*** Utah Jazz @ Oklahoma City Thunder *** Series Bet

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good to see you in this race, love the play 


bol in the playoffs lc, lets cash 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by alvaro_duarte:

The only things I get worried about is that OKC is winning in clutch times specially since ASG (11 wins). But, OKC and Utah have almost the same Net Rtg, so not a big deal.

Basically, RSW, PG and CA are the guys to take responsability of shots in those clutch moments. Actually, RSW shots more than twice than those 2 that are struggling. And, don't forget how bad they are in free throws.

Utah is really rolling through season but those tough losses versus the celtics and the hawks at home have made me feel a little bit concerned if they can win the series. 2 losses in clutch moment that hurt their position (they could have finished in 3rd and take on new orleans instead)


They’ve won in those clutch spots simply because the league wanted them in the playoffs chief. OKC equals ratings. What they do in  the playoffs is anybody’s guess but I won’t pretend that they don’t have a shot to beat the Jazz. I do lean Jazz but counting OKC out completely in the first round would be dumb. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Jailbait7127:

hey LC, you still on 5d? if so the line is +120 over there! gl 

Yeah misplayed that, should have realized the line would go up as OKC is the more public of the two teams. Locked my bet in already though but still love it despite the bad line.

OKC is fav team, Westbrook struggles against teams with good centers. He plays around the rim more than any PG in the league. Wonder what his o/u is in points I would definitely lean under
 
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great to see you back in the fold brother ! 

I love this pick , although it wouldn't surprise me if it goes 6 or 7 

imo this could be the most competitive first round series , other than maybe the raps series 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by MoreGeezer:

Be careful guys.
Star power in the playoffs usually counts more than team play.
Dont go too big with this bet.Still saying that even though i like Jazz too


Geezer is right on here, LC. After the league allowed Utah to advance past the Clippers last year, you saw the ratings disaster that followed. No way in hell will the NBA keep us from seeing the OKC/Rockets. Zero chance! OKC is the best bet here, and at a cheap price for what is almost a guaranteed lock. It might go 6, it might even go 7, but no way we get Utah in the second round again. No way. 
 
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OKC vs Rockets will be the most watched second round series by far! Maybe the highest rated besides Rockets vs Warriors.
 
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While the pick and reasoning makes a whole lotta sense, I don’t see RWB and Paul George together getting bounced from the playoffs round 1 (not even including a past his prime melo). Adams can bang with Gobert in the paint, and George will have the Mitchell assignment. Utah’s scoring can also go through droughts with Mitchell on guard. I’m not gonna rely on Rubio to score during the playoffs that’s for sure. 

 
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Westbrook will go off on that ROokie COokie.

im taking OKC for the series......
 
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


Geezer is right on here, LC. After the league allowed Utah to advance past the Clippers last year, you saw the ratings disaster that followed. No way in hell will the NBA keep us from seeing the OKC/Rockets. Zero chance! OKC is the best bet here, and at a cheap price for what is almost a guaranteed lock. It might go 6, it might even go 7, but no way we get Utah in the second round again. No way. 

NBA doesn't determine who advances, players do.
 
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BOL  peace_5

 
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:

Yepper..........................

Melo is a shadow of himself. Player Efficiency Rating is 12.7, league ave is 15. His career ave is over 20.  He is shooting a dreadful 43.7% on 2 pointers and OKC ranks 18th in off FG%.

OKC ranks no. 1 in off rebs, no wonder, they miss so many shots and have loads of off rebs available to them.

Getting more off rebs has correlation to losing the game. 
Shooting a better FG % has high correlation to winning the game.



 
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Quote Originally Posted by simple3:

What about OKC's offense since Roberson went down? You gotta tell both sides of the story. They're a net negative without Roberson but their offensive rating has improved 2 points (defense -4) so net -2.

The thing is though, who are they performing against? OKC is 26-23 vs above .500 teams and just 22-11 against under .500 teams. Jazz are 26-26 vs .500 and 22-8 vs under .500 teams.

Now I don't know when these games were so you'd have to really analyse the schedule which is helluva lot of work.

Also OKC is 11-4 vs teams ranked 1-5  and 3-11 vs teams ranked 6-10. What does this tell you? They only get up for big games? Or did they play most of these 1-5 teams before Roberson went down and both of the 6-10 teams after? I don't know, using teamrankings if anyone else wants to have a look by the way.


Jazz are also 14-5 SU against teams with a better than .500 win percentage since Rudy Gobert fully returned to the lineup midseason. They were an underdog in 8 of those games as well. 

Outside of Westbrook and George who do the Thunder have? Guys like Jerami Grant, Raymond Felton, Corey Brewer, Abrines. 

Snyder will easily outcoach Donavan in this matchup

 
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Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:


NBA doesn't determine who advances, players do.

Love you, LC. But you are dead wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjRcTiwVEwo

 
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


Geezer is right on here, LC. After the league allowed Utah to advance past the Clippers last year, you saw the ratings disaster that followed. No way in hell will the NBA keep us from seeing the OKC/Rockets. Zero chance! OKC is the best bet here, and at a cheap price for what is almost a guaranteed lock. It might go 6, it might even go 7, but no way we get Utah in the second round again. No way. 


For the record, last year Jazz ranked 3rd in both my power ratings, Clippers ranked 4th and 7th and Jazz were one of the 1st round upsets I called.

LC is right, the players decided who advanced and they will do the same this year, Jazz the likely series winner.

There is a far bigger gap between Jazz and OKC then there was between Jazz and Clippers last year.

What gives you value on the Jazz is the fact that the ave person may not like them , they may not be flashy but play good solid fundamental basketball that produces wins.
 
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I would have to agree withe pick
 
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Do Jazz take game 1? I have to think they have a good shot here and try to set the tone. 

For +155 and +4 im on it!


 
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Have you guy actually watched Rudy Gobert play 
He is uncoordinated and sloppy, he cannot accept a pass on the move w/o fumbling the ball. We will see about a claim to him as Defensive player of the yr...NO WAY !!
Steven Adams will dominate this match up...
plus Ill take RWB, Paul George and even C Anthony over a Rookie in his 1st playoff series, Joe Ingles and D Favors..
Good Luck on your play, but I am all over OKC...
 
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Rubio or Westbrook ?

Adams or Gobert ?

George or Mitchell ?

Anthony or Ingles ?

On paper this game looks like a easy cover 4 OKC. No playoff experience for Utah & deep down inside over achievers. Game one I’m taking the home team - 4.

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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:


Love you, LC. But you are dead wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjRcTiwVEwo

Going to youtube! LOL! Tell Elvis we said hi

Youtube for the answers
 
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OKC in 6 easy $$$

 
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Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:


NBA doesn't determine who advances, players do.





I love your picks but this is a total lack of insight. As, whistle after whistle goes against you and for the POS Westbrook, get back to me on this.

The NBA is all about star players, took me 20 years of losses to figure this one out.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:






I love your picks but this is a total lack of insight. As, whistle after whistle goes against you and for the POS Westbrook, get back to me on this.

The NBA is all about star players, took me 20 years of losses to figure this one out.




Many times somebody brings this up before a game they are proven incorrect.

We'll watch this series and see if your proven incorrect.

Then they change the story  to fit the fix is in senerio..


 
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Quote Originally Posted by imsoti8:

Rubio or Westbrook ?

Adams or Gobert ?

George or Mitchell ?

Anthony or Ingles ?

On paper this game looks like a easy cover 4 OKC. No playoff experience for Utah & deep down inside over achievers. Game one I’m taking the home team - 4.

gl


What paper are you looking at ?

Player efficiency ratings..............

Ingles 14.4....melo 12.7...edge ingles
Gobert 20.7 ...adams 20.6.......about even
Westbrook 24.7...Rubio 15.4
George 18.8.....Mitchel 16.2.....edge Geaorge
Favors 18.8  fairly big over anyone on OKC. .........edge Favors

Bench edge Utah.


FG % differential.. Jazz 5th....Okc 16th, last place in playoffs.
Shooting efficiency, 2 pts, 3pts, FT, TO  ........Jazz 5th..Okc 15th


What paper are you looking at ? On paper Jazz easily the better team.

 
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Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 12:31 PM ET "Quote" Rubio or Westbrook ? Adams or Gobert ? George or Mitchell ? Anthony or Ingles ? On paper this game looks like a easy cover 4 OKC. No playoff experience for Utah & deep down inside over achievers. Game one I’m taking the home team - 4. gl

On paper...

Westbrook #1 in assist & Rubio tied #22 league avg

Westbrook #5 in steals George #2 & Rubio #12 & Mitchell tied #18 league avg 

Westbrook #7 in scoring George #17 & Anthony #42 & Mitchell #53 & Rubio tied #75 Hell Adams tied #63 league avg

Westbrook #10 rebounds & Adams tied #13 & Gobert tied #10 & Favors #34 league avg

The two stats UTAH has an advantage shooting % and blocks.

Heart you can't measure!!!

 

 

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