All the value is with the under and that's what I'll be on, besides your cold as ice.
If you're bitching on the third day of the season, perhaps it will be better to tail someone else. Better yet, cap your own games. And yes, current "value" is with the under at 147. But that is not where I played it, correct?
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Quote Originally Posted by hawk007:
All the value is with the under and that's what I'll be on, besides your cold as ice.
If you're bitching on the third day of the season, perhaps it will be better to tail someone else. Better yet, cap your own games. And yes, current "value" is with the under at 147. But that is not where I played it, correct?
Interested to hear your thoughts on Temple Kent St. You think Holt and Evans are enough offense for Kent St to beat Temple? Hard to imagine them beating another good team back to back.
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Interested to hear your thoughts on Temple Kent St. You think Holt and Evans are enough offense for Kent St to beat Temple? Hard to imagine them beating another good team back to back.
Interested to hear your thoughts on Temple Kent St. You think Holt and Evans are enough offense for Kent St to beat Temple? Hard to imagine them beating another good team back to back.
Yeah I'm not sure this is the best spot for Kent State playing another tough, gritty Philly team a few days after springing the upset over Drexel. Still, though, I'm really unsure on how this Temple team will gel. They're assimilating a bunch of new parts with transfers ( Pepper, O'Brien), a few freshmen, a veteran returning from injury (Randall), and a brand-new point guard (Cummings). Way too many unknowns for me to get involved but it will be an interesting game to watch.
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Quote Originally Posted by bogey533:
Interested to hear your thoughts on Temple Kent St. You think Holt and Evans are enough offense for Kent St to beat Temple? Hard to imagine them beating another good team back to back.
Yeah I'm not sure this is the best spot for Kent State playing another tough, gritty Philly team a few days after springing the upset over Drexel. Still, though, I'm really unsure on how this Temple team will gel. They're assimilating a bunch of new parts with transfers ( Pepper, O'Brien), a few freshmen, a veteran returning from injury (Randall), and a brand-new point guard (Cummings). Way too many unknowns for me to get involved but it will be an interesting game to watch.
Harvard @ UMASS Under 138 (1 unit) Scary to back a Minutemen under but this is more about Harvard. I'll concede up-front that if UMASS jumps out to a big early lead, this probably goes over. But really, this number does not reflect the personnel losses suffered by Harvard, which is without 3 of last year's 4 most significant offensive players. Wright graduated and Casey/Curry were suspended for the season. Casey is a versatile scorer from both the perimeter and block, while Curry ranked in the top 40 nationally in assist rate. In their absence, much of the scoring load will fall on Laurent Rivard, who is really more of a shooter than a pure scorer. Contrary to popular belief, the UMASS defense is actually very good (#63 efficiency), especially considering the frantic pace of play. Amaker is one of the brightest minds in the game and will do everything in his power to keep this game at a crawl. Even then, though, Harvard will be hard-pressed to generate much offense.
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Harvard @ UMASS Under 138 (1 unit) Scary to back a Minutemen under but this is more about Harvard. I'll concede up-front that if UMASS jumps out to a big early lead, this probably goes over. But really, this number does not reflect the personnel losses suffered by Harvard, which is without 3 of last year's 4 most significant offensive players. Wright graduated and Casey/Curry were suspended for the season. Casey is a versatile scorer from both the perimeter and block, while Curry ranked in the top 40 nationally in assist rate. In their absence, much of the scoring load will fall on Laurent Rivard, who is really more of a shooter than a pure scorer. Contrary to popular belief, the UMASS defense is actually very good (#63 efficiency), especially considering the frantic pace of play. Amaker is one of the brightest minds in the game and will do everything in his power to keep this game at a crawl. Even then, though, Harvard will be hard-pressed to generate much offense.
Harvard @ UMASS Under 138 (1 unit) Scary to back a Minutemen under but this is more about Harvard. I'll concede up-front that if UMASS jumps out to a big early lead, this probably goes over. But really, this number does not reflect the personnel losses suffered by Harvard, which is without 3 of last year's 4 most significant offensive players. Wright graduated and Casey/Curry were suspended for the season. Casey is a versatile scorer from both the perimeter and block, while Curry ranked in the top 40 nationally in assist rate. In their absence, much of the scoring load will fall on Laurent Rivard, who is really more of a shooter than a pure scorer. Contrary to popular belief, the UMASS defense is actually very good (#63 efficiency), especially considering the frantic pace of play. Amaker is one of the brightest minds in the game and will do everything in his power to keep this game at a crawl. Even then, though, Harvard will be hard-pressed to generate much offense.
Thx man...Great pick
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Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:
Harvard @ UMASS Under 138 (1 unit) Scary to back a Minutemen under but this is more about Harvard. I'll concede up-front that if UMASS jumps out to a big early lead, this probably goes over. But really, this number does not reflect the personnel losses suffered by Harvard, which is without 3 of last year's 4 most significant offensive players. Wright graduated and Casey/Curry were suspended for the season. Casey is a versatile scorer from both the perimeter and block, while Curry ranked in the top 40 nationally in assist rate. In their absence, much of the scoring load will fall on Laurent Rivard, who is really more of a shooter than a pure scorer. Contrary to popular belief, the UMASS defense is actually very good (#63 efficiency), especially considering the frantic pace of play. Amaker is one of the brightest minds in the game and will do everything in his power to keep this game at a crawl. Even then, though, Harvard will be hard-pressed to generate much offense.
Harvard @ UMASS Under 138 (1 unit) Scary to back a Minutemen under but this is more about Harvard. I'll concede up-front that if UMASS jumps out to a big early lead, this probably goes over. But really, this number does not reflect the personnel losses suffered by Harvard, which is without 3 of last year's 4 most significant offensive players. Wright graduated and Casey/Curry were suspended for the season. Casey is a versatile scorer from both the perimeter and block, while Curry ranked in the top 40 nationally in assist rate. In their absence, much of the scoring load will fall on Laurent Rivard, who is really more of a shooter than a pure scorer. Contrary to popular belief, the UMASS defense is actually very good (#63 efficiency), especially considering the frantic pace of play. Amaker is one of the brightest minds in the game and will do everything in his power to keep this game at a crawl. Even then, though, Harvard will be hard-pressed to generate much offense.
nice one, thanks
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Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:
Harvard @ UMASS Under 138 (1 unit) Scary to back a Minutemen under but this is more about Harvard. I'll concede up-front that if UMASS jumps out to a big early lead, this probably goes over. But really, this number does not reflect the personnel losses suffered by Harvard, which is without 3 of last year's 4 most significant offensive players. Wright graduated and Casey/Curry were suspended for the season. Casey is a versatile scorer from both the perimeter and block, while Curry ranked in the top 40 nationally in assist rate. In their absence, much of the scoring load will fall on Laurent Rivard, who is really more of a shooter than a pure scorer. Contrary to popular belief, the UMASS defense is actually very good (#63 efficiency), especially considering the frantic pace of play. Amaker is one of the brightest minds in the game and will do everything in his power to keep this game at a crawl. Even then, though, Harvard will be hard-pressed to generate much offense.
Butler @ Xavier Over 133.5 (1 unit) I will be on a lot of overs this year involving both teams. This year's Butler iteration looks very different than the 2011-2012 version. Gone is Ronald Nored, one of the best on-ball defenders in the country over the last three seasons. Few players could disrupt an offense like Nored, whose defensive prowess overshadowed his uninspiring outside shooting ability. The replacement at point guard is truly Nored's polar opposite. Clarke is probably the most feared outside shooter in the country and at his best in transition. He instantly moves Butler from a deplorable three-point shooting team to a respectable one. Freshman Kellen Dunham is also an elite shooter and will see a ton of playing time right from the get-go. Stevens has no choice but to pick up the pace of the offense with Clarke at the controls.
For Xavier...yikes. Talk about a bad offseason. Multiple highly-touted recruits failed to quality, Dez Wells was dismissed, and Mark Lyons bolted for Arizona. The result is a team loaded with pure talent but devoid of experience. The biggest problem for freshmen is defense, especially without a shotblocking presence on the floor. Frease and Walker were the only two guys capable of altering shots and both were lost to graduation. Speaking of Frease, the Muskies will be able to play at a much faster tempo with his lumbering body out of the fold. Losing Holloway and Lyons, both of whom were too ball-dominant at times, may end up being a net-positive on the offensive end. The insertion of Brad Redford - a shooter and absolutely nothing else - is a boon to the offense but badly hurts the defense.
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Butler @ Xavier Over 133.5 (1 unit) I will be on a lot of overs this year involving both teams. This year's Butler iteration looks very different than the 2011-2012 version. Gone is Ronald Nored, one of the best on-ball defenders in the country over the last three seasons. Few players could disrupt an offense like Nored, whose defensive prowess overshadowed his uninspiring outside shooting ability. The replacement at point guard is truly Nored's polar opposite. Clarke is probably the most feared outside shooter in the country and at his best in transition. He instantly moves Butler from a deplorable three-point shooting team to a respectable one. Freshman Kellen Dunham is also an elite shooter and will see a ton of playing time right from the get-go. Stevens has no choice but to pick up the pace of the offense with Clarke at the controls.
For Xavier...yikes. Talk about a bad offseason. Multiple highly-touted recruits failed to quality, Dez Wells was dismissed, and Mark Lyons bolted for Arizona. The result is a team loaded with pure talent but devoid of experience. The biggest problem for freshmen is defense, especially without a shotblocking presence on the floor. Frease and Walker were the only two guys capable of altering shots and both were lost to graduation. Speaking of Frease, the Muskies will be able to play at a much faster tempo with his lumbering body out of the fold. Losing Holloway and Lyons, both of whom were too ball-dominant at times, may end up being a net-positive on the offensive end. The insertion of Brad Redford - a shooter and absolutely nothing else - is a boon to the offense but badly hurts the defense.
Butler @ Xavier Over 133.5 (1 unit) I will be on a lot of overs this year involving both teams. This year's Butler iteration looks very different than the 2011-2012 version. Gone is Ronald Nored, one of the best on-ball defenders in the country over the last three seasons. Few players could disrupt an offense like Nored, whose defensive prowess overshadowed his uninspiring outside shooting ability. The replacement at point guard is truly Nored's polar opposite. Clarke is probably the most feared outside shooter in the country and at his best in transition. He instantly moves Butler from a deplorable three-point shooting team to a respectable one. Freshman Kellen Dunham is also an elite shooter and will see a ton of playing time right from the get-go. Stevens has no choice but to pick up the pace of the offense with Clarke at the controls.
For Xavier...yikes. Talk about a bad offseason. Multiple highly-touted recruits failed to quality, Dez Wells was dismissed, and Mark Lyons bolted for Arizona. The result is a team loaded with pure talent but devoid of experience. The biggest problem for freshmen is defense, especially without a shotblocking presence on the floor. Frease and Walker were the only two guys capable of altering shots and both were lost to graduation. Speaking of Frease, the Muskies will be able to play at a much faster tempo with his lumbering body out of the fold. Losing Holloway and Lyons, both of whom were too ball-dominant at times, may end up being a net-positive on the offensive end. The insertion of Brad Redford - a shooter and absolutely nothing else - is a boon to the offense but badly hurts the defense.
I like Butler better than the total.
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Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:
Butler @ Xavier Over 133.5 (1 unit) I will be on a lot of overs this year involving both teams. This year's Butler iteration looks very different than the 2011-2012 version. Gone is Ronald Nored, one of the best on-ball defenders in the country over the last three seasons. Few players could disrupt an offense like Nored, whose defensive prowess overshadowed his uninspiring outside shooting ability. The replacement at point guard is truly Nored's polar opposite. Clarke is probably the most feared outside shooter in the country and at his best in transition. He instantly moves Butler from a deplorable three-point shooting team to a respectable one. Freshman Kellen Dunham is also an elite shooter and will see a ton of playing time right from the get-go. Stevens has no choice but to pick up the pace of the offense with Clarke at the controls.
For Xavier...yikes. Talk about a bad offseason. Multiple highly-touted recruits failed to quality, Dez Wells was dismissed, and Mark Lyons bolted for Arizona. The result is a team loaded with pure talent but devoid of experience. The biggest problem for freshmen is defense, especially without a shotblocking presence on the floor. Frease and Walker were the only two guys capable of altering shots and both were lost to graduation. Speaking of Frease, the Muskies will be able to play at a much faster tempo with his lumbering body out of the fold. Losing Holloway and Lyons, both of whom were too ball-dominant at times, may end up being a net-positive on the offensive end. The insertion of Brad Redford - a shooter and absolutely nothing else - is a boon to the offense but badly hurts the defense.
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