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Correction: lost 8 units yesterday
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This bet was addressed in post #477.
We could avoid much nonsense if you clearly stated your Risk/Win when you post your pick. But you still refuse, and anybody can wonder, why you only lost 5 units yesterday. For that is what you are going to post, right? |
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Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network: This was posted 3 days ago, to no avail, or response for discussion. which identifies you as a pure hypocrite, with no foundation of discussion, but trolls want attention, and more attention, they thrive, and thirst on controversey, they have imaginations that connect their keyboards to whims, and fairytales, they are screen names, nothing more, they independently represent theirselves, they never mention the Matchup_performance or film, they talk mm and then shy away, when confronted, but continue to discuss a release sheet which they clearly have no understanding, or comprehension as to it's contents...please excuse my reluctance to pacify ignorance, or address questions that do not qualify an answer..... If a wanted to talk about Money Management in general, I would start a separate thread about it. I compared SN's MM in this thread with a very common MM (always bet to win 1 unit on favorites). This comparison showed that SN had won 40.4 units and the 1 unit MM system had lost 5.5 units. It therefore becomes very interesting to have SN explain his MM. I waited patiently on SN to give further insight into his MM. Maybe other readers, who naively has bet his picks using a 1 unit MM and lost, could gain some valueable information. Without further information on his MM, it's not possible to give a fair evaluation of it. At the surface his "success" are due to a few very risky bets (risking 38 units and 20 units) But the fact is, that a normal, very sensible MM system would lose money on his picks. |
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Quote Originally Posted by FreakyFresh: I don't know man, I think you are wrong. You want to make yourself believe that is how it works, but I really don't think it is. How can you justify his play earlier in the season in Week 3 I believe when it was documented Dallas -380 ML / 38 Units. This is another example where it is a whole number and can be the amount he is trying to win, or the amount that is bet and works out to be another whole number (+10 units). He ended up winning this very large play that week, and he did not claim +38 units. He claimed +10 units for that play. This is the exact same example, as tonight's play, but this one was a much larger play. If he documents in the way you guys say, why wouldn't he take the +38 units? I'm not sure how SN will document this play, that's why I asked him. You read his non-answer. We have an opinion from kreatture, saying 8 units risked to win 5. But he just woke up and thought the alternative is risk 5 units to win 3.125 units. At least he showed some compassion with me, that is more than SN did. But it's always funny to read him. Let's hope he will calm down and answer my question in a civilized manner before kick off. |
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Quote Originally Posted by kreatture: SN deals in whole numbers when it comes to payouts.. looking back at all his selections you can easily tell how many Units he is always 'risking', and how many is 'to win'. 8 (units) / 1.6 (odds) = 5 8 Units risked to win 5 --------------------------------------------------------------------- If he had listed Chargers-160 ML / 5units 5 (units) / 1.6 (odds) = 3.125 Well you know he isn't risking 5 Units to win 3.125, cuz it's not a whole number, so you would know he is playing 'to win' 5 Units in that case, which would be a risk of 8 Units. Just remember.. if you calculate both ways and get a decimal number for a payout, then that's not the correct play. Units 'to win' are always whole numbers. Cheers Thank you. So you are saying that SN is risking 8 units to win 5 units. Right? The reason I was in doubt is that it could possibly mean risk 12.8 units to win 8 units. You are telling me that when SN uses whole numbers, it refers to payout amount. Look at post #280 MINN / ML 5units...win Here 5 units (a whole number) apparently was the win amount. |
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Quote Originally Posted by kreatture: That is the key thing.. if anyone has a question or comment about the selections, then ask us here before the games begin. If SN is unable to respond, there are enough of us on here who know how this works to probably be able to explain it. That being the case.. there will always be jealous lurkers around waiting to pounce on the first opportunity they see to "degrade the beautiful people" Best of Luck this week Hi kreatture Thank you for offering your help. I'm in doubt about SN's pick for tonight. Chargers-160 ML / 8units Is 8 units the risk amount or the win amount? |
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Quote Originally Posted by tallguyindc: Thank you.
I want to know specifically for this kind of bet though. It seems like everybody on this site has been betting one kind of teaser.
A 4 team +13 pt -140 odds teaser. What happens with this bet?
If it reduces, how far does it reduce?
From 5Dimes: Teaser - ties reduce - football 13 pts 4 out of 4 pays -130 This is the kind of superteasers used in this thread. It reduces all the way to a straight bet on one leg. In case there are 4 ties the bet is canceled. |
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Quote Originally Posted by tallguyindc: I'm trying to put together an analysis of the teaser strategy. I looked on Pinnacle's site and I couldn't seem to find the rules for this bet. What happens when one of the component bets ends up in a push and the other three win?
Sorry for the obvious question. I've never used teasers before. I googled this and it said that the bet reduded to a three team teaser. Is that true in this case? What are the offered odds on a three team teaser?
Thanks...
tg Try to look at 5Dimes. They have two types of Superteasers, one that reduce on a tie and one that lose on a tie. |
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Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network: MNF matchup_performance RELEASE
Chargers-160 ML / 8units
SN SN please post your units so they are unambiguous. Do you mean A. Risk 12.8 units to win 8 units B. Risk 8 units to win 5 units. Please answer A. or B. |
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Well, I was trying to compare two different MM systems.
All picks by SN so far has been on favorites. (negative lines). A popular way of betting favorites is to win 1unit, f.ex. risk 1.1 to win 1, or risk 2.3 to win 1. Using this MM the actual result is -5.5 units. Using SN's MM the actual result is +40.4 units. |
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<table border="1" bordercolor="#C0C0C0" bordercolordark="#FFFFFF" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2"><tr><th style="white-space: nowrap">Week</th><th style="white-space: nowrap">Pick</th><th style="white-space: nowrap">Line</th><th style="white-space: nowrap">Result</th><th style="white-space: nowrap">SN</th><th style="white-space: nowrap">1 unit</th></tr><tr><td style="white-space: nowrap">1</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">teaser</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-130</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">w</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">3.08</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">1</td></tr><tr><td style="white-space: nowrap">1</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">Vikings -3.5</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-110</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">w</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">10</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">1</td></tr><tr><td style="white-space: nowrap">1</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">Colts -280</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-280</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">w</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">2</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">1</td></tr><tr><td style="white-space: nowrap">2</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">teaser</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-130</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">w</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">3.08</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">1</td></tr><tr><td style="white-space: nowrap">2</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">Pittsburg Steelers -140</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-140</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">l</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-7</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-1.4</td></tr><tr><td style="white-space: nowrap">2</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">Miami Dolphins +3.5</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-110</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">l</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-5.5</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-1.1</td></tr><tr><td style="white-space: nowrap">2</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">Baltimore Ravens +3.5</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-110</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">w</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">10</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">1</td></tr><tr><td style="white-space: nowrap">3</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">teaser</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-130</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">l</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-13</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-1.3</td></tr><tr><td style="white-space: nowrap">3</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">Redskins-250 ML / 2.5units</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-250</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">l</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-2.5</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-2.5</td></tr><tr><td style="white-space: nowrap">3</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">Vikings-280 ML / 2.8units</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-280</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">w</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">1</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">1</td></tr><tr><td style="white-space: nowrap">3</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">Ravens-780 ML / 7.8units</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-780</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">w</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">1</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">1</td></tr><tr><td style="white-space: nowrap">3</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">StLouis Rams+7 -110 / 2.2units</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-110</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">l</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-2.2</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-1.1</td></tr><tr><td style="white-space: nowrap">3</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">DALLAS COWBOYS -380 ML / 38units</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">-380</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">w</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">10</td><td style="white-space: nowrap">1</td></tr></table>
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