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Quote Originally Posted by mws: TCU got robbed vs. Oklahoma? Maybe. But what about the WVU game? The 2-point conversion pass was clearly obviously blatantly incomplete but they were gifted the win. Blatantly incomplete? No sir. They took that win on the road which is what Patterson teams do, play with that chip on their shoulder.
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bookieassassin | 65 |
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Quote Originally Posted by CalBear: Don't look merely at the statistical rankings. TCU may be ranked 8th in rush defense statistically but look at their schedule....they have played pass happy teams. WVA, Okla St,TTech, Baylor, SMU are all in the top 25 in pass attempts with Virginia and Iowa St not far behind being 31st and 35th in pass attempts. They have not really been tested by a true running team. GL either way. If there is one thing TCU has done well over the years under Patterson, it's stop the run. That is his #1 goal on the defensive side of the ball no matter who they play, stop the run. This is a great spot to back TCU.
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abizzo24 | 11 |
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Quote Originally Posted by KANSASSTATECAT: Ya, Klein playing is no doubt. Further, TCU is not changing their game plan. They will proceed forward accordingly in practice. The only drama this creates is with the media/gamblers/fans. TCU game does make me nervous. The line will go up for sure. That is, if the line is -1. I personally have not seen it on my book because there is no line as of 2 minutes ago. Beyond the Bets ? @ beyondthebets
Kansas State opens as a 7.5-point favorite at TCU (via @ DonBestSports screen). |
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Quote Originally Posted by amd: Oklahoma State -7 Thoughts on this? With the QB switch at OSU and Lunt/Chelf having very little game experience, this is a risky play IMO. Boykin for TCU will be starting his 4th game and the last two games he's played great, showing great strides each week. Also, TCU outgained both Iowa St. and Tech by over 100 yards each in their losses, turnovers is what got them. But this goes back to what I said above, Boykin has been progressing. Lastly, TCU's defense has created lots of turnovers this year (similar to OSU last year). Let me know.
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amd | 102 |
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TCU ran at will on Tech last week and should've won that game, outgaining them 516-389 in total yardage. K St. will run the ball and control the clock, and will cover IMO.
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KANSASSTATECAT | 34 |
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Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin: A total waste of time to ever talk about it.....> shaving points *SURE.....it can and does happen....but A. Prolly wouldn't happen in a program with much notoriety...especially one under recent scrutiny like TCU (drug thing) B. Prolly wouldn't happen in a program with many NFL players...> Pachall (at this point) is looking at potentially a nice NFL career / payday...think of the cash it would take to buy a (potential) NFL draft choice out......not that ONE guy wouldn't be stupid enough..but you would need several idiots for this to work *attracting attention....is the LAST thing you would want....look for a Sun Belt or a MAC team/game C. Pointing to multiple mistakes....made by many different players...and suggesting practically half the team is paid off?.....sorry is ridiculous *because the BOYS that try to fix these games...know that multiple parties would eventually talk > meaning you're ass is going to prison *SO.....you look for ONE guy that can influence the outcome...that needs cash and ain't going to the NFL....if he threatens to talk you can easily make the 'problem' disappear......... *Despite what the drug thing suggests...Patterson runs a pretty tight ship...makes his guys go to class ++ in an extremely conservative town...TCU is one of the last places you would target .....(to all you Eagle Scouts.....all 124 FBS teams have a drug/alcohol problem) D. Instead of worrying about it.....essentially the Frogs POOR PLAY......why not just bet against them? *because most likely we will NEVER KNOW anyway so who cares really?.......... *maybe start this week vs Iowa St....better catch the Cyclones at 10 before it drops further.......... Thank you, this topic has become a joke.
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TRAIN69 | 29 |
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See my post in boom boom's thread on this.
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yunginvestor | 11 |
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Tcu fan here and was at the game last night. The conspiracy theories on here baffle me. Look at the facts, we have played 15 true freshmen so far this year, tied with LSU for the most in the nation. In Gary patterson's 12 years at TCU the most true freshmen he's ever played in one season is 6. In the game last night we had 4 botches on snaps/catches/holds on punts and fg's....all by true freshmen. bTW, it poured the entire game which resulted in the sloppy mistakes by BOTH teams. Bottom line, we are a young team and not a top 15 team at this point in the season, the end. No conspiracy theories.
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Boom_Boom | 234 |
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Quote Originally Posted by zmoneymaker:
at airforce Yeah, terrible...they only have the best coach in the nation as voted on by the coaches over the offseasn and have consisently won the past 10 years. 1 game = overreaction. As for Air Force, they are a very solid and disciplined team, and very tough at home. This is the same AF that took OU to the wire in Norman last year..... |
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Quote Originally Posted by RJSizzle:
With all that said, the loss of Hughes is huge as he was a guy you double-teamed and I just dont think TCU has that player on their defense this year. The loss of Jerry Hughes huh... yeah you might have a point if he was on the team last year. Frogs cover here, Baylor's D is downright terrible and was ranked #110 + overall last year..specifically their secondary is extremely vulnerable with no depth and JUCO transfers (one who joined the team August 19th and will start) sprinkled throughout. Now, if you are looking for a spot to possibly go against TCU it's next week against a very experienced and disciplined Air Force team with around 18 returning starters who always play the Frogs tough at home... |
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Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:
that Baylor move is shocking to me, I'm very suprised people believe in an Art Briles coached team against such a well coached TCU squad TCU's new QB will surprise many in this one and Frogs will once again stomp Baylor TCU may have all newcomers but the Baylor defense is still the Baylor defense just my opinion +1 I'm a TCU grad and die hard fan and know this TCU team very well and they will cover here due in large part to the disaster that is the Baylor D...they were one of the nation's worst defenses last year, specifically the secondary, and they lost five of their top tacklers from last year. Frogs 31-20. Now, next week is a much better spot to bet against the Frogs when they travel to play a very displined & experienced Air Force team that returns around 18 starters after a hard fought inner state "rivalry" game with Baylor... and it's a place where these two have played very tight games in the past.
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dugie243 | 11 |
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Quote Originally Posted by RP333: There are those who would try and convince us that because the line has dropped and the consensus is heavily in favor of the White Sox, that the "smart" play is on the Royals. I wouldn't take Kyle Davies and his 7.74 ERA and 1.98 whip at +1.09 if you spotted him a five-run lead. No matter what! Just sayin' Agree 100% Buerhle faced KC on July 4th in a game that CHW won 5-4. His line: 7 ip, 7 h, 1 bb, 4 k's, 3 er. Solid. Also, Buehrle has not allowed more than three earned runs in any of his last 13 starts since April 22. He has pitched at least six innings in all but one of those starts. Hey, the Royals might win tonight, it's baseball. But at CHW -120 I'll gladly pay to see it. |
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Quote Originally Posted by ManassaMauler: Buerhle awful vs kc.. Bol Well he took the mound against them two weeks ago in a game that CHW ended up winning 5-4. Buerhle went 7 innings, gave up 7 hits, 1 bb, 4 k's, and 3 earned... I'd say that's a quality start. |
LVTruck | 73 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Arid_Torpor: Usually, TCU is good for at least one major non-conference opponent. Don't know what they're doing this year. Unless BYU and Boise State are both undefeated and highly ranked when they play, it's hard to see TCU being worthy of any hype at all, even if they go undefeated. And even if BYU and BSU are great teams, they'll have to absolutely destroy them both to get the kind of chatter they had last year. C'mon fellas, try and do a little leg work before spouting off. Texas Tech backed out of a home date @ TCU a few months back (for the second time in three years) which put TCU in a bind scheduling wise. |
lsufasteddie | 33 |
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Quote Originally Posted by middleman820:
Did you watch the game !They ran for 229 yards about a 5yard average.Someone with your intelligence was calling the plays for Whisky! Good grief, Wisconsin averaged less yards per play than TCU in that game: Wisc averaged 5.7 ypp and TCU averaged 6.2 ypp... yes Wisconsin had more total yards bc they have a great O-Line and helped moved the chains but the TCU defense buckled down when it needed to. TCU's offense on their three scoring drives scored fairly quickly... led 3.5 quarters of this game and were and are the better team b/c they made the key plays when it counted. |
VenomLugz | 106 |
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Quote Originally Posted by DtotheP:
Big Ten poster?? The guy said he was a "diehard Auburn fan"
BTW, your little fail proof formula above is exactly what happened in Boise vs Utah in the MAACO Bowl? 70% on Boise and the line moved the other way, yet Boise still covered. True, Boise did cover with the public on them. But you failed to mention the 63% on WVU, 75% on Mizzou, and the 66% on Hawaii. Sure, public plays do hit sometimes, but more often than not Vegas wins these types of plays...bowl season is where the casual bettor comes out of the woodworks and gets their $ taken from them. |
atlstaats | 33 |
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Quote Originally Posted by ozzwald:
WISC played OHIO ST, IOWA & MICH St... to TCU's UTAH ....and wisky beat ohio st at home, squeeked by a 7-5 Iowa team by 1 point and lost to Michigan St. in a game where they were dominated being outgained 444-292. Is Utah a top 20 team, I think not...but that doesn't take away from the absolute ass kicking TCU put on them on the road 47-7. Any other takers.... |
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Quote Originally Posted by DtotheP:
and the BCS formula isn't flawed at all.... yeah okay I think your little TCU team would beg to differ Not saying it isn't flawed, no sir. I'm saying I'd put more emphasis on a math model than some Big Ten poster with an agenda. |
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Quote Originally Posted by DtotheP:
no you don't have to make a prediction, but if you don't then you have to put up with the ridicule of people saying you have no balls since you only came in here to praise some douchebags rating system versus somebody's opinion. Wow. This "douchebag's rating system" is a part of the BCS formula... so I would hang more merit on that than some random Joe Public's opinion. Where do you people come from.... |
atlstaats | 33 |
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Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater:
i have to make a prediction because i pointed out that his information is inaccurate? really? Sagarin is far more respected than atlstaats in the sportsbetting world, i can assure you... if you want to assemble your own SOS ratings, then go for it... i am just pointing out what the experts think... Thank goodness there are knowledgable posters out there like you... All of these Big Ten posters saying Wisconsin will roll TCU...really, really? Then riddle me this folks, 70% of the money is rolling in on Wisconsin yet the line has moved to TCU -3 from -2.5 . TCU is a more complete team that excels in all three phases, Wisconsin has a great offense and slightly above average defense and poor ST coverage teams. |
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