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I disagree ak2313, I have logged more hours (as a dealer and player) then most people have live or online. All the bad beats online, I've seen worse live. It's not that they suck at poker, it's just the experience they had makes them think it is fixed, because of the sample size.
I have probably dealt and played over 500,000 hands maybe more, I've seen everything live that I see on line, and more. Like two Ace of hearts in the same deck, pots going to the wrong winner, a brutal run of cards on line, people calling with phuk all. I like Stars, Tilt, and Betfair, all pay out quick and accurately which for me is the key factor. Between those three I break it down further, but I have never had a problem with those three, and I find the customer service savvy. |
birdman11 | 45 |
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I agree with you in principle because I am concerned with any new site, I had the same concerns recently with BetFair (they paid quickly though and are very recommended by myself) because I had never used them.
I've had a similar experience that you describe with local bookies who don't manage the book properly or don't have enough financial backing, and then can't pay (that being said, that courtesy was extended to myself when I had to delay payment). I have thought about starting my own business trying too find a bridge between winners and looser, so I know the routines sites send you through, or most of the scams. I will see what happens, it's hard to say until I try a cash out, and because of that $400 restriction that could take a bit of time. I go back to my previous post, give gamblers 1k, hope they lose, make it hard to cash out, delay, wait until they loose, and post your own happy stories on covers, sbg, etc. That's the way I think, we'll see what happens. |
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Screw Phoenix and any game they play in. Some teams I just can not call right and any game involving Phoenix is included. Overtime tonight no good for me, last night against Utah, ridiculous.
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bevoaustintx | 90 |
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Thank you Sunset, this is my biggest concern with any online site. Getting paid out reasonably and easily, it sounds like you had a terrible experience getting paid. I have had the same experience at other sites, because of my own frustrations I eventually ended up loosing the entire amount I was up. My fault though, bad bets, casino play, that's my experience, no patience to wait through the red tape.
With all of the restrictions on this site, I don't think any serious handicapper would use them. That said those who need this type of service (credit) they still deserve to get paid on winnings. I have my doubts that CreditWagering.com pays on time and with no issues. But I have not qualified this myself, I am being swayed by comments on this and other sites. Depending what happens tonight I might be able to quanlify the cash out procedures, I have all ready met the 3k rollover. SunSet the idea of them paying you when they want confirms what I thought. Tonnes of restrictions on cash outs, delay winners until you collect from losers and delay complainers. That would explain the aggressive bonuses for paying on time (25% bonus towards the new week.... not crazy high, but high) The whole reason I started this thread is because I thought everyone who was complaining about other sites was on "the take" somehow. Posting in rooms to gain or promote websites. I thought I would rate an account, plus the ease of CreditWagering.com did intrigue me. My own unbiased experienced too help other people. |
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Explain why you would be in a hurry to lay -160 on a team that's lost 5 of the last 7sorry
in NHL Betting
Darn it I should have followed my own advice, well I can't complain I got lucky with LA -1.5. Congrats on those who took PHX plus money.
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avsfan135 | 86 |
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Well so far in my experience the site is great, they update lines quickly, respond to emails, juice is competitive.
Negatives - rollover is an issue, max bets could be an issue for some (but a positive for others), and I personally can't comment on payment settlement yet. I am interested to see what Sunset says in regards to my previous question about payment and his account. |
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GL Unplug, not looking terrible, I am on some of the same. Go MTL on a personal note.
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wiggins | 51 |
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I read on the website that moneybookers is only available to Canadians. I just want too make sure I understand your experience with the site. Because if they didn't pay you, it backs my theory previously stated.
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expos1 | 38 |
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So Sunset, just to be clear, you never got paid any owed winnings from CreditWagering.com?
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expos1 | 38 |
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And there it is 4-2, if it ends this way I am golden, hit all bets. Ahh dare to dream, lock it up, count that paper. Hahaha
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wiggins | 51 |
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Well the leafs hurt my under 6 by scoring another one, time to cheer for LA -1.5, go Kings
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wiggins | 51 |
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55 points with 6 minutes left, lol. That will teach me to bet out of boredom, under first half not looking good.
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CraveCase | 21 |
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Yeah, It means that he couldn't be paid from creditwagering.com moneybookers account, which is alarming. They owe him and couldn't transfer.
Assuming I am reading the posts right? Sunset did you get paid? |
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I made a bet with no research (and don't follow these teams) just bored. Under 106.5 first half. Is Minny that bad, I can't even watch the game (other than updates online) is there any defense, lol.
Congrats on taking NY first half. |
CraveCase | 21 |
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I am loving this free NHL.com tonight, not impressed with the goal by Toronto, hurts my -1.5 Kings and the under 6 parlay. Fun to watch though.
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wiggins | 51 |
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replied to
Explain why you would be in a hurry to lay -160 on a team that's lost 5 of the last 7sorry
in NHL Betting
Seems like a decent argument for value betting Phoenix here (I didn't bet the game), at +140 and with a better record you would be justified in my opinion. Detroit tends to trade on past achievements (long past) with general public.
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avsfan135 | 86 |
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Yeah I read that last night, that seems like a huge drawback of the site. I all ready have $1900 worth of action after one night, lol. All in all, the book has too many drawbacks, it pretty obvious that people would only use them because of the free $1000 with limited paperwork.
To cash out or pay you have to run +/- $400 in the week. $400 running a negative or positive is too much to obtain on 1k, with the max bets they initiate. Then the 3k in rollover. It seems to me like the business model wouldn't have to pay out too often and you would hope that anybody who looses pays. Too win $400 and a 3k rollover is tough. This experiment might stop soon for my part, the restrictions on the site are pretty tough. I will say this, good lines, update quickly (I did a lot of NBA half time bets), customer service responded quickly too emails and actually answered my questions. Those are the positives in my view. |
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Lol, yeah that that is the x factor for sure, I might learn how they accept money.
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expos1 | 38 |
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All right so my first full day of betting is done on this site.
I placed 19 bets in total (yes I am a fish), a couple of things I noticed are the low limits on the site. $100 straight up and $50 parlays, based on what I read your max bet is only a percentage of the line the credit, looks like 10%. The service department responded quickly to my email again. Tried the casino, first off I normally don't play the casino, I put in $50 and cashed out the same. Pretty typical skins in the casino software. I guess what it comes down is the low max bet, and I still don't know about how smooth cash outs are? Lines are comparable, played a lot of half lines in the NBA, what I got was comparable with other sites. I am up about $40 on the night, Boise State Screwed me by going to Overtime. I leave it at that for a while, and try to get enough for a withdrawal. |
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All right so made three plays with the book tonight, I am not touting my picks, or the site. Just keeping the thread up to date for information services.
Hockey: Pitt and NY under 5.5 (includes OT/Shootout) $100 to win $90.91 Basketball: LA Clippers and Boston under 190pts (buying a half point) $100 to win 83.33 Phoenix +7 vs Utah $100 to win $90.91 |
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