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@Jdukes - But, this isn't your typically Thursday night game where both teams played on Sunday. Both teams played on Thanksgiving so in reality it is just a normal game week for both teams just shifted.
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charlieloveit | 166 |
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I'm a Steelers fan and this game falls right into a game the Steelers lose...they play up/down to their competition. They played a great game last weekend and are ripe to come down.
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rustyzbar | 13 |
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Natty68 | 2 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Bear_Down74: Thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard...Yes teams have off days, but to say they don't bring their A game every week unless its week 15/16/17 when they have a lock in the playoffs is stupid....These guys play hard for 16 games every single week. KC is trying to make it this year and giving up a win to oakland is not what they want. This team needs a bye and wont get it losing garbage games like tonight. Not in the least. No one is arguing that they don't play hard but sometimes the other team focuses on this game. You don't think Oakland is looking at this game as one of the last chances this year to get a win? KC is coming off of beating the defending SB champs. They have a huge home game next week against Denver for 1st place in the AFCW. Do you think KC players are completely focused on lowly Oakland and might not be looking ahead to Denver, even if they say they aren't. Add in the short week and this game is ripe for all the inexperienced KC backers to fill the board later tonight complaining about the game being fixed. Hell, it is only last week this situation happened - Denver at Rams. Or how about the Chiefs demolishing the Rams a few weeks back during the Rams inter-conference game after playing 2 division opponents and then 2 more division opponents on deck. Maybe Oakland doesn't win but taking KC minus the points is about the squarest play you can make.
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RatedR10305 | 60 |
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I'd also stay away from SD because you wouldn't want to take a road team in a Division rivalry game even if it is Oakland
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djbrow | 22 |
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Quote Originally Posted by djbrow: Most people still have Seat but most don't have Denver. Lots of thoughts on trying to 'steal' a week with TN or Cinci. I admit that Seat scares me for some reason. Thoughts? Dave, I wouldn't be scared about Seattle. Dallas is not that good of team. They are stealing close wins. Seattle has the CBs and DL to shut Dallas down. It is also only week 6 - to early to look at road teams crossing the country as a pick. There is still a ton of value in Denver later in the season. I think if Locker plays and AJ plays Titans and Cincy are the sneaky smart picks. But, what do I know I picked the Lions last week and watched Henery doink field goal attempts off the uprights. T Burger
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djbrow | 22 |
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While the public likes to lay their bet down after work a couple of things happened.
1) favorites went 9-6 this week - 2) a couple of teams that are getting talk up on ESPN - like the Colts, Skins and a team with a big following - Dallas getting points after a tragedy (with a short memory the KC LB was only 10 days ago) so they got a big public following. 3) You also had the two New York teams cover 4) You had all the afternoon games and evening game where the favorite cover and outside of GB/Det go over. So, the public has money to burn...why not get it going with NE. It also like means there are a number of open parley's and teasers laid down by the public coming from yesterday's big games still working with NE and the over. Thus, the books are trying to lay off some of that liability. |
DA_BOYS | 42 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Lundegaard: silly, facile covers argument. a hypothetical line like -7.5 -110 in effect makes u go to 10 since 8 and 9 are remote #s to land on (by virtue of how points are scored). but if u have to go to 10 you want to be paid for it (with plus juice). since u won't get plus $ at 7.5, the next best thing is not getting hooked because, despite the confidence, the ball is pointy and shit happens, especially at the end of a game. -7 -120 on a bomb is smart money management. anyway, there's zero juice paid on a winning bet and when you load up ur not going into it to lose it. obv, only buy off the prime key #s like 3,7,14, etc. how many times do you think Billy Walters has been hooked on a huge play? maybe once early on and then never again. gl I think InVegas makes a point but doesn't fully carry it out. Bentely's thread heading says 5* play. If it is a 5* play, the line should be so far off that you do not need to buy anything and especially not buying a full point like getting from 2.5 to 3.5 at -140 does. I can see buying points when you are down in your 1/2 * games and I can sort of see having a 2-3 star game and buying .5 but not buying a full point and rating it a 5* game. |
BentleySports | 46 |
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NFL better start thinking about those pension plans for their regular refs.
in NFL Betting Quote Originally Posted by Skipster: but this is not the issue. the owners are trying to kick the refs off their defined benefits pension plan, which many companies have done to their workers. except in the case of the nfl there appears to be no financial hardship which is causing it. the owners see it happening to other unions and decided they should be able to keep a few extra thousands for themselves. 1) I've seen reports that they are essentially dealing with 100K per team per year. Think about that. A multi-billion dollar is trying to squeeze the refs for 100K a team. 2) Refs have other jobs which likely provides a 401K retirement plan. A person can only put away 15K or so in a 401K plan regardless of how many plans a person is in. Thus, if a person maxes out their 401K in their regular job - the NFL is essentially offering them nothing, and, reality taking away the DB plan.
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VGPOP | 33 |
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Quote Originally Posted by COBRA-KAI: This line seems so easy it scares me. Anyone betting the other way on this that can explain to me why? This seems like such a square play but I can't help myself. You don't think the fact the Bill just played out of their minds against the Pats - the first win in something like 15+ games against the Pats might not spell let down? Just about everything went in their favor yesterday with 4 TO's by Brady.
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COBRA-KAI | 28 |
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Quote Originally Posted by VGPOP: That's more likely. Given the odd to win the Super Bowl before the games started today. It was Green Bay +145 Steelers +150
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VGPOP | 23 |
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Enjoy the Jets as dogs now, because they will be favored in the Super Bowl
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They won't be favored over the Packers - probably dawgs by 3 or 4.
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Irish08 | 21 |
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Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ: this mentioned at all its as if no one has even noticed the complete change of defensive scheme designed and played by Rex Ryan and the Jets. i posted this mid last week when analyzing their chances vs New England all season long they blitzed everyone and got burned by WRs on man to man defense. however in Indy, they didnt blitz. they got pressure with their front 3 and an odd linebacker (they play the 3-4) or safety etc. they did the same last week. they made both manning and brady look awful the pats and colts combined allowed 41 sacks all year, pitt has allowed 43. it seems as if this "rush 4, drop 7" scheme will be even more successful against pittsburgh than it was against Indy or NE this was the one weakness in the jets defense and rex ryan has figured out how to make it go away. if you are looking for an angle to take the Jets, thats it. no one runs on either team and Rex made Manning and Brady look like D2 QB's i'm not playing the game...ive been nervous enough all week Certainly a good view. I agree they changed it up. But they also played different type of QB with respect to Manning an Brady. Neither of those guys is going to break out of the pocket or scramble. They both will move around the pocket but are essentially stationary targets. BR isn't that type. He is going to move around and scramble and is better when the play breaks down then either Brady and Manning. The rush three/drop 8 will work unless BR gets out of the pocket and Jets defensive players get out of position or the Steelers receivers do their typical fire drill moves in the secondary as Ben moves around. The Jets offense stunk in that last game. Don't let the 22 points fool anyone. 9 of those points were from safety and kick-off return. If they can get a couple of good returns that should help but counting on it to win will be an issue.
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KOAJ | 30 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Jelax: Surprising how everyone blames VICK but it seems to me that if he made one of those two FG's the game would've been totally different. Overall, I'd give Akers some blame for losing the game but can't look at it in a vacuum. But let's hold things somewhat equal If Akers made his first FG at the half the score is 14-6. Philly scored first in the 3rd quarter. Would they go for two there to tie the game at 14-14. It is Andy Reid so you don't know what he would do. Now, let's say the score is 21-14 or 21-13/14 when Akers misses with about 8 minutes to go. What does Reid do there. I'd guess he tries for the field goal there even down 1 TD because that's what he has done in the past in regular season games and also he did it down 11 (though it was the right call to kick the field goal). If Akers makes it. The score is 21-17. How do the Packers come out. Do they play conservative like they did or still throw the ball in the last series. Who knows so you can't just assume a Akers make means the Packers win. What is totally uncomprehensible was Reid taking a TO when they were on the 4 inch line on the 4th down play. That should be an automatic go for it and no TO is needed. That just demonstrates his complete lack of end of game management.
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Jelax | 43 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Stuckey: classic Why? He said he thought the Ravens were going to win straight up. At the same time he was getting 3.5, he should have put his ML wager down since it would be slightly better payout. So 14daroad is right. Also I think if you bet the Ravens that getting 3.5 down early before the line moved was the correct call though I doubt it will make a difference in the game since the outright winner of playoff games are the ATS winner.
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Stuckey | 183 |
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Quote Originally Posted by misfit_aka: what r u talking about steelers only have a one game lead on the series??? that is also stastically identical..dont matter, no way NFL is goona let a rapist go to superbowl..bet on that... You want to rethink that hoss |
misfit_aka | 20 |
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Quote Originally Posted by SteelHop: What are you talking about. No you wouldn't. The Ravens smacked around NE last year in the playoffs and should have beat them this year. For whatever reason, Brady owns the Steelers. Trust me as Steelers fan, NE wants to play the Ravens. that's if they get past the Jets who are no gimme i mean NE wants to play the Steelers.
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crowndaking | 58 |
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Quote Originally Posted by ratherBgambling: Steelers win, unfortunately...as a NE fan i'd rather play Balty in the championship round What are you talking about. No you wouldn't. The Ravens smacked around NE last year in the playoffs and should have beat them this year. For whatever reason, Brady owns the Steelers. Trust me as Steelers fan, NE wants to play the Ravens. that's if they get past the Jets who are no gimme
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crowndaking | 58 |
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Quote Originally Posted by AC4LIFE: Just as expected... Weak offenses... 44 points?
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AC4LIFE | 34 |
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Quote Originally Posted by AC4LIFE: Just as expected... Weak offenses... 44 points is weak?
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