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texans are a good team in a bad spot. the fact that their most important opponent they will face during the season, titans, will be the following week makes the spot even worse. do not forget how many players have lingering injuries: arian foster, demco ryans, mike brisiel. i still think houston will win that division and take down the titans, but they are in trouble this week. the raiders have a very physical defensive line and the houston O line battled them hard for 4 quarters. now they have match that physical play again, on the road, vs a team that rotates on their deep, front 7 seven constantly.
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xianshino | 33 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05: how do the texans match up well vs the ravens? the interior O line of the ravens will plow that mediocre nose tackle shaun cody. the houston O line is damn good at run blocking but they are playing on the road vs a rested Elite front 7 dude. matt shaub cannot perform when he is pressured. and you are going to tell me a third round rookie with hardly any playing time will step in and perform like mario williams? ... vs a very good pass protector in mckinnie? and what happens to that houston secondary when the wade phillips blitz doesnt get to flacco....toast did you see the dallas defense last year led by wade phillips get toasted when opposing O lines identified the blitzes? Wake up!!!
I know sports better then you. Ravens are not blowing the Texans out..The Texans are for real and no way they roll over on the Ravens. The same Ravens who were 6 point favourites against the Titans and lost SU! The Texans match up well against the Ravens, even with their injuries. Plus 7.5 is the right side to be on..Wait and see.. |
xianshino | 33 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Dreamgiver: what did mason do when he was on the jets 2 weeks ago and played his former team? NOTHING as will be the case sunday
I agree Aalon, that is what I'm thinking. Plus the fact that Mason is now going to the Texans will help. Not only is he a fair WR, he practiced against the Ravens CB's last year every day in practice. I think he will play well in his first game as a Texan. |
xianshino | 33 |
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lee evans already practicing on wednesday, you know he's going to play. with torrey smith having the breakout in st louis and gaining his confidence, we finally will see the ravens vertical pass threat that we've been waiting for since august. and matt shaub is a little banged up too? haha this game only gets better the more you cap it. i see a 31-17 game
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Werker | 61 |
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this is a horrible spot for the texans. they play at the titans the following week and they know that this division comes down to how they play the titans, total look ahead situaion. you are completely wrong with the bye week being bad for the ravens. they were a banged up team after week 1 that absolutely needed the bye at that time. look at the last few seasons and see what the ravens do to teams after their bye. i haven not even gone into the texans injuries. +8 1/2 is not enough, sorry
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xianshino | 33 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Werker: i agree. i think evans will play limited snaps to throw off the secondary when ravens line up 3 wide.
This is from rotoworld about Lee Evans:
Lee Evans (ankle) was noncommittal Monday about his Week 6 status, but does say his ankle is feeling "much better" after the Ravens' Week 5 bye.
Evans was able to run routes, do sprints, and practice "more extensively" Monday than he has in awhile. "It feels better but tomorrow might be a different story," he conceded. "I think we're on the right path. The goal is to play without being hampered." In fantasy, Evans will have to show he can play a full game before being worth a WR3 start. The Ravens host the Texans in Week 6.
It'll definitely be interesting to see how they use two vertical threats with Flacco's big arm.
I just don't think their pass rush gets past not having Williams there. The only other Texans player who would be at all scary for Flacco is Antonio Smith, but a very average unit can handle a pass rush with him as their best guy. Flacco should have all the time in the world. And Rice should either have a lot of easy underneath passes because they feel the need to blitz or plenty of running room when they are forced into nickel packages. |
Werker | 61 |
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i contributed to this thread when it started in august and will continue to throughout this season as this complete douchebag will prove me right, time after time. eli is a fuckin joke!
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CubbyCapper | 174 |
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rob ryan shut down brady last season with the browns defense and now has a better personnel to work with. his brother just got a look up close of what that pats offense is doing and you dont think these 2 fat boys are discussing this shit right now on the phone? the pats front 7 poses 0 threat on the dallas O line, who have been surprisingly good in pass protection despite having so many young guys. the only ? i have is will the dallas run offense start to produce in this game? im really liking the +7 right now and i thought the line would be higher.
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beantownforlife | 11 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Werker: no bro, keep breaking it down. you seem to see this playing out the same exact way i do in terms of the ravens offensive production. have you heard any updates on weather lee evans will be back for this game? he he's back and flacco has 2 vertical threats to complement boldin, then this offense start to become deadly. i see the ravens O line physically dominating this game, especially when you have a very mediocre nose tackle in the texans cody.
I guess I'm not the only one who loves the Ravens, as they're already at 7.5 (or higher) pretty much everywhere. I'd consider middling, but honestly, I think the most likely scenario is that the Ravens blow them out. The Texans are down two of their most important players this week (one for the season). Schaub did impress me in his performance this past week while without Andre Johnson, but the Raiders are MUCH worse on defense than the Ravens. I don't think he'll have nearly the same success this week. Foster is a scary dude, but without Andre to stretch the field, I'd be pretty surprised if the Ravens don't stack the box against him. They have been pretty vulnerable to the power run game, but don't let up big plays at all on the ground. Only one run has gone for more than 16 yards this year (23 yards), and they've got a ridiculous ypc rate of 3.2. Point is, sure Foster looked like his old self last week, but he's going to have to seriously work for his yardage. And I could see the Texans in a lot of 3rd and 4-6 situations. They will have serious trouble on all of them.
On the other side of the ball, they just lost their best defensive player in Mario Williams and I don't think they'll have much success pressuring Flacco, who can be REALLY good when given time. And I don't see them having much success stopping Rice, who is the motor that makes this offensive go. The Texans LB corps is just not that good when you get past Williams, and they've already been allowing 4.8 ypc! Rice could be in for a VERY big day. Very excited to see what he'll do for my fantasy teams. The Houston CBs are pretty solid, but the Ravens have no problems throwing underneath. If they line up with Evans and Smith split out across from each other, and Boldin in the slot, you could send Evans and Smith on go routes (who are both legit enough options to warrant serious coverage), the whole underneath area will be wide open for Boldin or Rice (or Dickson). I just don't see how the Texans can stop them without getting serious pressure on Flacco. And I don't see how they get pressure on Flacco.
This should be a blow out. If I didn't already have them at 6.5, I'd take them at 7 or even 7.5. By far my favorite play of the week.
Sorry if I meandered a bit in my thoughts. I'd love to discuss further if you disagree or have something to add. |
Werker | 61 |
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the volume of bets for the chargers game is a lot lower than the other games sunday so dont get intimidated by the 1 sided action on sd. bettors have backed off betting sd after they have started this season 1-3 ATS. it the right time to play them
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Krans | 15 |
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with you on the chargers. i see a lot of guys here taking the broncos with the points and i think they are getting too caught up with the trends and road divisional game factor. they are failing to break down the matchups in this game. i also think they are getting too caught up with the injuries to gates and v jax and failing to realize the ability of rivers to spread the ball around that offense. chargers win this by 10
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pirates11 | 26 |
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chargers win this by 10 denver blows and the crowd will be chanting tebow by halftime |
Covers | 27 |
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Quote Originally Posted by CappingBros: i will unload on SD. your system has a glitch in it and your better repair it!!!
Yes Denver. Please unload on San Diego if you like them so much. |
CappingBros | 13 |
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this is a minor problem to have when they are one of the few legit offshore books left. everyone else is getting shut down so quit teasing games anyway and start betting with confidence on straight plays. if anything, buy a couple points with extra juice if you dont like a line such as -3 1/2 or -10 1/2.
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escapeNihilism | 14 |
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how is dumervil healthy? he just returned to action last week after missing 2 games and was barely ready for week 1 after being limited late in camp. even he admitted that he is not at game shape yet and his coaches said he looked rusty last week. he only registered 1 hit and 2 pressures last week vs a weak packer O line in terms of pass protection. down the road this season he will get healthy and denver will have a good pass rush with von miller on the other side, but not this week. that less than 100% stable shoulder is limiting his ability to create leverage and work inside on lineman. take a look at this sunday when he will not get past marcus mcneil. |
supernate12 | 40 |
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how is the whole world on sd when that game has a much lower volume of bets than other sunday games? go ahead and bet the broncos dumbass
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zooker | 4 |
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Quote Originally Posted by swolesbee: how are the broncos good at stopping the run when they give up 150 yards to mcfadden and then 4.8 ypc to starks last week? oh,ya they play the 32nd run offense in the titans and thats how they are good. champ bailey is back,big fuckin deal. he played last year when rivers threw 4 TDS on that secondary, without gates and without v jax. dumervil will be going 1 on 1 with marcus mcneil, equal matchup there. not really concerned about dj williams or thomas to be honest. i would bemore concerned as a bronco bettor with the possibility of both starting bronco safeties being out and having 0 depth after a goodman, who has been struggling in coverage BTW
Your right it is a new season... so then why do your previous ats stats matter? Denver is good at stopping the run...which is surprising given their injuries. Champ Bailey will be back. Marcus Thomas will be back. Dumervil is healthy. DJ williams is healthy. Division game at home. If Denver wins this game they are right back in the hunt. Rivers throws the ball to everyone on the field every game...including the other team. Gates is out, Jackson is banged up but will probably play. Floyd is hurt. He has been a statue the last couple games-no mobility. Bad spot for the chargers in my opinion. Maybe they win at home later when everyone is healthy, but not this Sunday. |
supernate12 | 40 |
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Quote Originally Posted by raems: ok, let me DESCRIBE to you how this is not a bad bet and actually a great bet. SD is 7-0 ATS last 7 @ denver. why is everyone constantly referring to chargers of 2010. this is a new season. i can easily refer back to 2009, where they were 13-3. to say SD is is a 50/50 at best bet tells me that you did absolutely no handicapping on the matchup of this game and probably got the opinion of chris berman while eating your cheerios this morning and thinking you know this game.
The Chargers as a road favorite in a division game is such an idescribably bad bet. The moneyline, let alone the spread, is a 50/50 proposition at best for SD this week. |
supernate12 | 40 |
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Quote Originally Posted by badlands: what about those games? ravens at titans after their mini superbowl beating the steelers. they come out flat. you didnt see that coming? jets at raiders playing a fierce d line without their center. what is your point? titans have played good ball and raiders looking improved. broncos still suck. laugh at my not so bold statement because its true and i'll laugh at your broke ass betting denver sunday
lol to the bold. and the pats at oakland, and ravens are baltimore arent division games. big difference. and you mention the ravens at the rams...how about the ravens at tennessee the week before? and you mention oakland against the pats..how about oakland against the jets the week before? |
supernate12 | 40 |
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dont overthink the line. its low because of the injuries to the chargers. the line is identical to the pats @ raiders last week and the ravens @ rams 2 weeks ago. people thought they were trap games and look what happened. chargers are 4-0 ATS last 4 @ denver. broncos O line sucks, their turnover margin sucks, their pass D sucks, and their QB racks up yards between the 20s and fails to produce in the red zone. denver is arguably the worst team in the nfl.
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supernate12 | 40 |
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