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Lets not be deceived by home field advantage, overall record and a public thread- the fact is, if you remove tough matchups vs , Miami and a tough East Carolina team that scored late to make a 21-21 game 28-21, Va Tech doesnt lose big, Duke doesnt win big. Sometimes the biggest  The numbers are pretty sharp here, in my opinion, and the right play was a 5 spot on VA tech, all things considered. In fact, if you really have the itch, make a small play on the over and watch this one- this could be a fun game to watch come the 4th quarter... JUST LIKE RVP DID FOR MAN U!!!! this is nothing more than a spectators line!
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....this old chestnut.... glad I didnt touch this earlier in the week... 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rauchy76:


Yet, even with all those decades of experience, you still thought The Golden Gophers stadium was a dome. Hmm. Ok. BOL.

says the D on a Clemson/GT thread... you need to check yourself if you remember total strangers forgetting about a Minnesota dome situation in an ACC thread... someone has a covers stalker problem!! If you read these threads to make a pick, thank you for feeding the books and keeping our great habit on the radar!!. the numbers are a click away... stare at them for enough years and you start to see the redheads and the blondes. OR... you can listen to dippy over here call out people from his covers stalker pearch,
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Quote Originally Posted by AzStealth:

Seems very odd to me that this particular game has seen such a huge change in line movement over the last few days. This game is an afterthought compared to about 90% of the rest of the games today. So, on that note, if everyone and their hillbilly brother is taking Middle TN, then I'm taking BYU at -3.

It was rude to correct spelling that way... I think it is also a little rude to ignore an intelligent approach to handicapping and focus on negligence.

Lets hve conflict with logic and see if you handle it like a "dummy"-

 Not only does your translation on steam show you didn't really cap this game, it also shows that you are just talking- there is no relevance or correlation to this match up- you are just regurgitating semantics- translated- you don't know garbage about these two teams.

And the person who familiarizes with you, the one with bad spelling, regurgitated what you said because he could relate--- because he, too, has no idea about these teams, aside from hearing about BYU more than Mid Tenn... you can clearly see that through his attempt at capping- "better atheletes and tradition".... translation- I have no idea about BYUs injury report, let alone what I am talking about...

the more focused capping on this thread is to Llana Franks... regardless who wins, atleast you can see she knows the deal with BYU... Hell the guy I quoted said "no one is paying attention to this game..." hey, silly--- you are supposed to be talking to people who pay attention to EVERY game... If my bet isn't capped, then who gives a darn what everyones looking at, and shame for acting like that's the only way to explain steam!!!

And settle down, Id say it to your face as a friend. Think a little more.

cashaholic
cashaholic

oh had to laugh @ bam bam one more time- the paranoid fool thinks I'm an alias...

wow you definitly DVR doomsday preppers...

Bam bam, when I get back, can you please respond with your nationality so I can have some fun, too?

All this dark meat humor, lets get on to your honky behind now!! It'll be fun! C'mon, southern??? yeah, southern?? ... ok hold on I'll wait for you to get your cousins junk out of your mouth...OK can you answer now, southern???

 

Buddy, you are ramped up right now cause I'm beginning the process, poetically, mind you, of showing everyone the depth of your degenerate breeding pool... and you can sense you are in a s*** talk circle that you are about to get shoved out of... If I were you, I'd act like cash on a losing streak... dont respond for a few days buddy

cashaholic
cashaholic

I always liked this one, too, Getty...

Yo cash, youre a smart guy, I had a big decision later and need your expert opinion- ICEE or Slurpee?

Now now cash, I'm white, and white people smell like wet dogs to other ethnic pathes.

 

See thats new age racism, its much more subtle and ironic, but we are supposed to act like it doesnt bother us now. Trust me, in the world of racism, you are living the dream buddy... don't worry, one day, white people are gonna get thiers, I mean, we arent gonna go from #1 to #2, ya know, one day, we are gonna pay for all this ish, but for right now, I'll have me some more white, please!!

 

Take it easy, cash, and bam bam becomes funny to look at. Thats the easiest way to fight racism... fight it when its real, like your ancestors... now stop embarassing them by being a giant vag. OK OK 15 min here is too much, really- ish to do- cant wait to check back in the AM haha

cashaholic
cashaholic
[Quote: Originally Posted by Getty3] I like you Cashaholic. Now that we have that out of the way, help me out ;

I have a bet pending on your answer :
Do you :
A) Work at your uncle's convenience store
B) Clean the lobby at your father's motel
C) Cook at the IHOP
D) or take customer service calls for Dell computers ?

Thanks. I have money riding on your response. 

[/Quot

 

  someone teach the sensitive one irony, and someone teach bam bam bigalo how to wipe his behind, thats how you make the world a better place!

cashaholic
cashaholic

wow. if only I could take all the random out of random things and somehow stumble upon a thread like this every morning to get the day going...

 Hell, I'm off of losing 10+ units last night,  had that hang-over going this morning, but  2 eggs over-easy, wheat toast, cup of coffee, and reading this and realizing I'm not either of you, I'm chip-chop-chipper and ready to go watch some soccer and golf investments-

thanks douches!!

Classof78
Classof78
HAHAHA- Cheating???... so, I guess if, tomorrow, you could go "Back to The Future 2" and get all the scores for college hoops 2014-15 in a sports almanac, you wouldn't spend the next year saving every last penny you had to clean house come November 2014?? Nah, you would turn it in the the gambling authorities, right? CHEATING hahaha------ If you clowns could get insider information before a fixed game, you would bet on it, FOR SURE, so don't bullshit people around here. These guys snapped off an extra pick on a free contest that gives you one coin flip a day when its all said and done.... holy smokes some of you must be a handful to be near if thats all it takes to cause negative friction... if you ever have to look hard to find people who are narrow-minded, chances are you will find one in the mirror.
Eagles987
Eagles987

my bad, about $3700... point is, instead of opening with just, I AM 45-4, when you imply you want people to follow you, it'd be wise to notify them that you are willing to lay $5k money line bets to chase your losses... at the very least, thats what you ended up doing...

NOW- if you stated all that first, and kept this up for a few weeks, not suffering a heavy fav ML play along the way, it would probably stand 100 fold more legit that your opening claim....

yes, I also ask myself why I am explaining this out loud...

Eagles987
Eagles987

For those of you keeping score at home instead of just trying to sound witty saying the same joke a different way, he ended up over +5 units... but he opened up with a dumb claim, because, like someone said before me, if you don't see this coming, then its on your lack of intellegence when you take offense.

Now, as for your one night sample--- heres why you are REALLY FULL OF garbage- by stating $100 unit play at parlay, you made that your unit. so you have to stick by that unit in your Portland money line for 10 units, or $1000... on a ML bet on a team that was -7.5 (coverrs)...Meaning you would have to lay about$4500 to grab that unit at the end of the night to try and sweep up (before the Portland game, you were looking @ -5.6 units).

I'll take this Colombo garbage one step further- MY GUESS IS you are regurgitating purchased information from a place like Winning With Todays Action, or a capper that suggests large ML plays that take upwards of 40 to 50 units to bet.

You see, Eagle, most people see this... I just took the time to type it out. Sound like a hater? if so, ya need to fix your hearing... facts with a pretty educated guess my friend.

 

HotShotPicks
HotShotPicks

Look, lets set the record straight-

first and foremost, why is J Morrison scum??? BECAUSE 'YOU' 'ARE STUPID, not him. He's just makin a buck off of people he can take advantage of.... I don't know if anyone has taken a look at the forrest in a while, but bookies dont have offices in churches....

Now, how do you know if you are talking to a person with a head on thier shoulders who refuses to use Morrisons stuff because of his moral approach, or some greedy fool who doesnt know how to manage a bankroll??? ITS EASY... if you criticize Morrison without speaking of what he was doing in 2007/8, then you didnt manage your bankroll wisely and you really dont know why YOU SHOULDNT TRUST JOHN MORRISON-

If you don't know, his 'original' system was a 3 game chase where you BUY 3 POINTS on visiting teams that are playing atleast 3 straight games against NON CONFERENCE opponents. (i believe the clean up was to omit any top 2 or bottom 2 conference teams from the system... the other filter was to omit teams with 'star players' injured...)

Well, Laying -170, -180 to buy 3 points is expensive enough, and I, personally, would never chase a point buying system... BUT DISAGREE WITH MANY THAT ALL CHASE SYSTEMS ARE SCAMS.... But here is where Morrison proved to me he isnt worthy of my business...

If you signed up with Morrison in 2007 he offered you a LUCRATIVE SIGNUP BONUS WITH BETUS.COM. Way over the norm. So you had to type in MORRISON as your bonus code to get the bonus... Well, that BONUS CODE did 3 things, 2 of them predictable, one of them THE SHADIEST THING I HAVE SEEN IN REGARDS TO HANDICAPPERS SELLING INFO.

1. You got a 100% matching bonus on whatever you deposited

2. You realize that Morrison is getting an extra $25-$50 as the referral money he was surely getting. Thats fine, though, nothing wrong with that... heres the jacked up part...

3- EVERY TIME YOU SIGNED IN TO BETUS.COM, THE SITE HAD YOU CATEGORIZED AS ONE OF MORRISONS CLIENTS, and, you won't believe this but HE ACTUALLY DID THIS.... Betus.com would drop THE GAMES THAT MORRISON SUGGESTED BY A POINT AND A HALF!!!...... no garbage, right? so if he told you to buy 3 points on the Lakers, and the line was -7, well you would sign on to buy 3 pts and bet something to the sound of $170 to win $100 on the Lakers now -4..... well, good Old John agreed to sell his soul to the devil, so the second you signed in, the Lakers line MOVED UP TO LA LAKERS -8.5.... no crapping you, he sold you to the site, and the site sold you 1.5 points for the price of 3 points. You could put the LALakers game on your screen as signed in and look at it, it would say -8.5... and then click ;log out,' and the same bet would say -7... until you signed in to get it again, it would magically be back to -8.5..

Now, all you have to do is buy Morrisons info and play it @ 5dimes or any other book for that matter, especially crappy BETUs.... but isnt that creepy, that he sold out like that?

Thats why I bring my money to people who aren't trying to take advantage of me and want to have a good rep as opposed to making a quick buck off the next sucker....

So, you see... only suckers complain about Morrison... if you really understand his angle, settled down and tell the story! (ps- my CAPS above were for EMPHASIS and not to yell at you!!!)

Ryanp26
Ryanp26

...heres what I'm missing--- if I do incur loses, when do I DROP MY UNIT DOWN A NOTCH- easy, imo- lets say you lose 2 bet Cs from $4000- I would maintain my $60 until I dip below $2750, or 1.8% of my previous unit or higher. Then its back to the grind.

My stance is simple and obvious. You cannot deny my statistics as mentioned above- NOTHING IS FOOL PROOF IN THIS WORLD THOUGH- the 2 variables are simple- ARE THE BETS I AM MAKING GOING TO HIT @ A 55% WINNING MARGIN??? (keep in mind, people have earned profits with less than 55%, but not over the long haul) AM I FOLLOWING MY BANKROLL MANAGEMENT.

REMEMBER, I have called the afermentioned information 'conservative.' The truly conservative way to run the management I just laid out is to run the unit rates EXACTLY AS DESCRIBED, plus a $5,000 base... I just don't know many people who can open accounts of $9,000 and dont know what I'm already saying... BUT, if you are patient, exponential growth says you can start with a $10 unit and run the same percentages (thats why I tried to include them).

My other piece of advice would be to open a play account for $500- so when you have no action that day but get to jones'in for some, you can make $10-$20 wagers to sooth your sweet tooth without bringing the human condition to your bankroll- LEAVE THE HUMAN CONDITION FOR THE FIELDS, RINKS, COURTS AND DIAMONDS- its the only way to earn some diamonds of your own...

garbage, I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but, hey, I've seen guys getting thumbs up for less around here-

hope the read consumed you with intrigue and left you feeling like you just hit another unit.

-Pfeiff

ONE HOUR DEVOTED TO THE PURSUIT OF TRUTH AND BEAUTY IS WORTH MORE THAN A LIFETIME OF GLORY GIVEN BY THE FRIGHTENED AND WEAK TO THE STRONG

Ryanp26
Ryanp26

KEEP IN MIND, if the information you are getting is faulty, you won't be going up anyway- we are assuming we are getting information that will end up on a 55% win rate when its all said and done if we are going to be making a dime NO MATTER WHAT YOUR ANGLE IS.

now, back to the statistics-

The example I have given you above, (basically a 2% unit that gets raised once the unit is a shade above 1.4% of your bankroll) is AGGRESSIVE to me (patient souls win this race, I believe that to be common knowledge). I would suggest 2 things to remove a little risk- DOUBLE your amount needed to incur a loss yet still be at 2% of your bankroll. So for our above example, that would be $3480+$480, equaling $3960, lets round it one more unit(ish) to $4000, or 1.25% of your $50 unit. Now you can take 2 bet C losses in a row and still be @ 2% of your bankroll with a $60 unit.

Heres where I took it a step further- again, this is 'conservative' (such a hypocritical term in sports betting... unless you are making decent $$... then its more ironic i guess!). GET THE ROLL UP TO 1.25% AND WAIT FOR A BET C LOSS. Once you LOSE A BET C, increase your unit. Thats correct, lose first, raise your unit second. If you havent caught on by now, statistically speaking, it will be very hard to lose 2 bet Cs in a row (again, assuming we are using 55% information), making the BEST time to raise your unit AFTER A LOSS.

Bottom line, you are taking the guess work out, the human error... which is why 'vegas' (haha like its a guy running a switchboard) doesnt care if XXXX XXXXXXX's info is good or not- they don't trust you to manage your bankroll anyway, so they'll take the business across the board! Your responsibility, to counter the books and take your chip off the betting block, is to TAKE HUMAN ERROR OUT OF THE EQUATION.... tell me what I'm missing??....

Ryanp26
Ryanp26

At the very least, you have to PREPARE FOR THE WORST. Look, $2500 to $3000 is only a 10 unit increase, and no one makes quick money doing this... so why would we? Here is how you 'insure' yourself (its called 'gambling' for a reason, there is always a risk). To dampen the risk, we need to exercise patience and remove greed.

Lets face facts, if the information is bad, its not going to work no matter how you manage you bankroll...

But if we just got to $3,000 from $2,500 on a $50 unit, we know we are coming off of a win- you arent going to lose your way to $500 more dollars... REMEMBER SIMPLE STATISTICS- bet C losses are coming at some point, no avoiding it in the long run, and the longer we go without one, the more likely we are to run in to one- simple statistics, my dear Watson.

A bet C wager LOST removes about 7.5 to 8 units, depending on how many hooks are in your mouth from purchasing them on the 3 bets that got you the loss ('buying a hook' is buying a 1/2 pt on a point spread, typically moving the vig from -110 to -120). SO- 8 units x $60= $480.

The semi-conservative approach is to KEEP YOUR UNIT @ $50 until you get to $3480. Now, if you raise your unit to $60 AND LOSE lose a bet C on your first run with the new unit, you are still @ 2% of your bankroll after incurring a bet C loss, leaving you @ $3000, still comfortable to bet a $60. If you lose 2 in a row, you are still in the game with a $2550 bankroll, and back to a $50 unit... (more to come)

Ryanp26
Ryanp26

The following posts are my response to INSERT NAME HERE

WHATS UP INSERT NAME HERE,

I noticed your post was a few months ago, but I hope you read this... you mightve been following the picks, but not the system, def not for 3 years as I've read it and it touches on bankroll management.... botton line is, 2 staight c losses (entirely possible- you see 13 win streaks in streaker contests ALL THE TIME by amatuers, so you have to be prepared for 6 straight losses, or 2 straight c bets lost) shouldnt float you- here is my bankroll management advice-

You need to start with a $2,500 bankroll for a $50 unit, first and foremost, in your particular situation, AND THAT IS AGGRESSIVE- this starts you @ a 2% unit to your bankroll (50 being 2% of $2000... Anyone who has done this for 3 years knows this, by the way ; ) (I, too have made the same mistakes you speak of in earlier years, and I, too, have turned around and explained it the same way you have in the earlier years, so I stand before you with shame in hand)- keep in mind, this is PER SYSTEM AT A TIME. In other words, if you want to run an NBA system AND a NCAA college basketball system, it is SAFE to start with $5000. And this is AGGRESIVE in my opinion (will explain in later posts)

Now, here is where the magic happens--- again, you better be prepared for a 6-10 year plan before you make decent cash from ANY of this stuff, no matter who you buy information from (most long standing services, [link from unapproved source], for example, would take a $40,000 bank for a $50 to be safe, with the potential of 20 unit bets being placed on -500 to -1000 or worse lines, especially halftime lines, and you have to be ready to place mid game bets within 10 min of recieving info)-- I digress, back to the magic--

The most common flaw with bankroll management is- "when do I raise/decrease my unit??" I will give you an AGGRESSIVE approach, as well as a CONSERVATIVE approach WHEN DEALING WITH CHASE SYSTEMS> I believe XXXXX XXXXXXX only chases basketball and football, any and all other advices given are straight bets (baseball, hockey, soccer, NASCAR, MMA, golf, etc).

Since you are focusing on a 3 game chase, or bet C limit, as you stated, we will discuss that approach, as straight betting can be figured out through the explanation I am about to give + logic.

First, lets start with you hypothetical bankroll- $2,500 with a $50 unit. 2% unit bet.

we will look to increase our unit, consistently, by $10 for now, so the next unit goal is a $60 unit. We want to stick with our 2% unit, so we would need to get our bankroll to $3000 to start betting $60, right? WRONG....

(more to come, this is getting long and I don't know if there is limited space)....

Ryanp26
Ryanp26

 

Original post from INSERT NAME HERE was titled- WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR SYSTEM, XXXX? (note from editor- its not Morrison, give me a little credit)

INSERT NAME HERE---Anybody who bets the XXXX XXXXXXX system knows what I'm talking about! darn! This is the sixth loss in a row! 2nd c play what the darn? I have been following this system for 3 years and never seen anything like this 6 losses!I'm fuckin busted!

All I can say good things come to an end! Freakin system will hit tomorrow guarantee! Funny thing, I lost everything!

 

NOTE FROM EDITOR- the following posts are my response...

Ryanp26
Ryanp26

Hello all- I have read some good posts on how to get your feet off the ground lately.

I also read a complaint that spurred on 4 notes of my own as advice to someone who was struggling, as demonstrated by thier post- I will leave them anonymous, but I want to set the table on this thing for you before we get going,

well 2 tables-

THE ADULT TABLE- the following information is MY OPINION AND EXPERIENCE on how to PATIENTLY grow a bankroll, mostly off of PURCHASED INFORMATION, and advice I gave in the topic and forum of purchased information from a professional handicapper-- sorry, I have a job that I love, and it takes up some time... In 15 years, I would like to earn primarily on handicapping, and I started that journey exactly one year ago today, X-mas... and things are ahead of schedule...

THE KIDDIE TABLE- Please oh please speak with intellegence and don't assume I AM AN IDIOT if you don't agree with what I am saying- I can promise you, I'm not a famous capper, and I'm not rich... but I'd like to be the later one day, and I don't care about the first part... I have included as many STATISTICS as possible to describe MY OPINION of money management FOR A SORE INDIVIDUALS PARTICULAR POST, AND I AM PASTING IT WITHOUT EDITTING MUCH- if it gets lost in translation, either ask me what I mean, or its on you. I will say, the original post was easy to see through, it was pretty faulty in terms of plausability, but it spurred me to put my approach to paper, and I'd like to share it with you- I HAVE REMOVED THE NAMES OF HANDICAPPERS DISCUSSED with xxxx xxxxxx so you don't tell me I'm advertising for anyone... some people already have their whistles in their mouthes when they sign on, so I did the xxx xxxxx for 'the people'.... ("vote for me ya'll, vote for me ya'll, I'll set ya free!" -Shootyz Groove)

ENOUGH- on to the good stuff... PLEASE SHARE YOUR INPUT, even crappy information is worth looking in to a potential fade on the idea... isnt that the beauty of this?? (for newbies, google 'fading in sports betting' if that didnt make sense..... Remember, this is cut and paste, first the original post from INSERT NAME HERE, then my responses...

thebird40
thebird40

...heres what I'm missing--- if I do incur loses, when do I DROP MY UNIT DOWN A NOTCH- easy, imo- lets say you lose 2 bet Cs from $4000- I would maintain my $60 until I dip below $2750, or 1.8% of my previous unit or higher. Then its back to the grind.

My stance is simple and obvious. You cannot deny my statistics as mentioned above- NOTHING IS FOOL PROOF IN THIS WORLD THOUGH- the 2 variables are simple- ARE THE BETS I AM MAKING GOING TO HIT @ A 55% WINNING MARGIN??? (keep in mind, people have earned profits with less than 55%, but not over the long haul) AM I FOLLOWING MY BANKROLL MANAGEMENT.

REMEMBER, I have called the afermentioned information 'conservative.' The truly conservative way to run the management I just laid out is to run the unit rates EXACTLY AS DESCRIBED, plus a $5,000 base... I just don't know many people who can open accounts of $9,000 and dont know what I'm already saying... BUT, if you are patient, exponential growth says you can start with a $10 unit and run the same percentages (thats why I tried to include them).

My other piece of advice would be to open a play account for $500- so when you have no action that day but get to jones'in for some, you can make $10-$20 wagers to sooth your sweet tooth without bringing the human condition to your bankroll- LEAVE THE HUMAN CONDITION FOR THE FIELDS, RINKS, COURTS AND DIAMONDS- its the only way to earn some diamonds of your own...

garbage, I'm not trying to pat myself on the back, but, hey, I've seen guys getting thumbs up for less around here-

hope the read consumed you with intrigue and left you feeling like you just hit another unit.

-Pfeiff

thebird40
thebird40

KEEP IN MIND, if the information you are getting is faulty, you won't be going up anyway- we are assuming we are getting information that will end up on a 55% win rate when its all said and done if we are going to be making a dime NO MATTER WHAT YOUR ANGLE IS.

now, back to the statistics-

The example I have given you above, (basically a 2% unit that gets raised once the unit is a shade above 1.4% of your bankroll) is AGGRESSIVE to me (patient souls win this race, I believe that to be common knowledge). I would suggest 2 things to remove a little risk- DOUBLE your amount needed to incur a loss yet still be at 2% of your bankroll. So for our above example, that would be $3480+$480, equaling $3960, lets round it one more unit(ish) to $4000, or 1.25% of your $50 unit. Now you can take 2 bet C losses in a row and still be @ 2% of your bankroll with a $60 unit.

Heres where I took it a step further- again, this is 'conservative' (such a hypocritical term in sports betting... unless you are making decent $$... then its more ironic i guess!). GET THE ROLL UP TO 1.25% AND WAIT FOR A BET C LOSS. Once you LOSE A BET C, increase your unit. Thats correct, lose first, raise your unit second. If you havent caught on by now, statistically speaking, it will be very hard to lose 2 bet Cs in a row (again, assuming we are using 55% information), making the BEST time to raise your unit AFTER A LOSS.

Bottom line, you are taking the guess work out, the human error... which is why 'vegas' (haha like its a guy) doesnt care if Rich Allens info is good or not- they don't trust you to manage your roll anyway, so they'll take the business across the board! Its late and I started rushing, but, again, if you are getting good information.... tell me what I'm missing??....

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