If you want to look at pools...I have 65 people in mine and 4 have ku...Does that even us out or do you have a bigger pool with a higher percentage on Ku?
I just posted my thoughts in another thread. In a nutshell, I lean KU, but only because I can't figure the line out. Makes no sense.
Tbum
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If you want to look at pools...I have 65 people in mine and 4 have ku...Does that even us out or do you have a bigger pool with a higher percentage on Ku?
I just posted my thoughts in another thread. In a nutshell, I lean KU, but only because I can't figure the line out. Makes no sense.
Minnesota, Ohio State and Illinois lose in first round to Texas, Siena and Western Freakin' Kentucky (all of whom lost in round two)
Michigan and Wisconsin got by Clemson and Florida State respectively, (but when was the last time Clemson won a meaningful game?) only to get beaten by double digits in rd two.
Purdue beats Northern Iowa in round one (by only five) and then gets the Big 10's only impressive win in the tourney over Washington in round two. (Yet, how many Pac 10 teams are left? One. And Arizona got to play Cleveland State in round two to get to sweet 16)
Michigan State beat Robert Morris and then could have easily lost to USC in round two.
Bottom line for me?
Big 10 teams can't score. Unless Kansas is ice cold from the field, I think Kansas wins relatively easily. I am predicting Kansas by 8.
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How's the Big 10 doing in the tourney?
Minnesota, Ohio State and Illinois lose in first round to Texas, Siena and Western Freakin' Kentucky (all of whom lost in round two)
Michigan and Wisconsin got by Clemson and Florida State respectively, (but when was the last time Clemson won a meaningful game?) only to get beaten by double digits in rd two.
Purdue beats Northern Iowa in round one (by only five) and then gets the Big 10's only impressive win in the tourney over Washington in round two. (Yet, how many Pac 10 teams are left? One. And Arizona got to play Cleveland State in round two to get to sweet 16)
Michigan State beat Robert Morris and then could have easily lost to USC in round two.
Bottom line for me?
Big 10 teams can't score. Unless Kansas is ice cold from the field, I think Kansas wins relatively easily. I am predicting Kansas by 8.
i like kansas as well tbum- i don't know why you can't figure out the line if Kansas was +4 everyone and their mothers would be on ku. vegas didn't make this the line because they know ku will win. this line speaks for both, as believers in both team think they can win SU so the small line gives Vegas an advantage. Both revenge and offensive efficency, I like KU 69-63
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i like kansas as well tbum- i don't know why you can't figure out the line if Kansas was +4 everyone and their mothers would be on ku. vegas didn't make this the line because they know ku will win. this line speaks for both, as believers in both team think they can win SU so the small line gives Vegas an advantage. Both revenge and offensive efficency, I like KU 69-63
Michigan State is a deeper team than Kansas. MSU plays 10-11 guys, pushes the ball the entire game, makes sure to get back and play hard defense. They dominate the boards, wear you out with their depth and very tough to perpare for. Kansas on the other hand, has been playing very well as of late. Since the two teams squared off in East Lansing, in January, Kansas won 13 of 14 games then won the big 12 title. Then played two good games in the tournament which they should of won. Kansas' success has been due too relying on Sherron Collins and Cole Aldridge, two great players. This game is gonna come down to Sherron Collins having to play, Mario Chalmers like if they have a chance to win. He will have a hard time doing so cause Izzo is gonna have the big Ten Defensive player of the year in Travis Walton following his every move. With the career high 18 points against USC on his back, you know his confidence is there, and he doesn't want this to be his last game. Cole Aldridge will get his, however, there will be many big bodies thrown at him all night long. I'm interested in what kind of strategy Bill Self is gonna employ. Whatever strategy it might be, its not gonna be the right one, and when its all said and done, Kansas is gonna be a worned down team going home. Anyone one of States top 8 players could break out for a big game!!!! MSU -2 big play for me
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Michigan State is a deeper team than Kansas. MSU plays 10-11 guys, pushes the ball the entire game, makes sure to get back and play hard defense. They dominate the boards, wear you out with their depth and very tough to perpare for. Kansas on the other hand, has been playing very well as of late. Since the two teams squared off in East Lansing, in January, Kansas won 13 of 14 games then won the big 12 title. Then played two good games in the tournament which they should of won. Kansas' success has been due too relying on Sherron Collins and Cole Aldridge, two great players. This game is gonna come down to Sherron Collins having to play, Mario Chalmers like if they have a chance to win. He will have a hard time doing so cause Izzo is gonna have the big Ten Defensive player of the year in Travis Walton following his every move. With the career high 18 points against USC on his back, you know his confidence is there, and he doesn't want this to be his last game. Cole Aldridge will get his, however, there will be many big bodies thrown at him all night long. I'm interested in what kind of strategy Bill Self is gonna employ. Whatever strategy it might be, its not gonna be the right one, and when its all said and done, Kansas is gonna be a worned down team going home. Anyone one of States top 8 players could break out for a big game!!!! MSU -2 big play for me
Michigan State is a deeper team than Kansas. MSU plays 10-11 guys, pushes the ball the entire game, makes sure to get back and play hard defense. They dominate the boards, wear you out with their depth and very tough to perpare for. Kansas on the other hand, has been playing very well as of late. Since the two teams squared off in East Lansing, in January, Kansas won 13 of 14 games then won the big 12 title. Then played two good games in the tournament which they should of won. Kansas' success has been due too relying on Sherron Collins and Cole Aldridge, two great players. This game is gonna come down to Sherron Collins having to play, Mario Chalmers like if they have a chance to win. He will have a hard time doing so cause Izzo is gonna have the big Ten Defensive player of the year in Travis Walton following his every move. With the career high 18 points against USC on his back, you know his confidence is there, and he doesn't want this to be his last game. Cole Aldridge will get his, however, there will be many big bodies thrown at him all night long. I'm interested in what kind of strategy Bill Self is gonna employ. Whatever strategy it might be, its not gonna be the right one, and when its all said and done, Kansas is gonna be a worned down team going home. Anyone one of States top 8 players could break out for a big game!!!! MSU -2 big play for me
What a great right up!!!!......I agree 100%......MSU with the better def, rebounding, and they will put walton on collins.....I'am down pretty good and I will be pounding MSU for a nickle tommorrow nite and I'll be drinking like a sailor watching the spartans take care of KU tommorrow nite.......
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Quote Originally Posted by FreezyF:
Michigan State is a deeper team than Kansas. MSU plays 10-11 guys, pushes the ball the entire game, makes sure to get back and play hard defense. They dominate the boards, wear you out with their depth and very tough to perpare for. Kansas on the other hand, has been playing very well as of late. Since the two teams squared off in East Lansing, in January, Kansas won 13 of 14 games then won the big 12 title. Then played two good games in the tournament which they should of won. Kansas' success has been due too relying on Sherron Collins and Cole Aldridge, two great players. This game is gonna come down to Sherron Collins having to play, Mario Chalmers like if they have a chance to win. He will have a hard time doing so cause Izzo is gonna have the big Ten Defensive player of the year in Travis Walton following his every move. With the career high 18 points against USC on his back, you know his confidence is there, and he doesn't want this to be his last game. Cole Aldridge will get his, however, there will be many big bodies thrown at him all night long. I'm interested in what kind of strategy Bill Self is gonna employ. Whatever strategy it might be, its not gonna be the right one, and when its all said and done, Kansas is gonna be a worned down team going home. Anyone one of States top 8 players could break out for a big game!!!! MSU -2 big play for me
What a great right up!!!!......I agree 100%......MSU with the better def, rebounding, and they will put walton on collins.....I'am down pretty good and I will be pounding MSU for a nickle tommorrow nite and I'll be drinking like a sailor watching the spartans take care of KU tommorrow nite.......
SO YOU SAY IT IS A REVENGE GAME YET THE LINE IS -2 MICHIGAN STATE....???IF THE ODDSMAKERS WOULD PUT THAT INTO EFFECT IT WOULD BE KANSAS -2 NOT MICHIGAN STATE...
I THINK MICHIGAN STATE ROLLS...KANSAS IS OVERRATED..MICHIGAN STATE HAS OODLES OF TALENT...
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SO YOU SAY IT IS A REVENGE GAME YET THE LINE IS -2 MICHIGAN STATE....???IF THE ODDSMAKERS WOULD PUT THAT INTO EFFECT IT WOULD BE KANSAS -2 NOT MICHIGAN STATE...
I THINK MICHIGAN STATE ROLLS...KANSAS IS OVERRATED..MICHIGAN STATE HAS OODLES OF TALENT...
IMO one of the biggest factors to consider is MATCHUPS! MSU will be putting the Big Ten Defensive Player of the year on Collins and they will have Suton, Roe and Grey teaming up on Aldrich. MSU will force the Brady Morningstar's of the world to make plays, which favors MSU. Another thing MSU will do is...run, run, run! They have depth and can afford to do so. Please don't overlook the big ten player of the year, Kalin Lucas. He gets to the hole with the best of them and wears down defenses. If MSU loses it will be because of Turnovers. If they hang onto the ball, they run away with this one... GL ALL
MSU -1....5 LARGE
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IMO one of the biggest factors to consider is MATCHUPS! MSU will be putting the Big Ten Defensive Player of the year on Collins and they will have Suton, Roe and Grey teaming up on Aldrich. MSU will force the Brady Morningstar's of the world to make plays, which favors MSU. Another thing MSU will do is...run, run, run! They have depth and can afford to do so. Please don't overlook the big ten player of the year, Kalin Lucas. He gets to the hole with the best of them and wears down defenses. If MSU loses it will be because of Turnovers. If they hang onto the ball, they run away with this one... GL ALL
MSU was 9-1 on the road this year, they are comfortable playing away from their building. They have alot more depth than KU does and they have better coaching. Don't underestimate that win over USC in the last round, they would have played any team that well regardless of who it was. MSU -1
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MSU was 9-1 on the road this year, they are comfortable playing away from their building. They have alot more depth than KU does and they have better coaching. Don't underestimate that win over USC in the last round, they would have played any team that well regardless of who it was. MSU -1
Very tough game but I went with Michigan State. We all know Michigan State won head to head earlier but that was a home game for them so I take it lightly. I also see Michigan State beat Oklahoma State on a neutral court and Texas on the road so they've had success with the Big 12. The game being played in Indianapolis will probably help as well as that is Big 10 country. This is no doubt the toughest game tonight IMO but I went with Michigan State.
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Very tough game but I went with Michigan State. We all know Michigan State won head to head earlier but that was a home game for them so I take it lightly. I also see Michigan State beat Oklahoma State on a neutral court and Texas on the road so they've had success with the Big 12. The game being played in Indianapolis will probably help as well as that is Big 10 country. This is no doubt the toughest game tonight IMO but I went with Michigan State.
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