tricky. They've got so many quick guys running reverses and counters and QB counter-powers and options and decent passing, you make one mistake and they're gone.
I really, really liked what I saw last year... can't wait to see if it was a one shot wonder or if they are for real!
I liked what I saw last year too. As a fan, I love Boise St, Wake, Rutgers type stories. . . makes college football the best. I'm rooting for them to not be a one shot wonder, and I would think they will not be in the future, as long as the coach stays put, and they can take last year and really capitolize on it through recruiting. I just don't see them stringing it together two years in a row, it will be more of a build for the future type thing. They will not be underestimated to the extent they were before, they lost key members in the secondary, and living up to last years expectations and the pressure that comes with that are things that are definitely going against them.
Just looking on paper (I know it's June) it just seems like BC will be able to exploit Wake's weaknesses on defense and not allow Wake to move the ball well. This is all assuming the spread is lower than 6 too (I'd imagine it to be 2.5 to 4.5 range) and nothing changes much from right now. But if they were playing the game tomorrow, I'd probably lay a touchdown without putting much thought into it, I see a 27-17 type game.
Not to harp too much on BC or anything because I'm not touting them (I actually don't like watching the ACC at all if I can help it), but taking a look at their schedule, it's not impossible to think they can string together a 10-2 or 9-3 type year next year either.
Wake
NCST
@ GT
Army
UMass
Bowling Green
@ ND
@ VT
FSU
@ Maryland
@ Clemson
Miami
They could be 6-0 before Notre Dame (though GT is not to be underestimated) - and we all know how that history goes. It ends pretty brutal, but I think their losses are VT for sure, and Clemson, FSU, ND, GT, and/or Miami as possibilities. . . If the ball bounces right a couple times, it's 10-2. . . But if they are sitting 6-0 at ND, or 7-0 @ VT, we could get some GOOD lines, especially if ND or VT drops one before then.
Damn, is it August yet??????
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I liked what I saw last year too. As a fan, I love Boise St, Wake, Rutgers type stories. . . makes college football the best. I'm rooting for them to not be a one shot wonder, and I would think they will not be in the future, as long as the coach stays put, and they can take last year and really capitolize on it through recruiting. I just don't see them stringing it together two years in a row, it will be more of a build for the future type thing. They will not be underestimated to the extent they were before, they lost key members in the secondary, and living up to last years expectations and the pressure that comes with that are things that are definitely going against them.
Just looking on paper (I know it's June) it just seems like BC will be able to exploit Wake's weaknesses on defense and not allow Wake to move the ball well. This is all assuming the spread is lower than 6 too (I'd imagine it to be 2.5 to 4.5 range) and nothing changes much from right now. But if they were playing the game tomorrow, I'd probably lay a touchdown without putting much thought into it, I see a 27-17 type game.
Not to harp too much on BC or anything because I'm not touting them (I actually don't like watching the ACC at all if I can help it), but taking a look at their schedule, it's not impossible to think they can string together a 10-2 or 9-3 type year next year either.
Wake
NCST
@ GT
Army
UMass
Bowling Green
@ ND
@ VT
FSU
@ Maryland
@ Clemson
Miami
They could be 6-0 before Notre Dame (though GT is not to be underestimated) - and we all know how that history goes. It ends pretty brutal, but I think their losses are VT for sure, and Clemson, FSU, ND, GT, and/or Miami as possibilities. . . If the ball bounces right a couple times, it's 10-2. . . But if they are sitting 6-0 at ND, or 7-0 @ VT, we could get some GOOD lines, especially if ND or VT drops one before then.
Also as bas as Florida St. was last year, I really can't see them being favored on the road at Clemson. Clemson is a better team and had some quality wins last year, ie VT, I think it's Clemson by slightly less than a TD
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Also as bas as Florida St. was last year, I really can't see them being favored on the road at Clemson. Clemson is a better team and had some quality wins last year, ie VT, I think it's Clemson by slightly less than a TD
Also as bas as Florida St. was last year, I really can't see them being favored on the road at Clemson. Clemson is a better team and had some quality wins last year, ie VT, I think it's Clemson by slightly less than a TD
Clemson got smashed by VT last year. . .
Clemson has a brand new QB, and a history of not living up to expectations. FSU is breaking in a new OC, and will be testing out a few new starters on both sides of the ball as well. Going to be an UGLY game, but I'd give FSU the nod here, though I think it might be a pk'em line.
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Quote Originally Posted by falcons1212:
Also as bas as Florida St. was last year, I really can't see them being favored on the road at Clemson. Clemson is a better team and had some quality wins last year, ie VT, I think it's Clemson by slightly less than a TD
Clemson got smashed by VT last year. . .
Clemson has a brand new QB, and a history of not living up to expectations. FSU is breaking in a new OC, and will be testing out a few new starters on both sides of the ball as well. Going to be an UGLY game, but I'd give FSU the nod here, though I think it might be a pk'em line.
I haven't looked at the game yet, but I don't see any way Mississippi State gets more than 15 or 16 in this one. I know they suck and I know LSU usually dominates them, but those games are also well into the season when both teams have already begun to show their true colors. The Bulldogs hung tough with South Carolina last year and I was very impressed with their performance, considering Henig got hurt early on. I see no way a team just lays down in their season opener against a division rival. You also have to remember that LSU has VT on deck, so they won't put a ton of effort into that game.
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I haven't looked at the game yet, but I don't see any way Mississippi State gets more than 15 or 16 in this one. I know they suck and I know LSU usually dominates them, but those games are also well into the season when both teams have already begun to show their true colors. The Bulldogs hung tough with South Carolina last year and I was very impressed with their performance, considering Henig got hurt early on. I see no way a team just lays down in their season opener against a division rival. You also have to remember that LSU has VT on deck, so they won't put a ton of effort into that game.
I haven't looked at the game yet, but I don't see any way Mississippi State gets more than 15 or 16 in this one. I know they suck and I know LSU usually dominates them, but those games are also well into the season when both teams have already begun to show their true colors. The Bulldogs hung tough with South Carolina last year and I was very impressed with their performance, considering Henig got hurt early on. I see no way a team just lays down in their season opener against a division rival. You also have to remember that LSU has VT on deck, so they won't put a ton of effort into that game.
I like MSU at anything above 10+ points
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Quote Originally Posted by lindetrain:
I haven't looked at the game yet, but I don't see any way Mississippi State gets more than 15 or 16 in this one. I know they suck and I know LSU usually dominates them, but those games are also well into the season when both teams have already begun to show their true colors. The Bulldogs hung tough with South Carolina last year and I was very impressed with their performance, considering Henig got hurt early on. I see no way a team just lays down in their season opener against a division rival. You also have to remember that LSU has VT on deck, so they won't put a ton of effort into that game.
Every one and their dog can bet the the top10s and the book knows that..secret is finding unknown out of the mainstream...won on TCU S. Fl and N Mex st last year...like all three this yr..Team to keep an eye on after the first few games N Texas,,Southlake Carroll HS coach will take over this year and had the best HS record in the nation...my opinion is a lot of his players will follow him...TCU def should be in top 5 in nation,should be interesting in second game vs Texas,have a chance to beat them like they did OU two years ago.,, coach Patterson turned down a $1 raise to stay in Ft Worth after last season
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Every one and their dog can bet the the top10s and the book knows that..secret is finding unknown out of the mainstream...won on TCU S. Fl and N Mex st last year...like all three this yr..Team to keep an eye on after the first few games N Texas,,Southlake Carroll HS coach will take over this year and had the best HS record in the nation...my opinion is a lot of his players will follow him...TCU def should be in top 5 in nation,should be interesting in second game vs Texas,have a chance to beat them like they did OU two years ago.,, coach Patterson turned down a $1 raise to stay in Ft Worth after last season
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