sharps lose
it is good to be on the side of the sharps at the lines they get, but they dont always win...
Not every game they dont. All "sharps" arent on the same team every game.
"Wise guys" probably do better than the public, but the days of inside info, fixed games (not so much this year) and access to other variables has all but been eliminated with tv and the internet.
Fact. ![]()
Not every game they dont. All "sharps" arent on the same team every game.
"Wise guys" probably do better than the public, but the days of inside info, fixed games (not so much this year) and access to other variables has all but been eliminated with tv and the internet.
Fact. ![]()
Not only will the Deacs' most likely get leading WR Campanaro back but Clemson will be without BOTH of their starting CBs who were lost to injury last week (Darius Robinson- broken ankle/ Bashaud Breeland- abdominal).
Plus Clemson has a ten year history of losing at least one game on the road as a favorite;
2011 - @ N.C. State lost 37-13 as a 7 1/2 point favorite.
2010- @ Boston College lost 16-10 as a 7 point favorite.
2009- @ Maryland lost 24-21 as a 12 1/2 point favorite.
2008- @ Wake Forest lost 12-7 as a 2 point favorite.
2007- @ Georgia Tech lost 13-3 as a 3 point favorite.
2006- @ Va.Tech lost 24-7 as a 4 point favorite.
2005- @ Wake Forest lost 31-27 as a 6 1/2 point favorite.
2004- @ Duke lost 16-13 as a 11 1/2 point favorite.
2004- @ Texas A&M lost 27-6 as a 2 point favorite.
2003- @ Wake Forest lost 45-17 as a 1 point favorite.
2002- @ Virginia lost 22-17 as a 5 1/2 point favorite.
Not only will the Deacs' most likely get leading WR Campanaro back but Clemson will be without BOTH of their starting CBs who were lost to injury last week (Darius Robinson- broken ankle/ Bashaud Breeland- abdominal).
Plus Clemson has a ten year history of losing at least one game on the road as a favorite;
2011 - @ N.C. State lost 37-13 as a 7 1/2 point favorite.
2010- @ Boston College lost 16-10 as a 7 point favorite.
2009- @ Maryland lost 24-21 as a 12 1/2 point favorite.
2008- @ Wake Forest lost 12-7 as a 2 point favorite.
2007- @ Georgia Tech lost 13-3 as a 3 point favorite.
2006- @ Va.Tech lost 24-7 as a 4 point favorite.
2005- @ Wake Forest lost 31-27 as a 6 1/2 point favorite.
2004- @ Duke lost 16-13 as a 11 1/2 point favorite.
2004- @ Texas A&M lost 27-6 as a 2 point favorite.
2003- @ Wake Forest lost 45-17 as a 1 point favorite.
2002- @ Virginia lost 22-17 as a 5 1/2 point favorite.
I tend to agree that a late large line move (i.e. just before kick-off) seems to always win...high percentage anyway...easier to follow than opening lines which mostly seem to always move toward the dog, with less discernable positive results..
I tend to agree that a late large line move (i.e. just before kick-off) seems to always win...high percentage anyway...easier to follow than opening lines which mostly seem to always move toward the dog, with less discernable positive results..
Not only will the Deacs' most likely get leading WR Campanaro back but Clemson will be without BOTH of their starting CBs who were lost to injury last week (Darius Robinson- broken ankle/ Bashaud Breeland- abdominal).
Plus Clemson has a ten year history of losing at least one game on the road as a favorite;
2011 - @ N.C. State lost 37-13 as a 7 1/2 point favorite.
Key injuries and team unmotivated after clinching division. South carolina on deck.
2010- @ Boston College lost 16-10 as a 7 point favorite.
Week after big revenger vs. GT team that had beaten Clemson twice the year before.
2009- @ Maryland lost 24-21 as a 12 1/2 point favorite.
Loss was due to faailure to take Maryland seriously as a result of disparate results vs. common opponent.
2008- @ Wake Forest lost 12-7 as a 2 point favorite.
Wake won 8 games that year. Clemson won 7 and did not deserve to be favored at Wake.
2007- @ Georgia Tech lost 13-3 as a 3 point favorite.
Big revenge game for Tech, and lookahead for Clemson with big revenger vs. Virginia Tech on deck.
2006- @ Va.Tech lost 24-7 as a 4 point favorite.
Letdown after win after College Game Day was in town the previous week for blowout win over GT.
2005- @ Wake Forest lost 31-27 as a 6 1/2 point favorite.
No good explanation for this loss.
2004- @ Duke lost 16-13 as a 11 1/2 point favorite.
Week after upset win over Miami as +16.5, and South Carolina on deck.
2004- @ Texas A&M lost 27-6 as a 2 point favorite.
Temp was 106 degrees, and A/C broke on team bus carrying the defense on two-hour trip from hotel to College Station.
2003- @ Wake Forest lost 45-17 as a 1 point favorite.
Lookahead to FSU
2002- @ Virginia lost 22-17 as a 5 1/2 point favorite.
Week after FSU.
Nine of those 10 losses were due to situational factors that do not apply to this game.
Not only will the Deacs' most likely get leading WR Campanaro back but Clemson will be without BOTH of their starting CBs who were lost to injury last week (Darius Robinson- broken ankle/ Bashaud Breeland- abdominal).
Plus Clemson has a ten year history of losing at least one game on the road as a favorite;
2011 - @ N.C. State lost 37-13 as a 7 1/2 point favorite.
Key injuries and team unmotivated after clinching division. South carolina on deck.
2010- @ Boston College lost 16-10 as a 7 point favorite.
Week after big revenger vs. GT team that had beaten Clemson twice the year before.
2009- @ Maryland lost 24-21 as a 12 1/2 point favorite.
Loss was due to faailure to take Maryland seriously as a result of disparate results vs. common opponent.
2008- @ Wake Forest lost 12-7 as a 2 point favorite.
Wake won 8 games that year. Clemson won 7 and did not deserve to be favored at Wake.
2007- @ Georgia Tech lost 13-3 as a 3 point favorite.
Big revenge game for Tech, and lookahead for Clemson with big revenger vs. Virginia Tech on deck.
2006- @ Va.Tech lost 24-7 as a 4 point favorite.
Letdown after win after College Game Day was in town the previous week for blowout win over GT.
2005- @ Wake Forest lost 31-27 as a 6 1/2 point favorite.
No good explanation for this loss.
2004- @ Duke lost 16-13 as a 11 1/2 point favorite.
Week after upset win over Miami as +16.5, and South Carolina on deck.
2004- @ Texas A&M lost 27-6 as a 2 point favorite.
Temp was 106 degrees, and A/C broke on team bus carrying the defense on two-hour trip from hotel to College Station.
2003- @ Wake Forest lost 45-17 as a 1 point favorite.
Lookahead to FSU
2002- @ Virginia lost 22-17 as a 5 1/2 point favorite.
Week after FSU.
Nine of those 10 losses were due to situational factors that do not apply to this game.
Not every game they dont. All "sharps" arent on the same team every game.
"Wise guys" probably do better than the public, but the days of inside info, fixed games (not so much this year) and access to other variables has all but been eliminated with tv and the internet.
Fact. ![]()
Not every game they dont. All "sharps" arent on the same team every game.
"Wise guys" probably do better than the public, but the days of inside info, fixed games (not so much this year) and access to other variables has all but been eliminated with tv and the internet.
Fact. ![]()
Nine of those 10 losses were due to situational factors that do not apply to this game.
a) - Wow,I am impressed but really not surprised at your ability to recall details to such an extent.
b) - I tend to get carried away with researching stats and I'm not quite sure how much stats before 2008 even apply in this situation.
c) - I'm not putting any of my funds on Wake or Clemson this saturday but put that stuff out there for those that might be considerig doing so.
d) - I always pay attention to your posts as you seem to reserve them for useful information. Thanks for the commentary and good luck this weekend. ![]()
Nine of those 10 losses were due to situational factors that do not apply to this game.
a) - Wow,I am impressed but really not surprised at your ability to recall details to such an extent.
b) - I tend to get carried away with researching stats and I'm not quite sure how much stats before 2008 even apply in this situation.
c) - I'm not putting any of my funds on Wake or Clemson this saturday but put that stuff out there for those that might be considerig doing so.
d) - I always pay attention to your posts as you seem to reserve them for useful information. Thanks for the commentary and good luck this weekend. ![]()
Nine of those 10 losses were due to situational factors that do not apply to this game.
Nine of those 10 losses were due to situational factors that do not apply to this game.
The dog at my homework, I over slept, the devil made me do it… Bottom-line they laid an egg correct? Please advise… ![]()
No, that's not the bottom line. The bottom line is they laid an egg for reasons that could be identified before the game started. This time there's no letdown or lookahead, and neither Clemson nor its opponent is really being hyped at this point. So it doesn't really look like one of those games.
On the other hand, when Wake has NFL talent, it's usually on the defensive side of the ball, and the offense's success depends on scheme. Grobe changed the offense when he had Skinner at QB, but I think we're back to the same misdirection and cut-blocking that used to give Clemson and other ACC teams trouble. The short week is definitely an advantage for Wake Forest. One advantage for Clemson is that they dealt with GT's cut blocking three weeks ago, both in the game and in practice where they took the unusual step of practicing live cut blocking. However, the unjuries to Clemson's corners, the returnof Campanaro, and the short week mean that Wake might have a surprising amount of success on offense.
The dog at my homework, I over slept, the devil made me do it… Bottom-line they laid an egg correct? Please advise… ![]()
No, that's not the bottom line. The bottom line is they laid an egg for reasons that could be identified before the game started. This time there's no letdown or lookahead, and neither Clemson nor its opponent is really being hyped at this point. So it doesn't really look like one of those games.
On the other hand, when Wake has NFL talent, it's usually on the defensive side of the ball, and the offense's success depends on scheme. Grobe changed the offense when he had Skinner at QB, but I think we're back to the same misdirection and cut-blocking that used to give Clemson and other ACC teams trouble. The short week is definitely an advantage for Wake Forest. One advantage for Clemson is that they dealt with GT's cut blocking three weeks ago, both in the game and in practice where they took the unusual step of practicing live cut blocking. However, the unjuries to Clemson's corners, the returnof Campanaro, and the short week mean that Wake might have a surprising amount of success on offense.

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