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I actually enjoyed the course, fan experience not so much. Way too hot (need fake trees or some sort of shade for viewing around/near greens and fairways). Thus, main reason why the "galleries" looked so small. When you get bumped to the Golf Channel because of time, and have to share the channel with LPGA playoff, says everything you need to know about the prestige of the Byron. Need to get rid of the dirt cart paths (concrete or crushed gravel), with the rain too much mud. When dry, too much dust. From an aerial point of view, which CBS constantly showed, the course did not have a deep, rich green look. Too many brown out areas. Not sure if young course or if by design. Scoring was way too low, need better or tougher pin placement when the wind is low. More sand dunes, especially around 18. Seems players strategy was to aim for the pin...at worse, you roll past the green into the stands. Free drop and move on. Lack of party atmosphere (like along the houses at TPC LC) deems enthusiasm for younger fans. Poor parking / uber pickup/drop points. Without a ticket to the hospitality tents, it would be a boring event if you are not a golf fan. Considering all the things they need to fix, the cost associated with it, and the fact the tournament's contract is only for another 3 years (through 2021). This will turn into the worse investment ($60m plus) for the City and for South Dallas. City of Dallas needs to reach an agreement to extend the contract by at least 7 years. Invest in more permanent structures, paved walk ways for the fans, more shade, and better parking/pick up points. Without such a commitment, this will be a public golf course in a few years. And I look forward to playing it...
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Broncodevil | 5 |
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One tip for the handicappers: Hunter Mahan Along with Spieth, Romo, and Staubach...Hunter is a member at the course. So he should have some value. This is a quote from him: Hunter Mahan likely has more experience than any other player in the field this week — he's a member, estimates he's rounded Trinity Forest nearly 70 times, and said he expects the course will be "an incredible venue" for the event. If the wind is down, he said fans should expect plenty of birdies, given reachable par 5s and at least one drivable par 4. Mahan expects the course itself will be enough to convert players. "I think the player's opinions are probably — I don't know really what they are right now but I think throughout the week they're going to understand it more and more and are going to like it more and more." |
texaschaos | 9 |
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I walked the entire course, thoroughly enjoyed it. Except the Sun. Though they have plenty of places to get out of the sun, There. IS. NO. SHADE. None. If you are wanting to stand along the fairway or around the greens...bring an umbrella. Yes the course has trees to the south and west, but no access for fans. If you are lucky, as such at the 8th hole, they have covered seating for the public (a grand total of 4 for the entire course). This is actually a fun hole, short distance, so those with a good wedge (100 yards or so, 9 iron for the rest of us) will be able to get it close to the hole. The green is very interesting, lots of slopes away from the center of the green (if the pin is in the middle, the green looks concave). If you hit it over the green, have no clue what happens. Cannot see the back side of the green. Can see some sand traps...other than that dunno. You can see the tops of the tree line...then straight down 20 feet. You will see a lot of birdies (or aces....Lexus should have a car there for the first ace...good advertisement, but they don't) or see a lot of pros scrambling for par. Either or, no in between. Other good holes will be the 17th (par 3), 18th (par 4), or the middle of the fairway for the 14th (par 5, 630 yards...uphill, then down hill, then dog right...the second shot for the pros will be interesting). If you get the chance, try to score some tickets to the 360 hospitality tent. Excellent views all around...thus 360. |
texaschaos | 9 |
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Went to the Wed pro am and one odd thing stood out to me: I was eye level to the trinity forest that is to the south of the course. Then I remembered an article about how they had to use a lot of dirt to make the hills (contour) for the course. The course is about 30-40 ft above ground level (the landfill level). Which means the course is essentially sitting on a hill, above the tree line. Which means if the winds kick up.... good luck. Especially if the wind is out of the south. Wind forecast: Thursday is light, Friday up to 20m gust, Saturday 25m gust, Sunday relatively light. Here is a quote from Adam Scott about the course and wind: "The greens were a little quick yesterday in the wind. I mean they're quite severe, some of the slopes on the green, and if they get too fast I think it's going to be a little hard to control anything running up on to the green, you know, kind of needs to find that good balance point of challenging and fair," he said. "I think probably if I was setting the course up the first two days I'd be fairly generous with pin placements and then maybe have at it on the weekend." Handicap accordingly.... |
texaschaos | 9 |
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Some notes about the Byron Nelson Tournament this week. Notably, the venue change. Previously held at the TPC Las Colinas the new venue is in South Dallas at the new Trinity Forest Golf Course. Some interesting facts about the new course: 1) The course was built on a former landfill site. Therefore, it has no trees....it has no water. It is a links style course. So prior tournament history will not be meaningful. 2) The course is laid out predominantly east to west. The winds will be out of the south at about 10-15 mph. And unseasonal warm – temperatures forecast to be almost 100 degrees on Friday. Normal highs this time of year is about 85 degrees. 3) Holes 3 and 11 will share the same green. At 36,000 sq ft, the green is about the size of a football field (well, it is Texas….). Said to be the largest green in North America. 4) Hole 8 is rather short, a 140 yard par 3. And they will reallllly need to stretch it out to get to 140. I suspect it will play shorter. Good luck and handicap like a winner. |
texaschaos | 9 |
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Great season in the supercontest, 53-30-2! Congrats!
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Roggs05 | 917 |
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Quote Originally Posted by garbagetime: So, second halves are 4-3, I believe. And first halves are 2-5? He would not bet the 2nd half on game 2 and 6. So 5 bets on 2nd half, 3-2 so far. |
Roggs05 | 917 |
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bodio | 97 |
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To Zoot and the Wifey!
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YouMeWeWin | 388 |
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Come on IRISH kicker, get it done!
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YouMeWeWin | 388 |
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BTW Zoot, does she have a name?
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YouMeWeWin | 388 |
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Why do I see a FG coming?
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YouMeWeWin | 388 |
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I was thinking the same think ABooks, and yes ESPN has pretty much jumped the shark for me.
They are pretty much worthless right now. |
texaschaos | 6 |
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I cannot find this anymore... like the canceled it. WTH?
Did I miss something? |
texaschaos | 6 |
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Rocking start
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handikapper1 | 116 |
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Brewers 7
Twins 3 hits 19 SO 10 |
Lou | 70 |
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Good luck today phil
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pittsburghphil | 8 |
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Nice job pitt, way to break a cold spell.
Wins in the 2, 3 and 4 pays over $385 at AP. And still 4 bets to go. Cold spell, what cold spell. |
pittsburghphil | 6 |
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Whoops, just read you went for the tri and not the exa
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pittsburghphil | 6 |
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Off to a good start at meadowlands
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pittsburghphil | 6 |
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