Joe Thomas hung up his cleats today.
Didn't realize you responded haha. Your'e obviously missing the point too if the arguement is Tyrod is better qb in the now than Bradford, Bridgewater, or any other qb mentions. The debate isn't over mediocrity here. Weather you get to 5-7 wins with Tyrod or another qb is irrevelant. Doesn't matter what you're eyes saw they all get you around the same product. The Browns aren't building **** around Tyrod Taylor. They're still taking a qb in the first round. Now if all the qb's mentioned said they won't sign then I can get behind the trade.
Didn't realize you responded haha. Your'e obviously missing the point too if the arguement is Tyrod is better qb in the now than Bradford, Bridgewater, or any other qb mentions. The debate isn't over mediocrity here. Weather you get to 5-7 wins with Tyrod or another qb is irrevelant. Doesn't matter what you're eyes saw they all get you around the same product. The Browns aren't building **** around Tyrod Taylor. They're still taking a qb in the first round. Now if all the qb's mentioned said they won't sign then I can get behind the trade.
Ryan David Leaf (born May 15, 1976) is a former American football player who was a quarterback in the National Football League (NFL) for four seasons. He played for the San Diego Chargers and the Dallas Cowboys between 1998 and 2001, and also spent time with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Seattle Seahawks.
Leaf had a successful college career for the Washington State Cougars of Washington State University, where he was a finalist for the Heisman Trophy after his junior year. He was selected as the second overall pick in the 1998 NFL Draft after Peyton Manning, but his career was short and interrupted by poor play, bad behavior, and injuries, and he struggled with his work ethic and ability to stay focused. An episode of NFL Top 10 ranked him as the No. 1 "draft bust" in NFL history.
After his NFL career ended, Leaf completed his degree at Washington State. He would later have legal troubles involving drugs beginning in 2010, after a Texas judge sentenced him to 10 years' probation. Two years later, Leaf pleaded guilty to felony burglary and drug possession in Montana. After a suspended sentence with a stint in drug rehabilitation, Leaf began serving a seven-year sentence in state prison in December 2012. In 2014, Leaf was sentenced to five years in prison for breaking into a home in Montana to steal prescription drugs, which violated his Texas probation. He was released from prison on December 3, 2014.[1]
Leaf currently works as Program Ambassador for Transcend Recovery Community, a group of sober living houses in Los Angeles, Houston, and New York.
Ryan David Leaf (born May 15, 1976) is a former American football player who was a quarterback in the National Football League (NFL) for four seasons. He played for the San Diego Chargers and the Dallas Cowboys between 1998 and 2001, and also spent time with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Seattle Seahawks.
Leaf had a successful college career for the Washington State Cougars of Washington State University, where he was a finalist for the Heisman Trophy after his junior year. He was selected as the second overall pick in the 1998 NFL Draft after Peyton Manning, but his career was short and interrupted by poor play, bad behavior, and injuries, and he struggled with his work ethic and ability to stay focused. An episode of NFL Top 10 ranked him as the No. 1 "draft bust" in NFL history.
After his NFL career ended, Leaf completed his degree at Washington State. He would later have legal troubles involving drugs beginning in 2010, after a Texas judge sentenced him to 10 years' probation. Two years later, Leaf pleaded guilty to felony burglary and drug possession in Montana. After a suspended sentence with a stint in drug rehabilitation, Leaf began serving a seven-year sentence in state prison in December 2012. In 2014, Leaf was sentenced to five years in prison for breaking into a home in Montana to steal prescription drugs, which violated his Texas probation. He was released from prison on December 3, 2014.[1]
Leaf currently works as Program Ambassador for Transcend Recovery Community, a group of sober living houses in Los Angeles, Houston, and New York.
Ryan David Leaf (born May 15, 1976) is a former American football player who was a quarterback in the National Football League (NFL) for four seasons. He played for the San Diego Chargers and the Dallas Cowboys between 1998 and 2001, and also spent time with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Seattle Seahawks.
Leaf had a successful college career for the Washington State Cougars of Washington State University, where he was a finalist for the Heisman Trophy after his junior year. He was selected as the second overall pick in the 1998 NFL Draft after Peyton Manning, but his career was short and interrupted by poor play, bad behavior, and injuries, and he struggled with his work ethic and ability to stay focused. An episode of NFL Top 10 ranked him as the No. 1 "draft bust" in NFL history.
After his NFL career ended, Leaf completed his degree at Washington State. He would later have legal troubles involving drugs beginning in 2010, after a Texas judge sentenced him to 10 years' probation. Two years later, Leaf pleaded guilty to felony burglary and drug possession in Montana. After a suspended sentence with a stint in drug rehabilitation, Leaf began serving a seven-year sentence in state prison in December 2012. In 2014, Leaf was sentenced to five years in prison for breaking into a home in Montana to steal prescription drugs, which violated his Texas probation. He was released from prison on December 3, 2014.[1]
Leaf currently works as Program Ambassador for Transcend Recovery Community, a group of sober living houses in Los Angeles, Houston, and New York.
Ryan David Leaf (born May 15, 1976) is a former American football player who was a quarterback in the National Football League (NFL) for four seasons. He played for the San Diego Chargers and the Dallas Cowboys between 1998 and 2001, and also spent time with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Seattle Seahawks.
Leaf had a successful college career for the Washington State Cougars of Washington State University, where he was a finalist for the Heisman Trophy after his junior year. He was selected as the second overall pick in the 1998 NFL Draft after Peyton Manning, but his career was short and interrupted by poor play, bad behavior, and injuries, and he struggled with his work ethic and ability to stay focused. An episode of NFL Top 10 ranked him as the No. 1 "draft bust" in NFL history.
After his NFL career ended, Leaf completed his degree at Washington State. He would later have legal troubles involving drugs beginning in 2010, after a Texas judge sentenced him to 10 years' probation. Two years later, Leaf pleaded guilty to felony burglary and drug possession in Montana. After a suspended sentence with a stint in drug rehabilitation, Leaf began serving a seven-year sentence in state prison in December 2012. In 2014, Leaf was sentenced to five years in prison for breaking into a home in Montana to steal prescription drugs, which violated his Texas probation. He was released from prison on December 3, 2014.[1]
Leaf currently works as Program Ambassador for Transcend Recovery Community, a group of sober living houses in Los Angeles, Houston, and New York.
Football Outsiders was right; the Mayfield pick was a good one. Things are looking up although CLV could slip a little this year based on a much-tougher scheduled and likely regression due to a record of 7-2 in one-score games.
Football Outsiders was right; the Mayfield pick was a good one. Things are looking up although CLV could slip a little this year based on a much-tougher scheduled and likely regression due to a record of 7-2 in one-score games.
he is a good Game manager.. not good enough to carry a team. Browns really managed him last season. 2019 was gun slinger Baker.. 2020.. game manager Baker..
he is a good Game manager.. not good enough to carry a team. Browns really managed him last season. 2019 was gun slinger Baker.. 2020.. game manager Baker..
@DogbiteWilliams
Cleveland will only get better IMO...they will prosper because they have more talent and experience than last year and everyone is on the same page with this Kevin Stefanski guy...the man is a winner.
I am old enough to remember when Jim Brown played and they were world champs (1964)...I like the idea of the sister city 130 miles North on the turnpike making a comeback. They outplayed the Chiefs in the playoffs IMO and could have won that game.
Last year they averaged 25 per game on offense and gave up 26 on D...but I see them improving on D this year. I hope the season is played without any interruptions. From the outhouse to the penthouse...it will be a fun journey for the Cleveland faithful.
@DogbiteWilliams
Cleveland will only get better IMO...they will prosper because they have more talent and experience than last year and everyone is on the same page with this Kevin Stefanski guy...the man is a winner.
I am old enough to remember when Jim Brown played and they were world champs (1964)...I like the idea of the sister city 130 miles North on the turnpike making a comeback. They outplayed the Chiefs in the playoffs IMO and could have won that game.
Last year they averaged 25 per game on offense and gave up 26 on D...but I see them improving on D this year. I hope the season is played without any interruptions. From the outhouse to the penthouse...it will be a fun journey for the Cleveland faithful.
Lancer89074, I gave your post an upvote because I appreciate your optimism. Unfortunately, I don't share it. CLV was 7-2 in one-score games and those results tend to regress in the following year, and all those narrow wins just burden CLV with a much-tougher schedule.
I certainly hope you are right and I am wrong. Since you are a better football analyst than I am, this CLV fan will gladly be wrong.
Lancer89074, I gave your post an upvote because I appreciate your optimism. Unfortunately, I don't share it. CLV was 7-2 in one-score games and those results tend to regress in the following year, and all those narrow wins just burden CLV with a much-tougher schedule.
I certainly hope you are right and I am wrong. Since you are a better football analyst than I am, this CLV fan will gladly be wrong.
odell beckham coming back, he will cry for the ball and could make the offense worse, with baker forcing him the ball. They should try to trade him.
odell beckham coming back, he will cry for the ball and could make the offense worse, with baker forcing him the ball. They should try to trade him.
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