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Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002:
More dumb stuff from the Thunder GM, he wants to send chris paul to miami, but will also give the Heat 2 picks to likely take him. So what this means is that Russ got traded for heat players. Paul and 2 picks for likely goran and olynk. so OKC gets them for everything the rockets sent them. But the thunder wouldnt accept winslow, goran and picks? This makes no sense There are a few aspects in the trade: (1) For most of the teams, absorbing Westbrook's large contract is going to bump the total team payroll quite a lot. A team may be reluctant to pull off such a trade if it does not make them a serious contender. (2) Westbrook's contract has a 15% trade kicker. If OKC sends him to a team that he does not want to go to, then OKC needs to pay him 15% of his remaining contract. On the other hand, if Westbrook accepts the trade, the kicker can be negotiated and voided like in this one with the Rockets. (3) Westbrook is OKC's franchise player, so they might also incline to respect his will in such a farewell trade. (4) The CP3 to MIA trade is still under discussion and it would be better to comment on that after the deal is finalized and details are revealed. The media rumors -- especially on the details of the trade -- at this stage can't really be trusted. Even if there are 2 picks involved, you still need to see which teams and years the picks come from, whether they are first-rounders or second-rounders, and how the picks are protected. Not all picks have the same value. |
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Quote Originally Posted by Phillip2002:
As a Miami Heat fan, wtf, biggest tease ever I dont even like Russ that much as a player but hearing all this news about a star to pair with jimmy was truly exciting. I did have a strong feeling it wouldn't happen because I knew team could offer so so much better then Justice Winslow, Goran Dragic and Dion Waiters, but Chris Paul?!?!?!?!? Thats whats pissing me off, they did it for paul and 2 picks miami wouldve gave anyway. worst nba contract ever and thunder take him over young assets from teams like the suns, heat and pistons... wow im pissed You need to understand the basic trading rules of NBA. For the trade to work, the salary of players sent out by the Heat need to match the salary of Westbrook. Moreover, they also need to fill in the remaining roster and keep the total salary under the hard map meanwhile. What is worse, they do not have any unprotected draft picks that can be traded before 2025. That makes it very difficult for the Heat to pull off a trade without a third team involved. Even if they manage to make an offer, it can hardly be better than the Rockets' offer, which include 2 picks + 2 swaps that the rebuilding OKC team values most. By the way, I personally feel that the Rockets give up too much in the trade compared with the overall improvement of the team. Westbrook and Harden discussed about playing together after Paul's trade. It may be the pressure from Harden that leads to Morey pulling off the trade. |
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Quote Originally Posted by Miracling2:
FCKN asol they reall went for the double ot.Im out what a waste of time.Ridiculous, yesterday i need an ot.Now double ot? Whatever you do they win.Too much man. Im logging out. Fck sht man. This happens once a while in sports betting. You have to move on to the next game if this one loses. You may consider to get an account on those online books that allow cashing out bets for such situation. |
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Quote Originally Posted by Miracling2:
22 pts is the highest o.t score this playoffs.14 is the lowest.Double win i will be very happy come on. The live O/U line is 216.5 on Pinny. So it is still below the line before the 2nd half starts. |
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Quote Originally Posted by Miracling2:
They now scored 15 pts in first 5 minutes of 4th q.I need them to score 2 pts in next 2 minutes.And make my wish come true. Then no o.t man. If they score 2 in the next 2 min the game could remain under even if there is an OT. |
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Quote Originally Posted by Miracling2:
You see they need to score only 35 in 4th as an insurance if some o.t sht happens.Thats the only culprit in the 4th q.Score 17 only in first 7 minutes will you man.This aint funny man, we dont need them to succeed in sabotaging the under play man. Some online books offer live bets on whether games will go to OT so that you can put a small hedge in case you have a large bet on the under. |
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Quote Originally Posted by tae815:
Quote Originally Posted by moosie00: That may be true. I just haven't seen a line like that before. Other than lines of around -2 or lessI think its the team down 0-2 in the series effect Last year there was an article on Covers talking about the trend of 0-2 teams covering first half spread coming back home. Since then the books have adjusted the line. |
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Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:
Quote Originally Posted by MLdogs: Everyone in the world watching the game knows you can't stand on one side of one of the best players in the league and give him a free lane to the basket to create.I guess everyone except the Jazz.3rd loss in a row why did I trust you QuinnAside from players most of the couches are not sharpest knife in the drawer either They are mimicking the Buck's defensive strategy for Harden but they lack the personnel and defensive execution of the Bucks. |
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I lean the over in the Bucks and Rockets game. |
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Quote Originally Posted by PublicJoe:
Quote Originally Posted by joel00: Vegas changed their opinion on the favorite, Philly opened -1200 to win the series couple of days ago and now just -185 ?? that's a huge reaction after just 1 game.The books do like to balance their game handle. So the same line means they expect the amount of money on each side would be similar to game 1. Even for casual bettors I doubt many of them would change their opinion on the favorite after only one game in a series. Vegas does not change their opinion game-wise. But for the series the odds would change after each game. The series odds is basically calculated based on the current score and the chance of each team winning each game. |
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The books do like to balance their game handle. So the same line means they expect the amount of money on each side would be similar to game 1. Even for casual bettors I doubt many of them would change their opinion on the favorite after only one game in a series. |
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Well the books normally do not make significant changes to the line just because of one game unless there is a change of injury status. Sometimes the higher-seeded favorite that loses the first home game would even be larger favorite in game 2 because it is a must-win for them. |
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Quote Originally Posted by fourthandinches:
Quote Originally Posted by moosie00: In what universe is this smart?Break it down please. You place a bet before a game, okay. Make a bet against yourself buying out during the game? Let's see what you did here. Pay double the juice + more juice for live, taking out your potential wins for what? If you thought Philly wasn't going to win the game 0-0 why would they be winning the game down 10?But to come in and compliment him on this. I mean if you are making money doing this, who am I to talk? Remember, it may have worked individually for this game, but collectively are you making money doing this? I really just dont understand, please prove me wrong.nice job. smart way to play it This is mostly a question of risk management. It's possible that you can win more if you don't make the hedge bets. But the overall risk would also be higher.
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What are the odds of Rockets losing the way they did, Denver winning and Blazers winning?.
in NBA Betting I grabbed Nuggets at +512 and the Blazers at +123 in the fourth quarters and won both. Amazing games. |
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Quote Originally Posted by LeagueCapper:
28 point lead against 3rd stringers and ain't even going to cover. spurs up 20 the whole game and don't even cover.disgusted at the moment, this is just unreal. should have been a clean sweep today yet we going to be down units Big leads come and go quickly in today's NBA. That being said, in the hindsight it would be a better to take 1Q and 1H bets in this situation considering the uncertainty of 4th quarter lineups. For the Kings game these bets would also win easily. |
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Portland can get to the third seed if the Rockets lose to the Thunder and they win their remaining games. They should be motivated to win this one, at least before they know the outcome of the other game. |
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Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:
Yes. Excellent job of summarizing what is at stake. Wonder which teams are really invested in trying to achieve a desired outcome and which ones will let the chips fall where they may. I imagine everyone and their mother wants to play Portland and even Denver (as top seeds) while avoiding the death sentence of facing the Warriors and Rockets. The Thunder might prefer the Rockets over the Nuggets because the Nuggets present a bigger matchup problem for them and swept them in the regular season. However they do not have much control over their seeding. It's probably either the Warriors or the Rockets in the first round. |
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The seeding scenario is a lot more complex and interesting than what you stated. The Nuggets did a good job throwing away the Blazers game yesterday to manipulate the seeding. The move could potentially push both the Rockets and the Thunder out of their playoff bracket until the conference finals. For the Thunder: if they lose any of the remaining two games they likely drop to the eighth seed and play the Warriors in the first round. If they win both then they likely get to the 5th seed and play the Rockets in the first round (because the Jazz could throw away games to get to the 6th). I suppose they will try their best to get a win vs. the Rockets at home. For the Rockets: they retain the 3rd seed and likely play the Spurs if they beat the Thunder and drop to the 4th otherwise. For the Jazz: they can guarantee playing the Blazers if they lose both of the remaining two games and the Blazers win both. So they could throw away these games like the Nuggets did yesterday. For the Blazers: they get to the third seed if they win both of the remaining games and the Rockets lose to the Thunder. |
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Quote Originally Posted by StraightWagers:
I don't know why I'm stubborn nd continue to bet unders, maybe I have a screw loose There were more overs at the beginning of this season but unders have caught up as the books have adjusted their lines to the high-scoring games. The overall O/U record for this season is 712-710-36 so far this season. So it is definitely possible to win with a good strategy. |
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It is quite risky to take a tanking team like the Knicks to win straight up instead of covering the spread. Some other alternatives for higher odds are selling a few points on the spread, winning first half, and winning first quarter. |
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