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Mayweather is the much superior fighter and now that both fighters have shown a minor decreases in physical ability, it comes down to the better boxer. Mayweather is one of the best analytical fighters ever and the best today. He has waited for Manny to decline in physical stature even at his own as Manny was the fighter who relied on physical abilities and less on strategy and ring tactics, also Floyd has been taught proper fundamentals as soon as he could walk.
Floyd's concern was Manny with short arms being able to throw fast and hard combinations inside, but Manny has not been able to damage fighter who calculate and bring boxing skills in the ring and much less brawling skills. Although Manny got robbed against Bradley, it didn't hurt his career and allowed Bradley to stay undefeated. Now this allows Manny vs Juan IV and Juan will win again and maybe get the decision only to make it go another time. They can hype up undefeated vs undefeated in Mayweather vs Bradley. That fight would be much better to watch than Manny vs Floyd for a few reasons. Floyd will show Manny more respect if they fought, and not allow Manny inside fighting and go one to win an easy twelve round decision. Floyd won't have much respect for Bradley and even though he rarely has ever felt the need to impress the crowd inside the ring by trying to KO an opponent. This time I feel Floyd will test the waters and realize what most assume about Bradley's punching power and take him out. This will be the first bout you will see Mayweather stalking his opponent the majority of the time instead of other fighters coming at Floyd. Also, a fighter being scared and concerned are much different. Floyd see's the advantages and dis-advantages and apparently has seen something about Manny that didn't fit his quota for easy fights. Most likely the range of short burst of punches close inside. Does anyone really think Floyd has nightmares of Manny or is truly scared, or do they feel he doesn't like the match-up? A major difference in the two concepts. Mike Tyson during his early years before and first year or so as champ said he use to get overwhelming fear and anxiety to the point of a breakdown. He said in an interview it is like the fear of flying, once the plane takes off, fear no longer has any positive value. Similar to the opening bell he use to charge in a rage to get the fight going and get that anxiety released. So, before Tyson was well known and fighting some experienced veterans, he stated how the veterans were so relaxed and he felt like leaving the ring if they didn't start the fight right away. Somehow if that fact is true, he seemed to do very well when he was scared. A few years later, he became feared like Sonny Liston, Sam Langford and Charley Burley. |
gollum | 19 |
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I agree that Floyd will take the easy way in order to produce more money and increase his fighting longevity and minimize any short term and long term damage.
As long as you have no national boxing commission with full oversight and control, corruption at the highest and lowest levels will exist easily. The main monster and culprit is.... the FANS! As long as they believe the BS on HBO 24/7 and constant advertising to increase a fights PPV revenue, and people are stupid enough to keep paying, this is what you will get. Modern day athletes are business men and marketers more than athletes. I only watch a few professional sports anymore, but as a kid I remember NBA teams played a full game and not just the last two minutes. I remember the days when NFL coaches weren't even judged by media or staffing at the very minimal until after their entire first year, but now just over 1/3 of the season passes by and the team is off to a bad start of 2-4 are already in the media with the coach considered in the HOT seat and very soon to be on the chopping block. At least college athletics has priorities and must perform all year to be considered as a possible professional. Boxing has gotten to be the ultimate joke and people buy these $59.99 PPV events that are not close to competitive and wouldn't even make the Tuesday Night Fights fight card two decades prior. BACK TO FLOYD... he has followed the modern day self-marketing athlete and apparently he has pulled it off as he is ranking #1 in revenues. If these fighters were not millionaires, and had a contract fight for $3 million with winner take all, you would see fights. As a extra incentive, if a fighter won by knockout they would earn $5 million, you would see some serious old school fight to death matches. I said $4 million then to $6 million as you would get to much fighter collusion to cheat so that they could split the shares. Not to lose the context regarding Floyd, but you have to consider motives and a persons goals. Apparently Floyd has a clear-cut motive, get paid with little risk and keep it flowing as long as he can. Floyd a coward? No. His motives are different. Take NFL running backs and use Walter Payton as the role model who always hit corner backs and didn't run out of bounce. Now star NFL running backs have salaries so high that they are told to run out of bounce and avoid getting hurt as the risk vs reward is not worth it. So in comparison, you would be calling 90% of NFL RB's of today cowards! Floyd has the skills and IQ to beat everyone, and it is upsetting to see such skills wasted on nothing more than a sparring match for $100 million + >>> |
DeHoyos | 299 |
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As for Sugar Ray Robinson... most people not only talk him about him as he is clearly ranked most people's #1 fighter lbs-for-lbs but another factor remains. When comparing fights and fighters, talking about Robinson is used as he is considered the pinnacle, and using him as a guideline as to being the best. People have talked about Mayweather vs Pacquiao for years and years now, and it is clear it won't happen anytime when either fighter is anywhere near their physical prime anymore. So talking about them both fighting is as redundant as people talking about real fights that did happen during great fighter's primes!!!! THE NAIL IS IN THE COFFIN!
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gollum | 19 |
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Mayweather is not much of a risk taker. He takes fights that are basically over before they finish signing the contracts. The only thing I don't like about Mayweather is the fact he has all the skills and his boxing IQ is above the rest, therefore not fighting the best fighters at their best prime time is a shame. I believe Mayweather would defeat them all, but that would involve risks he won't take.
Also, I keep reading on this forum about Mayweather fighting Cotto when Cotto was at his worst. What? He finally learned defensive skills, also developed in the ring adjustments, and he fought 4 of the most physically and mentally damaging fights out of a top 10 list in the past decade, but he did this in a time frame of 2 years. Any other fighter would be wrecked after any of these, especially two. Mosley was a 12 round war, Margarito was a plaster filled cheater that could have killed Cotto after 10 full rounds only to be stopped right after, then Clottey had a hurt knee but Cotto had a major gash and couldn't see properly in round 3 and winning a controversial 12 round split decision, and then he was destroyed by Manny to be stopped in the 12th round. So after 47 rounds of pure destruction, people assumed he is finished, only to be wrong and he comes back better than ever. The Mayweather fight he did his very best but was up against a better, faster, stronger, and bigger guy. Mayweather clearly won, but it was clear that Cotto is far from done! BTW: Mayweather vs Pacquiao... isn't Manny fighting Marquez again on December 8th? Why do people keep bring up a fight for nearly 5 years now only to hold your breath when you aren't under water! LOL! |
gollum | 19 |
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(Round 7- Ward vs Sanchez)
Lampley "Sanchez has absolutely nothing to fear as he leans in on Ward." Roy Jones Jr "If I were paying for this fight on pay-per-view, I would be asking for half of my money back" and "someone should pay me to watch this." 10 Seconds later, Sanchez was down and out! Jones was the guy that felt he was so unbeatable he would play a semi-pro hoops basketball game the day of a championship fight. He was without a doubt physically one of the (if not the best) best but his decision making was terrible. HBO has Jones commentating because they would hate to ruin the reputation they have built on guys like Lampley and other bums. Watch Cotto vs Clottey, I think Lampley either didn't know Clottey's name or is just so into Cotto he only can see Cotto. |
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Quote Originally Posted by DeHoyos: If JR can go 89-1-1 he will have the same record as his father and can then eclipse his records.
Dreamin cause reality doesn't fit my beliefs! THE LEGEND WAS BORN, BUT NEVER SHOWED UP! You can rematch the fight at Machu Picchu, but when you have a real fighter against an out-classed average fighter, the place is irrelevant. |
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