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Mysticrich, I'll play along if Brady isn't good name 20 QB's in league history better than him or for that matter 10. I assume you must feel BB is best coach ever if he could win so many games with a bum at QB; so what QB's in modern era do you feel could have had same success as Brady with these Pats Teams? |
MYSTICRICH | 40 |
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Quote Originally Posted by smarterthanyou:
the wilson football corporation is going to sue belichek for his lying during the saturday presser. their spokesman today said twice that everything belichek said was "BS".
You think talking to two marketing reps from Wilson is the same as the Wilson company debunking BB? Wilson had no dog in this fight and should have stayed out of it; we know their ball bladders don't leak air. However pressure inside a leak proof urethane bladder goes up when the bladder is heated and goes down when the bladder is cooled. Maybe you should join suit with Mark Brunelle, Troy Aikmen, Jerome Bettis and all cry it out together. |
LogCottage | 26 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8IZste6zQ0 Plenty of long throws in here. You're right the system is why Brady is good. |
MYSTICRICH | 40 |
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Quote Originally Posted by MYSTICRICH:
I could have throw that TD pass with an inflated ball an under inflated ball, right handed, left handed or with my left Nut
Well if you can play pro QB what are you doing on here. Did Brady bang your boyfriend or something. I just don't get the hate. |
MYSTICRICH | 40 |
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Bill Nye another clown; calls him out, yet doesn't run a test study to prove him wrong. He's scientist instead of saying you can't do it take two hours and prove it.
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begginerboy | 10 |
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I heard from a source at Foxboro that the kid was a Brady Superfan. He actually took the balls into a restroom stall to stroke one out all over them. Apparently his member was large has it's own area code; now the only thing that will come out of this is ruining some poor kids like over jerking it. That story is as plausible as yours. Again there is no evidence or statements from the league. No one from NFL has stated balls PSI before game or at halftime for either team. We do know Brady couldn't hit the side of a barn in 1st half with what we were told were under inflated balls and when they allegedly pumped them up he went 9/9 with 2 TDs in third quarter. First Chris Mortensen started this misinformation and now Jay Glaser says they have a person of interest what is this a murder mystery. How long was he in the room for, why was he in the room tell me. I believe he may have been getting the balls wet and sticky as per the source I heard from. |
MYSTICRICH | 40 |
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It's true Pats have bad record on grass especially ATS; but look at the where they performed poorly @ GB, DEN, KC, MIA; not many teams win on those grass fields. It does seem Blount has trouble getting a head of steam on Grass which could hurt running game.
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yto | 16 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:
The investigation found the footballs were inflated 2 pounds per square inch below what's required by NFL regulations during the Pats' 45-7 victory over the Indianapolis Colts, according to sources. https://espn.go.com/boston/story/_/id/12202450/nfl-says-new-england-patriots-had-inflated-footballs-afc-championship-game
I asked for a link where the NFL stated the balls were 2 PSI underinflated but it doesn't exist. According to your link this is right from the article: "league sources involved and familiar with the investigation of Sunday's AFC Championship Game told ESPN" "We are not commenting at this time," said Greg Aiello, the NFL's senior vice president of communications. That makes sense, the league according to Aiello isn't commenting, but an anonymous league source is commenting to ESPN? The NFL has never stated anything; so how do we know what the ball pressure was pregame relative to at halftime for either team. Based on this you believe they should sanction them in line with Bounty Gate? Maybe I'm out of touch and feel free to set me straight. I began believing the Patriots were a bunch of lying cheats but now feel this whole thing is witch hunt led be ESPN. Notice all the players that have negative comments work for a Network yet all players that mention changes in ball inflation is common place don't. The crazier you sound Wilbon/ Aikmen/ Brunell(crying over it; really) the more coverage you get. |
smallwagaaman | 38 |
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2 PSI to be exact? how can his balls lose 1.5 psi.......and the other side of the field, they stayed the same? Provide me with a link where the NFL stated this. Have seen the logs of the balls from each team pregame and at the half; if so you are privy to information no one has? Otherwise you are just speculating. A report from an NFL source means zero they've been wrong from the beginning starting with D'qwell Jackson tipped them and then it was the Ravens. When has the NFL said all Colts balls were exactly the same PSI at the half and all Pats balls dropped 2 PSI. I did see a report from a "league source" that 11 balls were underinflated and the Colts balls were not underinflated. Perhaps the Colts were at 14.5 PSI and Pats started at 12.5 PSI and they both dropped 2 PSI? |
smallwagaaman | 38 |
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"Patriots as a team did a control study"
i'd love THAT study to be submitted for independent analysis.
There will be multiple studies done now; surprised all the networks calling them out hadn't already called on Universities to do so before claiming they knew the Pats cheated. I'm assuming the Pats brought in experts and it wasn't Bob and Bill with some gauges, air pump and a notebook. He put it out there now so any one can easily discredit him with a study of the balls. So game on if he's lying ;my guess is he isn't or he just opened them up to a lot more problems..
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smallwagaaman | 38 |
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Quote Originally Posted by penguins1503:
How many times have the Patriots been accused of cheating?. Three times!, that's three times more than any other NFL team. therefore We all know that "if walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it must be a DUCK!!!!".
Really no other team in NFL history has been accused of cheating. Not the Raiders, Not Carolina's whole team being on Roids during Super Bowl in biggest PED scandal in 20 years. Not Seattle with the alleged use of Ritalin when anyone knows players don't have to admit what they took so it was more likely Roids, Not Denver and Dallas cheating on Salary Cap. Not Denver getting caught spying. on SF practices Not MN vs Carolina this year putting footballs in heaters on sidelines. Not NO trying to injure other teams QB's with bounties? Not Colts pumping heat and artificial noise into their stadium? I could go on all day but you're right Pats have been "accused" three times but not three times more than anyone else. Keep trying though. |
richbrooks | 27 |
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Belichick fired up; and he did it without throwing league or refs under bus, which he could have. Finally tells the haters Spy Gate was a bunch of BS. 80k people good see the signals and they were taping same as the rest of the league. Pats are on warpath can't see Seattle winning this game.
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smallwagaaman | 38 |
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Chaka26]
Even if the game was played underwater the test would still fail to solve anything as not all pats balls were equal and colts balls were fine
You have proof of this? You saw the reports or video of the gauges before game and at halftime of both teams balls and the Colts had no deflation, and the Patriots did. I agree that the test is flawed the NFL refs and their process on this "rule" no one ever heard of is even more flawed. Just come out said you approved the balls for play. The Colts tried pulling some gamesmanship to slow down the Pats never realizing this would be headline news.
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Bluefin | 13 |
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Too bad Gerry Austin is retired and wasn't there; so how the darn does he know? Where is Walt Anderson hiding he was the ref of the game and not a peep. Could it be he never inspected the balls pregame or didn't gauge the PSI because no one ever heard of a PSI before this became the #1 story in America. The only thing I found interesting is the Belichick likes to get the players balls wet and sticky at practice and if they don't like it he makes it worse. He really is a sick person capable of anything.
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Bluefin | 13 |
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Quote Originally Posted by MYSTICRICH:
It means cells phones and Text messages But ,they have many camera's everywhere they know where the balls were and it's only Brady and the equipment guys , the balls were obviously tampered with it's an easy investigation .
With millions on advertising dollars at risk these sponsors want a good game a Brady Belichick suspension for the super bowl would be like the NFL shooting themselves in the foot
The Fraud QB who needs deflated balls to throw his little 1-10 passes to wide open receivers will be dealt with after the SB ,
I never seen a bigger hater then you. Congrats |
Rick_Rude | 12 |
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vegasslim, Has Walt Anderson confirmed they were at the correct pressure before the game. If not how does anyone know they were ever deflated. More plausible the Equipment guy or whoever handles this gave the refs the ball and with Typical NFL referee incompetence they never measured the PSI. The balls were never inflated properly and the refs didn't stop it; so the balls were legal. That's the only thing that makes sense until we see evidence they were inflated over 12.5 pre game and then were 10.5 at halftime it's all speculation. If that's the case then someone took air out of the balls and it could've been the Colts as Brady couldn't hit the side f a barn in 1st half, then magically went 9/9 with two td's in 3rd Quarter with a more inflated ball. |
friendofBW | 8 |
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Originally we were told by the Mortensen report tha D'qwell Jackson noticed the ball was underinflated and reported it to Colts staff; now he says that's untrue. Then it was Baltimore tipped off the Colts yet they say they didn't have an issue with the balls. Thus far all we have is a report 11 balls were underinflated at half time. Until I see evidence from Walt Anderson, either video or sworn avadavat with witnesses of what the PSI was before the game started then how can anyone say they deflated anything? More than likely they submitted the balls. The Refs gave them a squeeze ;said they're good and that was it. That makes more sense than the weather caused deflation, a rogue ball boy or a conspiracy with the equipment manager to deflate all balls equally. Also were is the journal of PSI pregame and at halftime; so we know exactly what the deflation amount was otherwise this is all speculation that they let air out of the balls. That looks like the refs not doing their jobs in making sure the PSI was correct. How many of those screaming cheaters ever heard of a PSI and the rule before this game? Those that say they did are the same ones saying Pats taped practices; yet the only thing they were ever found guilty of was taping from a newly illegal vantage point in a regular season game. One could make the case they never submitted under inflated balls at all. Why couldn't Brady hit a pass with the cheat ball in 1st half but once they were inflated to proper PSI he went 9/9 to start 2nd half. All these analyst say the lower PSI is easier to throw and catch; then why couldn't the Patriots do either until the properly inflated ball got into play. It seems Brady throws the ball much better with proper inflation. Sports media is on a witch hunt and filling in all the blanks when the only thing anyone knows for certain is they inflated balls at the half and then the Patriots played better and outscored Colts 28-0. Is this even a story if it's not the Patriots |
friendofBW | 8 |
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paster21 | 15 |
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Does anyone know where Paster finds the 3 game series trends?
Thanks |
friendofBW | 1 |
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Hey Paster, Thanks for posting this info has really helped me out. This may have been addressed before; if so sorry. When you say RL is it always as a favorite or is it as dog or favorite? For example HOU was dog today and won SU so they covered RL too; as would any dog that wins straight up. I've been playing Dogs that are RL trend with Reverse RL and has worked great today AZ earlier in week TOR big payouts. |
paster21 | 19 |
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