In 1976 the Oakland Raiders despite being the most winningest team in pro football the previous 10 years had yet to win a Super Bowl. The Raiders had suffered some hard luck and strange losses in games leading up the the grand prize every season, especially to their arch nemesis the Pittsburgh Steelers in the playoffs.
The Raiders sat at 12-1 and had home field throughout locked up as they prepared to play their second last game of the regular season. It was Monday Night Football Game, and it was against the Bengals. Now heading into this game all the Raiders had to do was lose to the Bengals and the Bengals were in and the Steelers would be eliminated from the playoffs and therefore not pose a threat to the Raiders quest to finally win the Super Bowl. Everyone expected them to tank, because quite frankly it was the "smart" thing to do according to everyone.
The Raiders came out in fire and scored early and often, as they went on to thump a very good Bengals squad 35-20 and the game was not even as close as the score would suggest. When as later why they did not just rest starters or not play their best. They simply replied, "because that is not what champions do. Champions don't play scared and champions don't lie down for anyone in any situation."" That's not Raider football." Al Davis later said out of all the great wins those Raider teams had that night was his proudest moment.
The Raiders won their final game to finish 13-1 and they won both their playoff games, including ofcourse a trouncing of the Pittsburgh Steelers whom got in because the Raiders hard play in what was a meaningless game to them, allowed them in. All this on route to their first ever Super Bowl win where they crushed the Vikings.
Champions don't lie down and play for situations. Chumps do.
The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
In 1976 the Oakland Raiders despite being the most winningest team in pro football the previous 10 years had yet to win a Super Bowl. The Raiders had suffered some hard luck and strange losses in games leading up the the grand prize every season, especially to their arch nemesis the Pittsburgh Steelers in the playoffs.
The Raiders sat at 12-1 and had home field throughout locked up as they prepared to play their second last game of the regular season. It was Monday Night Football Game, and it was against the Bengals. Now heading into this game all the Raiders had to do was lose to the Bengals and the Bengals were in and the Steelers would be eliminated from the playoffs and therefore not pose a threat to the Raiders quest to finally win the Super Bowl. Everyone expected them to tank, because quite frankly it was the "smart" thing to do according to everyone.
The Raiders came out in fire and scored early and often, as they went on to thump a very good Bengals squad 35-20 and the game was not even as close as the score would suggest. When as later why they did not just rest starters or not play their best. They simply replied, "because that is not what champions do. Champions don't play scared and champions don't lie down for anyone in any situation."" That's not Raider football." Al Davis later said out of all the great wins those Raider teams had that night was his proudest moment.
The Raiders won their final game to finish 13-1 and they won both their playoff games, including ofcourse a trouncing of the Pittsburgh Steelers whom got in because the Raiders hard play in what was a meaningless game to them, allowed them in. All this on route to their first ever Super Bowl win where they crushed the Vikings.
Champions don't lie down and play for situations. Chumps do.
hmmm...don't think Harbaugh would agree with you especially with the way the Eagles have been playing lately. Home field is usually huge in the NFL.
Coupled with the packers "D" I'll take my chances in GB. SF would blow them out without MATTHEWS, LACY?, and Rodgers a hit away, like Matthews from hurting the collar bone again.? Just a thought??????????????///
hmmm...don't think Harbaugh would agree with you especially with the way the Eagles have been playing lately. Home field is usually huge in the NFL.
Coupled with the packers "D" I'll take my chances in GB. SF would blow them out without MATTHEWS, LACY?, and Rodgers a hit away, like Matthews from hurting the collar bone again.? Just a thought??????????????///
In 1976 the Oakland Raiders despite being the most winningest team in pro football the previous 10 years had yet to win a Super Bowl. The Raiders had suffered some hard luck and strange losses in games leading up the the grand prize every season, especially to their arch nemesis the Pittsburgh Steelers in the playoffs.
The Raiders sat at 12-1 and had home field throughout locked up as they prepared to play their second last game of the regular season. It was Monday Night Football Game, and it was against the Bengals. Now heading into this game all the Raiders had to do was lose to the Bengals and the Bengals were in and the Steelers would be eliminated from the playoffs and therefore not pose a threat to the Raiders quest to finally win the Super Bowl. Everyone expected them to tank, because quite frankly it was the "smart" thing to do according to everyone.
The Raiders came out in fire and scored early and often, as they went on to thump a very good Bengals squad 35-20 and the game was not even as close as the score would suggest. When as later why they did not just rest starters or not play their best. They simply replied, "because that is not what champions do. Champions don't play scared and champions don't lie down for anyone in any situation."" That's not Raider football." Al Davis later said out of all the great wins those Raider teams had that night was his proudest moment.
The Raiders won their final game to finish 13-1 and they won both their playoff games, including ofcourse a trouncing of the Pittsburgh Steelers whom got in because the Raiders hard play in what was a meaningless game to them, allowed them in. All this on route to their first ever Super Bowl win where they crushed the Vikings.
Champions don't lie down and play for situations. Chumps do.
once the win the Super Bowl and are crowned champions then its easy to say they didn't lay down for anyone. your comment has hindsight bias. champions inevitably have LOTS of luck/breaks that lead to their ring. last year's champion no diff. sometimes these breaks come in the form of their draw, thats all I'm saying.
you prob also believe in NOT fouling when a team is up 3 with a few seconds to go. because thats what 'chumps' do. well, i would always foul. I'm actually curious if theres data that breaks down all basketball games (cbb and nba) to record those games where a team was up 3 with less than 10 seconds to go and opposing team had the ball. curious to see the W/L when a team fouls on purpose vs. not
In 1976 the Oakland Raiders despite being the most winningest team in pro football the previous 10 years had yet to win a Super Bowl. The Raiders had suffered some hard luck and strange losses in games leading up the the grand prize every season, especially to their arch nemesis the Pittsburgh Steelers in the playoffs.
The Raiders sat at 12-1 and had home field throughout locked up as they prepared to play their second last game of the regular season. It was Monday Night Football Game, and it was against the Bengals. Now heading into this game all the Raiders had to do was lose to the Bengals and the Bengals were in and the Steelers would be eliminated from the playoffs and therefore not pose a threat to the Raiders quest to finally win the Super Bowl. Everyone expected them to tank, because quite frankly it was the "smart" thing to do according to everyone.
The Raiders came out in fire and scored early and often, as they went on to thump a very good Bengals squad 35-20 and the game was not even as close as the score would suggest. When as later why they did not just rest starters or not play their best. They simply replied, "because that is not what champions do. Champions don't play scared and champions don't lie down for anyone in any situation."" That's not Raider football." Al Davis later said out of all the great wins those Raider teams had that night was his proudest moment.
The Raiders won their final game to finish 13-1 and they won both their playoff games, including ofcourse a trouncing of the Pittsburgh Steelers whom got in because the Raiders hard play in what was a meaningless game to them, allowed them in. All this on route to their first ever Super Bowl win where they crushed the Vikings.
Champions don't lie down and play for situations. Chumps do.
once the win the Super Bowl and are crowned champions then its easy to say they didn't lay down for anyone. your comment has hindsight bias. champions inevitably have LOTS of luck/breaks that lead to their ring. last year's champion no diff. sometimes these breaks come in the form of their draw, thats all I'm saying.
you prob also believe in NOT fouling when a team is up 3 with a few seconds to go. because thats what 'chumps' do. well, i would always foul. I'm actually curious if theres data that breaks down all basketball games (cbb and nba) to record those games where a team was up 3 with less than 10 seconds to go and opposing team had the ball. curious to see the W/L when a team fouls on purpose vs. not
once the win the Super Bowl and are crowned champions then its easy to say they didn't lay down for anyone. your comment has hindsight bias. champions inevitably have LOTS of luck/breaks that lead to their ring. last year's champion no diff. sometimes these breaks come in the form of their draw, thats all I'm saying.
you prob also believe in NOT fouling when a team is up 3 with a few seconds to go. because thats what 'chumps' do. well, i would always foul. I'm actually curious if theres data that breaks down all basketball games (cbb and nba) to record those games where a team was up 3 with less than 10 seconds to go and opposing team had the ball. curious to see the W/L when a team fouls on purpose vs. not
He wasn't talking about lucks or breaks at all. That's a given every year, you always need to get some breaks. He is stating that Champions do not "decide to tank" as your thread title suggests. They don't pick and choose who to beat and when. They beat everyone that gets in their path, no mercy. You have to beat the best in order to be the best.
once the win the Super Bowl and are crowned champions then its easy to say they didn't lay down for anyone. your comment has hindsight bias. champions inevitably have LOTS of luck/breaks that lead to their ring. last year's champion no diff. sometimes these breaks come in the form of their draw, thats all I'm saying.
you prob also believe in NOT fouling when a team is up 3 with a few seconds to go. because thats what 'chumps' do. well, i would always foul. I'm actually curious if theres data that breaks down all basketball games (cbb and nba) to record those games where a team was up 3 with less than 10 seconds to go and opposing team had the ball. curious to see the W/L when a team fouls on purpose vs. not
He wasn't talking about lucks or breaks at all. That's a given every year, you always need to get some breaks. He is stating that Champions do not "decide to tank" as your thread title suggests. They don't pick and choose who to beat and when. They beat everyone that gets in their path, no mercy. You have to beat the best in order to be the best.
once the win the Super Bowl and are crowned champions then its easy to say they didn't lay down for anyone. your comment has hindsight bias. champions inevitably have LOTS of luck/breaks that lead to their ring. last year's champion no diff. sometimes these breaks come in the form of their draw, thats all I'm saying.
you prob also believe in NOT fouling when a team is up 3 with a few seconds to go. because thats what 'chumps' do. well, i would always foul. I'm actually curious if theres data that breaks down all basketball games (cbb and nba) to record those games where a team was up 3 with less than 10 seconds to go and opposing team had the ball. curious to see the W/L when a team fouls on purpose vs. not
WTF? Are you drunk??? I did not say anything remotely close to anything about luck or breaks, I simply laid out something that took place in history. I gave you an example of what championship teams do and the mentality they have. How on earth did you get any of what you seem to have absorbed out of what i said?? Wow dude....Where is the hindsight in giving you an example of fact about how a championship team played in this exact kind of situation in the past? I mean wow...I'm at a loss for words that you got that out of that. And to bring up Ballerina Ball and compare it to Gladiator Ball?? What language do you speak buddy because it can't be english..Goodluck with everything kid I'm gonna get out of this thread before my IQ level gets any points shaved off of it...
The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
once the win the Super Bowl and are crowned champions then its easy to say they didn't lay down for anyone. your comment has hindsight bias. champions inevitably have LOTS of luck/breaks that lead to their ring. last year's champion no diff. sometimes these breaks come in the form of their draw, thats all I'm saying.
you prob also believe in NOT fouling when a team is up 3 with a few seconds to go. because thats what 'chumps' do. well, i would always foul. I'm actually curious if theres data that breaks down all basketball games (cbb and nba) to record those games where a team was up 3 with less than 10 seconds to go and opposing team had the ball. curious to see the W/L when a team fouls on purpose vs. not
WTF? Are you drunk??? I did not say anything remotely close to anything about luck or breaks, I simply laid out something that took place in history. I gave you an example of what championship teams do and the mentality they have. How on earth did you get any of what you seem to have absorbed out of what i said?? Wow dude....Where is the hindsight in giving you an example of fact about how a championship team played in this exact kind of situation in the past? I mean wow...I'm at a loss for words that you got that out of that. And to bring up Ballerina Ball and compare it to Gladiator Ball?? What language do you speak buddy because it can't be english..Goodluck with everything kid I'm gonna get out of this thread before my IQ level gets any points shaved off of it...
once the win the Super Bowl and are crowned champions then its easy to say they didn't lay down for anyone. your comment has hindsight bias.
Bud please go reread the example of historical fact I gave you, not hindsight but facts that transpired. It actually troubles me that you were not able to understand this, so please try again and merry christmas. I am going back to bed, this made me laugh and hurt my brain all at the same time.
The lion and the tiger may be more powerful, but the wolf doesn't perform in the circus.
once the win the Super Bowl and are crowned champions then its easy to say they didn't lay down for anyone. your comment has hindsight bias.
Bud please go reread the example of historical fact I gave you, not hindsight but facts that transpired. It actually troubles me that you were not able to understand this, so please try again and merry christmas. I am going back to bed, this made me laugh and hurt my brain all at the same time.
I didn't realize Philly clinched the division already. All these idiots in the media keep saying there playing for the division title this week....they obviously aren't on covers or looking at this thread cause they would know that Philly clinched if they were......
I didn't realize Philly clinched the division already. All these idiots in the media keep saying there playing for the division title this week....they obviously aren't on covers or looking at this thread cause they would know that Philly clinched if they were......
The only thing SF has going on is the new stadium... And they have already secured the funding thanks to last years SB LOSS. Hell they even turned off the lights when PITT played SF just to add fuel to the flame... I dont see them going anywhere... Not in this league
The only thing SF has going on is the new stadium... And they have already secured the funding thanks to last years SB LOSS. Hell they even turned off the lights when PITT played SF just to add fuel to the flame... I dont see them going anywhere... Not in this league
The only thing SF has going on is the new stadium... And they have already secured the funding thanks to last years SB LOSS. Hell they even turned off the lights when PITT played SF just to add fuel to the flame... I dont see them going anywhere... Not in this league
Funding?? The new stadium is already 80% complete bro. Will be ready by summer.
The only thing SF has going on is the new stadium... And they have already secured the funding thanks to last years SB LOSS. Hell they even turned off the lights when PITT played SF just to add fuel to the flame... I dont see them going anywhere... Not in this league
Funding?? The new stadium is already 80% complete bro. Will be ready by summer.
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