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cave0707
cave0707

Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

Come on Cave all I need to do is point to DETOX switching sides to prove that we're all not DUG in on our views. Please let me know when a conservative changes teams - that could be a while. Actually, I've never known one...

That's funny about the changing teams comment because I did around 2009/2010/2011.  I went through some personal hardships financially and health wise which changed my perception of myself and life in general.  Trust me, I was probably more hardcore republican than YOU!  I grew up in a military family and worked many years in the greedy financial sector.  All i cared about was low taxes, zero government intervention in business and a STRONG military!!!  Times have changed for me ... politically speaking.

Maximus1978
Maximus1978

[Quote: Originally Posted by packersbackers]Go Vegan immediately and supplement with a few natural remedies like Berberine, Guggul, Sytrinol[/Quote

Never heard of Sytrinol.  How did you find out about this?  I researched it a bit and it looks pretty legit.

cave0707
cave0707

Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:

FAmazingly I’ve learned quite a bit with some really good gems that most in the media have overlooked on purpose or not.  I come here everyday and read the new posts.  Never know what you may learn.  Forum should stay.  Why not just leave Cave?  I know you never would have said this had Trump not been doing so well.  Wanna take your ball and go home huh?

Oh man, that last part made me laugh!  I don't wanna to ruin the game for the rest of you.  This forum has the most committed loyalists compared to the other non gambling forums on this site.    

cave0707
cave0707

is pointless.  It's the equivalent of a religious forum or religious debate.  It just goes on and on and on with no end in sight.  Obviously I'm part of the problem cause I throw out my two cents and it feels like a big waste of my time ... and it's a big waste of your time for reading my posts ... and a big waste of the moderators time for keeping the order (maybe they give us a little more leeway in this forum compared to others).  The other non betting forums here on covers have topics varying in subject that stimulate humorous/insightful/fascinating/bizzare replys.  Here's its just one side bitching at the other and we all know which guys are on which team.  Right vs Left, Conservative vs Liberal, Trump vs Obama, etc, etc, etc.  I think it would be best for covers to shutter the political forum once and for all and replace it with something more interesting.  What would you guys vote for?  I'm thinking ....   

cave0707
cave0707
Politics / Trump's CFO / View Post

Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

The only sad, pathetic stayement midnight inside this thread is a very liberal, a very proud liberal mamed thirdperson bringing up the erroneous religion of Barrack Hussein Obama.  That is all.
Religion has no place in politics... this is coming from a voter who identifies as republican

I agree.  Not surprisingly I am a big fan of "separation of church and state".  But we have so many @ss clowns in politics trying to implement and enforce their particular religious beliefs on ALL of us through legislation.  I can't stand it.

cave0707
cave0707
Politics / Trump's CFO / View Post

I don't know how I missed this but I read Allen Weisselberg (Trump Organization CFO) was granted immunity in exchange for information/testimony in the Cohen case.  My understanding is that he has ONLY cooperated with the feds regarding Cohen's case.  If this guy flips and spills the entire can of beans ... Trump will be finished.  This is the man Trump needs to save his pardon card for ... he needs to make it known that under no circumstance will he allow Weisselberg go to federal prison.  Which reminds me ... is Trump's tax audit over yet?  Thought he was gunna release his returns after the audit.  Or another b.s. campaign promise.  

Doubleadownon12
Doubleadownon12
Politics / N word tape / View Post

Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

Omarosa was Trumps very own creation on his tv show, and now he cant stop the spread of verbal ebola that comes out of her mouth...oh the irony

Well said  an_clap

ilsp2003
ilsp2003
Many years ago (late 90's) I was told a Top Secret clearance would take 9 months to get.  For a brief time I worked for a defense contractor and had to eventually get one if I stayed on.  I ended up taking another job in a different sector and sometimes I wonder if they would of given a schmuck like me security clearance.  From my very LIMITED understanding security clearance for these guys (Brennan, McRaven) is needed so current employees (example, supreme commander of NATO ... etc, etc) can solicit advice from the former guy that held the same position.  In the end experience matters and you can't consult your elders if they don't have relevant and recent intelligence briefings/reports.  That's just my two cents regarding this matter.
LRM704
LRM704

Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Quote Originally Posted by cave0707:

  And what is your point with what he did at UT?  Texas passed the concealed carry law and the UT campus conceal carry laws are in accordance with Texas law.  The Texas DREAM Act passed in 2001 allows illegal aliens to pay in state tuition.  So what policy CHANGES are you referring too?  He didn't make those policy changes, the state politicians did.  Sounds like you're full of sh*t.  
McRaven was appointed the chancellor of The University of Texas System in Jan.2015..Texas Senate Bill 11 – known as "campus carry" –did not take effect till Aug. 1, 2016...Admiral McRaven was one of the most prominent opponents of the "campus carry" bill before it was passed and it is my understanding prior to the Senate Bill becoming law the policy under McRaven was concealed handguns could not be carried into classrooms, dormitories and other buildings..now if you have something different lets hear it.

You're correct.  He was opposed concealed carry on campus but once the law went into effect, UT had no choice but to follow the state laws.  He had a strong opinion regarding this matter but at no time did he implement or enforce a new policy based on his personal agenda.  He and UT are simply following state law.  You said "during his tenure he made policy changes (like a good liberal) he concealed handguns on campus and he was for allowing illegal immigrants in the country to pay cheaper, in-state tuition."  I'm saying he made NO such changes, the politicians did regarding the concealed carry and Texas DREAM Act.  So yes he had a strong opinion regarding on campus conceal carry ... but having an opinion and implementing his own policies are two different things.  Now if your point is he has liberal/progressive/etc, etc views regarding the two laws I've mentioned then I concur.  

https://campuscarry.utexas.edu/

 

LRM704
LRM704

Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Navy Admiral William McRaven showed good leadership in the military,however not so much in academia  (U of Texas) he had policy clashes with state lawmakers and had to step down after his three-year contract expired..Although, during his tenure he made policy changes (like a good liberal) he concealed handguns on campus and he was for allowing illegal immigrants in the country to pay cheaper, in-state tuition..

And he was also a 

Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:

I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.Like most Americans, I had hoped that when you became president, you would rise to the occasion and become the leader this great nation needs. [...]Your leadership, however, has shown little of these qualities. Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.                                  Navy Admiral William McRaven 
You forgot to add the opening that shows someone whose judgement and personal associations disqualify him for the trust that a security clearance requires and the president should honor his request and pull his clearance immediately.....Dear Mr. President: Former CIA director John Brennan, whose security clearance you revoked on Wednesday, is one of the finest public servants I have ever known. Few Americans have done more to protect this country than John. He is a man of unparalleled integrity, whose honesty and character have never been in question, except by those who don’t know him.For that alone McRavens clearance should be revoked...Brennan was caught red-handed lying about the CIA spying on Congress.

Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

Navy Admiral William McRaven showed good leadership in the military,however not so much in academia  (U of Texas) he had policy clashes with state lawmakers and had to step down after his three-year contract expired..Although, during his tenure he made policy changes (like a good liberal) he concealed handguns on campus and he was for allowing illegal immigrants in the country to pay cheaper, in-state tuition..

Not just good leadership ... McRaven is a decorated Navy SEAL. SEAL Team 6 operator and commanded at every level of spec ops.  Did you even know this guy was "Bull Frog" until 2011?  You probably don't even know what that is.  And what is your point with what he did at UT?  Texas passed the concealed carry law and the UT campus conceal carry laws are in accordance with Texas law.  The Texas DREAM Act passed in 2001 allows illegal aliens to pay in state tuition.  So what policy CHANGES are you referring too?  He didn't make those policy changes, the state politicians did.  Sounds like you're full of sh*t.  

cave0707
cave0707

My two cents ... despite all the hype from crypto promoters and crypto evangelists, there still is virtually nothing holders of bitcoin or any other crypto currency can do besides trade it.  They have no practical utility in traditional markets and/or in daily commerce.  Buy, hold and pray is no option here.  

 

 

cave0707
cave0707

Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

Quote Originally Posted by Doja45:

That’s a fair question sickness. I will throw out my 2 cents. I do not want to stop legal immigration, but I do want to put a pin in it until we can get our hands around the massive illegal immigration problem. Living in SoCal makes this a very visible issue on a daily basis. At what point do we run out of space and resources? There has to be moderation.It is very difficult to get a work visa in Australia. They want to make sure the candidate will be productive and contribute to their country. It’s a privilege to call America home, not a right
I want to stop legal immigration. Not just from central American countries but from everywhere. We may be the best nation in the world but we do have our flaws. It's like when you're a kid, and you ask can a friend stay over, and your parents say it's not a good weekend. Maybe the house is dirty. Maybe there are family matters going on. Maybe, simply, it's just not a good time to entertain. We need to clean our own backyards, scoop up all the dogshyt, mop our own kitchens, vacuum our own carpets, pay somr overdue bills, before we worry about inviting over guest. Let alone, taking in borders. For example, maybe we stop taking in foreign students into our University system. Do you realize how many east asians, indians, and middle easterns make up our college campuses? Maybe we close our borders to them while also working on closing the education gap. Do you realize how many of our doctors, our engineers, are foreign born or first generation. We're so busy fighting these imaginary white vs. black, liberal vs. conservative battles that we don't even see the writing on the wall. And don't think for a minute that our politicians care. Not even the right-wing America first politicians. All they see is green. They couldn't care less about if your pension will be worth a damn when it's time to collect it or if your kid is gonna go to college. These political parties have us fighting over which one cares about us and neither does. They only care about the rich. And i'm not just talking about those who are well off. I'm well off. Many of us in this forum are well off. I'm talking the uber rich. All you #MAGA folks, Donald Trump cares more about Hillary Clinton than he does you. Believe it. And all you bleeding heart liberals, the inverse of that is true as well. Hillary cares more about the Don, and rich people like him, than she does you. Remember.... They live. We sleep.

Halting legal immigration until the U.S. gets its house cleaned up?  Is that your analogy?  When in the history of this country has it ever had its house in order?  You might as well say you don't want legal immigration PERIOD.  Cause your analogy ain't realistic.  Giving unrealistic terms to reinstate legal immigration is foolish and a waste of thought.

cave0707
cave0707

Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

White supremacy is a paranoid ideology that promotes prejudice, bigotry, violence and conspiracy theories.  They have a history of hate crimes.  For examples, Ku klux klan and nazi extremists are recognized as terrorists by police and FBI.  Modern white supremacists disguise themselves to appear legitimate or mainstream.  They spread the myth that the white majority is under assault by people of color. In Trump era, white supremacists have become more visible and hate crimes are increasing.  For example, Charlottetown violence.  He surrounds himself with white supremacists such as Sessions and Bannon.
Wrong...they have always existed in the same #s...its just that mainstream media are reporting it more to fit their narrative and agenda in their daily attacks on Trump...dont be a sheep or spread your own style of propaganda...everyone knows in America, these incidents like Charlottetown are cyclical and happen every few months...infact, im sure its about that time again for something racist to happen somewhere within the states soon enough...and for sure the media spin will be its all Trumps fault...sadly as well, there will be another school shooting sometime in September, and another X, Y, Z...

Not exactly.  The Southern Poverty Law Center publishes its research and reports the matter to the public.  From what I remember (this was roughly a year ago) it said something like KKK groups are decreasing but white nationalism groups were increasing at a rate that outpaces the decrease in KKK related organizations.  So there's a net increase.  And the biggest increase in white nationalism groups were closely aligned with the new President.  So essentially there is a shift from klan robes and swastikas tattoos to the clean cut polo shirt wearing folks and those numbers are increasing.  

cave0707
cave0707

Yesterday she said, "In some parts of the country it does seem like the America we know and love doesn’t exist anymore. Massive demographic changes have been foisted upon the American people. And they’re changes that none of us ever voted for and most of us don’t like. From Virginia to California, we see stark examples of how radically, in some ways, the country has changed. In some ways, much of this is related to illegal, and in some cases, legal immigration that progressives love."

Can't salvage this broken mind.  The demographics has been changing since the birth of this country.  So what point in time is she referring to?  To the era where she would have been relegated to the kitchen, bedroom and church?  She's not old enough to remember those times.  Sadly these comments resonate with her audience.  

 

 

cave0707
cave0707

Better to be out wishing you were in or vice versa?  He says he wants to take Tesla private via twitter.  Something smells ...

SarasotaSlim
SarasotaSlim

Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

To be in impeachable Democrats must own the house majority.... then have 2/3 of the senate to convict..... I bet that it won’t stick a very safe low risk area.... to trial 50-1 get me hooked for a unit ( 100 ) usd

He'll never get convicted in the Senate but I'll give it a 50/50 chance that the house would at least attempt to impeach ....  especially if the dems win control of the house after the 2018 elections.  Now this bet is just to impeach in the house, correct?  Not to actually convict him too, right?  Damn I'm a bit slow today.

SarasotaSlim
SarasotaSlim

Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

Quote Originally Posted by HockeyTeeth:

Curious...are there odds for not being impeached? Another question, how does Hillary get oval office if Trump impeached? I'm just a dumb Canadian fisherman who played too much hockey before helmets became popular.
Hockey, you aint dumb stop lying...what all these anyone but trumpers fail to realize, if they dump trump they will end up with a man far worse in Pence at the helm with respect to his ideologies, and political savy...the left wouldn't know what hit them once the dust settles on Prez Pence's 6 year reign of terror

Interesting point.  I would also emphasize some Trump initiatives like fair trade in terms of tariffs will probably disappear in a nanosecond.  Trade wars are most definitely not a republican ideology even if many people support this tactic now.  Pence will probably install your standard bread and butter conservative initiatives like ban on gay marriage, increase defense spending, ban abortions (etc,etc) but reengage with our traditional NATO allies especially militarily and will probably do a 180 when it comes to the current U.S.-Russia foreign policy.  But if voters wanted a Pence type President, they had their chance to elect that type of politician through the republican primaries.  So wouldn't the people on the "right" be disappointed also?  Trump seems to be very popular with them.  And do you think Pence could win in 2020?  He's doesn't have Trump's hair or charisma ... I wouldn't be so quick to call it a 6 year reign.

MikeMed
MikeMed

Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

Are Russian tanks rolling up 5th Ave in NYC yet? That's what the dems & media act like on a daily basis. Italy has a larger GDP than Russia.

Yet another thoughtless remark on this forum.  Nobody is worried about Russian military taking over American homes and streets.  What's worrisome is Russia's tendency to use or threaten to use military force to achieve it's foreign policy goals especially when it comes to enforcing/coercing countries near its border or sphere of influence.  In addition they're investing heavily into social media networks and information warfare which have been successful at destabilizing the political culture of our western allies.  Not to mention their successful infiltration of systems/emails of our federal government enabling them to disrupt our 2016 elections.  This is not a republican vs democrat ... liberal vs conservative issue ... this is a serious problem for the United States and other western countries that don't share similar values and beliefs with the Kremlin.  

sundance
sundance

Quote Originally Posted by sundance:

Bombshell: Deep Sate moved $400 million form Russia to Hillary campaign! Stunning amount of money and maneuvering! I was too busy at work to keep with the bombshell statement from Putin. Is Robert Mueller and Rosenstein in shackles yet?

This is completely laughable.  You're referring to what Putin just said about Bill Browder's donation to the Hillary Clinton campaign.  He initially said $400 million was moved from Bill Browder to the Hillary Clinton campaign. Then Putin said he MISSPOKE and that the actual amount was $400,000.  What actually happened was Bill Browder's associates donated $17,700 to the Hillary Clinton campaign and $297,000 to the Democratic National Committee.  Far cry from your original statement.  The real problem is that there are millions of people like sundance that will distribute fake news with reckless abandon and millions more will take it as fact.  Just soaking up fake news through the eyes and ears and dishing it out via mouth and twitter fingers completely bypassing the brain for any reasonable thought process.

Midnight1
Midnight1

Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

Besides being ignorant, what's your problem packers? When you talk from your home in the gutter & resort to attacking my family, how much lower can you go? You have proven to be a POS not only in this thread but every forum you infest.  Back to business... A federal auditor has told the HHS to after 341k spent illegally by former head Tom Price.  He's just typical of the crooks Piggy put in office.
1. I am not ignorant 2. I have no problem. 3. I have a very nice home, and all our gutters are properly maintained in the spring and fall. 4. I like spending quality time once a year with my wife and kids at different Caribbean family orientated all inclusive resort. 5. Once i won a limbo contest because i went lower than anyone else without hitting the bar. 6. I have several Point Of Sale machines as a successful small business owner. 7. My yard was once infested with weeds but I called Jiffy and they sent a lawn maintenance company the very next day. 8. My most sincerest advice to you is "seek professional medical help immediately".

Obviously multiple POS machines is not indicative of a successful business but since you mentioned it, what kind of business do you own?  Just curious.