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MoneyMotive
MoneyMotive
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Lucky, your assessment of Ausmas is spot on. He is an idiot. However, today wasn't his bad managing. There is nothing wrong with rolling with VMart. He also beat out the throw. Instant replay blew it. Lobstein was doing okay and only needed one more out.
Ausmas is normally guilty of pulling pitchers too early, so this is a step up.
He also made a great call on the squeeze play.
I don't care for Ausmas at all (put mildly), but tonight wasn't really all his fault.
This time anyway...
lucky808
lucky808
Quote Originally Posted by hockeytown71:

VMart was called out at
1st and was pretty clearly safe (looked safe in real time). Tigers challenged and umpires stuck with the call. They blew the replay. He was clearly safe.That probably killed an 8th inning rally.I hate when they blow replay. How does that happen? He was clearly safe. Watch the highlights and see what you think.

Would've had runners on 1st and 3rd with 1 out and JD up. Fly ball ties the game. Instead, runner on 3rd and 2 out.
lucky808
lucky808
VMart was called out at 1st and was pretty clearly safe (looked safe in real time). Tigers challenged and umpires stuck with the call. They blew the replay. He was clearly safe.
That probably killed an 8th inning rally.

I hate when they blow replay. How does that happen? He was clearly safe. Watch the highlights and see what you think.
MidgitInBikini
MidgitInBikini
Quote Originally Posted by sean2114:

Quote Originally Posted by dmsr320:


Red Wings win series...Abdelkader is back...huge difference
Your joking right? Mrazek has been and will be the difference period.


Looks like Ericsson might be the difference! How do you let that happen twice in a minute? You would think after the first mistake, you might be on your toes. Nope, not this guy!
MidgitInBikini
MidgitInBikini
Quote Originally Posted by sean2114:

Quote Originally Posted by dmsr320:


Red Wings win series...Abdelkader is back...huge difference
Your joking right? Mrazek has been and will be the difference period.


Looks like Ericsson might be the difference! How do you let that happen twice in a minute? You would think after the first mistake, you might be on your toes. Nope, not this guy!
Lippsman
Lippsman
Been a long time!

Det/Avs Over 5.5

GLTA
Crashdavis565
Crashdavis565
I'm on the Over 38.5
Crashdavis565
Crashdavis565
Two turnovers and ohio is still up and getting the ball back. Meyer is making this Oregon coach look foolish.
I will say that was probably the worst half of football Oregon has played all year .
mp5070
mp5070
Quote Originally Posted by bk1374:

From the moment he caught the ball he was stumbling to the ground, in which case he must maintain possession.  He did not, the ball hit the ground during that process, therefore it should be an incomplete pass.  Yes he might have moving his legs, but while doing that he was still falling to the ground the entire time. 

How is this so hard to understand??
What most of us saw as stumbling and falling to the ground, some saw as "took 3 steps and dove".
Some see what they want to see, others see the facts. Most of us get it. Those that don't , never will. 

richig761
richig761
Quote Originally Posted by ceveche88:

It seems like common sense is being replaced by being over the top literal with interpreting the rules. Dude caught the ball. Stop over analyzing it. This is the kind of stuff that makes the game harder and harder to watch.

Agreed! I cringe every time I see this  "through the process" crap. However, they have been making this call consistently for a while now. Don't like it, get rid of the rule (I'm not saying that is a bad idea either ).
At least they have been consistent. It is what it is, a bad rule.
I get it. When it happened to Calvin the first time ( it's happened a few times to him), it cost the Lions the game . I was pissed, thought it was BS. Calvin's was much worse I might add as he was getting up when he lost control. I get that the rule sucks, but this is nothing new anymore. It was incomplete 3 years ago, it was incomplete last year, it was incomplete this year, and IT WAS INCOMPLETE TODAY.

Don't girl about the call, girl about the rule. By no means am I directing that at you ceveche, just in general to anyone bitching about today's play.
For now, it WAS the right call.
richig761
richig761
I have seen this called more than enough times. This was not a catch. To save the exhaustive effort, you just keep believing it's a catch and stay in your reality. 
I live in Dallas. This is just like last week.... 
You're right and the other 99% across the country got it wrong.
mp5070
mp5070
Quote Originally Posted by stevopa:

It's become officially comical, now, and I wish you the best of luck in trying to explain to these guys the rule, which I have cited and explained.  The referee determined that he wasn't "a runner" or made a "football" move, but somehow Budwiser you cannot understand this. Because you believe it doesn't make it the truth!
Some people don't want to hear the facts. They only want to hear what they want to hear. Anything else is BS and if you don't agree , then you don't know WTF you're talking about .
You laid it out clearly. However, it is just not what they want to hear.

So last week, they got it right. However, this week the Cowboys got screwed ???? Please, so last week the refs got it right. This week, they got it wrong??? That says it all.

The rule clearly states that was not a catch BTW.
richig761
richig761
Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:


Look, I understand you Eagles fans live vicariously through Cowboys' losses, but help is on the way. Chip will be trading the 2015-2024 first round picks to acquire his adopted child, so all will be well.

Anyway, if you find the play to be "100% not a catch," which (again) is the standard required with "indisputable video evidence," then that is certainly your prerogative. We're talking about a burden of proof higher than that required to convict someone of a crime. Seems like a tough argument, but to each his own. 


I was 100% POSITIVE that it was not a catch the second I saw the replay. The league has been making this very same ruling for the last 3 years. They have been consistent making the call too. 
For me the question was more of "after last week, will they make the call". It wasn't a matter of if it was the right call, it was a matter of if they have the balls to make the correct call (IMO).

I have to say, how ironic is it that Cowboy fans are in the position they are in after last week. The shoe is literally on the other foot. 
....and they are not handling it too well.

thorne2265
thorne2265
I had Dallas +7(bought the pt), so I'm happy.
However, as soon as I saw the replay, I KNEW that was not a catch (by the rule ). My thought was "obviously incomplete, BUT will they reverse the call on Dallas".
I've seen that ruling more than enough to know how it works. The reversal was absolutely the right call by the rule. The problem is the rule sucks.

Again, not a catch "by the rule"
DreamKillas
DreamKillas
I do think that all the top seeds advance in the NFL. I also like the Ducks to cover.
However, I would play them all individually in case you have 1 upset (which is likely).

The Champ games tend to always be close. I would look at the parlay with money lines.

Just my opinion.

Good Luck!
Betbychoice
Betbychoice
I think Rodgers is fine and his injury is not all that bad. He played pretty well vs Detroit, who has a defense that is MUCH better than Dallas. I look for Rodgers to light up that secondary.
That "being carted off" vs Detroit seemed a bit much IMO. They showed him in the tunnel doing calf raises. If he can do that, he can play. That Detroit game was a long time ago. If anything, GB may be toying with Dallas.
Rodgers will be fine and very close to 100%. Besides, he will not have to scramble too much vs Dallas either.
Hand off to Lacy....drop back, play catch with Jordy (Randall).

RODGERS IS FINE  

I think he carves up Dallas. I also think Lacy runs for 120-150
obravo21
obravo21
That is supposed to be an automatic unsportsmanlike conduct (at least I thought). 

Tom Jackson (ESPN) made mention of it. He also said it was an obvious PI. When you add on the obvious 15yd pen for Dez, Detroit should've had the ball 1st and 10 on about the 13-14 yd line.
Jackson and Jaworski broke it all down and were in disbelief and "questioning" the reversal.

Pretty much everyone is on the same page with exception to Irvin. However, would you expect anything less? Even Primetime questioned it.
CAPT-DOUCHE
CAPT-DOUCHE
I've never seen a ref make a call, announce the call, then pick up the flag with no explanation.
cbuc
cbuc
Not sure if I've ever seen that before
SiuLungBao
SiuLungBao
Dallas is more $$$ for the NFL. Pretty hard to not think something is up when you see things like this.