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TorontoJoey
TorontoJoey
Las Vegas / MGM Grand / View Post
Toronto Joey,

Presuming your are from Toronto as your handle suggests, I will share my experiences as a fellow Torontonian who spends up to 6 months a year in Vegas.

1. MGM overall is a decent large, centrally located 4* hotel. Other MGM properties close by including Mandalay Bay, Bellagio and Aria are however much nicer 5* properties. 

2. The Sportsbook is average and targeted mainly at squares who bet the favorites and the posted lines reflect that (meaning they are higher than they should be to balance the action). On the strip, there are generally 4 different Handicappers with my personal preferences as follows.

a) Cantor Gaming (Tropicana, Cosmopolitan). Better lines and betting options and no practical betting limits. At Cantor books, you can bet $50K on a game with no issues. No points on player cards and no free drinks. They also offer free mobile betting through a handheld device.

b) William Hill (Hooters Casino), right beside MGM. Good lines, shitty casino in bankruptcy. You bet and leave to go somewhere else to watch the game.
 
c) Caesars properties (Caesars Palace, Planet Hollywood, Bally's Flamingo etc.). Targeted mainly at Squares who bet the favorites. The only Sportsbook worth watching a game at Caesars properties is Caesars Palace itself which is next to Bellagio on the west side of the strip. Caesars does give you points on their Total Rewards card. You'll normally get one to two free drink tickets for every $400 wagered. So a $1K bet would get you 2-4.

d) MGM properties (MGM Grand, Mandalay Bay, Luxor, Excalibur, NY NY, Bellagio etc.). Least competitive lines, no points on players card. In the area you will be staying, Bellagio has one of the nicest books to watch the game and all drinks including premium options are free in the book no tickets required. The seating area is small though, so it fills up fast.  

3. $1K is not a large bet by Vegas standards. You'll need to bet at least $5K to get anyone even remotely excited.

Hope this helps.


Cheers!
promark12
promark12

Corporate raider and financier Carl Icahn who until 2008 controlled major casino/resort operator American Casino & Entertainment Properties offered US$156 million in cash and financing, outbidding Penn National Gaming for control of the Fontainebleau.[12] Icahn's bid includes a US$51 million debtor-in-possession loan, which, until the resort is auctioned, will provide funding to stabilize the building, cover employees' salaries, cover previous costs and eliminate the need for the resort to ask the bankruptcy court each week to borrow and spend money. Penn National dropped out of the bidding after going as high as US$145 million; they had offered US$101.5 million in cash and loans.

As of November 2009, the cost to complete the resort is an estimated US$1 to 1.5 billion.[4] On December 29, 2009, PLANTworldwide Chairman Brett Plant announced that the he would contribute US$500 million to ease the bankruptcy predictions and by doing so increasing his stake in the hotel.

On February 18, 2010, Carl Icahn assumed part-ownership of the project without an auction by being the only qualified bidder, paying US$150 million.

In October 2010, owner Carl Icahn auctioned off the furnishings previously intended for the building. For example, the Plaza Hotel & Casino in Downtown Las Vegas bought rugs, furniture and mattresses from the sale and is using them in a refurbishment that was completed in late 2011. Future plans for the hotel project have not yet been disclosed to the public.[13]

kohli4
kohli4
Las Vegas / Sports book food / View Post
Hey Kolhi, 

Check out Lagasse's stadium at the Venetian/Palazzo. Stadium seating, in-house sports book and great eats.

http://www.palazzo.com/Las-Vegas-Nightlife/Lounges/Lagasses-Stadium/

Always stop by when I'm in sin city.
budwiser
budwiser
I've bet at the Wynn many times over the years and never had an issue. Its a great property. While I agree that most requests are related to money laundering or federal law requiring same, the reality is any smart money cleaner will simply use multiple casino's and limits well under $10K. Anway, its alot easier to simply clean it at the tables using chips. Such laws are really for the stupid and inept.   
shotenzenjin
shotenzenjin
Agree with you on Pinny. By far the best offshore book out there!
Kaufee
Kaufee
While I never taken the wrong bet, I threw out a ticket on the Lakers once that covered cause I was drunk and knew they won, but thought they hadn't covered. At least it only cost me a c bill....    
budwiser
budwiser

I've never had any issue at Cantor books. I am normally at the M or Hard Rock. Cantor is now managing the Venetian as well, so I guess we'll see what happens.

 

 

bigbill365
bigbill365

Single game betting is inevitable with so much money going offshore, but the devil is always in the details recognizing it will take time to wind its way through the political process.

Currently, the parlay odds suck even on 2 gamers, so they may introduce it but with garbage lines to ensure the government gets a higher hold, which will mean we'll have to be selective on plays. If NJ goes first, that may help. As for BC, I heard they were going to be introducing single game betting. What happened?      

killacam1
killacam1
I use Pinny exclusively, but used to use SI at one time until I got cut to $5 a bet. There lines suck unless you take the u/dog against heavy public favorites and if you win with any consistency, they cut you right away.. 
GADAWG101
GADAWG101
Oh and to Winslows point, not only do they do that, but they also make money selling your number to all the other scammers as well. Thats why you got 5 calls.....  
GADAWG101
GADAWG101

I have never seen any service that can pick 70% over the long haul in any sport. While anybody can produce a good streak from time to time, most will settle in between 55%-60% if there any good. However, I would argue (and suspect most touts would agree) that % of wins is not the most important measure anyway, it units. There are touts that can go 7-10 for example on there best NFL (10*, platinum or whatever) plays in a season.

Myself, I would love to talk to the guys that went 3-14. As long as a service is consistent, bad or good, you can make money off em. I make most of my money fading the "experts" and am making my $$ now in NHL. Many services that don't know NHL, but still have the balls to sell picks anyway are squares that take the favorite on the ML, so even when there hitting 50%, there losing on the juice. With discipline and time, you can bury them...

playdog
playdog
I use Pinny exclusively and site crashes aside (which admittedly suck), they have always been good to me. Decent limits, great lines and they don't limit you to $5 on future bets if you win.
HovaTDX
HovaTDX

For $500 bucks a month for picks, it better include a happy ending...

I track em and have made more money fading them on NHL. Fortunately, they almost always take favorites, so even when they are winning over 50%, there usually losing on the juice....Generally alot will make money on their specialties like NFL, college ball or whatever, but to make any money, you really need to risk alot and bet them over time. The best part of fading them on their daily picks which are guaranteed is that if they lose, you won on the fade and you don't pay them for the pick!

Based on my tracking, the stats they release appear legit, but they just find the current angle that shows a profit. For example, they'll say that the guys 4-1 on his last 5 1H NFL plays which is true, but if you had bet all his plays in the last 7 days, you'll be down whatever.....      

Irish08
Irish08

In terms of sports, you'll get the sharpest lines and best betting options at Cantor books which are located at the M, Hard Rock, Cosmopolitan, Venetian and Tropicana. Cosmo, Venetian and Trop are all on the main part of the strip. They are not great places to watch the game though as they are designed strictly for betting and you won't get drinks unless your betting alot...Caesars and Mirage will give you 1 drink ticket for every $200+ bet or so and are much better places to watch the game. Often you'll need to ask though if they don't offer it when you place your bet.

Bellagio is fairly liberal on drinks as long as you have a ticket (although alot of times they don't even ask) and you get better quality booze too.

As for clubs, there are a ton, but it really depends on what your looking for. High-end or basic.

     

zmoneymaker
zmoneymaker

Capriotti's is good and they have multiple locations in the valley, but nothin beats the Earl at PH. You can get a hot sub for like $5.99 

And for us degenerates, you can use your Total Rewards points to pay, so even if you just got busted on the Jets losing on the spread, you can still get fed..

fishsticks
fishsticks
Las Vegas / Vegas Gourmet / View Post

If you want cheap, clean, with no lease and walking distance to the strip, you can't go wrong with Holiday Royale. Stayed many times over the years including for months at a time.

Its less than 5 minute walk to the Hard Rock with Cantors sports book = great lines. You can get a studio with a microwave and small fridge for about $189 per week or $750 per month + tax. Its gated and they even have a pool clean enough that you can actually use it. The only downside is that it is along the flight path as its very close to the airport, so you do get some noise, but you get used to it.

 

   

GOPHERNATION12
GOPHERNATION12
No need to spend that much money on accomodations unless you really need to have 5* or you want to be right on the strip. You can always rent a suite at the Signature (private condos at the back of the MGM complex) or Palms Place (West of the strip) that will give you all you need for much less. Typically depending on how many bedrooms you want, you can get a kitchen, living room, dining room etc. for approx. $1,500 to $2K per month. I have stayed at both for extended periods and they are great.  
bchadwick
bchadwick
Caesars Total Rewards is definately the way to go for the mid-upper level player and it works at all Caesars properties including outside of Vegas. As a Diamond member, not only do I get all the comps that many have already mentioned including up to 5 days per month at a member property, but Diamond and Seven Star members get access to VIP lounges which are not advertised and give you unlimited free drinks and snacks for you and a guest. You have to tip your server of course. Also, Caesars will let you collect points on sports bets as well although the lines usually are not as good as Cantor books like the M, Hard Rock, Cosmo, Venetian and Trop.      
Hollywoodturf
Hollywoodturf
This is a must win game for TB - don't know if they come back to win it all but, my $$$ is on em today GL
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