Back for more season long fun... Lost a little in the end last year overall on all of these combined plays, but was oh so close with Georgia at 31-1 to win the Championship, still have nightmares of Tua throwing down the sideline...
RSW's went 4-0-1 (along with 2-0 in NFL)
Here are the first of many to come...
Regular Season Wins (Conference Championship and Bowls do not count)
Ohio State UNDER 10.5 -105 105/100 played on 8/1. Jumped on it the minute the Urban Meyer story broke, currently sits at -120. Was thinking about it anyways after taking everything in to account. New QB in Haskins will have to navigate 3 hard road games (neutral vs. TCU in Arlington, @ Penn State, @ Michigan State). Add in the chance of another clunker (see @ Iowa last year) and only needing 2 losses with this new scandal hanging over their head makes it a play for me.
To win Conference Championship:
Michigan State to win Big10 +775 50/388 played on 8/1. Sparty snuck up late last year after a down 2016. Catch OSU and Michigan at home. The tops teams in the East will beat up on each other and it's easily possible that Dantonio's boys could end up on top
Wisconsin to win Big10 +275 50/138 played on 8/1. By far the class of the West division the Badgers should be sitting back and waiting for the East champion in Indianapolis.
Back for more season long fun... Lost a little in the end last year overall on all of these combined plays, but was oh so close with Georgia at 31-1 to win the Championship, still have nightmares of Tua throwing down the sideline...
RSW's went 4-0-1 (along with 2-0 in NFL)
Here are the first of many to come...
Regular Season Wins (Conference Championship and Bowls do not count)
Ohio State UNDER 10.5 -105 105/100 played on 8/1. Jumped on it the minute the Urban Meyer story broke, currently sits at -120. Was thinking about it anyways after taking everything in to account. New QB in Haskins will have to navigate 3 hard road games (neutral vs. TCU in Arlington, @ Penn State, @ Michigan State). Add in the chance of another clunker (see @ Iowa last year) and only needing 2 losses with this new scandal hanging over their head makes it a play for me.
To win Conference Championship:
Michigan State to win Big10 +775 50/388 played on 8/1. Sparty snuck up late last year after a down 2016. Catch OSU and Michigan at home. The tops teams in the East will beat up on each other and it's easily possible that Dantonio's boys could end up on top
Wisconsin to win Big10 +275 50/138 played on 8/1. By far the class of the West division the Badgers should be sitting back and waiting for the East champion in Indianapolis.
Nick Fitzgerald +4000 40/1600 played on 7/23. Love this play... recipe for Heisman success. On the field: Touches the ball every play in a new spread offense built on run-pass option. Opportunity: gets to play in the spotlight against highly ranked teams. If the team has success in those games (I believe they will) the hype machine builds. The Comeback: The last time we saw him he was laying on the ground with his foot pointing in the wrong direction. The media will eat up the comeback angle.
Ed Oliver +6000 40/2400 played on 7/24. Good find here by scalabrine. Houston HC Major Applewhite announced that Oliver will be getting snaps on offense. The hype will already be there in what could be a lackluster start to the Heisman season as many big names moved to the NFL, so the talk of a defensive player making the trip to NY will start early. Oliver has already said this is his final season in college so many eyes will already be on the potential #1 overall pick.
Nick Fitzgerald +4000 40/1600 played on 7/23. Love this play... recipe for Heisman success. On the field: Touches the ball every play in a new spread offense built on run-pass option. Opportunity: gets to play in the spotlight against highly ranked teams. If the team has success in those games (I believe they will) the hype machine builds. The Comeback: The last time we saw him he was laying on the ground with his foot pointing in the wrong direction. The media will eat up the comeback angle.
Ed Oliver +6000 40/2400 played on 7/24. Good find here by scalabrine. Houston HC Major Applewhite announced that Oliver will be getting snaps on offense. The hype will already be there in what could be a lackluster start to the Heisman season as many big names moved to the NFL, so the talk of a defensive player making the trip to NY will start early. Oliver has already said this is his final season in college so many eyes will already be on the potential #1 overall pick.
But right now I'm thinking the OSU bet might be a bit knee jerk. I have OSU over 10.5 but I'm not going to cancel it with an under bet. Their schedule is just too easy. The Iowa game was a letdown after the emotional Penn St win. No such traps waiting on this schedule.
BUT, if Urban reported that 2015 incident and The University did nothing, bowl bans are possible. That could cause a letdown.
Sparty I do not believe in, schedule too tough. But hey, I've been wrong before!
GL And I hope the OSU issue gets resolved quickly!!!
But right now I'm thinking the OSU bet might be a bit knee jerk. I have OSU over 10.5 but I'm not going to cancel it with an under bet. Their schedule is just too easy. The Iowa game was a letdown after the emotional Penn St win. No such traps waiting on this schedule.
BUT, if Urban reported that 2015 incident and The University did nothing, bowl bans are possible. That could cause a letdown.
Sparty I do not believe in, schedule too tough. But hey, I've been wrong before!
GL And I hope the OSU issue gets resolved quickly!!!
I bookmark your threads and check back on them throughout the season ....
The B1G is going to be awesome this season .... 5 schools are very live in my opinion .... Wisconsin & Sparty are loaded and have good value ...Iowa is dropping fast , they were 40-1 , down to 28-1 in many spots .....
The Ohio St under looks good !!! 5d pulled it otherwise i would likely take a swipe at it ....But ill likely pass when they post new odds ...
I bet Fitzgerald to win the heisman last year ... finna put it in now seeing you on him ...Excited to see the new offense ...Nick is tons of fun to watch , as he has no regard for his health ....
BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
I bookmark your threads and check back on them throughout the season ....
The B1G is going to be awesome this season .... 5 schools are very live in my opinion .... Wisconsin & Sparty are loaded and have good value ...Iowa is dropping fast , they were 40-1 , down to 28-1 in many spots .....
The Ohio St under looks good !!! 5d pulled it otherwise i would likely take a swipe at it ....But ill likely pass when they post new odds ...
I bet Fitzgerald to win the heisman last year ... finna put it in now seeing you on him ...Excited to see the new offense ...Nick is tons of fun to watch , as he has no regard for his health ....
Yeahhhh buddy like the fitzgerald pick if bama is finally on a down tick MS.ST could get a whole lot of attention .. Oliver might not have the hype but the heisman voters really owe us a D player after the Ndmomanaknonong Suh snub.. best of luck this year bud. Hope we get another of those things to watch out for posts really insightful!!!
Yeahhhh buddy like the fitzgerald pick if bama is finally on a down tick MS.ST could get a whole lot of attention .. Oliver might not have the hype but the heisman voters really owe us a D player after the Ndmomanaknonong Suh snub.. best of luck this year bud. Hope we get another of those things to watch out for posts really insightful!!!
Boise State Under 10 -125 188/150 Broncos lose their top playmakers on each side of the ball (WR Cedrick Wilson, LB Leighton Vander Esch). They always lose at least 1 game in conference and the rest of the Mountain West is more competitive this season. A tricky opener at Troy and a visit to Oklahoma State in Week 3 are both tough OOC true road games. There are very few easy games and play out 9 straight against the conference after a Bye in Week 4.
Wisconsin Over 10 -115 173/150 It is tough to find 3 losses on the Badgers schedule. Another weak OOC offering of WKU, New Mexico and BYU does not scare me. 3 tough road games at Iowa, Michigan and Penn State, but they are the better team on paper than all 3 of those teams right now. The entire O-Line returns, a stud Heisman candidate at RB and an improved Hornibrook are all things to be excited about for this play.
UCLA Under 5.5 -120 180/150 Chip Kelly inherits only 5 returning starters on offense and will need some time to condition his players for his signature tempo offense in live game action. They open with Cincinnati at home, then travel to Oklahoma and then return for tough Fresno State. The Pac12 schedule is brutal with road games at Colorado, Cal, Oregon and ASU and they host Washington, Arizona, Utah (on a short week after Arizona), USC and Stanford. It's hard to find 5 wins here, let alone a 6th to beat me.
Normal plays
Florida Atlantic Over 8.5 -120 120/100 Owls dominated in C-USA last year and will do it again. Toughest tests will be games @ Oklahoma in Week 1 and @ UCF in Week 4. Lane Kiffin will have one of his guys at QB and if there are any growing pains, they can still hand it off to Devin Singletary who had 1989 yards last year. I expect WR Willie Wright to have a breakout year. This team will be fun to watch.
Last and of course least...
Michigan Under 9 -105 105/100 The defense will be good, we know that. How will Harbaugh use Shea Patterson? Will he be able to play to his strengths? Can Patterson have success against good defenses? Patterson put up pretty numbers against the weak teams but was stifled when facing the better defenses in the SEC. The Wolverines would have to win 3 of these 5 games to beat this number: @ Notre Dame, vs Wisconsin, @ Michigan State, Penn State, @ Ohio State. Also a tricky game at Northwestern before homecoming at the end of September. Once again, I will leave it to Harbaugh to prove me wrong.
Boise State Under 10 -125 188/150 Broncos lose their top playmakers on each side of the ball (WR Cedrick Wilson, LB Leighton Vander Esch). They always lose at least 1 game in conference and the rest of the Mountain West is more competitive this season. A tricky opener at Troy and a visit to Oklahoma State in Week 3 are both tough OOC true road games. There are very few easy games and play out 9 straight against the conference after a Bye in Week 4.
Wisconsin Over 10 -115 173/150 It is tough to find 3 losses on the Badgers schedule. Another weak OOC offering of WKU, New Mexico and BYU does not scare me. 3 tough road games at Iowa, Michigan and Penn State, but they are the better team on paper than all 3 of those teams right now. The entire O-Line returns, a stud Heisman candidate at RB and an improved Hornibrook are all things to be excited about for this play.
UCLA Under 5.5 -120 180/150 Chip Kelly inherits only 5 returning starters on offense and will need some time to condition his players for his signature tempo offense in live game action. They open with Cincinnati at home, then travel to Oklahoma and then return for tough Fresno State. The Pac12 schedule is brutal with road games at Colorado, Cal, Oregon and ASU and they host Washington, Arizona, Utah (on a short week after Arizona), USC and Stanford. It's hard to find 5 wins here, let alone a 6th to beat me.
Normal plays
Florida Atlantic Over 8.5 -120 120/100 Owls dominated in C-USA last year and will do it again. Toughest tests will be games @ Oklahoma in Week 1 and @ UCF in Week 4. Lane Kiffin will have one of his guys at QB and if there are any growing pains, they can still hand it off to Devin Singletary who had 1989 yards last year. I expect WR Willie Wright to have a breakout year. This team will be fun to watch.
Last and of course least...
Michigan Under 9 -105 105/100 The defense will be good, we know that. How will Harbaugh use Shea Patterson? Will he be able to play to his strengths? Can Patterson have success against good defenses? Patterson put up pretty numbers against the weak teams but was stifled when facing the better defenses in the SEC. The Wolverines would have to win 3 of these 5 games to beat this number: @ Notre Dame, vs Wisconsin, @ Michigan State, Penn State, @ Ohio State. Also a tricky game at Northwestern before homecoming at the end of September. Once again, I will leave it to Harbaugh to prove me wrong.
Added RSW'sStrongest playsBoise State Under 10 -125 188/150 Broncos lose their top playmakers on each side of the ball (WR Cedrick Wilson, LB Leighton Vander Esch). They always lose at least 1 game in conference and the rest of the Mountain West is more competitive this season. A tricky opener at Troy and a visit to Oklahoma State in Week 3 are both tough OOC true road games. There are very few easy games and play out 9 straight against the conference after a Bye in Week 4. Wisconsin Over 10 -115 173/150 It is tough to find 3 losses on the Badgers schedule. Another weak OOC offering of WKU, New Mexico and BYU does not scare me. 3 tough road games at Iowa, Michigan and Penn State, but they are the better team on paper than all 3 of those teams right now. The entire O-Line returns, a stud Heisman candidate at RB and an improved Hornibrook are all things to be excited about for this play.UCLA Under 5.5 -120 180/150 Chip Kelly inherits only 5 returning starters on offense and will need some time to condition his players for his signature tempo offense in live game action. They open with Cincinnati at home, then travel to Oklahoma and then return for tough Fresno State. The Pac12 schedule is brutal with road games at Colorado, Cal, Oregon and ASU and they host Washington, Arizona, Utah (on a short week after Arizona), USC and Stanford. It's hard to find 5 wins here, let alone a 6th to beat me. Normal playsFlorida Atlantic Over 8.5 -120 120/100 Owls dominated in C-USA last year and will do it again. Toughest tests will be games @ Oklahoma in Week 1 and @ UCF in Week 4. Lane Kiffin will have one of his guys at QB and if there are any growing pains, they can still hand it off to Devin Singletary who had 1989 yards last year. I expect WR Willie Wright to have a breakout year. This team will be fun to watch.Last and of course least...Michigan Under 9 -105 105/100 The defense will be good, we know that. How will Harbaugh use Shea Patterson? Will he be able to play to his strengths? Can Patterson have success against good defenses? Patterson put up pretty numbers against the weak teams but was stifled when facing the better defenses in the SEC. The Wolverines would have to win 3 of these 5 games to beat this number: @ Notre Dame, vs Wisconsin, @ Michigan State, Penn State, @ Ohio State. Also a tricky game at Northwestern before homecoming at the end of September. Once again, I will leave it to Harbaugh to prove me wrong.
Really like the the FL ATL o8.5........I just dont see 4 losses on that schedule.............They have 10 returning on defense to a unit that allowed under 400YDS last season per game............QB Chris Robison is a tranfer from Oklahoma and is very talented and they should have better production from the QB position.....I see no reason why they cannot win 9-10 games.
Added RSW'sStrongest playsBoise State Under 10 -125 188/150 Broncos lose their top playmakers on each side of the ball (WR Cedrick Wilson, LB Leighton Vander Esch). They always lose at least 1 game in conference and the rest of the Mountain West is more competitive this season. A tricky opener at Troy and a visit to Oklahoma State in Week 3 are both tough OOC true road games. There are very few easy games and play out 9 straight against the conference after a Bye in Week 4. Wisconsin Over 10 -115 173/150 It is tough to find 3 losses on the Badgers schedule. Another weak OOC offering of WKU, New Mexico and BYU does not scare me. 3 tough road games at Iowa, Michigan and Penn State, but they are the better team on paper than all 3 of those teams right now. The entire O-Line returns, a stud Heisman candidate at RB and an improved Hornibrook are all things to be excited about for this play.UCLA Under 5.5 -120 180/150 Chip Kelly inherits only 5 returning starters on offense and will need some time to condition his players for his signature tempo offense in live game action. They open with Cincinnati at home, then travel to Oklahoma and then return for tough Fresno State. The Pac12 schedule is brutal with road games at Colorado, Cal, Oregon and ASU and they host Washington, Arizona, Utah (on a short week after Arizona), USC and Stanford. It's hard to find 5 wins here, let alone a 6th to beat me. Normal playsFlorida Atlantic Over 8.5 -120 120/100 Owls dominated in C-USA last year and will do it again. Toughest tests will be games @ Oklahoma in Week 1 and @ UCF in Week 4. Lane Kiffin will have one of his guys at QB and if there are any growing pains, they can still hand it off to Devin Singletary who had 1989 yards last year. I expect WR Willie Wright to have a breakout year. This team will be fun to watch.Last and of course least...Michigan Under 9 -105 105/100 The defense will be good, we know that. How will Harbaugh use Shea Patterson? Will he be able to play to his strengths? Can Patterson have success against good defenses? Patterson put up pretty numbers against the weak teams but was stifled when facing the better defenses in the SEC. The Wolverines would have to win 3 of these 5 games to beat this number: @ Notre Dame, vs Wisconsin, @ Michigan State, Penn State, @ Ohio State. Also a tricky game at Northwestern before homecoming at the end of September. Once again, I will leave it to Harbaugh to prove me wrong.
Really like the the FL ATL o8.5........I just dont see 4 losses on that schedule.............They have 10 returning on defense to a unit that allowed under 400YDS last season per game............QB Chris Robison is a tranfer from Oklahoma and is very talented and they should have better production from the QB position.....I see no reason why they cannot win 9-10 games.
Fresno State O 8 -110 220/200 In my final notes from last season I had it simply put "Fresno... good again next year". Last year they put up a 9-3 regular season. 2 losses were back to back road games in September @ Alabama and @ Washington. We made fun of that murderers row schedule, and while they weren't totally competitive they did cover those games. That experience must have helped because although not much was expected from them, they rattled off 8 wins in the next 9 games. This year they avoid top teams OOC and face Minnesota, UCLA and Toledo instead. Much easier road to 9 wins. They also get Wyoming and SDSU at home, they don't have to travel to Hawaii and their toughest road conference game @ Boise in the probably MW Championship Game preview on 11/9. They finish with San Jose State. A boatload of upperclassmen return. Lots to like here for Jeff Tedford's Bulldogs
Fresno State O 8 -110 220/200 In my final notes from last season I had it simply put "Fresno... good again next year". Last year they put up a 9-3 regular season. 2 losses were back to back road games in September @ Alabama and @ Washington. We made fun of that murderers row schedule, and while they weren't totally competitive they did cover those games. That experience must have helped because although not much was expected from them, they rattled off 8 wins in the next 9 games. This year they avoid top teams OOC and face Minnesota, UCLA and Toledo instead. Much easier road to 9 wins. They also get Wyoming and SDSU at home, they don't have to travel to Hawaii and their toughest road conference game @ Boise in the probably MW Championship Game preview on 11/9. They finish with San Jose State. A boatload of upperclassmen return. Lots to like here for Jeff Tedford's Bulldogs
On the scheduling thread, I pointed out that Michigan begins and ends on the road for the first time in 20 years. I'll be popping in and out of threads all day Saturday, and, of course, tag along on your Sunday morning thread. Practically makes me want to not have a hangover on Sunday!
Meanwhile, I gotta Sparty Party to view at 4:00 MST that needs my attention. Favored by 3+ touchdowns, they had the annoying habit of playing to the competition despite being a 10-win team.
Welcome back, my friend, to the show that never that never ends......
On the scheduling thread, I pointed out that Michigan begins and ends on the road for the first time in 20 years. I'll be popping in and out of threads all day Saturday, and, of course, tag along on your Sunday morning thread. Practically makes me want to not have a hangover on Sunday!
Meanwhile, I gotta Sparty Party to view at 4:00 MST that needs my attention. Favored by 3+ touchdowns, they had the annoying habit of playing to the competition despite being a 10-win team.
Welcome back, my friend, to the show that never that never ends......
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