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Cutler vs Rodgers..... If you have to think about it, there are other sports out there...
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Cutler vs Rodgers...... If you have to think about it maybe the NFL isn't for you.
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Seattle may have that marquee player in Graham just like they had with Harvin. Rams have a new QB so I would assume it will take time to adjust. Seattle is a tough start to make that adjustment... Hawks -3.5.
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If both Defenses shut down passing game,  Pats in trouble.  Wilson will run around or just take off.  Huge advantage Seattle.  

Pats abandoned running game against Ravens and exploited Baltimore secondary.  That won't happen in this game.  Pats need to get creative especially on third down.

Brady and game plan must be flawless and capitalize on turnovers unlike The Pack and maybe they win.

Personally I don't think it matters, physical beating coming.

Seahawks minus whatever..
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Quote Originally Posted by holtnt:

Tommy Terrific has had a long and illustrious career and there is no doubt he will be a first Ballot Hall of Famer, but there is a lot of wear and tear on those treads Ladies and Gentlemen.  This will be the 22 game of the season for the Hall of Famer when you factor in the pre-season and it was VERY obvious to me Father Time has caught up with the old man as he was throwing the ball with very little velocity last week in that Ravens game.

 

Chuck Pagano has his Colts peaking at the opportune time and they are playing extremely fast on the defensive ball.  I am of the opinion New England will NOT be able to run the ball down the Colts throats in this matchup like they did during the regular season which means old man Brady and his lack of velocity is going to have to outduel the young gun aka Andrew Luck.

 

Tommy Terrific has had an outstanding run, but all good things must come to an end.  The changing of the guard will be officially complete on Sunday when young Lord Luck completes the sweep of Manning and Brady in consecutive weeks and leads his squad to the Super Bowl.  NOTE:  Jim Irsay will be unbearable to be around at the conclusion of this game as I am quite sure he is going to tell everybody that will listen he has the greatest mind in football due to his decision to dump #18 and draft Luck.

 

With all that being said, put me down for Indianapolis plus the chalk (6.5) for a Dime AND Indianapolis ML (+215) for a Nickel please.  Thanks! 


How are things my friend?!  Thought I'd give this site a look today, it's been a while.. And almost turned it off but saw your post, always entertaining.  

However, lol, I'm not seeing the Colts here, maybe it's because the Pats ran all over them last time in Indy and Brady put 35 on a much better defense last week in the Ravens..  Add Brady pretty good at home in playoffs, 25-2 or something like that and a revamped Pat secondary tells me another rout.  

That said, I will hedge my NE futures bet with yours out of respect.

GL my friend and keep the posts coming!
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Quote Originally Posted by holtnt:

Ball GAME Ladies and Gentlemen!  As stated earlier, Harvin looks explosive! 


Great job Holt, see you around buddy.  
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Hey easypicks can u enlighten me please, I'm all ears!
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Wowwwwwwwww!  
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
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Quote Originally Posted by holtnt:

Shxty axx spot by the referees…

 

Regardless, with less than a yard and Beast Mode in the backfield, why in the hxll didn’t Pete go for that! 


Agree replay clearly showed the ball landing where the marker sat.  Blew threw it like it never happened..
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Btw, I meant to say my fav team is the one I have money on regardless of who it is
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Sicsemper] Sorry, post 316 [/Quot


I like your avatar, I don't live in Washington , and my fav team is the one I have money on which is Seattle.  Even if I thought Denver was the better team, Manning is a little to shady for my hard earned dollars to take the leap.  

GL 
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Quote Originally Posted by easypics:


Based on Holtnt 's theories , We are guilty of  1 st degree Homerizing my friend.
 ? 

Dare you bet on IF Factors,
Then Good Luck To you...

However all your comments neglect to mention Seattle's inexperience n' Sub Par play 
ON THE ROAD 
Barely beating Carolina on the road , first game of the year impresses ?
Try this for $ize :
Name the second toughest venue to play in the NFL ?

That would be KC...
In very few words, Denver has proven success in last 2 years where Seattle struggles :

WINNING ON THE ROAD under Adverse conditions.

That's indisputable.

GL

Beating the Chiefs at Arrowhead, weren't they 4-12 last year?  Both teams 6-2 on the road.  No home  field advantage for  either, but I would cite the weather and type of field are home cooking for Seattle.  Those don't sound like adverse conditions for Seattle do they?
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Quote Originally Posted by holtnt:

Some of you Covers members who have posted multiple write-ups touting Denver are extreme “Homers” or have a vested interest in a sportsbook somewhere; either way Seattle it is Ladies and Gentlemen!  Put me down for Seattle ML (+113) for a Dime please.  Thanks! 



Regardless of sides always appreciate your write ups Holt. GL today!

Go Hawks!
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Not a Seattle homer sicsemper, but look at uncommon opponents in this tilt.  Seattle had to play defending NFC champ SF 3 times this year, and could have won all three hadn't it been for a late breakaway run by Gore in SF.  Then they dismantled the Saints as well as defeating the Panthers for a second consecutive year in their own back yard.  Throw in the Cardinals this year who bolstered a top 5 defense minus a self induced fumble by Corbin setting  up the game winner, and one could argue that Seattle should've swept em.  

The Rams were no slouches either, just ask Indy...  There's  nine tough games right there and a 7-2 record against.  If one analyzes Seattle's losses this year, one would see that they were literally seconds away from going 16-0.  Throw in 2-0 in the playoffs and for laughs 4-0 in the preseason including a beat down of the Broncos 40-10 and it looks like 22-0 from one perspective eh?

Denver on the other hand was clearly the best AFC team, but their resume pales in comparison.  The Pats were a mash unit all season, losing Talib in the first quarter of the AFC championship game which was the death blow as Manning exposed the backup repeatedly.  If you look at Denver's tough opponents, SD, Indy and NE, Denver's record is 3-3.  If you think KC is in the conversation ...5-3.  Outside of that who did they play?  

If we are talking battle tested, my money is on the table, in fact I booked Seattle 10-1 last February before the Harvin deal.  Since then, I've hedged my bet, but would still go with the battle tested Seahawks hands down.  GL.

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The media has done a great job hearding the sheep...

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Quote Originally Posted by Xyberz:


Sadly it's hard to compare when both teams played extremely different schedules.  This IS the best test for both teams this year and I'm sure that ALL of us can agree on that fact.  

Denver never faced a top 3 defense nor has Seattle faced a top 3 offense.  This game will prove who is the better team.  

Next year these two are slated to meet again during the regular season, along with more higher powered offenses on Seattle's schedule.  Even though the schedule isn't out yet but the teams that are set to play against each other has been made already.  

It's hours till game time so BOL to everyone, may the better team win and cover the spread.  

See New Orleans Saints.
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Quote Originally Posted by Xyberz:


Sadly it's hard to compare when both teams played extremely different schedules.  This IS the best test for both teams this year and I'm sure that ALL of us can agree on that fact.  

Denver never faced a top 3 defense nor has Seattle faced a top 3 offense.  This game will prove who is the better team.  

Next year these two are slated to meet again during the regular season, along with more higher powered offenses on Seattle's schedule.  Even though the schedule isn't out yet but the teams that are set to play against each other has been made already.  

It's hours till game time so BOL to everyone, may the better team win and cover the spread.  

I guess the Saints don't fall into the top 3 offenses, but anyone who has watched New Orleans over the years knows they have one of the most prolific offenses in the game.  Btw, the Saints had trouble scoring more than ten in both games v Seattle. Meanwhile, the Seattle averaged 26 against the the best defenses.  Is Denver in that category?... I think not.  
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Quote Originally Posted by Xyberz:


Clearly you don't even look at Wilsons' stats in the pocket which is the goal for Denver.  He SUCKS and is BELOW average in stats, QBR, EVERYTHING.  Sure it will be hard to contain Lynch, but I'm sure they'll do a better job than containing Moreno.  Why does every Seattle backer believe that it will only come down to Manning pass on every play?  Seattle will and can only pressure Manning IF they can get to him in about the 3 seconds it takes for this master of the game to get the ball out.  That's hardly enough time to pressure a QB unless the offensive line just gives up.  If for some reason the secondary can take away the pass, that WILL open up the run play, that in turn opens up the pass.  

It's basic football and clearly this concept has flew over the heads of every Seattle backer.  Denver is MUCH more well balanced offensively and has a GOOD defense.  Seattle has a good run game with a  mistake prone QB which can get out of the pocket to extend plays.  First play against SF in the last game, WILSON FUMBLE 

Seattle's O-line allows for a lot of sacks and pressure on Wilson, MUCH more than against Manning, especially during the end of the season. 

It's clear that you want to avoid actual stats to support Seattle.  Maybe you love them, maybe you don't but it seems like you really HATE Denver.  I don't hate Seattle one bit, I believe they're a good team but also have their flaws, just like Denver except they have many more where it really counts.  It's these flaws that will dictate the game.  

Denver has proved they can outscore ANYONE, including other high powered offenses while Seattle has proved that they can only beat average ranked offenses.  Indy proved that you can score on this impressive secondary and score A LOT.  34 points is nothing to sneeze at.  When it came down to who can score more, they lost to Indy with weather not being an absolute factor.  Seems like they really should've had their "12th man" there, then maybe they would've had a better chance of winning.  

Wilson barely getting 200 passing yards against Denver will become an issue in this game.  Even when he and Lynch both ran for a couple over 100 yards which were both season highs for both men up till that point, they still LOST.  Yes they had the lead first but when it came down to the surprising passing game, which Seattle is known for defending against, got torched for 2 TD's to TY Hilton.  Where was Sherman in all of that?  I saw that he got BURNT in that game off the line.  Funny thing is that Denver is ranked 1 higher in overall defense in the regular season than Indy and only got BETTER!  Wow, not impressive at all huh?

Now imagine in that Indy game, they primarily had Wayne and Hilton as their best receivers.  That's 2, Denver has 4 receivers just as good if not better!  Keep trying to show me something that actually makes me believe that Seattle is an overall better team than Denver.  

Show me a quality win.  This game is looking like FSU v Auburn except Seattle has a defense, #1 in the league last time I looked .  Denver still without two key players on their defense, Lynch will run, and so will Wilson when he needs too.  If Bronco receivers are shut down and they can't run, neither can Manning?

Seattle played down several times this year, one could argue they could have won the three they lost, all to eleven win teams.  Who did Denver beat this year, San Diego?

Gl with your bet, I'm sitting on Sea at 10-1 booked last Feb, hedged if course, but would still take the points here and fade the public.