I would be lying to you if i didnt say i was feeling a little more nervous about this game than i was last week or even last year around this time and its not mainly because of what happened last season in week 17..
These aren't the same old Browns that are coming to town. Winners of 5 of their last 6. this team is playing with renewed confidence and even though they will not make the playoffs again for the 16th straight season they can still finish with a winning record at 8-7-1. the last time that happened was in 2008 and it would be only their 3rd winning season since the franchise reopened. There's no question Baker Mayfield will be motivated to want to start off his rookie campaign with a winning record and take down the Ravens playoff aspirations with them. This Browns squad is better than that Bengals team that unexpectedly knocked the Ravens out the year before so with good reason this will be an even tougher test for the Ravens to finally knock on that door.
The Ravens are also winners of 5 of their last 6 and were seemingly out of the playoff picture over a month ago until they decided to unleash Lamar Jackson to the football world. The Ravens have been running over opponents into the ground and been playing some stingy defense ever since and havent looked back. This Ravens team have been through hell and back with some tough gutwrenching losses over the past few years and will be in a familiar place once again. Win and get in - nothing more, nothing less. The Ravens are seemingly in a better position than in previous years as nobody thought that it would involve winning the AFC North and that it would be the Steelers and not the Ravens being at one's mercy.
We have one great season finale, led by two first-round former Heismann Trophy winning quarterbacks and the new faces of their respective franchises. the #1 overall pick Baker Mayfield vs the #32 overall pick Lamar Jackson to decide the fate of the AFC North... CAN'T. WAIT.
I would be lying to you if i didnt say i was feeling a little more nervous about this game than i was last week or even last year around this time and its not mainly because of what happened last season in week 17..
These aren't the same old Browns that are coming to town. Winners of 5 of their last 6. this team is playing with renewed confidence and even though they will not make the playoffs again for the 16th straight season they can still finish with a winning record at 8-7-1. the last time that happened was in 2008 and it would be only their 3rd winning season since the franchise reopened. There's no question Baker Mayfield will be motivated to want to start off his rookie campaign with a winning record and take down the Ravens playoff aspirations with them. This Browns squad is better than that Bengals team that unexpectedly knocked the Ravens out the year before so with good reason this will be an even tougher test for the Ravens to finally knock on that door.
The Ravens are also winners of 5 of their last 6 and were seemingly out of the playoff picture over a month ago until they decided to unleash Lamar Jackson to the football world. The Ravens have been running over opponents into the ground and been playing some stingy defense ever since and havent looked back. This Ravens team have been through hell and back with some tough gutwrenching losses over the past few years and will be in a familiar place once again. Win and get in - nothing more, nothing less. The Ravens are seemingly in a better position than in previous years as nobody thought that it would involve winning the AFC North and that it would be the Steelers and not the Ravens being at one's mercy.
We have one great season finale, led by two first-round former Heismann Trophy winning quarterbacks and the new faces of their respective franchises. the #1 overall pick Baker Mayfield vs the #32 overall pick Lamar Jackson to decide the fate of the AFC North... CAN'T. WAIT.
First thing i want to talk about are the Takeaways.
This would be the root cause of my nervousness. I know i said this last week and the Ravens survived but I will say it again a little more emphatically.Lamar Jackson's fumbling issues could finally catch up to him and be the kryptonite that brings down the Ravens' playoff hopes along with him. That is one of the very few concerns i havs going into this game. the Browns have shown throughout the season that their defense is capable of being opportunistic and making game-changing plays.
The Browns are 2nd in the league with 30 takeaways. Despite giving the ball away 21 times(which is the 12th most), the Browns takeaway production outweigh the negatives and give them +9 turnover ratio. By comparison, the Ravens are -5 in turnover ratio and have turned over the ball 19 times(15th most) but their defense only has 14 takeaways(30th least), half of the Browns output, which is a surprise considering the Ravens had the most takeaways of any team the last two seasons(with 62) not including this year. It also shows that the Ravens defense is playing at a high level despite the lack of takeaways and that decent to average defenses need takeaways to mask their deficiencies but i'll get into that later in another segment.
While this general stat is easy to pull up and reference, the turnover differential also seems overwhelmingly overblown in favor of the Browns. Consider that a majority of those takeaways happened in September and October against teams that have consistently turned the ball over. the Browns played Steelers, Jets and Bucs in that span, 3 of the top 10 turnover teams. In week 1, the Browns copped 6 TO's off the Steelers and 8 overall this season, Jets gave up 2 and the Bucs gave up 4. off those 3 teams that literally makes up half of their production right there. Since then, the Browns turnover rate has dropped every quarter(1st QT - 13, 2nd QT - 9, 3rd QT - 5, 4th QT - 3 *pending wk17*)
If we take a look at the last 6 games where both these teams have gone 5-1, the Ravens would have the slight edge in turnover ratio here at -1(7 takeaways, 8 giveaways) to Browns -2(7 takeaways, 9 giveaways). the Ravens defense is starting to get better at takeaways lately which would make things a bit easier for their offense but like i said earlier, the takeaways are just a bonus.
getting back to the original topic. since being starter, Lamar Jackson has fumbled at least once in every game for a total of 8 fumbles and lost 3 of them. the Browns defense have recovered 13 fumbles this season(10 fumble recoveries in their first 8 games, 3 in their last 7 games). In their last 7 games they have 7 forced fumbles with only 3 of them recovered. in their last 3 games they have forced 0 fumbles. Browns have lately played against some teams that generally take care of the ball although im a bit surprised they didnt get any turnovers against the Panthers. do i expect that to change this week? perhaps. the Ravens havent given up as many turnovers compared to the 1st half of the season with Flacco but are still on the borderline of teams that tend to turnover the ball.
Lamar Jackson may or may not fumble against the Browns. i think people still underestimate him. i predicted that we may see a 200 yd passing game from him very soon and he did just that last week. What if Lamar actually has a game where he doesnt fumble the ball at all?
First thing i want to talk about are the Takeaways.
This would be the root cause of my nervousness. I know i said this last week and the Ravens survived but I will say it again a little more emphatically.Lamar Jackson's fumbling issues could finally catch up to him and be the kryptonite that brings down the Ravens' playoff hopes along with him. That is one of the very few concerns i havs going into this game. the Browns have shown throughout the season that their defense is capable of being opportunistic and making game-changing plays.
The Browns are 2nd in the league with 30 takeaways. Despite giving the ball away 21 times(which is the 12th most), the Browns takeaway production outweigh the negatives and give them +9 turnover ratio. By comparison, the Ravens are -5 in turnover ratio and have turned over the ball 19 times(15th most) but their defense only has 14 takeaways(30th least), half of the Browns output, which is a surprise considering the Ravens had the most takeaways of any team the last two seasons(with 62) not including this year. It also shows that the Ravens defense is playing at a high level despite the lack of takeaways and that decent to average defenses need takeaways to mask their deficiencies but i'll get into that later in another segment.
While this general stat is easy to pull up and reference, the turnover differential also seems overwhelmingly overblown in favor of the Browns. Consider that a majority of those takeaways happened in September and October against teams that have consistently turned the ball over. the Browns played Steelers, Jets and Bucs in that span, 3 of the top 10 turnover teams. In week 1, the Browns copped 6 TO's off the Steelers and 8 overall this season, Jets gave up 2 and the Bucs gave up 4. off those 3 teams that literally makes up half of their production right there. Since then, the Browns turnover rate has dropped every quarter(1st QT - 13, 2nd QT - 9, 3rd QT - 5, 4th QT - 3 *pending wk17*)
If we take a look at the last 6 games where both these teams have gone 5-1, the Ravens would have the slight edge in turnover ratio here at -1(7 takeaways, 8 giveaways) to Browns -2(7 takeaways, 9 giveaways). the Ravens defense is starting to get better at takeaways lately which would make things a bit easier for their offense but like i said earlier, the takeaways are just a bonus.
getting back to the original topic. since being starter, Lamar Jackson has fumbled at least once in every game for a total of 8 fumbles and lost 3 of them. the Browns defense have recovered 13 fumbles this season(10 fumble recoveries in their first 8 games, 3 in their last 7 games). In their last 7 games they have 7 forced fumbles with only 3 of them recovered. in their last 3 games they have forced 0 fumbles. Browns have lately played against some teams that generally take care of the ball although im a bit surprised they didnt get any turnovers against the Panthers. do i expect that to change this week? perhaps. the Ravens havent given up as many turnovers compared to the 1st half of the season with Flacco but are still on the borderline of teams that tend to turnover the ball.
Lamar Jackson may or may not fumble against the Browns. i think people still underestimate him. i predicted that we may see a 200 yd passing game from him very soon and he did just that last week. What if Lamar actually has a game where he doesnt fumble the ball at all?
next up, Can the Browns defense stop Lamar Jackson and the Ravens rushing attack?
The Browns defense are allowing an average of 4.5 ypc on the ground which would rank them 18th in ypc and overall have the 24th ranked total rush defense. that's neither good, nor bad but slightly below average as i consider 4.4 ypc to be the median. this would put the Browns almost near the ranks of the bad rush defenses that the Ravens have faced lately but slightly better than those teams and a step below the Chargers rush defense. However, I personally do not factor in the early regular season games and focus on the performances from the past month.
Has the Browns defense improved as of late especially on run defense? It certainly looks that way. the Browns have allowed 617 rush yds on 147 carries for an average of 4.2 ypc, 0.3 better than their season average. Now we look at the opponents and the run offenses the Browns have faced over the last 6 games: Falcons(bad), Bengals*twice*(bad), Texans(good), Panthers(good), Broncos(good).
The Browns didn't have a problem against Tevin Coleman as expected but the Falcons aren't a running team. The Bengals had 100+ rush yards in both meetings(6.5 ypc in the 1st game and 4.3 in the 2nd game) but shows the progress of the Browns run defense from game 1 to game 2 about a month apart. Lamar Miller and gang ran all over the Browns 39 times for 187 yds for 4.8 ypc. which is expected but ever since that loss to the Texans the Browns run defense has improved over the last 3 games. The Panthers had a decent running game but averaged well below the norm at 3.8 ypc albeit with an injured Cam and struggling Panther offense. the shocking part however was the Browns stuffing Phillip Lindsay and the Broncos to 32 yds on 20 carries on the road. Hard to say if that was a one time thing or the start of a change. But give credit where its due, the Browns defense has improved even if their takeaways have been down.
The Browns have also been fairly tough against running QBs allowing only 233 rush yards to them on the season which is exactly the amount of yards the Chargers have but unlike them the Browns allowed 3 rushing TDs to QBs. the Browns also haven't played against many top rushing QBs this season as the Chargers did. Jameis Winston isn't in the top 10 but he rushed 10 times for 55 yds and a TD. Against the top rushing QBs vs the Browns run defense: Mahomes had 2 carries for 18 yds, Deshaun Watson had 7 carries for 30 yds, and Netwon had 5 carries for 23 yds. combined that is 71 yds on 14 att for an 5.1 ypc against the Browns
The Browns haven't played a QB/RB by committee style rushing attack since the Texans in week 13. I don't believe the Browns will hold Lamar Jackson to under 39 yds again like the Chargers did. i predict Lamar will run for 70 to 80 yds and a rush TD if that 5 ypc allowed holds. Lamar Jackson has shown he is capable of throwing the ball and takes what the defenses give him. I don't expect the Browns to hold the Ravens to 9 pts again with an inefficient offense under Flacco.
next up, Can the Browns defense stop Lamar Jackson and the Ravens rushing attack?
The Browns defense are allowing an average of 4.5 ypc on the ground which would rank them 18th in ypc and overall have the 24th ranked total rush defense. that's neither good, nor bad but slightly below average as i consider 4.4 ypc to be the median. this would put the Browns almost near the ranks of the bad rush defenses that the Ravens have faced lately but slightly better than those teams and a step below the Chargers rush defense. However, I personally do not factor in the early regular season games and focus on the performances from the past month.
Has the Browns defense improved as of late especially on run defense? It certainly looks that way. the Browns have allowed 617 rush yds on 147 carries for an average of 4.2 ypc, 0.3 better than their season average. Now we look at the opponents and the run offenses the Browns have faced over the last 6 games: Falcons(bad), Bengals*twice*(bad), Texans(good), Panthers(good), Broncos(good).
The Browns didn't have a problem against Tevin Coleman as expected but the Falcons aren't a running team. The Bengals had 100+ rush yards in both meetings(6.5 ypc in the 1st game and 4.3 in the 2nd game) but shows the progress of the Browns run defense from game 1 to game 2 about a month apart. Lamar Miller and gang ran all over the Browns 39 times for 187 yds for 4.8 ypc. which is expected but ever since that loss to the Texans the Browns run defense has improved over the last 3 games. The Panthers had a decent running game but averaged well below the norm at 3.8 ypc albeit with an injured Cam and struggling Panther offense. the shocking part however was the Browns stuffing Phillip Lindsay and the Broncos to 32 yds on 20 carries on the road. Hard to say if that was a one time thing or the start of a change. But give credit where its due, the Browns defense has improved even if their takeaways have been down.
The Browns have also been fairly tough against running QBs allowing only 233 rush yards to them on the season which is exactly the amount of yards the Chargers have but unlike them the Browns allowed 3 rushing TDs to QBs. the Browns also haven't played against many top rushing QBs this season as the Chargers did. Jameis Winston isn't in the top 10 but he rushed 10 times for 55 yds and a TD. Against the top rushing QBs vs the Browns run defense: Mahomes had 2 carries for 18 yds, Deshaun Watson had 7 carries for 30 yds, and Netwon had 5 carries for 23 yds. combined that is 71 yds on 14 att for an 5.1 ypc against the Browns
The Browns haven't played a QB/RB by committee style rushing attack since the Texans in week 13. I don't believe the Browns will hold Lamar Jackson to under 39 yds again like the Chargers did. i predict Lamar will run for 70 to 80 yds and a rush TD if that 5 ypc allowed holds. Lamar Jackson has shown he is capable of throwing the ball and takes what the defenses give him. I don't expect the Browns to hold the Ravens to 9 pts again with an inefficient offense under Flacco.
Finally, can the Ravens defense stop Baker Mayfield and the upstart Browns?
this is the final question and the biggest piece to the puzzle in handicapping this game. the Ravens defense certainly know where they stand when it comes to late-game collapses and it will be up to them to decide the fate of the Ravens season once again.
In the first meeting between these teams, Baker Mayfield was in his 2nd game as starter and 3rd ever pro game. Mayfield had an alright but uneven statistical performance against the Ravens defense throwing for 342 yds, 1 TD and 1 INT. Keep in mind they played in OT. Mayfield stats would be more like 21-36, 262 yds if the game ended in regulation. The Ravens defense allowed only 1 TD in 3 redzone trips, and did their job the best they could as it was mostly an ugly field goal game. However, the young rookie even outperformed Joe Flacco in that game. If there was a reason why Flacco lost his starting job it all began in week 5 against the Browns. The Ravens had allowed the most yards to Mayfield up until week 13 against the Texans. Can Baker Mayfield have an even better performance against this tough Raven defense on the road?
We can all agree that Baker Mayfield is making progress and is having a fine season for a rookie quarterback. In his first 6 games as starter, Mayfield passed for 1,567 yds - 10 TDs, 7 INTs on 58% completions. In his last 6 games, he has passed for 1,581 yds - 14 TDs, 4 INTs on 72% completions. He's playing much more efficiently, however there is a catch. Look at the pass defenses that Mayfield has played against in his last 6 games ranked by yards/YPP: Falcons(25th; 14th), Bengals(30th; 27th), Texans(29th; 23rd), Panthers(21st; 26th), Broncos(22nd; 25th) and now will have the ineviable task of taking on the Ravens(4th; 1st) pass defense once again. By comparison Mayfield's first 6 games were a bit tougher having to pass against the Ravens and Chargers pass defenses.
We will also have to consider Mayfield's home/road splits where he is just 2-4 on the road this season. He has a 62.5% completion rate on the road compared to 66.5 at home. 1,533 yds - 13 TDs, 7 INTs with a QBR of 91.2 on the road compared to 1,816 yds - 11 TDs 4 INTs with a QBR of 98.6 at home.
It will probably be just as important for the Browns to be able to run the ball as it will be for the Ravens to win the time of possession battle. In their last meeting, the Browns ran the ball 28 times for 112 yds for 4.0 ypc. if there wasn't overtime the Browns would have ran just 21 times for 89 yds for 4.2 ypc. Nick Chubb wasn't a factor in the last game, but he'll be facing a step up in competition and going against the toughest run defense since playing the Texans in week 13. Chubb also is having a good rookie season as well, but hasn't played many good run defenses since being the Browns full-time running back.
The Ravens defense haven't played against a top rushing offense since week 7 & 8 against the Saints and Panthers. the last time they allowed over 100 yds rushing was before the BYE against the Steelers. This will be a good test for the Ravens run defense against Nick Chubb. The Ravens have shown they are capable of stopping a good run offense like the Titans. right now the Ravens are playing at a high level and i expect them to keep Chubb in check and not allow him to rush for over 100 yds.
Finally, can the Ravens defense stop Baker Mayfield and the upstart Browns?
this is the final question and the biggest piece to the puzzle in handicapping this game. the Ravens defense certainly know where they stand when it comes to late-game collapses and it will be up to them to decide the fate of the Ravens season once again.
In the first meeting between these teams, Baker Mayfield was in his 2nd game as starter and 3rd ever pro game. Mayfield had an alright but uneven statistical performance against the Ravens defense throwing for 342 yds, 1 TD and 1 INT. Keep in mind they played in OT. Mayfield stats would be more like 21-36, 262 yds if the game ended in regulation. The Ravens defense allowed only 1 TD in 3 redzone trips, and did their job the best they could as it was mostly an ugly field goal game. However, the young rookie even outperformed Joe Flacco in that game. If there was a reason why Flacco lost his starting job it all began in week 5 against the Browns. The Ravens had allowed the most yards to Mayfield up until week 13 against the Texans. Can Baker Mayfield have an even better performance against this tough Raven defense on the road?
We can all agree that Baker Mayfield is making progress and is having a fine season for a rookie quarterback. In his first 6 games as starter, Mayfield passed for 1,567 yds - 10 TDs, 7 INTs on 58% completions. In his last 6 games, he has passed for 1,581 yds - 14 TDs, 4 INTs on 72% completions. He's playing much more efficiently, however there is a catch. Look at the pass defenses that Mayfield has played against in his last 6 games ranked by yards/YPP: Falcons(25th; 14th), Bengals(30th; 27th), Texans(29th; 23rd), Panthers(21st; 26th), Broncos(22nd; 25th) and now will have the ineviable task of taking on the Ravens(4th; 1st) pass defense once again. By comparison Mayfield's first 6 games were a bit tougher having to pass against the Ravens and Chargers pass defenses.
We will also have to consider Mayfield's home/road splits where he is just 2-4 on the road this season. He has a 62.5% completion rate on the road compared to 66.5 at home. 1,533 yds - 13 TDs, 7 INTs with a QBR of 91.2 on the road compared to 1,816 yds - 11 TDs 4 INTs with a QBR of 98.6 at home.
It will probably be just as important for the Browns to be able to run the ball as it will be for the Ravens to win the time of possession battle. In their last meeting, the Browns ran the ball 28 times for 112 yds for 4.0 ypc. if there wasn't overtime the Browns would have ran just 21 times for 89 yds for 4.2 ypc. Nick Chubb wasn't a factor in the last game, but he'll be facing a step up in competition and going against the toughest run defense since playing the Texans in week 13. Chubb also is having a good rookie season as well, but hasn't played many good run defenses since being the Browns full-time running back.
The Ravens defense haven't played against a top rushing offense since week 7 & 8 against the Saints and Panthers. the last time they allowed over 100 yds rushing was before the BYE against the Steelers. This will be a good test for the Ravens run defense against Nick Chubb. The Ravens have shown they are capable of stopping a good run offense like the Titans. right now the Ravens are playing at a high level and i expect them to keep Chubb in check and not allow him to rush for over 100 yds.
nah i already got the Ravens at -5.5 the other day... seems like i'm the only renegade on the Ravens while everyone else is on the Browns which is fine by me. just doing my homework and hoping for the best.
went up to -6.5 this morning and dropped back to -6.
nah i already got the Ravens at -5.5 the other day... seems like i'm the only renegade on the Ravens while everyone else is on the Browns which is fine by me. just doing my homework and hoping for the best.
went up to -6.5 this morning and dropped back to -6.
Its been mentoned of course but the Browns do no stop the run well and are stronger against the Pass so that works in the Ravens favor and I think the Ravens win and hopefully cover... GL DK
Its been mentoned of course but the Browns do no stop the run well and are stronger against the Pass so that works in the Ravens favor and I think the Ravens win and hopefully cover... GL DK
Its been mentoned of course but the Browns do no stop the run well and are stronger against the Pass so that works in the Ravens favor and I think the Ravens win and hopefully cover... GL DK
if the Browns sell on the run. Lamar can pass just like he did against the Chargers. but yep they'll have to stop the run first
Its been mentoned of course but the Browns do no stop the run well and are stronger against the Pass so that works in the Ravens favor and I think the Ravens win and hopefully cover... GL DK
if the Browns sell on the run. Lamar can pass just like he did against the Chargers. but yep they'll have to stop the run first
After the loss to Cleveland earlier in the season and blowing this same situation last year against the Bengals I’m not sure Cleveland is ready for what they’re in for. Baltimore should be up and lazer focused for this one.
This should be nothing less than a double digit Baltimore win imo.
After the loss to Cleveland earlier in the season and blowing this same situation last year against the Bengals I’m not sure Cleveland is ready for what they’re in for. Baltimore should be up and lazer focused for this one.
This should be nothing less than a double digit Baltimore win imo.
every square i know is on the Ravens. while they may be right, i'll fade them.
if we are going by that point of view... then i guess Browns are the "sharp" play.
currently i'm seeing 52/48 bet percentage in favor of Ravens according to sportsinsight. it was once around 60/40 a few days ago but has dropped day by day guessing more "sharp" money coming in on Browns and it'll probably be 50/50 by gameday.
on covers consensus i'm seeing 57/43 public on Browns, 11-4 covers experts on Browns and this whole forum is on Browns. on SBR consensus 57/43 more wagers on Browns and almost $50,000 more on Browns. all betting articles i read that are making picks on the game are taking Browns ats. walterfootball is taking Browns. nflpickwatch.com 81% are taking Ravens to win SU but as far as ATS, 59% of the so called experts from various outlets are taking the Browns ATS.. i imagine that will get to a little over 60%. Jason La Canfora is taking the Browns.. he's a horrible reporter so eff him. 6 of 8 from the CBS panel are taking Browns ats..
sharp, square, i don't care. i'm just studying the game the best i can and actually "capping" it. i have a number in my head and i'm not making my pick based on what other people like or don't like. i see enough to justify picking the Ravens. no reason why i can't see them winning by a touchdown. they could win by 4, or they could win by 6. if they don't cover then so be it. hopefully it's 6.. i think this line is set nearly on the money.
like i said earlier, anything more than 7 and i was considering taking the Browns but doesn't look like it's going to happen now. i actually respect the Browns a little bit more as an opponent and they'll have plenty of value next season for division futures, and maybe conference futures but that would be reaching it, alot of things would have to go right for that to happen. baby steps of course. i could see them compete for a division title alongside Ravens and Steelers. maybe 3 or 4 years from now the Browns might have a shot to play in the Super Bowl.
every square i know is on the Ravens. while they may be right, i'll fade them.
if we are going by that point of view... then i guess Browns are the "sharp" play.
currently i'm seeing 52/48 bet percentage in favor of Ravens according to sportsinsight. it was once around 60/40 a few days ago but has dropped day by day guessing more "sharp" money coming in on Browns and it'll probably be 50/50 by gameday.
on covers consensus i'm seeing 57/43 public on Browns, 11-4 covers experts on Browns and this whole forum is on Browns. on SBR consensus 57/43 more wagers on Browns and almost $50,000 more on Browns. all betting articles i read that are making picks on the game are taking Browns ats. walterfootball is taking Browns. nflpickwatch.com 81% are taking Ravens to win SU but as far as ATS, 59% of the so called experts from various outlets are taking the Browns ATS.. i imagine that will get to a little over 60%. Jason La Canfora is taking the Browns.. he's a horrible reporter so eff him. 6 of 8 from the CBS panel are taking Browns ats..
sharp, square, i don't care. i'm just studying the game the best i can and actually "capping" it. i have a number in my head and i'm not making my pick based on what other people like or don't like. i see enough to justify picking the Ravens. no reason why i can't see them winning by a touchdown. they could win by 4, or they could win by 6. if they don't cover then so be it. hopefully it's 6.. i think this line is set nearly on the money.
like i said earlier, anything more than 7 and i was considering taking the Browns but doesn't look like it's going to happen now. i actually respect the Browns a little bit more as an opponent and they'll have plenty of value next season for division futures, and maybe conference futures but that would be reaching it, alot of things would have to go right for that to happen. baby steps of course. i could see them compete for a division title alongside Ravens and Steelers. maybe 3 or 4 years from now the Browns might have a shot to play in the Super Bowl.
As a raven fan I’m not nervous at all. This is the Browns. Led by a rookie QB. Going against one of the best defenses in the NFL. This isn’t last year
The Ravens have won 5 of 6. They should be 6-0 if not for some miracle plays by Mahomes. Who should be MVP for taking a team with an avg defense and offensive line this far. The kid is unbelievable I realize the Browns have had a good year but please this is a major step up. I think after what happened last year will give the Ravens even more motivation.
So no need for the big write ups even though much appreciated. The Ravens will pound the Browns this will be a blowout and will be one of my biggest plays this year. Don’t get me wrong I rarely play for o ragainst my team. But I see a great opportunity to make some cash. This is team is on a major roll and you are telling me the browns are going to cover 6 no way. This raven team has gone toe to toe with the chiefs and chargers. I just don’t see the Browns in this game at all.
As a raven fan I’m not nervous at all. This is the Browns. Led by a rookie QB. Going against one of the best defenses in the NFL. This isn’t last year
The Ravens have won 5 of 6. They should be 6-0 if not for some miracle plays by Mahomes. Who should be MVP for taking a team with an avg defense and offensive line this far. The kid is unbelievable I realize the Browns have had a good year but please this is a major step up. I think after what happened last year will give the Ravens even more motivation.
So no need for the big write ups even though much appreciated. The Ravens will pound the Browns this will be a blowout and will be one of my biggest plays this year. Don’t get me wrong I rarely play for o ragainst my team. But I see a great opportunity to make some cash. This is team is on a major roll and you are telling me the browns are going to cover 6 no way. This raven team has gone toe to toe with the chiefs and chargers. I just don’t see the Browns in this game at all.
lol bol bud. if we do lose to the Browns we definitely dont deserve to go. so good luck to you guys in the playoffs if we hand the playoff spot over to you
lol bol bud. if we do lose to the Browns we definitely dont deserve to go. so good luck to you guys in the playoffs if we hand the playoff spot over to you
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