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Thanks LA, appreciate the back and forth. And you are definitely right in Franklin being a good coach anytime you back PSU as a favorite as he will run the score up. And on that note, man I tell you who really HATES him, Dantonio and Michigan St. Last year he ran it up on them when they were losing because he was mad at them from the year before. You could see the steam coming out of Mark Dantonio's ears as the game wind down. Unfortunately I dont think Mich St is very good this year but that will still be one to at least circle in East Lansing Nov 4th and at least keep an eye on. They play UM and Ohio St the weeks before though so that might be asking too much, but at some point in time Mich St will try and extract a piece a flesh out of Franklin's behind.
Good luck man, hope you keep it rolling.
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LA_THE_KID | 28 |
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I don't want to come off as a person because I appreciate anyone who takes the time to put analysis with their plays, so this is just a serious question, and not a flame in regards to your Penn St/NW view.
As far as Penn St gelling on O, last week they had 37 carries for 39 yards. That was abysmal. Also they opened the game with a KO return TD, a recovered fumble that set up a short field for a TD, and then an actual fumble return TD. Those were the first 21 points, and their last TD was Franklin running it up with a meaningless hb option. That's concerning to rush for only 1.1 yds per carry against Indiana. They should have lost to Iowa who couldnt stop Iowa St (and then who couldnt move the ball on Texas last week), and even the Pitt game wasn't impressive in light of both Okla St and GT stomping Pitt. Meanwhile this is Northwestern's super bowl. Trust me, this game was a big deal before the year, they aren't going to be depressed about losing last week at Wisconsin. That's more mythical, college kids really aren't wired like that. This will be a big game for them, and with a good coach who historically has had his teams play well at home in games like this, I think they are being underestimated here. I don't think they are very good however so it's tough to back them, but if I was playing this game, I would lean NW here. Good luck to you though since you actually have this as a POW game, but was genuinely curious as to how you think Penn St is playing well on offense?
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LA_THE_KID | 28 |
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No problem with the picks but come on with the Leach will have the crowd edge as many fans from his TT days will be on hand. You have to be kidding me right? It's the day after Christmas and Lubbock is 5.5 hours away....I hope that isn't a serious reason you are on this game. The weather and rain is more of a concern than any fan support which will be negated. Neither team will bring enough fans to make a difference in this one, and there certainly is no Mike Leach El Paso/Lubbock contingent to deal with. That's like saying I like Miami today because the supermarkets in El Paso sell oranges and oranges are grown in Miami.
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packers1992 | 11 |
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The college game is so different than the pro game but often you don't get details of why it's so difficult to play on the road. So just dropping this info here and one can process it however they see fit.
West Va left for Baylor this afternoon and with boarding, flight, de-boarding, and bussing to the hotel, you are looking at about 4.5 hours, so they arrived between 5-6PM. Where they arrived however is bizarre, as they chose to stay in Ft Worth. That's a solid 1:45 bus ride to Waco. Not to mention, its an 11:00AM (local time) kick. So they most likely are going to have a wake up call around 5:30, eat breakfast, then leave for the stadium around 7, take a 2 hr bus ride, then be mentally ready to play a top 5 team in their house at 11 AM who will be lying in wait and who has the advantage of being in their surroundings all week and the night before. That's beyond absurd, and I think it's going to have a big impact tomorrow. I already liked Baylor big in this game and it's simply because West Va just doesn't have the offensive firepower to keep up with Baylor. Their QB is awful, and that won't get it done in the B12 and against an offense that is going to put up 40 points on a bad day....This is also the first real test WVU will have without all everything Safety Karl Joseph. They had major communication problems in the secondary their last road game at Oklahoma, and that was with him playing. Toss in Baylor in a revenge spot, and I think it's more likely we see a game similar to the one 2 years ago where they hung 70 with ease, more than the one from last year or the one where Geno Smith threw for a gazillion yards 3 years ago. WVU just doesn't have weaponry like that this year. This is a really bad spot for WVU and their travel schedule makes it even worse. Baylor big.
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creativemike | 5 |
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I am with you on S Miss and really like their TT of over 26.5 more than the side as you have an out, in the event their defense gets torched. But it's definitely a good price on the ML as I don't think people realize how raw Marshall's true fresh QB is.
On the Clemson game, while I agree with you that it's a natural spot for a letdown, there are a lot of positive factors that trend toward Clemson, with the top thing being that they lost last year 28-6 at GT, so they are already going to be on high alert, and not walking around campus like they just won the Natl Title. That's a big deal in any letdown spot to be able to play that card and I am sure they have been reminded of that all week...The other thing is GT's strength, running the ball, plays into Clemson's strength, which is stopping it. GT has been banged up all year in the backfield and you can see why they aren't their normal selves with Skov having to carry it more than anyone, and this is probably the slowest backfield they have ever had. He should be having 5-6 carries a game, not in the mid teens. When you are as bad as GT is on defense, and you are sputtering running the ball against a good run Defense, it's going to be hard to win. This GT team isn't very good, evidence by last week's home beating by a mediocre UNC team. I think Clemson wins going away by a couple touchdowns. What I do like coming out of the Clemson-ND game though for a letdown spot is ND. This is Navy's Super Bowl, and they have been very efficient on offense. I will take 14 points all day long against a young QB and a team who most likely saw their #1 goal of making the playoffs slip away last week. Good luck and good writeups. Pulling for you on S Miss.
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DegenCurtis21 | 57 |
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He's playing. Injured thumb or not, he will still be able to get his average of 22 missed shots from 3 feet inside the rim and 10 balls slipping out of his hands.
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MoneyTeam99 | 4 |
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I lean Kansas because WVU is playing atrocious right now, and essentially can't score very well if they aren't creating chances off their press and their half court defense is awful.
With that being said, keep in mind that Kansas hasn't played WVU yet this year and they played Saturday, traveled yesterday (which isn't an easy trip), so they will barely have any prep time against a type of defense they haven't seen yet this year. That doesn't mean they can't win or they can't handle a press, but this year's Kansas team isn't as good as year's past where they can get off the bus and blow everyone out, and WVU's full court press is difficult to attack the 1st time seeing it. Their last 5 road games, they lost twice, slipped by TCU, and had an impressive win at Texas and a blowout win at Tex Tech who sucks. I think that either WVU plays above their heads tonight because they need a win badly, or Kansas wins easily. WVU isn't really a ebb and flow type of team where they go back and forth. They are either on and popping, or they are bad and outmatched and their lack of offense prevents them from getting back in games. A pass for me, but good luck to all.
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LastSecondAgain | 42 |
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There are some serious shenanigans in play in this game. Disclaimer that I am on DePaul and I liked them a lot today, primarily because I thought the number of +12.5 was way off in lieu of how they both have been playing and the chances it would be low scoring. This morning the line ended up rising to +15 in some places. At the half, even though DePaul is up 8, they have been outshot at the FT line 19-2!!!! The difference is they have managed to shoot 11-19 from the 3 point line. I try not to buy into the game fixing stuff, but there is/was something going on in this one. My initial guess lies on the refs planning on getting Xavier to the line all day, but perhaps DePaul is just drilling everything they shoot and there is nothing they can do about it. Its not likely they shoot like that from the 3 point line all game so Im just hoping the game ends but who and the hell knows what is going to happen in the 2nd half. This one bears looking into postgame no matter what happens. |
Legend65 | 7 |
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by Gary Patterson and the TCU staff. I will own betting Oklahoma today, so it is what it is, I lost, but what a horrendously called game by OU today in the 2H. Bob Stoops is a fucking moron for letting Josh Huepel let Trevor Knight try and throw the ball all over the lot. 3rd and longs the entire 2nd half because of the heinous playcalling on 1st and 2nd. Then as much as TCU tried to give OU the game, you have Trevor Knight trying to bounce a 3rd and 1 option outside instead of just diving ahead and picking up the first down. Gets the ball back at midfield with a minute left and they run a QB draw with no timeouts, and no timeouts at the end of the game because they used all 3 of them earlier in the half on offense. File that away in the future, 3 dumb fucks at OU at QB, OC, and HC. |
creativemike | 1 |
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That was awful. Made 10x worse by the apes on Michigan St. getting ejected and picking up personal fouls and unsportsmanlike conducts the entire 4th quarter. Just a pure trash team. Nebraska backers should go to church instead of coming on here to gloat. You got your friggin fools handed to you today and were bailed out by a once in a lifetime occurrence.
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chopnbroc | 44 |
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Just curious, why did you 2 guys like the over so much?
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creativemike | 7 |
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yeah the only other 2 totals I am playing are the overs in the Arizona/UTSA game and W KY/S Ala game
In watching Oklahoma last week, the under is probably the good side there. They've given up 7 points in 2 games to Holgorsen who even though this is a bad year for their O, can still dial up points on anyone, and UL Monroe who returned a lot of guys from a good offense. So Tulsa shouldn't be expected to get much....So that comes down to OU's offense, which looked completely awful last week against a WVU team who isn't good on D. OU going back to Bell at QB who is a runner. Not playing but would lean under, so best of luck to you, hope they all hit. Quote Originally Posted by GotNYCinme:
Bol. Ill take a look. Have u looked at any other totals? I am looking at Okl/Tulsa under 49.5, MsSt/AU under 50 and PSU/CF under 50. |
creativemike | 7 |
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I have bet this already so don't mind giving it out, but my play of the week is a total....Under 69 Marshall/Ohio U
Lot of reasons why I like this: Marshall games have gotten out of control the last few years due to their combination of a terrible defense + a high octane offense that not only throws all the time, but tries to play at a super fast tempo, thus resulting in a lot of their video game final scores. Those games are frustrating to bet on as they often don't allow for that predictability and controlled environment that we all are looking for when betting a total, when you have 2 teams are throwing the ball all over the place, resulting in quick TDs, turnovers that give up short fields to the others, etc...it's maddening because you can be right in thought but get burnt by an amateur hour 4th quarter. This year however, things are different in the fact that they are playing defense and emphasizing it. They brought in a new DC who has been around the block and has a lot of experience. Their HC is still one of the bigger idiots in college fb, but he has slowly learned that you have to play defense, and to his credit, they are making it a focal point this year. This is probably the best defense they have had in a while, and definitely the best in his tenure. Now with that being said, these 2 teams have played the last 4 years and none of the games has even come close to hitting 69, and that was when little defense was played. Marshall lost last year at home and they threw the ball 65 times. They have made that a point of emphasis this week, that they need to run the ball and they can't do what they did last year again. They will try to establish the run this week, and while they may still play at a fast tempo, it's going to be on the ground, which keeps the clock moving. Ohio on the other hand has struggled on offense. They put up 7 at Louisville and only 27 at home vs N Texas, in which they also only allowed 21. They always play Marshall tough, have beaten them the last 2 years, and Frank Solich has a superior HC edge in this one. Remember he was around the Black Shirts at Nebraska back when they actually played defense there (talking about his time as an assistant and not the head man). He will want to keep this from being a track meet, just the way he has the last 4 years, and I bet he gets his way again. This game has turned into a rivalry, as the schools are pretty close in proximity to one another, and with Marshall leaving the MAC several years ago, Ohio has used that to play the underdog card. While that sounds cliched, what the sum of it means here, is that these schools are going to get after one another, which is why you have probably seen the total the last 4 years stay way under the 69 that is listed this year. They don't like each other, and it's going to be a physical game, not the trash bag, no defense, both teams throwing 80 times CUSA game like Marshall is accustomed to playing. There are multiple angles to think this total here is way too high, and when you add them all up, I think this game goes way under with room to spare. I'm also on the 1H under as well. |
creativemike | 7 |
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A few things....
Yes they are having payout issues. They haven't paid people yet who have made withdrawls from 5 weeks ago. The 72 hour thing is their big move that they have always done, which is pure bullshit. It's so you will get the urge to bet over those 72 hours, and cancel it, then losing what you won back. The worst part is you used to be able to at least get someone via e mail or call. Now they aren't even responding to any e mails, and their live chat is a fucking joke. It's the same 4 aliases that don't have a clue when you ask them what is going on. This book is stalling, stalling, stalling. I would never put a dime in there ever again, much better options out there. Hopefully you get it squared away but again they are just stalling to put you back on another 72 hour clock before they "process" your withdrawl. IN lieu of them not paying many people for the last 5 weeks, unfortunately Im sure that is why you are being given the run around.
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westcoastwinner | 9 |
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For the most part, when receiving a bank wire withdrawl, the process is you submit it, then they leave it under review for 3 business days and process it under the 4th (obviously hoping you go back in and cancel it and bet it if you lose over those 3 days). Once it's processed it can take "5-10 business days", but I would say pretty consistently over the last year you could expect to get the wire within a week of when you originally submitted it, which isn't bad considering some of the other places out there. Well recently, things have gone downhill. I have been waiting over 3 weeks on a withdrawl, and they are now saying expect 10-20 business days....I made a 2nd withdrawl request over Christmas, and yesterday they posted a note on the site saying due to the holidays and banks being slow, plus the high demand of payouts, that no withdrawl requests made after Dec 19th will start being processed until Jan 3. and will be in the order they are received. (in which you can then start the clock on 10-20 biz days) This doesn't tell you anything, other than expect a long delay. A few years ago, they did this over basketball season and payouts took almost a few months to finally arrive. This book has been around for a long time and have always paid, I will give them that, but this reeks of cash flow problems. It's just simply inexcusable to have to wait this long, and then be dicked around with the vague answers on timeframe. I know we are big boys and that is the risk involved, but just making this post as a professional courtesy to everyone on Covers to tread cautiously with them, or if you are in the same boat to contact them and complain. I wouldn't deposit any money with them until they get this resolved, and would love to see some of the Covers execs see if they can make a plea on behalf of some of their customers. Have a happy holidays everyone. |
creativemike | 1 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Blakejeff: Record: 94-91-8 Had a great Thursday going 2-1 and hitting two outright upsets in my leans section. It is so hard to handicap Temple nowadays. I wouldnt have predicted that they would have blown out St. Bonaventure without Fernandez. This team is night and day on the ends of the talent spectrum. They could beat a lot of teams at their best while they could lose to the dregs at their worst. No word yet on Fernandez but he is an absolute must for this game as Duquesne is going to pressure the Owls to death. I have no faith in Ramone Moore or T.J. DiLeo to break the press consistently. I also have no faith in Lavoy Allen and Michael Eric to consistently play well. That said, Temple has beaten Duquesne as of late in the classic struggle between the smarter team against the more athletic team. Temple's defense has suffocated the Dukes from the 3 pt line and not allowed them to get on track from out there. This is an extremely difficult game to predict. With Fernandez, I think the Owls win...Without him, I don't. They are bound to lose eventually. Officially, I have no pick right now on the game unless there is definitive news on Fernandez. Elsewhere: Marshall +4 -- Can't trust Memphis right now. Take the better team getting points. Vandy/Tenn Over 146 -- The Vols defense has deserted them as of late. This one could be a track meet. Kansas State -11.5 -- Kelly is returning and Texas Tech is a wounded animal right now. KSU should pound them now that they are full strength. FIU +7 -- The Golden Panthers are so much better with Legion and Dominique Ferguson. North Texas -5 -- UNT may put up 100 against that sieve-like defense. Fullerton +2 -- I like this team more and more with Hardy. Leans: Surprised to see you are back on here giving Temple advice after the fucking beating they administered against St. Bonnie in which you were all over The Bonnies. Are you serious? You didn't just miss that game, you looked like Rob Deer. If it's so hard to handicap Temple, then you should stop doing it.
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Blakejeff | 25 |
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Anyone have anything to share here? There may be some value in FDU tonight catching 30.5, that's a lot of points.
While it's clear that Uconn is going to win and has 3 really nice victories this year, they also have only covered a number this large only once, and that was to an 0-7 MD-Balt team (who is much worse than FDU) who they beat by 33, and that includes games over New Hampshire, StonyBrook, and Vermont. FDU has won 3 in a row, with a nice win over C Conn St, who played Dayton tough last night. FDU also only lost by 10 at NC State earlier this year in the only game you can really rate them on. Again, not asking for an outright win, but I think they can stay within 30. Anyone have any additional intel on FDU?
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creativemike | 1 |
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Ron Zook is so goddamn awful. Fresno St starts every possession the same way. A 40 yard KO return then completes the same fucking out route for 20+ yards every god damn drive! Adjust you fucking piece of shit!
But his gem of the night was in the 1st half after recovering a fumble at midfield and having scored the series before and finally having momentum, he takes out his QB and brings in fucking Eddie McGee for a series......3 and OUT. Real smart fucking time to make that move you dumb fuck. He is truly one of the biggest god damn idiots to ever coach a fucking game and I deserve to be beat over the skull for backing his team. God they suck.
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Ordell_Robbie | 360 |
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A guy named YumaPig just drills a 3 for CSF, tied at 67.
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hollywoodundead | 220 |
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CMU 67-64. Announcer goes down choking.
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hollywoodundead | 220 |
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